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Hacker Collective Anonymous Issues Open Letter To Citizens Of The United States

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Dear US Citizens,

We, Anonymous, would like to offer you, America, the opportunity to join and support our movement. We are a group that formed on the internet - one that knows no constructs or absolutes, and one that has recently grown exponentially. We would like to introduce an Operation.  An Operation that involves Americans getting our National Rights and dreams back....To effectively reform the system that has enslaved us, we must consider the advice and example of those who have preceded us. Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, and JFK are good places to start. All took fierce positions against central banking, government corruption and corporate power... The time has come for us to unite, the time has come for us to stand up and fight.

- Anonymous

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Wed, 03/23/2011 - 23:00 | Link to Comment iwokeup
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Captain Larry T. Bridgewater will save us.

Gold! Jerry! GOLD!

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 23:05 | Link to Comment Harmonious_Diss...
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"other like-minded individuals" is this a psy-op to get us on some list for later disposal as "extreminsts"? The media would portray anon. as a terrorist group, we are in a George Orwell novel?

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 23:17 | Link to Comment john39
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Psyop. All part of the Zionist show. The fed will now get thrown under the bus, it's job complete. Now comes the collapse, the theft complete.

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 23:31 | Link to Comment 4shzl
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Join the 'Merican INTIFADA now!

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:14 | Link to Comment the mad hatter
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END THE FED.

LET THE BIG BANKS FAIL.

the leeches (banks) have taken over the host (society). we must fight this infection.

the banks get the big spenders elected who get the united states more in debt and more at the mercy and control of the bankers who loan and make the money.

i am tired of paying 45% tax (35% Federal + 10% State) just to service old debt.

I AM TIRED OF USING FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES. WHERE ARE THE UNITED STATES NOTES?

END THE FED.

LET THE BIG BANKS FAIL.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 02:00 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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The banks are not the enemy, they are supposed to facilitate the dispersal of spare capital from those who have it to those who have a use for it.

The problem is government in deficit, because it is this that grants the banks special privileges in everything including truth so that government can have someone or something to sell debt to. It is government that has the ability to gift everything you have and everything you will ever have to whoever or whatever it pleases in the cause of the best interests of the country because it is the government you elect that dictates the terms under which you can own stuff.

The alternative is a sovereign default.

When you vote for politicians with a mandate to spend more than you earn you deserve everything you get.

There are two ultimate requirements, one to to remove the ability of the banking system to create money and the most important to stop governments running deficits, which we won't do because that's how every lazy idle shit on the planet get's his free lunch, welfare and because that's how we pay for our aircraft carriers.

We neither need nor want and end to the banks, they simply need to function once more merely as banks. We need political leaders with an idea of how to run a country within a budget. It has been a magical time for politicians who promised everything without any idea how to pay for it.

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 02:01 | Link to Comment redpill
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You make the mistake in thinking the government and the banks are separate.  Today, they are not.  They are one.

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 02:54 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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It's not a mistake, without banks all governments would now fail...

We need them to be separate again...

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 08:01 | Link to Comment TumblingDice
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Without banks certain individuals would lose the legitimacy of their use of violence? I find that hard to believe.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:52 | Link to Comment Agent P
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Sincere apologies for jumping in at the top of the thread, but I just wanted to warn people about the link.  When I clicked on it, it bounced out to Scribed, then to another location, then popped up what appeared to be one of those fake virus warnings and started running a "Windows Security Scan", so it appears someone may have added a little something extra to the page.  I quickly shut it down and am running real virus/malware scans just to be safe.

Read what's posted here on ZH, but DO NOT CLICK ON THE LINK!

Mon, 03/28/2011 - 23:49 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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Not sure how banks legitimise the use of violence, foment it yes, fund it yes, but legitimise?

explain please...

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 06:41 | Link to Comment falak pema
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But it's the banks who lead in MINDSET and POWER. Greed is good...and the politicians follow the gravy train..."We can't lose anyways 'cos we got the nuke, the world Duke and the reserve green back...period. Pass me the pastry please...and f*** those who missed this gravy train".

Mon, 03/28/2011 - 23:55 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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falak:I think it depends on your viewpoint. I believe that politicians are elected by the people ergo those most successful are the one's that promise the most. The banks foment this by buying their debt. Govt has worked with the banks to enable banks access to your money at lower costs for their own ends by taking away all consumer protection in favour of the banks.

If you believe its the other way round and that we are the victims of a banker led conspiracy I cannot argue with that...

But I am keen to hear any new information you might have that might support your view...

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 07:28 | Link to Comment themiestro
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He also makes the mistake of thinking that the leaders we choose don't all have a very similar agenda, so there really is no "choice."  The red and blue teams are actually a purple team, just under the guise of red and blue.

Mon, 03/28/2011 - 23:57 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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Miestro I am not aware that I have made that mistake, since it is contrary to my view.

The mistake is yours old stick...

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:42 | Link to Comment cocoablini
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Money lender class is always an evil necessity- and when economies go bad the politicians ramp up the bad bad blood between the money class nd the borrowing class.the political class is more to blame for this mess, but will throw the money class under the bus.
This happens throughout history. Rome, midages,Germany before WW2.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 00:02 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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Coco I think that when it all goes wrong the money lenders keep quiet and the peasants self destruct...

