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Hacker Collective Anonymous Issues Open Letter To Citizens Of The United States

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Dear US Citizens,

We, Anonymous, would like to offer you, America, the opportunity to join and support our movement. We are a group that formed on the internet - one that knows no constructs or absolutes, and one that has recently grown exponentially. We would like to introduce an Operation.  An Operation that involves Americans getting our National Rights and dreams back....To effectively reform the system that has enslaved us, we must consider the advice and example of those who have preceded us. Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, and JFK are good places to start. All took fierce positions against central banking, government corruption and corporate power... The time has come for us to unite, the time has come for us to stand up and fight.

- Anonymous

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Thu, 03/24/2011 - 02:48 | 1094102 Hicham
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Please tell me you are just trolling "mohameddan terrorist pussies". HA

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:17 | 1093725 Misean
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Man, that mySQL server keeps barfing up at the same time every night. I think a right to more powerful mySQL servers is needed in that manifesto.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:20 | 1093737 Broker NotBroke
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if you get a new server, then everyone gets one. We have to start a new agency. Maybe bennie can print us some seed capital, we'll issue a few bonds. BAM Democracy amIDoinitrite?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:40 | 1093982 Rusty Shorts
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The Department of Corned Beef  has been there   done that.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:20 | 1093734 bothsidesnow
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And we still take it in the ass almost 50 years later. The assassination of JFK was the start of sheeple if you could pull that one off and have people believe it you can sell them anyhting and then the morons kill his brother on live television with a guy named Sirhan Sirhan give me a break I was 11 years old and saw it in real time and I knew that was bullshit.

Bullshit I called bullshit and the crap pile just keeps on getting deeper by the day.

 

 

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:33 | 1093781 Village Idiot
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Nice ass.  good story, btw.  Kids are an intuitive bunch.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:21 | 1093736 Antarctico
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All very laudable I suppose, assuming this isn't noob-bait sent out by Homeland Security, but JFC these guys could use an editor.  As poorly written, capitalized, and punctuated as this is, if this hit my inbox with a link to "click here" off to the trash it would go.  I mean, I've gotten e-mails for Nigerian check scams that were more professionally put together.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:16 | 1093920 Filthy Rotter
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"I mean, I've gotten e-mails for Nigerian check scams that were more professionally put together."

Right...so a proofreader would somehow legitimize this a little more for you?  As you were, then. BTFD...more POMO to come.  Bernank says, "Hello. I'm always here for you, Antarctico!"

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:45 | 1093983 Antarctico
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...so a proofreader would somehow legitimize this a little more for you?

Well, actually yes it would.

Bernank says, "Hello. I'm always here for you, Antarctico!"

I am heartened to hear Mr. Bernake's personal well wishes.  Thank you for relaying them.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:51 | 1094001 Filthy Rotter
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"Well, actually yes it would."

Maybe up to the status of Nigerian check scam, then?  I fear for what will become of your once great nation, because it appears nobody seems to know where their line in the sand is.

God bless you, America!

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:24 | 1093741 calgal
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I agree...blatant and obvious psyop....

Dear NWO...you need a new shtick!!!!

Cmon! Get creative...don't be lazy...come up with something fresh and exciting..

false flag...boring

phony hacker collectives...zzzzzzzzz

creating a Depression...that's so 1920's!!!!

I'm sorry but at this point this drama is so laughable...straight out of central casting...

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:23 | 1093747 rlouis
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The first 12 ideas would have little opposition from people who think and care, but the pin heads  in power, motivated by a lust for power, greed and illusionary profit, would fight it tooth and claw. Sad that our culture needs an 'Anonymous' to try and rally political action. 

The Amerikan revolution needs a name - something better than gw's nick name for Karl 'Turd Blossom' Rove - so someone better come up with a good one quick.

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:25 | 1093751 Broker NotBroke
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armchair mercenaries?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:29 | 1093766 Misean
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Keyboard Krusaders?

Knights webTemplate?

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:32 | 1093776 Broker NotBroke
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ooh ooh 

Black Bongwater

Commodore 64 commando's

The Reddit Rebellion 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:36 | 1093786 Misean
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The BlueSOD Berets

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:37 | 1093793 Misean
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Hole in the Firewall Gang

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:56 | 1093858 Village Idiot
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"Hole in the Firewall Gang"

Currently in first place.  Call in those votes, kids!

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 07:53 | 1094412 snowball777
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Green Router Boys.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:41 | 1093807 Broker NotBroke
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The perl patrol

The Java Jihad 

Operation DDOS (Doesn't DO S***)

The torrenting terrorists

the pirate bay-of-pigs

 

I could do this all day

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:11 | 1093909 Yen Cross
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Any better Ideas?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:31 | 1093773 AldoHux_IV
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So how do we know if this is for real?  If it is for real, where does one sign up?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:17 | 1093931 Filthy Rotter
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Seek it out.  It might take you a little while, but you'll find it all.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 07:53 | 1094415 snowball777
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The A99 group on ampedstatus.org

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:37 | 1093788 AR15AU
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Healthcare is not a human right...

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 07:53 | 1094419 snowball777
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Then neither is liberty.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 10:06 | 1094909 packman
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B.S.

