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Has Goldman Become The Best Contrarian Indicator?

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Anecdotal evidence that Goldman's prop group enjoys doing the opposite of what its sellside recommends and clients do is one thing. Having become the laughing stock of the investing world, in which everyone does precisely the opposite of what Goldman advises its clients to do (but according to Andy Sorkin, the clients just love the firm), is something totally different. The latest example is Goldman's call from June 9 for a 1.15 target in the EURUSD. "Oddly" enough, the pair has gone diagonal since then... in the opposite direction. With every stop in the trade now triggered, is it time for the firm's Long Term strategists to reevaluate their call, not even a full 168 hours since the first abysmal recommendation? We hope the lesson here has now been learned: as we suggested a week ago: "Thomas Stolper is officially advising clients to sell their euros to
Goldman. There is no clearer signal to buy the beaten down currency." Looking at the chart below, never doubt the dodecatuple reverse psychology of the squid.

full GS report

 

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Tue, 06/15/2010 - 11:45 | 414674 bugs_
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Could Goldman be right this time?

Tue, 06/15/2010 - 11:51 | 414698 Turd Ferguson
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This is either a good sign, a bad sign or nothing. I can't decide.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_lightning_strikes_jesus_statue

Tue, 06/15/2010 - 12:07 | 414757 thesapein
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The son of a bastard just won't stay dead.

Tue, 06/15/2010 - 12:08 | 414759 Hansel
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LMAO!  Touchdown Jesus, lol.

Tue, 06/15/2010 - 11:54 | 414707 AssFire
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never doubt the dodecatuple schizophrena of the squid

Tue, 06/15/2010 - 11:55 | 414709 John Law
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Any trader with half a brain could see this move higher coming. This just shows how stupid and gullible Goldman's clients are. The EUR/USD was waaaaaay oversold on the weekly. 

But all this is, is a technical bounce. As I said in the volume post this is just resetting the technicals for the next big move down.

http://s873.photobucket.com/albums/ab298/johnlaw1/?action=view&current=e...

Tue, 06/15/2010 - 11:56 | 414712 butchee
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Tyler

It is dodecatuple+1 in months that do not end with "R"  Keep your facts straight.

Tue, 06/15/2010 - 12:00 | 414728 Hunch Trader
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Weird ass day, VIX down, everything else up. Gold, stocks, euro going up in tandem, yen not doing much of anything.

 

Tue, 06/15/2010 - 12:37 | 414850 Internet Tough Guy
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Oil heading back to 80. Enjoy your summer vacation.

Tue, 06/15/2010 - 12:00 | 414730 thesapein
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The black canary sings again!

Tue, 06/15/2010 - 12:02 | 414738 Turd Ferguson
Tue, 06/15/2010 - 12:03 | 414745 kaiten
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"...is it time for the firm's Long Term strategists to reevaluate..."

No, it´s time to fire the Long Term STRATEGISTS ;)

Tue, 06/15/2010 - 12:07 | 414755 Missing_Link
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ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNO-SQUID!

Tue, 06/15/2010 - 12:44 | 414874 JOHNICON
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Score a perfect 10 for the Hypno-Toad, I mean Hypno-Squid!

I loved Futurama, I even named my cat Nibbler.  :-D

Tue, 06/15/2010 - 12:14 | 414776 sheeple
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Doing god's work

Tue, 06/15/2010 - 12:17 | 414785 VK
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Amen.

Tue, 06/15/2010 - 13:07 | 414929 Fazzie
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 Gods work according to the squid sure involves a lot of public deception.

Tue, 06/15/2010 - 12:22 | 414800 Bankster T Cubed
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God bless ZH

 

and may the world come down on GFS with everything its got

Tue, 06/15/2010 - 12:24 | 414807 Mitchman
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Can you send this to BP who just hired them?

Tue, 06/15/2010 - 12:28 | 414823 Quinvarius
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I think GS has had their info lines to the Fed and Treasury cut.  With no actual talent, they are either a chop shop or the dumb money.  If they are the dumb money, they will eventually become the chop shop due to serious character flaws.  So I vote chop shop.

Tue, 06/15/2010 - 12:39 | 414857 jkruffin
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It's about time for a Goldman EURO 1.30 prediction, that will sink it back down to 1.15

Play accordingly.

Tue, 06/15/2010 - 12:39 | 414859 Cerulean
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There is a very useful indicator for the Euro.

It's the Euro Index published daily by the ECB trading today at 101.19

http://www.ecb.int/stats/exchange/effective/html/index.en.html

Tue, 06/15/2010 - 12:51 | 414895 omi
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If Goldman will say that their clients should buy Gold, will ZH commentary be

"Even Goldman now gets it that you should own Gold..."

 

or "Sell all your gold now."

Tue, 06/15/2010 - 13:47 | 414997 You Cant Handle...
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Well, you'd have to ask:  short term or long term?

Gold actually has intrinsic value in its rarity as a fundamental element of nature.  Euros and Dollar Bills are as intrinsically valuable as Confederate currency.  

So if Goldman suddenly advised its clients to buy gold, I think that would be a strong signal to sell if you are worried about the IMMEDIATE value of your gold in fiat currency.  (i.e. you are a TRADER.)

But long term, nothing Goldman says either way will matter to an INVESTOR.  You know, those people who used to trade in markets based on the fundamentals of the value of things.  Sure miss those guys.

Tue, 06/15/2010 - 12:53 | 414906 the grateful un...
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So you've never been to the racetrack? Goldman probably earns more fees for funds under management, ergo their multi-tiered investment advice. Did you think the touts were going to put their $100 winner on the same card they sell the suckers for two bucks?

 And of course having a legitimate cause to publish conflicting opinions in no way makes you The Lemon Drop Kid, a short story by Damon Runyon, played by Bob Hope in the movie. It does allow you to be all things to all people, the primary symptom of political narcissism. and I do think that after the next flash crash Goldman will own the entire US government, including the Obama children's swing set.

 

That's why these CEOs are running in CA. They know the boat race is about to begin. Just for poetic gander, which two horses are the darling of the thoroughbred world? Zenyatta and Rachel Alexandra. Learn to love the squid, when he puts his tentacles around the rest of the global economy, the tribute will come rolling home. On top by a dozen lengths.

Tue, 06/15/2010 - 16:57 | 415507 Overleveraged_a...
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Wow, good call Tyler...

 

I wonder if this has potential for 1.30 or not

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