Perhaps it is because not one in 10,000 peasants actually understands how a global economy works. ergo, they blame everything and anything and they fight...

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 02:56 | Link to Comment CH1
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Yeah, the banks ARE the enemy.

No, not your local baker - he's probably fine. But the central bankers? Yes, they are.

Think about it - they gave these bozos a monopoly on the creation of money... someone thought this was a good idea? Had they utterly forgotten that power corrupts? 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 03:26 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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CH1 it was government that gave the banks the power to create money in the first place as a means to more cheaply fund its own borrowing costs. It is only government that can remove it.

It needs to be removed.

Banks are no more than glorified venture capital/private equity funds, but with higher risk because thise who fund it (savers) can take their money out.

The problem lies not with the banks...

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 04:40 | Link to Comment d_senti
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The problem is that you're conflating banking as a system - which is necessary and even good - with our current banks and bank(st)ers, who are not.

The government gave them that power because they controlled enough of the government to get it from them. Read "The Creature from Jekyll Island" and you'll see how they planned to use their influence on Congress to take a power that rightfully belongs only to the US government.

Your definition of banks is what banks SHOULD be, not what they ARE today. Our banking system is broken, the people running it are largely amoral (that is, evil), and it needs to be dismantled on multiple levels. When people decry the bankers, that is what they are talking about, not the mere concept of banking. Nearly everyone on ZH is, I'm sure, fine with the existence of mere banks, so long as they don't become the monstrosities of today.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 05:10 | Link to Comment the mad hatter
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Right on. The old "United States Notes" were issued debt-free by the treasury.

 

Our new "Federal Reserve Notes" come with interest and are obligations of the U.S. government. Therefore, under the current regime of money creation, without the national debt there would be no money.

 

The Fed buys bonds to fund government spending with money it makes out of thin air. Instantly, the U.S. government's money has interest attached to it- interest that has to be paid by future generations through taxation.

 

The government is a slave to the banksters. We are slaves to the government. Ergo, we are the bankers' slaves.

 

Toil away, minions. Keep on running on the rat wheel without seeing who put you on there.

 

Central Banks and the income tax need to be abolished. The power to issue currency needs to go back to the treasury.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 00:10 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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d_senti we are not going to get past this point. The banks are separate but they now work closely together, that I will agree, and too closely in many instances. The people are amoral, of that I also agree, but a grand conspiracy to coerce government?

I just don't see how having got these new powers the banks forced the US govt to spend all this cash. It's far more believable that politicians will always spend more than they have so they can tell you how good they've been. If that means they build one more carrier to create jobs in an election year, so be it, and the first place they turn is the treasury, but the idea that the government is forced to spend money by the banks doesn't wash...

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 04:41 | Link to Comment Bartanist
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Hmmm ... don't think so.

It was a few bankers who corrupted a few politicians and then rammed through an illegal bill to create the Fed when most of Congress had already gone home for Christmas.

I am not sure how borrowing costs became cheaper with the Fed. Before the Fed (back to Jackson) the government created its own money. Recall the Greenback that Lincoln created. How is paying interest to a privately owned bank (the Fed) on an impossible to repay amount of debt, created out of thin air by the bank, less expensive than a government creating its own currency?

Sure, the privately owned central bank monopoly is the largest curse on this world, all of the governments and all of the people. It needs to be broken up.

Banks are parasitic distributors of debt and money created out of thin air that use their power to create money to bully and buy everything. They only create debt servitude. They are parasites. They may be like venture capital/private equity funds that parasitially use something that is not theirs to control and tax everything in the world. They have zero risk because they can create all of the money they need or want and destroy it without consequence. Today, banks have no need for savers' money. If they did, they would be paying interest for it. Today, the banks are awash in money created out of thin air from the Fed and balance sheet fraud. If savers took every penny out of banks, the banks would not even notice.

Every ill lies with the banks.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 05:49 | Link to Comment Arch Duke Ferdinand
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Congress vs Big Banks....Which is to Blame?....3/Revolution/Starve the Govenrment

http://seenoevilspeaknoevilhearnoevil.blogspot.com/2011/03/congress-vs-big-bankswhich-is-to.html

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 00:14 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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Bartanist, how much would you choose to lend your money out for at present?

and how much are most savers getting on their loans (deposits) to the banks today?

I would argue that the last is considerably lower than the first, ergo the Fed artificially lowers the cost of borrowing for the government....

If gold was in money they would not be able to do that.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 05:40 | Link to Comment i-dog
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You are exactly right, Harlequin001 ... the banks are only able to manipulate the government because the government has the monopoly over violence to enforce whatever it has been bribed/paid to enforce.

Until the power of the central government has been trimmed back to what the founding fathers envisaged (ie. about 0.1% of the financial and legislative power that it now holds!), there can be no solution to the current problems.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 07:04 | Link to Comment Freewheelin Franklin
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The relationship between the banks and the government has been a "love/hate" relationship since, at least, the War of 1812, whose financing led to the Panic of 1819. I've heard it described as a lion and a lion tamer who feeds the lion with one hand, while whipping him with the other.