Healthcare requires work of others.  If it is a "basic human right", then the implication is that such work must be compelled (forced) by some entity - i.e. government.

Liberty has no such implication of force or the requirement of the work of others.  It is the absence of force.

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:37 | 1093791 Milton Waddams
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As with DARPA and ZH (thirty-third-and-a-third rule: the truth is always kept in plain site), Anonymous has likely been infiltrated by government agencies hellbent on building databases on potential political and corporate adversaries. Manufacturing campaigns in the name of anonymous -- that was always about the LULZ -- to achieve objectives seems like a fine honey trap, or par for the course.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:40 | 1093798 Misean
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Oh yeah, I didn't even hover my mouse over the link.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:43 | 1093811 Broker NotBroke
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being on zh is a pretty good honeypot in and of itself no?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 07:54 | 1094422 snowball777
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More like a bugzapper (don't go into the light!), but yeah.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:45 | 1093818 mr. mirbach
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Alright ZH peeps - Let's see if we can get a quorem on the points that we can all agree upon from this "Open Letter."  

It may be easier to list the items you disagree with. Here is my list of disagrees:

1. Make Healthcare a Human Right - making it affordable would be better

2. Immigration Reform - why not try enforcing the laws on the books

3. Strengthen environmental laws and force corporations to clean up their act - this has already lead to the flight of industry to places that don't enforce pollution control

4. Work for a real separation of church and state - our system of laws were built atop laws, precepts, tenets, etc. that have been accumulated over millenia from the civilizations in the MENA, more 'eye for eye' would be a good thing as would a return to the morals and ethics that religious traditions are purported to teach

5. Allow felons who have paid their debt to restore voting rights - that prohibition is meant as a deterent to the offense, the felon should have thought about losing the franchise before doing the crime

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:53 | 1093840 Misean
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Agree on 1.

2 & 3 are just property rights issues. I have no need for someone to tell me who my neighbors are or how much they can smoke.

4 & 5 are non sequitors.

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 02:05 | 1093856 SilverBaron
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You forgot

6. Audit the Fed.

7. Audit all the foundations of anyone involved with the Fed and the corporations/shareholders that own the Fed.

8. Bring about real freedom of the press by taking away ownership by corporations and stop any censorship.

and I'm sure much much more. 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:58 | 1093860 Broker NotBroke
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could we change "make healthcare affordable" to "stop inflating the price of healthcare"

 

Immigration laws keep immigrants in crappy employment situations because anyone who speaks up gets deported. Therefore, only the biggest firms can afford to pay off feds/ hide the illegals, thus quashing competition. I may get junked for this but the whole "they took yer jerb!" mentality is ignorant and frustrating. Immigrants want what's best for themselves and their families. All it takes is a restoration of proper incentives

a) phase out state sponsored welfare. Let people donate with their own money, after all; charity at gunpoint isn't really charity.

b) eliminate minimum wage laws which have been shown to hurt unskilled labor more than keep kids out of coal mines.

b) Tax the gains of the new productive workers and the industries for which they work.

c) since we're no longer deporting productive workers, we can save a lot of money/time of our police and military

d) more than just the separation, a definition of the role of government and it's limitations must be enforced, if government is to exist at all.

e) The felon thing was clearly a rallying call to stoners who still want to vote.

 

 

good start!

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 03:11 | 1094115 EvlTheCat
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What I find funny about your comment is you only referred to immigrants, as illegal, when you railed against "the biggest firms".  As far as I can tell, since my wife is a legal immigrant, there has been no issues with crappy employment situations.  Illegal immigrants, while they may be upstanding people, are not citizens or residents of the United States.  "Immigrants want what's best for themselves and their families.",  then my suggestion is you fix your country of origin.  If you do not want to accomplish this, and you choose to to come here legally, then we welcome you with open arms.  If you come here illegally, break the laws, and you are caught, we simply ask that you leave, and don't come back till you can get here legally.  While I know immigration laws are a fucking mess and in most cases not fair and/or outdated, that still does not mean your are entitled to break them.  You are not entitled to live in the United States just because we are your next door neighbors.  You are not entitled to anything we offer our citizens and residents just because your are jealous that the grass is greener on the other side of the fence.  Don't worry, if it is any consultation, it will not be that way very much longer.

Oh yes, temporary workers are not immigrants.  They are allowed to work in this country for a period of time then are expected to return to their country of origin.  They may feel they have to right to immigrate to this country, but no such entitlement is promised to them when they apply.  They also have nonimmigrant rights which do protect them.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 03:10 | 1094132 AnAnonymous
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The concept of illegal immigration in the US is fabricated.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 03:21 | 1094137 EvlTheCat
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Profound.......

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 04:31 | 1094169 Broker NotBroke
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I understand your response. Legal immigrants go through a lot to gain citizenship. Might I counter with an appeal to your self interest. The more labor available in the US, the lower the competitive price for labor becomes by the laws of supply and demand. This excess supply of labor will, given a competitive market environment, lower the cost of goods, and thereby enriching the inhabitants of the nation. 

 

Illegal immigrants are illegal because we make them so. Whether or not they deserve to be in this country is a value judgement. You make it sound as though improving the situation in their home-country is something they can decide to achieve, in a thread about a group of anonymous hackers taking matters into their own hands because the people of this nation CAN'T change it for the better. I see them as rational people who see opportunity here. Instead of trying to put a bandaid on the issue by throwing money at it (border patrol, la migra, etc) I suggest we attack the heart of the issue. People seem most upset about:

a) The freerider problem of tax supported welfare

b) The potential loss of jobs/culture for Americans

c) The unfairness to the immigrants who came here legally.

 

I suggest 

a) Tax supported welfare has in many cases done more harm than good, by creating state dependent inertia, the longer one receives welfare, the less likely one is to escape. Additionally, as I said before, charity at gunpoint is hardly charity. I say we eliminate the option, on pragmatic and ethical principals, then if "illegals" wish to come to America, they're producing value or unemployed and looking at other options.

b) If Americans can't compete for unskilled labor with a population of non-native english speaking, culturally different individuals, then we're in a lot more trouble than any immigration reform can handle The only reason these illegals can compete is on the basis of wage because they are under the table. Bring them over the table, allow them to bargainwithout fear of deportation and let them get used to a higher standard of living and wage increases will follow.

c) you're right. It's completely unfair. Does it make legal immigrants feel better to know that other people have to go through the same frustrating, messed up, unfair system? I'm in favor of cutting those out wherever we can.

 

 

 

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 07:43 | 1094378 AnAnonymous
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I certainly did not mean that.

Illegal immigration in the US is fabricated because the US is the result of illegal immigration.

Settlers were not invited on the american ground. They denied property rights to the legitimate land owners and stole the continent.

They crafted laws to appear as the natural denizens of the place (best being those US citizens claiming an Indian ascendance in order to naturalize themselves, pathetic)

US citizens have lost since their inception the ground to speak about illegal immigration.

Mexicans who descended from original people are much more in a position to speak about illegal immigration. Yet through law, they are made the illegal immigrants. How ironic.

That is the US way. And that is why nothing has to be expected from the US, only decadence, fantasy and failure to take responsibility.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:14 | 1094703 EvlTheCat
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Mexicans are part European or did you conveniently forget that? French Canadians are just as mixed with Native Americans as the Mexicans are.  Do we get a chunk of America in reparation? If we take your argument only Native Americans should be legal.   Great, lets all get in boats and sail back to Europe. You history progressives conveniently forget the civilized and uncivilized would has been concurred countless times.  By your befuddled thinking, we should all keep rewinding the clock until the first amoeba waged war on the first protozoa or paramecia.   You simply look at history and see how it will benefit your particular situation and define it as such.  Great!  That does not mean you are going to get your way of thinking adopted by the conquerors.  So do also spend your time bitching about how unfair all the wars were, which defined Europe?  What about the countless wars in Ancient Africa?

You had something, it got taken away by force.  Come and get it back by force, or not.  Just shut up your whining about how unfair Americans are.

 Life has winners and losers, but unfortunately you central planning progressives want to try and suppress this natural balance so everyone is a winner at some level.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:37 | 1097028 Broker NotBroke
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Winning!

 

but seriously, they don't want everyone to win, they want to win and they know how to get what they want.

 

Everybody wants to rule the world

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ni_c0IMP-c&feature=related

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:19 | 1094731 EvlTheCat
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Very thoughtful response.  I do not agree with some of your points but like your earlier post I do agree with a number of points.  I just do not have time to go over them now.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 04:43 | 1094180 Creed
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The concept of illegal immigration in the US is fabricated.

 

BULLSHIT

 

Typical liberal no- one- do- anything- because- it- might- be -morally-wrong complete motherfucking bullshit while someone rapes your mother & kills your 3 year old son with a stick crap.

 

I mesh with illegals everyday. They don't melt into the pot they stay illegal, they stay Mexican or Somali or Haitian or Russian. The ones that melt are American.

America is ONE FUCKING LANGUAGE AND THAT'S ENGLISH. Like it or leave it. Become American. There are no hyphenated Americans, only Americans.

 

That is our strength.

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 07:46 | 1094386 AnAnonymous
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America might be languages but it should not be english.

US citizens should be the first concerned to become Americans as most of them originated from illegal immigration.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 05:57 | 1094242 Urban Redneck
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I don’t mean to go 18th century of the kids or government tools who drafted this (/s) but “Rights” are endowed by a Creator and cannot be revoked by the State, “Privileges and Immunities” are granted by the State and subject to revocation, and “Policies” are enacted by agents of the State through “Laws” and “Regulations”.  This manifesto reads like a fantasy potpourri of the three distinct groups above drafted by a spoiled generation deprived of basic education. 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:55 | 1093850 HuggaBushy
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"Make Healthcare a Human Right". <- In other words, doctors are slaves.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:58 | 1093865 SilverBaron
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Doctors are already slaves being forced to work for medicare payments.

Better Idea-- Teach our kids medicine so they don't have to worry about going to a doctor and being bankrupted because every family will have thier own.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 05:08 | 1094201 mdwagner
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How about "Make Healthcare affordable to all".