 

The only real solution, IMHO, is to separate the government and the banks, and treat banks like any other business.

http://www.econlib.org/library/LFBooks/SmithV/smvRCB.html

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 12:35 | Link to Comment benburnyanki
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Holy Flyin Furry Freak Bro,

Where the hell you got ahold of a Freak Bros comix matey?

CIA loves Freewheelin Franklin's favorite saying:

"Dope will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no dope!"

I think I will add a new one aimed squarely at the FAT FREDDY'S CAT FUCKERS AT THE FED:

Gold will git ya through times of no money better than money will git ya through times of no gold.

Then for you bang stick smokers out there:

Lead will get you through times of no money, better than money will get you through times of no lead.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 00:28 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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I couldn't have put it better myself...

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:47 | Link to Comment deeznutz
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"When you vote for politicians with a mandate to spend more than you earn you deserve everything you get."

 

Wow. Kindly tell us the names of all of the politicians who will not spend like drunken sailors... All 3 of them.

Whatever.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:16 | Link to Comment Andy Lewis
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Fuck off and die, Nazi filth.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:05 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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I LOVE how a call to arms.. in the first 10 posts turns into this ugly personal bullshit.. that smells of dis / mis information...

 

anything but lets all get together.. there are always one or two idiots that have to fuck up comments at the top.. be the first to be anti jew or whatever.. and make Fight Club look like shit.. Tyler I would like you to source those fucking idiots IP Addresses.. is it the same guy? is it some idiot republican who got ran then fuck outa here? how about some pissed dumbocrat? who and why does there always need to be a divide driven between people here.. in the first 10 comments? every fucking time.. if it was buy fucking gold.. everyone would be sucking dick.. but lets all get together and fuck up the FED turns into.. I dont like his eye shadow, I dont like his wig.. I dont like his lipstick.. what ever you fucking homos do on your fucking time is your fucking business.. but for those of us that wish to get together with anyone who wants to end the FED and Free our Country I am on board with.. Jew, Spic, WHOP, DIKE.. I dont give a fuck what they do on thier time.. thats there business.. I want people who want to start a war.. information spreading.. picketing... something other than this childish dis / mis information bullshit... EVERY FUCKING TIME!

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:13 | Link to Comment Village Idiot
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JW

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:29 | Link to Comment The Real Fake E...
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JW n FL, I am with you. let me know when and where and I am ready to go.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:55 | Link to Comment hambone
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Spot on JW - divided we play w/ our fucking "physical pm's" while people starve.  Was true then and same is true now...divided we fall, united we stand.  Anybody w/ a brain knows the plan is drive wedges between the "victims" and play the blame game.  The unions did it.  The immigrants did it.  The poor sucked the system dry.  The voters did it by never holding politicians accountable.  All have some truth but all are simply scapegoats for those truly responsible.  Rich fuckers with no souls trying to fill the bottomless black holes within themselves with with stuff and power and there will never be enough.  Some Jewish, yep.  Some Catholic, yep.  Some Muslim, ahuh.  It's a rainbow of greed.  Get over it and get on with the revolution...it's time to revive Obama's line and aim it at the entirety of DC, Wall St., lobbyists, sycophants, sociopaths.  We need real people, real citizens to serve for the betterment.  Time to come together.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 02:07 | Link to Comment Village Idiot
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+100 for a counter punch.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 04:57 | Link to Comment FEDbuster
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Some are calling for those whom are still paying their mortgages to stop paying.  Seems like the quickest and best way to crash the TBTF banksters.  The problem is the government is backstopping the banks now and forever.  You would end up with nationalized banks and a federal landlord housing system (section 8 housing for everyone?).

Best bet is to buy PMs (gold, silver, lead & brass).

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 05:16 | Link to Comment mdwagner
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Nationalizing the banks would have been whatever our national debt is in dollars times better than what we have now after Lehman/AIG failed.  At least they would have been somewhat accountable to the people in theory.  At least AIG can't pay themselves trillions in bonuses while they're nationalized.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 07:15 | Link to Comment New_Meat
Thu, 03/24/2011 - 04:45 | Link to Comment duncecap rack
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You are spot on JW. This was such a beautiful and stirring document. To see it defaced with the infantile rants in the comments section was infuriating. Sort of like grafitti on the Mona Lisa.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 07:18 | Link to Comment Golden monkey
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You told us : "buy fucking gold.."

I'm glad to see that gold is fucking you, you gold short dumbass.

Only gold shorts hypocrits are using multiple avatar on ZH. Tyler Knows. I know it.

You like wars, and killing people? God will fix you up, if not already done with you, SOB.

 

 

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 07:21 | Link to Comment Golden monkey
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Can I get the avatar "I will obey" Tyler?

 

 

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 11:01 | Link to Comment KinorSensase
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Five junks on JW?  BS.  Excellent perspective, JW.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 12:48 | Link to Comment benburnyanki
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JW you da man!!!!

A La Braveheart and in between his French Queen scenes (no pun intended) he beat the fuck outta his own Scottish brothern who would not work together as a team.

There is a fucking good reason a sargent commanding a platoon can whip out his .45 and shoot anyone on his team right in the head for not workin as a team. Divided and arguing teams get cut down quick by the enemy fools.

Fight as One or Do Not Bother Numnuts! And we really pissed off the Israeli trolls since their banking mafia has the most to lose if we kill the Fed. This is why America is underneath a Jewish Nazi Jackboot. The Rothschilds own the Fed Fools. Wake up and Break The Slave Chains nitwits.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:15 | Link to Comment Creed
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Andy was responding to J39's zionist psyop comment & was completely warranted in telling the nazi to fuck off & die , keep up here

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:59 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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Can't you people string two fucking words together without blaming everything on Zionists.

No wonder nobody takes you seriously...

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:04 | Link to Comment FeralSerf
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ADL "volunteer"?  No job?  Immigrant?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:05 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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and this means what?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 04:45 | Link to Comment d_senti
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Yeah, the random jew-bashers that pop out here and there definitely taint the commentary. Wish we could be rid of them, but TD doesn't ban people for being idiots. Which is good, really, as censorship dominates everywhere else.

Such is the danger of living on the fringe. You see truths no one else grasps, but you're out there with the other social rejects. :)

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 06:49 | Link to Comment Tenma13
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If they were just ignored they'd find there natural place in irrelevance.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 06:56 | Link to Comment Azannoth
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I am all for an 'Ignore' button no1 should be forced to hear the Truth

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 08:33 | Link to Comment Max Hunter
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Many feel that the Zionists have played an important (leading) role in the system that has its boot on our throat.  I happen to think they are correct. I also think Zionism is not the only group responsible and simply concentrating on them is a foolish thing and even counter productive. But to ignore it, would be disingenuous coming from those really looking to make changes by identifying problems and solutions..

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 14:06 | Link to Comment benburnyanki
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Lemme see, the second highest number of hackers in world are from Israel, the second smallest country in the world. The most foreigners killed by sabatage teams outside of country: Israeli Mossad. The most mafia banking bosses in the world: Zionist Rothschilds. The most hitmen killing nonOil and nonNuke energy inventors: Zionist Rothshild owned Shell/Exxon. The most middle east bullshit: Zionist fuks. The most financial scams in banking: Rothschild Zionist fuks.

Why is Rothschild on the cover of a Israeli 500 Shekel bill? Cause the Rothschilds gave millions to fund starting Israel in 1930.

I hope the cloud from Fuksushimi blows over Israel and only kills Jews, not Palistinians.

I got nothing against Jews. I just hate assholes and especially assholes with tudes. I never met such a high percentage of assholes with tudes as with Jews. Why they all assholes. They make Arabs look good. I would date an Arab woman before a Jew Am Prin.

But the real issue here folks just hit me!!! Godamn Jews own the Internet and hack this site from Israel daily and just keep the TV and Net fuckin with our poor asses to keep them hiding and BSin us to steal all the money off the table in 3 card monty.

The world is a big bloody smoke screen with Wizard of Oz behind curtain who IS Rothschild Buggy Man. I don't care if the Big R is freakin a Martin. He fukin wit our heads and BSin us for money by owning the FED. Fuk the dude and the horse he rode in on.

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 23:22 | Link to Comment Larry Darrell
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I'll say this:  if we could get Anonymous some partnership/backing from Oath Keepers who understand that 99% of our nation's threats are DOMESTIC, I think it would go a long way towards combatting the picture which will be painted by the state controlled media (read: gov't propoganda arm)

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:30 | Link to Comment Michael
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You mean the Jewtube propaganda networks. Oh yeah, they own the ZOG and the international banking cartel as well. I just thank God as their monetary system collapses it will take many of the zionists down also. No money for anybody, BooHoo.

http://www.sacbee.com/2011/03/17/3483272/helen-thomas-is-playboys-april.html

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:43 | Link to Comment Hdawg
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Amen.

They always choke in the end; genetically flawed.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:15 | Link to Comment Mark McGoldrick
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Are most libertarians this bigoted and racist, or is it just an overwhelming number of ZH libertarians?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 02:02 | Link to Comment Broker NotBroke
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Racisism is inefficient. A real pragmatist abhors a deadweight loss.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 06:59 | Link to Comment Azannoth
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Racism is unnecessary just abolish all the anit-white pro-negro laws and the nature will find it's balance

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 02:25 | Link to Comment Bay of Pigs
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Well Mark,

You being one of the biggest douchebags around here, I'd look in the mirror before blasting your version of "libertarians".

Fuck you're dumb.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 04:48 | Link to Comment d_senti
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+10 liberty bells

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 06:46 | Link to Comment snowball777
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Not all...I know many who are tolerant and merely looking for limited government in defense of personal liberty.

That being said, there are certainly many here who want to find a bogeyman and "international jewry" is as good a cabal as any.

That being said, there is a vastly disproportionate number of people of that particular background in government and banking.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 08:57 | Link to Comment Max Hunter
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disproportionate number of people of that particular background in government and banking.