Get rid of government involvement and eliminate insurance and frivilous lawsuits.  Stop destroying the middle class and poor.  Give incentives to save money by letting the free market set interest rates.  That would make healthcare affordable to all.

Before govenment and insurance takeover of healthcare, doctors and hospitals used to give free healthcare to the poor. VOLUNTARILY

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:57 | 1093853 hayleecomet
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Start showing us whay you've got, Anon.  Enough talk already.  Hack it, print it, then we can talk about unifying.  I guarantee that "proof" will be much more of a game starter than the letter you've written.  BRING IT.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 00:57 | 1093855 e_goldstein
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I want to know what "define and prosecute financial terrorists" means.

Seems the only time I heard that term mentioned recently is during the prosecution of the guy who was minting silver in North Carolina.

Apart from that, I could get onboard. 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:00 | 1093866 Broker NotBroke
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Hint: it starts with a B, and rhymes with "Hanky Panky"

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:05 | 1093883 Misean
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Banky Panky?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:18 | 1093927 Broker NotBroke
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Banky Stanky

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 07:03 | 1094305 snowball777
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anke, anke, bo-banke

Banana-fana fo-fanke

Fee-fi-mo-manke

Bernanke!

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:02 | 1093870 jballz
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I would say this is FAKE>>>>

 

but, anybody could call themselves anonymous, couldn't they?

 

but, pretty scatterbrained (please don't hack me for expressing that opinion. In theory, I am one of you)

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:04 | 1093879 Occams Aftershave
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And Lincolned ordered attacks in his own citizens, as did Qadaffy.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:04 | 1093884 JW n FL
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I LOVE how a call to arms.. in the first 10 posts turns into this ugly personal bullshit.. that smells of dis / mis information...

 

anything but lets all get together.. there are always one or two idiots that have to fuck up comments at the top.. be the first to be anti jew or whatever.. and make Fight Club look like shit.. Tyler I would like you to source those fucking idiots IP Addresses.. is it the same guy? is it some idiot republican who got ran then fuck outa here? how about some pissed dumbocrat? who and why does there always need to be a divide driven between people here.. in the first 10 comments? every fucking time.. if it was buy fucking gold.. everyone would be sucking dick.. but lets all get together and fuck up the FED turns into.. I dont like his eye shadow, I dont like his wig.. I dont like his lipstick.. what ever you fucking homos do on your fucking time is your fucking business.. but for those of us that wish to get together with anyone who wants to end the FED and Free our Country I am on board with.. Jew, Spic, WHOP, DIKE.. I dont give a fuck what they do on thier time.. thats there business.. I want people who want to start a war.. information spreading.. picketing... something other than this childish dis / mis information bullshit... EVERY FUCKING TIME!

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 04:47 | 1094184 Creed
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JW this isn't the first 10 posts and you are spamming us with bullshit here.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 07:04 | 1094307 snowball777
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You've earned it, in spades.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:06 | 1093894 onlooker
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May I point out that Obama promised transparent government and C Span coverage on stuff?

May I point out that under Pelosi and Obama we have had a covert, opaque, shadow government?

May I point out that to achieve Freedom and justice and transparent government, the last thing that is wanted is a shadow organization/group/entity that says change and hides in the shadows?

 

What is apparent is more of the same “change” under a more covert/shadow/opaque movement.

 

You want to lead? You want change? You want our support? You want America to be the land of our fathers and land for our children?

 

IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT???

 

Then, by God, stand in the light.
Stand up you son of a bitch so that I can see you. Come out of the shadows if you are real.

 But, please, don’t cut class to do it. We need young minds, domestic or foreign.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 02:10 | 1094054 SilverBaron
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Fuck that.  Come out in the open and be treated like Assange?  How about the owners of the Fed, the bilderbergers, and all other secretive organizations come out in the open and have all their discussions out in the open.  They wont do it so why should their adversaries?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 07:03 | 1094310 snowball777
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And please stop moving around so much...you're making the snipers queasy.

/sarc

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:08 | 1093897 Defenestrate
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These guys are in desperate need of a proofreader and a call to action (aka what the hell is it you want the reader to DO-- meet somewhere? provide downtime use of computer? throw eggs at Bernanke? WHAT?!!!).

They've aroused great curiosity and some would step up if they knew where the hell to step to. Right now, sound and fury signifying nothing.

And yeah, you do wonder if it's just our off the rails government trolling for anarchists to round up under the new handy but unconstitutional label "terrorist" so they can legally deprive us of due process when they pack us away to a secret camp somewhere.

I'm way too tired. Ranting. Off to bed. Oh sh*t. I have to do the math problem.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:11 | 1093905 Yen Cross
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The Straights Times halts food imports from near plants. I'm pissed off. I'm tired. I'm in fllight. I don't play Effin Asian games. Talk soon. Thanks ZH!

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:19 | 1093930 ultra86
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Anon is a joke. The next ZHer who tells me to stop complaining about their severe botchery of the English language can piss off. I don't care if they are overseas. You want to make a difference in this country?? Learn how to properly present your points of view or get lost. I'd also agree with many of the posts above, healthcare is not a right in a free society. Anonymous will live up to their name, FORGOTTEN.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:20 | 1093933 Pool Shark
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Their list of demands should have included a spell-checker...

 

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:20 | 1093935 virgule
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I wonder why this is limited to the USA - why not expand this to many other places suffering from same or worse problems?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 02:09 | 1094049 Filthy Rotter
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I think a lot of the rest of the world feels America has lost her way.  America needs help.  America needs to help itself.  Look at Europe even; at least people take to the streets.  They protest...they shout...they voice their displeasure. Windows get smashed, and things may burn.  They may not get what they want, but their voices are heard.

It just doesn't happen in the US.  Why would Benny, Timmy et al give a moments thought to stopping what they're doing?  Nobody gives a shit!  Not from where they're sitting.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 04:36 | 1094172 Creed
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Americans don't throw temper tantrums.

 

Americans shoot & get shot with finality of purpose.

 

Because of the gravity of the certainty of violence it starts slowly.

 

The rest of the world despises & envies the USA at the same time.

America is the jewel of the world. When this jewel dims you can bet your sweet ass there will be problems enough in your own country to deal with that you won't worry about America for a while.

America has been the glue binding the globe together for all of our lives, most of us- none of us will know how to act when this ends.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 05:51 | 1094233 Filthy Rotter
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"Americans don't throw temper tantrums."

 Horse shit!

"Americans shoot & get shot with finality of purpose."

 How very fucking honorable!

"The rest of the world despises & envies the USA at the same time." Always the way with the pretty ones.

"America is the jewel of the world. When this jewel dims you can bet your sweet ass there will be problems enough in your own country to deal with that you won't worry about America for a while."

Look at the world, mate.  There are serious problems all over the globe.  If you don't think your "jewel" is dimming at an alarming rate...?

"America has been the glue binding the globe together for all of our lives, most of us- none of us will know how to act when this ends."

We'll figure it out.  People always have in the past...we will again.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:24 | 1093941 Jim in MN
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Applause for the project to the degree that the project is to introduce the concept that a platform, a party platform, is necessary to advance a peaceful transformation in a democracy.

It is a supreme challenge because we have all been deliberately conditioned for decades to succumb to polarization.

Let us consider the current version of 'ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country':

What cherished political position or vested interest would you sacrifice in order to demolish the tyrannical machine of today's party politics?

What abominable, reprehensible idea or policy would you take on board to advance the overall objective of victory?

Our condition today is the moral equivalent of war.  What is more important than the Republic and our children's future?  Is pride, moral superiority, intellectual laziness, denial, apathy, easy putdowns going to be the answer?  How about more work, more commitment, more creativity, more focus on what unites than on what divides?

How much of your sense of control as manifest in political statements are you willing to lose in order to win?

I do not think a group of hackers can cobble together the compelling party platform that can split the system open like a ripe melon.  I see this call as in effect asking, or begging, for it.  But when it is developed, I hope good citizens look into their hearts and get on board, because of the warts, not despite them.  Some details can be left for later.  It is the big stuff that matters. 

But going into the 'button pushing' issues can serve to weed out those who lack the toughness to get the job done.  They will self-select out as chatterers and snipers to be ignored.  On both sides of the illusory divide.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:29 | 1093954 Broker NotBroke
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Thank god. I'm gonna order some right now.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:30 | 1093958 onlooker
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ripe melon, nifty. is this a play on words?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:33 | 1093965 bankruptcylawyer
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sig heil!

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:34 | 1093968 enoch_root
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The Constitution has become a Wiki for brain-dead supreme court judges and sold-out congress-critters.

They just edit as they see fit with a whole lot of topical shit until it gets superceded by the next best, latest, feel-good fad driven by the tabloids.

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 07:58 | 1094436 snowball777
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The irony being that they were supposed to be the moderators.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:52 | 1094003 Caviar Emptor
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It's become kool to be a nihilist: to say that any authority is always bad. 

But people who say this weren't around to know the alternative: if government authority decreases somebody else's authority increases. Usually not someone with your best interest in mind. When government was smaller there were also criminal rackets on every street in every city and town. To be allowed to stay in business at all you had to pay protection or a percentage of your take. With no recourse. You couldn't pick and chose your own suppliers. There was no real free market. And if Mr Big decided that he liked your competition better, you were out or you were dead. You can call it "private enterprise", but not the kind you're used to.

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:59 | 1094029 Broker NotBroke
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soo...how is this different?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 02:54 | 1094108 redpill
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I didn't realize this thread was about Chicago politics

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:58 | 1094021 VyseLegendaire
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There's a shitload of spelling mistakes in there.  And its hard to read that grainy resolution. I get the feeling this is a bunch of retired/unemployed 50 -somethings adopting the name 'Anonymous' and trying to be hip and progressive, without realizing that the system cannot really be changed. 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:59 | 1094025 Arkadaba
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And what has changed - not much:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGqrvn3q1oo

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:59 | 1094026 elignorant
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i think this group should present themselves as humans and do not afiliate to any country.... the problem is the same for every country in the world...  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI5hrcwU7Dk

We no longer live in a world of nations and ideologies, Mr Beale. The world is a college of corporations, inexorably determined by the immutable bye-laws of of business. The world is a business, Mr Beale. It has been since man crawled out of the slime.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 02:14 | 1094059 Rusty Shorts
Thu, 03/24/2011 - 02:14 | 1094061 j0sh1130
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these ass clowns and the whole BofA thing is a joke.  so far they have shown that an insurance tracking company tried to force place insurance as often as possible.  really?  i never knew that.  like the stupid fucking letters i get on my numerous mortgages every 6-12 months didnt inform me of this to begin with.  the fuckers are always asking for confirmation of coverage even though i just sent it to them.  my insurance brokers love these. 