Don't forget News Media, Hollywood (Movies, Entertainment) and Publishing.. And yes, it matters.. A lot.. It contributes to our conditioning.. Far more than it should, but, nonetheless the contribution is significant. 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 07:12 | Link to Comment Freewheelin Franklin
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Are most libertarians this bigoted and racist, or is it just an overwhelming number of ZH libertarians?

 

Most people are bigoted and racist to a degree, and everybody has their prejudices. Even you, douchebag.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 07:25 | Link to Comment Freewheelin Franklin
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Actually, I wouldn't be a damned bit surprised if most of these racist and anti-Semetic comments were from Collectivist/Liberal/Progressive/Socialist plants trying to discredit libertarians.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 08:41 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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And what are you?  A commie fag?  Hey, I have a question: are most commie fags as ignorant as you are?  Do you make it a point to be as dumb as a box of anal fungus?  Is ZH merely a honey pot for Cass Sunstein trolls?

So many questions, so many douchebags.

I am Chumbawamba.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 11:20 | Link to Comment pan-the-ist
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Look faker- It is bad enough that you shit on the real chumbawumba with your inane comments, but when you respond to a Zionist thread with this voice you've gone too far.

We're kind of sick of you already.  I know that times are tough for teenagers, but even Peter-Pan had to grow up.  It is time to establish your own identity.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:49 | Link to Comment vast-dom
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another inane comment from the racist moron. please Tyler ban him not for being a racist turn but for dumbing down ZH -- that's a form of discrimination against low IQ; oh well....

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:03 | Link to Comment FeralSerf
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ADL volunteer?  No job?  Immigrant?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:07 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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I LOVE how a call to arms.. in the first 10 posts turns into this ugly personal bullshit.. that smells of dis / mis information...

 

anything but lets all get together.. there are always one or two idiots that have to fuck up comments at the top.. be the first to be anti jew or whatever.. and make Fight Club look like shit.. Tyler I would like you to source those fucking idiots IP Addresses.. is it the same guy? is it some idiot republican who got ran then fuck outa here? how about some pissed dumbocrat? who and why does there always need to be a divide driven between people here.. in the first 10 comments? every fucking time.. if it was buy fucking gold.. everyone would be sucking dick.. but lets all get together and fuck up the FED turns into.. I dont like his eye shadow, I dont like his wig.. I dont like his lipstick.. what ever you fucking homos do on your fucking time is your fucking business.. but for those of us that wish to get together with anyone who wants to end the FED and Free our Country I am on board with.. Jew, Spic, WHOP, DIKE.. I dont give a fuck what they do on thier time.. thats there business.. I want people who want to start a war.. information spreading.. picketing... something other than this childish dis / mis information bullshit... EVERY FUCKING TIME!

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 06:46 | Link to Comment snowball777
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+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 07:36 | Link to Comment Golden monkey
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Again, you tell me "buy fucking gold"?

Don't buy gold, stupid ass; buy junk bonds instead.

My IP adress is deep in your ass, sucker.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 08:11 | Link to Comment edotabin
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Look man! This is called "winning" ok? It is a combination of a superior intellect and tiger blood.  Sheesh... some people can't understand the simplest things.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 20:25 | Link to Comment edotabin
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Would be fun to know who took above comment seriously enough to junk... :-)

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 14:07 | Link to Comment benburnyanki
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Oh shit my helm radar showing this fucker is a Israeli hacker posin' as a Nazi to stur up shit maybe?

I aint sayin nuttin', just that its on radar ok? Don't shoot messenger. Plus I got a six sent sniffin machine in me pocket. 6 cent dat is.

:)

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 11:42 | Link to Comment msamour
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I thought that too at first, but then I realized that it wouldn't work. Hackers are generally anarchist, and only follow a code that is found outside of any other established code. The code of honour they follow is to not defile the work of other hackers, and to prevail as the hacker with the best score. Scores are counted in the quantity, and quality of hacks, and are rated by other hackers.

Oathkeepers on the other hand, follow the rules set in the Constitution of The Unites States of America (notice I am speaking of the Republic here). Oatkeepers follow the document almost to the letter, which is understandable as the document was written by an assembly of Men intent on protecting natural rights of the citizens (not all of them at the time, but that was to come later). Original writers of the Constitution, are also oathkeepers, but the keep the oath as they understand the world in their era. Today's oathkeepers are keeping the oath in relations to events that are contemporary' meaning they have to contend with people that are defiling the constitution in echelons of government, and are a real threat to the Republic. They are trying to use legal avenues to solve the crisis, whereas, Hackers do not.

In conclusion, there could not be a bridging of the two groups based on these philosophical differences. That is not to say, However that the two cannot work in Tandem. Hackers could work to destroy the current echelon of powers that are usurping the Constitution, and then Oathkeepers can come afterwards and re-establish the written Constitution, and jail/hang ex-politician, and detractors to the original text. A short term immunity should be granted to hackers that helped re-establish the constitution. This could be an acceptable symbiotic relationship.

(Opinion from a Canadian)

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 23:26 | Link to Comment SilverBaron
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You have been on lists since you started being tested in school.  What do you think the state tests were all about?  Thay gave you IQ tests, and every other kind of test.  Just hope you are on the only list that really matters.  The one that God keeps.  Knowlege and information are power. 

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 23:39 | Link to Comment SilverBaron
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P.S.

Why do you think they hate home schooling so much?  Because a super IQ might slip under the radar.  Remember: People who lived over 100 years ago were smarter and better schooled than you are.  Do you actually think they didn't know the things that you are just figuring out?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:54 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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smarter?

How do you know that?

Intelligence is not education....

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:07 | Link to Comment SilverBaron
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Let's see, Einstein, Tesla, ...

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:40 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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SilverBaron, I get your point but the reality is that with all the advances in science, astrology and medicine today it's fair to say that I had a better education than Einstein, Tesla and every other classical scholar throughout history. So did many other modern school children with or without a university education, but that doesn't make me more intelligent.

Intelligence is the ability to learn and solve problems, which these guys did in spades. That's not something you can easily teach.

Me, I just learned about their results...

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 02:36 | Link to Comment jeff montanye
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astrology?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 02:37 | Link to Comment Arkadaba
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Actually teaching problem solving skills is what teachers did for years. Rote memorization is stupid but teach a kid to sound out a word, apply math skills to a novel problem or use geometry for building something - not that hard.

Edit: And thanks to the teachers that did that for me.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 06:49 | Link to Comment snowball777
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Einstein and Tesla both went to schools during their youth.

There's nothing wrong with home schooling, as long as that isn't an excuse to perpetuate a state of complete ignorance.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 13:23 | Link to Comment benburnyanki
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Einstein Gave Us Fuksushimi Disaster Nuking the entire world.

Now that was a smart Jew, working for the Big Oil and Big Nukes instead of like Tesla who gove us free electricity transmitted over the air without expensive copper wires that makes slaves out of South American copper miners (Injuns as usual).

Trotsky was Jewish and was funded by Jews in NYC in 1904 and given a boat to go to Russia to overthrow the Tzar since the Tzar told the Rothschilds who owned Shell since 1850 to fuk off.

There we go, another Jew with a tude fukin up another foreign country as usual.

Jews were kicked out of 100  countries over the last 500 years for loan sharking and repo'in po fokes homes.

Fuk Jew Bankers.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:14 | Link to Comment crass happens
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Just hope you are on the only list that really matters.  The one that God keeps.  Knowlege and information are power.

 

sorry silver, but you've just attempted to link two mutually exclusive notions

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 07:11 | Link to Comment LMAO
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Oh no, don't do that to me crass!

Could I tempt you in changing your avatar?

LMAO

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:17 | Link to Comment Creed
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 cool silverbaron

 

cool post

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 07:29 | Link to Comment Freewheelin Franklin
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AKA "Labeling Theory".

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 13:58 | Link to Comment Wascally Wabbit
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Total psy-ops.  Whenever Andrew Jackson and Abraham Lincoln are mentioned in the same sentence, watch out.  (Lincoln centralized federal power, Jackson did the opposite and remains the only president to payoff the entire debt.) 

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 23:36 | Link to Comment reader2010
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What America needs now is Adolf Hilter and his National Socialist Workers' Party. 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:14 | Link to Comment mdwagner
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Not sure why this is being junked because this is exactly the way the worst rulers in history come to power.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:46 | Link to Comment Dr. Porkchop
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I've listened to so many people interviewed on hyperinflation that I can't remember who said it, but something I listened to recently said that a hyperinflationary event usually leads to dictatorship. I believe that average people would accept dictatorship if they are given a choice between the status quo, or collapse. Look at what people have accepted in the last ten years. For example, The USA Patriot act. That thing is a disgrace to the American notion of freedom, yet it was cheered in and pushed on people under duress.

Jefferson would perhaps be appalled but not shocked by the politics of today, because I think he knew them in his day. He would recognize all to well the people that seek to create an aristocratic elite.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:56 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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Average people will accept dictatorship when they are sick and fed up with democracy producing nothing, which is precisely the course now laid before us by our political leaders thanks to all this money printing.

We are too far down this road now to turn back, any of us...

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:24 | Link to Comment reader2010
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We live in a democracy? You fucking kidding me? We have been in an Inverted totalitarianism, aka Facism, since FDR. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_totalitarianism

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:57 | Link to Comment zhandax
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That link is the biggest pile of sociobabble I think I have ever read.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 02:51 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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You vote, don't you?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 10:06 | Link to Comment deeznutz
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Now you are starting to crack me up. Vote? Lolz!

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:17 | Link to Comment Andy Lewis
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Fuck off and die, Nazi filth.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:26 | Link to Comment mdwagner
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I think the sarcasm was pretty loud and clear.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:39 | Link to Comment reader2010
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Are you afraid someone like Hilter will have to solve the Jewish Issue?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:03 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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What Jewish issue?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 02:08 | Link to Comment Broker NotBroke
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Best scapegoats around those Joos. I hear they poison wells and grind christian children up to make their passover meal.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 06:53 | Link to Comment snowball777
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Can't speak for all Jews, but Lieberman definitely does.