 

anyway, where is the fucking meat that shows anyone has purposefully gone after peoples homes?  these guys are worthless.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 04:52 | 1094189 Creed
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hey josh, you really want to get pissy about things

 

try thinking about how the insurance companies colluded with our elected officials to make laws requiring you to carry certain insurance whether you needed it or not, that's a real screamer

 

and that's how these fuckers roll

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 02:55 | 1094111 CEOoftheSOFA
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Abraham Lincoln? Are you kidding me?  He was one of the biggest promoters of expanded central government.  He created a fiat currency (Greenbacks) out of thin air.  He jailed 15,000 dissadents, closed 60 newspapers for printing anti-war editorials, suspended habeous corpus, and declared war on half our country without even trying to find a peaceful solution. 

Andrew Jackson, are you kidding me?  He allowed banks and states to issue fiat paper currency and destroyed the currency and banking system.  He also gave the order to start the Trail of Tears. 

Thomas Jefferson, are you kidding me?  Hecaused a depression by making foreign trade illegal.  He signed a law which excluded Blacks from carrying mail.  He first came up with the idea of deporting the Cherokee. 

You should study your history before making assinine statements like this.  If you want to follow some good presidents, here are a few:  Harding, Coolige, Grant, Washington. 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 02:57 | 1094118 Broker NotBroke
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good places to educate ourselves?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 04:55 | 1094194 Creed
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Abe Lincoln kept a nation together

 

which kept the entire world from falling into a new dark ages in the 1940's-50's

 

didn't follow that shit all the way through did you dumbass?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 05:21 | 1094215 bjennings
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I was about to respond to you but then I realized you must be joking.  Your information is rather flawed.  Jackson wanted so little to do with fiat currency he wanted to go so far as eliminating paper currency all together and limiting money supply to coin.  He is also the only president in the history of the United States to reduce the country's debt to zero.  And most important he was successful in getting rid of the central bank.  I could go on but I only realized you were joking when I see you mention Harding as someone to set an example of a good POTUS.

I think the reasons for listing Lincoln, Jackson, Jefferson, and JFK is for the things they did accomplish not for the mistakes they made. We all know they many mistakes.

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:34 | 1094780 i-dog
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"I was about to respond to you but then I realized you must be joking."

+1.

Well said! Nobody who would tell others to read history could have accidentally included so many obvious misattributions.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 03:10 | 1094130 pcrs
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Lincoln, isn't that the guy who enslaved young men and forced them to fight is tax collection war? Who closed news papers, suspended habeus corpus and threw his opponents in jail and threatened them? Who declared slavery illegal in states where he had no power and said he did not care about slavery as long as it would save the union. If someone forces people to work for you in a draft, you obviously don't care about slavery

JFK who started a war that killed 2 million civilians. Jefferson held slaves himself.

Well, at least the author has realized people are getting enslaved by their governments.

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 04:21 | 1094165 reader2010
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You mean Jefferson's young sex slaves? I desire some too.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 05:09 | 1094205 Creed
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pogues like yourself aren't fit to throw yourself across a mud puddle so men like Thomas Jefferson could walk across your back while keeping their feet dry

 

men like TJ offered their lives, property & sacred honor in order to make a country for freemen to live in

 

what the FUCK have you done, LATELY?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 07:30 | 1094356 pcrs
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1.not own any slaves

2.not founded a gvt which ended up as the biggest government the world has ever seen, with military bases around the world, projecting their power outwards and inwards to its tax slaves

nothing to be shamed off

and what have you done then?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 03:12 | 1094133 hugovanderbubble
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Well im spanish, and i support Anonymous guide points. A pity im not NorthAmerican....

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 04:23 | 1094166 Creed
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welcome hugo

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 04:08 | 1094156 OldPhart
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Shared link on Facebook.  Civic duty done..ooo, Simpson's are on--gotta go.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 04:09 | 1094157 OldPhart
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Shared link on Facebook.  Civic duty done..ooo, Simpson's are on--gotta go.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 04:59 | 1094197 paulypaul
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A group headed by Emmanuel Goldstein no doubt....

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 05:05 | 1094202 Broker NotBroke
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REALLY? man I HATE that guy.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 05:52 | 1094236 Arch Duke Ferdinand
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Congress vs Big Banks....Which is to Blame?....3/Revolution/Starve the Govenrment

 

http://seenoevilspeaknoevilhearnoevil.blogspot.com/2011/03/congress-vs-big-bankswhich-is-to.html

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 05:55 | 1094240 bigargon
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"hello america,

       where just a bunch of posuers who shut down some sites no one cares about. We don't have the balls to publicly announce our convictions. we still want to be cool, but also continue to live in Mom's basement for free. make us even cooler by being our friends. Money would be nice too because many of our members will need cash to renew the subscriptions to their favorite porn sites.

Thank you"

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 06:55 | 1094288 Catullus
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The anon creed...

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 06:12 | 1094249 Sathington Willougby
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This is fucking junk.

 

"Make healthcare a human right" 

A bunch of whiny goddamn slaves want to overthrow the slavemaster so they can turn around and enslave someone.

 

YOU ARE SLAVES.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 06:19 | 1094256 Debtless
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Things will not change since people, unlike industry - with common interests do not organize well. Besides, I think the list of Anon's demands is far too broad.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 06:18 | 1094257 tradewithdave
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See Something

Say Something

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 06:21 | 1094259 mogul rider
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There are days when the blue pill works and other days when the red one is the choice.

Today most are on the blue.

Someday soon , the Anonymous message and shout out will resonate with all and the blue pill will be abolished.

Be forewarned. Tunis, Cairo, are a coming to a town near you. It is the bravery of a few that ignite the passion of the many.

Time is what we all have. The elites have little.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 06:28 | 1094267 papaswamp
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Not going to happen. They announce this in the middle of March Madness? The couch potato won't get up until the cable is cut and the fast food stops flowing....seriously.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 07:00 | 1094298 Bitch Tits
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This article made me think. I wonder what would have happened if everyone, everywhere had sewn a gold star onto their clothing in 1939?

Real power lies where it always has: within each of us.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 07:00 | 1094303 falak pema
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I wonder if our ZH GW is an Anonymous. Probably not...talks too much, but has the same ideas. Probably not the right age group either. Mummy would not be pleased...

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 07:16 | 1094328 cetarro
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Lincoln is the reason we are here today. Without the insidious legal tender law of 1862 the Fed is not possible.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 07:21 | 1094341 slaeris
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Nationalism is a bust.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 07:45 | 1094381 Robert Neville
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FDR opposed the big big banks? Health care is a human right? I want to support these guys but they are as full of shit as any government propagandist.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 07:45 | 1094391 FischerBlack
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I wouldn't join any club that would have me as a member.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 07:54 | 1094421 whoopsing
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Funny stuff Fischer

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 07:46 | 1094394 FoieGras
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Whenver you see a group make big announcements instead of taking action you know they're a bunch of worthless, bored college kids with too much time on their hands.

Did the Baader-Meinhoff gang release press statements instead of taking action? What about Action Directe? Did they?

No, these guys were busy getting their hands dirty and acting instead of just talking.

The 70s had idealists who'd sacrifice their own lifes and those of others. The 2010s have a bunch of computer kids who post harmless youtube videos.

Our future is looking very bleak.

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 07:51 | 1094402 spanish inquisition
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I don't know.....It might interfere with something I was starting to look into. Maybe someone here can help me out...

I can make a citizen arrest. With currently expanding federal powers, pretty sure they are all authorized. Am I now able to make citizen renditions, engage in citizen enhanced interrogations and if I deem someone to be a threat to America, a citizen elimination of threat? I believe I am now able to bypass congress and declare citizen war.......

Let me know if I am off base. Thanks.

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 07:51 | 1094408 whoopsing
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Why do you guy's feel compelled to write an open letter? Approval? You wanna crash the system? Go for it,you don't need me,right? I manifest the struggle within my capability range.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 07:56 | 1094426 savagegoose
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proud to announce my paid membership to anonymous ... no wait.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 07:59 | 1094433 YHC-FTSE
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Agree with every sentiment expressed in the Open Letter, which makes me suspect that it was not written by Americans. If the nit-picking posts above are any indication, there are far too many Americans who will sabotage this effort from the get-go by arguing that the way to progress is to be even more selfish and even more violent than they already are in the time honoured spiteful tradition of America's sweetheart, Aynd Rand. 

 

America belongs to the organized criminals, the selfish, the bigoted, the hateful, and the warmongering. It is Israel's playtoy. These criminals are not some identifiable group you can point your finger at either, they are all around you and even in the mirror. 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 08:10 | 1094462 Northeaster
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As some have posted, there are some good things on the list and some very bad, not to mention too many, which makes this look bogus.

Any "call" would be more focused on two, tops three objectives, this smells. If it is legitimate, it's over before it gets started.

TBTF, PD's and The Federal Reserve would be a nice beginning though.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 08:32 | 1094528 bosco
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I disagree with your list of objectives. This sounds like another Marxist group to me.

Why don't we just restore the constitution, and embrace true free market capitalsim. That would take care of most of the problems.

Healthcare is not a human right. A right cannot be another persons responsibility ( it can not infringe on the right of someone else).

Force corperations to enforce local labor laws globally? The first problem with this statement is the fist word used (force). If we embrace capitalism no one has the right to use force against anyone else. All exchange is voluntary. No one is forced to work for a corporation.

Breakup big media? Isn't the marketplace doing that right now? Aren't you reading zero hedge? We don't need the force of government to do that.

Rebuild infrastructure? With what toenail clippings. You forgeting we are broke.

Improve education? The only way to do that is to get the government out.