/sarc

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 02:16 | Link to Comment Broker NotBroke
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aaaaaaaaaand ladies and gentlemen I present to you Godwin's law.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:42 | Link to Comment reader2010
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I forgot a Weimar hyperinflatioin is required before that could happen. Isn't Bernanke working on that right now?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:43 | Link to Comment dbbeebs
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Trolls should spell "Hitler" correctly.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:08 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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with this level of intelligence he just might be referring to a porno...

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:36 | Link to Comment Village Idiot
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"Trolls should spell "Hitler" correctly."

 

Maybe he was referring to someone named "Hilter"?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 02:45 | Link to Comment jeff montanye
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not to mention the "facists".  

the zionists, especially likud, have a lot to answer for but to confuse them with "jews" is to ignore many of the most credible and determined antizionists who themselves are jews.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:09 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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Sounds bullish...

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 07:49 | Link to Comment Golden monkey
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Hmm, interesting, but how come the user " I will not obey" is not here to reply?

I guess conformity is a full time job reserved for the half blinded...

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 07:57 | Link to Comment max2205
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FYI. Join and NSA TSA has your name

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 08:00 | Link to Comment Watauga
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"An Operation that involves Americans getting our National Rights and dreams back....To effectively reform the system that has enslaved us, we must consider the advice and example of those who have preceded us. Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, and JFK are good places to start. All took fierce positions against central banking, government corruption and corporate power."

Andrew Jackson slaughtered more Americans, both personally and through the Office of the Presidency, than any American other than Lincoln.  Lincoln is the VERY REASON the national government expanded over the last 150 years, destroying both the States and individual liberty.  TR was the embodiment of LEVIATHAN, and, along with Wilson, did more to create the American Empire than anyone but FDR.  JFK and his V-P-turned-President established the national government's definitive authority to do anything it pleased to promote itself at the expense of what should be the checks and balances that would keep Leviathan at bay.  If you wish to find examples to emulate, I urge you to look not to the worst American power-mongers, but to the small businessmen, the free-enterprisers, the average soldiers, the line assembly workers, the construction workers, and others who, through their very lives, set the example against national government/Wall Street overreach.  I applaud your intention to RESTORE liberty, private property, and free enterprise, but I take issue with those you would hold out as examples of those values.

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 23:03 | Link to Comment Conrad Murray
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1. Forward this to all Congress bitches and see if any support it

2. Sharpen pitchfork

3. ????

4. Profit

 

Also, I'll just leave this here: http://bit.ly/hTVXn8 ...Can anons make over 9000 reviews?

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 23:06 | Link to Comment Cleanclog
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Why would any current person in Congress support this?  It diminishes their power.  Not until we have a Congress that serves the people that elect them - taking little compensation and publicly funded with not special interest money will anyone in Congress support something of this kind.  We should rename Congress so we are able to delineate between the two.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 03:17 | Link to Comment Heavy
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Hey!  Pitchfork sales is my racket!  I don't need the competition, convincing people to trade their PM's for pitchforks is a tough enough life already.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 06:55 | Link to Comment snowball777
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Hey yourself. He implied that they already have their own pitchforks. Now do you want to be the official pitchfork-sharpener of the revolution or not? We can find another vendor, if you're too busy. ;)

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 11:56 | Link to Comment msamour
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I guess you won't mind if I setup my boiled rope and guillotine stand next to yours then? My partner is a Jewish Rabbi, but he's a Constitutionalist Libertarian, so it should balance out.

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 23:08 | Link to Comment Cursive
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Woohoo!  My avatar and I are in.  I'll even overlook the Guantanamo and gender equality and health care as a human right crap.  If we throw off our rent seeking overlords, a thousand flowers will bloom, don't worry about the little stuff.

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 23:18 | Link to Comment rookie
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C'mon Cursive, we need gender equality . . .

http://www.voxeu.org/index.php?q=node/3572

 

P.S. I can't join any group that can't spell "spoke".

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 23:26 | Link to Comment Larry Darrell
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Yea, they really hurt themselves with that typo.  I can hear the Reverend Jackson already:

"Those hackers are part of the racist Tea Party/KKK.  Notice they used the word spook in their letter."

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 23:34 | Link to Comment 4shzl
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A niggardly reply.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:55 | Link to Comment SymforniX
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Define "niggardly".  In this context, you don't seem to imply "grudgingly" or "stingy", so I must assume the junks are justified.

I get it - don't get me wrong.  +1 on the attempt at humor. But no need for the artificial division - JJ must have enough self-hatred to last a lifetime.  I met the guy in an elevator at the Tribune Tower about 11 years ago; he wouldn't make eye contact when speaking to me (AWG), so I wrote him off. I was genuinely disappointed that we were unable to have an intelligent conversation - but I digress.  No hard feelings (and no respect - confirmation).

Anyway - you got 2.5 minutes of my time.  So whether you're a racist/troll or not, I learned the definition of "niggardly".  It's really not a bad word - and if any uh yoos interpereted it as such... well.. shame on you.  Learn your English.

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 23:32 | Link to Comment Oligarchs Gone Wild
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His hope was to remind the world that fairness, justice, and freedom are more than typos, they are perspectives.

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 23:54 | Link to Comment kairological
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possibly related to some sort of code?  ...noticed some other anomallies in the text, but I am paranoid, so... yeah

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 06:57 | Link to Comment snowball777
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Most likely written by ESL hackers (with C or assembly being their native tongues followed closely by Finnish).

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 23:38 | Link to Comment freedmon
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I agree about the spelling. It was painful to read.

 

I think that article you linked to, though, misses the point. The crash didn't come about because of cognitive bias and excessive risk-taking. That's the "incompetence" argument, and if it were true, then the law of averages would dictate that the idiots would fail in our favour a bunch of times, which didn't happen. The whole thing was/is rigged, and the guys with "excessive testosterone" were chasing the ball, not running the game.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:28 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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freedmon, the system failed because it is inherently insolvent. Mathematics dictates this.

Personally I don't believe in conspiracy theories or grand plans, I believe our political leaders chose this financial course because it was the path of least pain at that time, and that of the ultimate consequences which we now have to deal with mattered not one jot. Someone else's problem.

Problem is that now that we have arrived at this juncture, I don't believe anyone has a workable plan B, which us why they have cosen the path of printing because it staves off a collapse for a few more months or years, and it doesn't matter that that collapse will be so much worse when it comes...

As any failing business man will tell you, it doesn't matter if you owe one dollar, a mil or a hundred mil, you're still just as bust when the accounting is done.

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 23:40 | Link to Comment Cursive
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@rookie

Two legs good, four legs bad.  Equality is the wedge that utopians use to come to power, then it is quickly lost as the new power elite re-write the rules.  We cannot guarantee equality and the quest to guarantee equility robs us all of our liberties.  The only ideal that a governmental system should hold sacrosanct is individual liberty.  Note that I didn't say corpoerate liberties or group rights, I said individual liberties.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:08 | Link to Comment bmwm395
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well said. +1

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:10 | Link to Comment bmwm395
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well said. +1

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 23:47 | Link to Comment Misstrial
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I was bothered by that too. "Exports" was pluralized when it should not have been.

Third sentence up from the bottom of the 2nd paragraph.

Led me to think that this Anon group is offshore somewhere.

Not in the USA.

~Misstrial

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:37 | Link to Comment MayIMommaDogFac...
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They were thoughtful enough not to ask for a pony.  But that's about the only thing they didn't demand.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:55 | Link to Comment Pool Shark
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Lol!

 

I'm surprised they didn't request an apology and a fruit basket...

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 03:21 | Link to Comment Heavy
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After being forced to sharpen pitchforks, I'll be wanting those too...

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:57 | Link to Comment Filthy Rotter
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You were bothered that "Exports" was pluralized when it shouldn't have been?

If that's what bothers you about all of this, your country is doomed!

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 02:17 | Link to Comment Hicham
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Nah it just reads like the work of interested, intelligent but careless younger people, which is mostly where Anonymous comes from...

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 02:31 | Link to Comment Confused
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Yes, and also people who don't speak english as a first language. 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 02:54 | Link to Comment Hicham
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Nah they are just of an age that does not care

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 08:04 | Link to Comment Watauga
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What was Jackson's body count of Americans after he was finished?  10,000?  50,000?  100,000?  Jackson slaughtered Americans, wholesale, as did Lincoln some 30 years later.  Neither is an American hero--rather, each is an American villain.

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 23:01 | Link to Comment Seasmoke
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boy BOA fraud sure did get lost in the shuffle of the past 2 weeks ............but count me in as i hate the banksters more than any of the other corruption in the world

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 23:37 | Link to Comment freedmon
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Lost in the shuffle? It wasn't even covered.

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 23:04 | Link to Comment Freddie
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Lincoln was the start of centralized big govt.

 

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 23:08 | Link to Comment Filthy Rotter
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Cut them some slack...a lot of them are from overseas!  :-)

At least this will get some press.  Could be a spark that catches fire.

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 23:34 | Link to Comment Buckaroo Banzai
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Meh. I lost them at "Make healthcare a human right".

Sorry guys, healthcare is a service, not a right. Life, liberty, property-- those are rights.

Services are provided by other humans. Saying you have a "right" to healthcare means you are infringing on the liberty and property of others.

If they can't figure this out, then what else are they getting wrong?

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 23:41 | Link to Comment Oligarchs Gone Wild
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Meh, the Libyan coalition held together longer than this trial balloon.

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 23:46 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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Their approach.

This is not the fucking movies.  Most Americans are maybe going to see this, and when they do their reaction will be, "Huh?" (in a Scooby Doo sort of voice).  Then they'll be distracted by some YouTube video of a guy resuscitating a dog with CPR.

These guys just need to hack the shit out of the banking networks and FUBAR the whole thing until transactions can no longer go through and the system collapses.  That will actually accomplish something tangible.  And they should save their flowery V for Vendetta language for obscure internet forums.

I am Chumbawamba.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:03 | Link to Comment Village Idiot
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"This is not the fucking movies..."

 

Not like you are looking for it, but I agree.

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!