I could go on or you can just read Mises, Hayek, Rothbard, Ect. Ect. Encourage people like Ron Paul. We have been going down the Micheal Moore style of government since the beginning of time. Continueing down that path will change nothing. Mises said it's the market or the Government there is no third solution.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 08:40 | 1094552 CB
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Lincoln?  Really? 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:01 | 1094652 Revolution_star...
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I am sovereign and I am an American Insurgent.

My labor is my own and the goverment has no right to tax my labor.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:06 | 1094672 velobabe
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just HACK the shit out of the Evil Empire's network, and be done with it. these jokers in supposed power wouldn't know how to use a flashlight or even change a light bulb. honestly folk,s just hack into the system and destroy it, reset to zero. then you can take it over. i am counting on the smarts of Hacker Collective Anonymous. HCA

Anonymous, bitchez†

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:59 | 1094881 Editor X
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Now is the time for all good men to defecate on politicians and come to the aid of our country.

MAKETHEMFEARYOU.COM

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 10:33 | 1095035 Reductio ad Absurdum
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Andrew Jackson: are they saying we should forcibly deport Indians? (in which case, I agree)

JFK: ??? what did he ever do? Bay of Pigs? Vietnam? have good speech writers? Eisenhower was an infinitely better President and infinitely better human being than JFK ever was; even that damn moon shot was Eisenhower's program

Have you noticed how organized "Anonymous" has suddenly become? I have to believe that this version of "Anonymous" is a foreign intelligence operation, enacted by Russia, China, or some mohameddan terrorist pussies in an effort to (every so slightly) further destabilize the U.S..

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 10:59 | 1095207 Atomizer
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Timing is everything. Anyone notice a story on Drudge Report? Center column near the bottom.

Soros Event Aims to Remake Global Economy, 'Establish New International Rules'...

The hourglass is running out of sand. Again, timing is everything.

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 11:37 | 1095402 aerial view
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To solve a problem, one must first identify the nature and full extent of the problem: let us first demand full transparency in govt at all levels along with those corporations who do business with the govt.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 11:46 | 1095442 WallStreetClass...
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To the Anonymous network operatives:

 

I am the proprietor of WallStreetClassAction domain cluster. Please contact me at wallstreetclassaction@gmail.com or wallstreetclassaction.com@gmail.com. I fully support your efforts and would like to contribute to creation of a "BankLeaks" type of website to help bring down the central banctel monster before it ruins what's left of our country. United we stand!

www.wallstreetclassaction.com

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 12:53 | 1095736 sumosamurai
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At first I thought this manifesto was great.  I then realized how soon it took a turn to the left with all of its communist leanings and colelctive thinking.

 

Sounds like something that was whipped up by a pack of political science sophomores with the aid of the institutions communist faculty. Put the DOPE away!

 

Just fix the economics - stop the looting and start prosecuting. Return the rule of law.

Enforce a few KEY points... if you start branching out with all this silliness then the thing will fold. Stay on track!

 

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 15:46 | 1096466 Carl Spackler
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+1 sumosamurai

 

This reeks of an illegitimate manifesto from an amateur sect influenced by both pharmceuticals and societal sissy-boy illegitimates (i.e., the leftist, "ivory tower crowd" that tells everyone how everything should be but has never had "skin in the game" or actually done it themselves).

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:40 | 1097041 bjennings
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I bet your idea of capitalism is KV Pharma paying someone off at the FDA to gain exclusive distribution rights to a premature birth drug that's been around for over 50 years and then raising the price from $15/injection to over $1,500/injection.  I bet you would call me a communist for recognizing that as corruption.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:33 | 1097016 bjennings
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Well don't just blow out a post peppered with all the divisive buzzwords.  Why don't you elaborate on what is "Communist leanings" and "collective thinking."  What I read in this "manifesto" has more to do with ending socialized losses and privatized gains and has more to do with getting back closer to capitalism and away from corporatism.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 18:50 | 1097265 SilverFiend
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Looks like Amped Status is trying to hype it's Leftist website to me.  That is the problem with someone or something that is Anonymous,  you do not know who you are putting your support behind.

Fri, 03/25/2011 - 09:34 | 1099136 sumosamurai
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Bjennings

When I start reading things like "make healthcare a human right" and requiring an amendment to the constitution for gender rights I start to lose interest quickly. I can quickly see how this can be used to simply hand more money to pharma. ["its required by the consitution for us to do this" becomes the arguement]

Its not that I don't believe in equal pay for equal work, but we already have laws.

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The biggest problem is US debt - debts due to the entitlement mentality and participation in "nation building/destruction."

The second problem is the wall street criminal class. Enforce the law!

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The manifesto itself is vague  and confused in many sections.... it is impossible to give details due to the document itself.  One example are the conflicts that arise between issues as universal health care, entitlement debt, and compulsory edicts against the individual.

I can tell the manifesto has not been thought out to accomplish ANY goal. Its simply a laundry list of complaints. When behavior (that is not criminal) is compelled, I start looking at a hidden agenda and who is the tyrant that wants to rule the world.

Best to know who the bedfellows truly are - especially those that want to be percieved as saviors.

The best thing for any government to do is get the hell out of the way of its citizens and see that criminal laws are enforced.

De oppresso liber

 

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