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Here Are The Refineries And Nuclear Power Plants Threatened If The Morganza Spillway Is [Opened|Shut]

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As we reported previously, Obama has found himself on the verge of another environmental scandal now that he has no choice but to redirect the Mississippi river via the Morganza spillway - either lose millions in barrels of daily refined production and potentially the impairment of the Colonial Pipeline, two events which would promptly cause gas prices to soar to new records, or redirect the river via the Spillway, and cause the flooding of millions of acres, and numerous towns and cities, and possibly another New Orelans bases crisis. It seems Obama has picked the lesser of two evils: i.e., protect the oil: "The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers said on Friday it anticipates opening the Morganza Spillway on the western bank of the swollen Mississippi River to divert floodwaters into the Atchafalaya River basin and protect Baton Rouge, Louisiana, New Orleans and refineries from flooding. The Corps of Engineers had been planning next week to open the spillway, about 45 miles (72 km) northwest of Baton Rouge, but could do so as soon as Saturday as high water continues making its way downriver." On the other hand, opening the spillway will also lead to plant impairments: " Opening the spillway will disrupt operations at Alon USA Energy's  80,000-bpd Krotz Springs, Louisiana, refinery. An Alon spokesman said on Friday that the plant was operating normally as crews continued to build a second levee to prevent Atchafalaya River waters from flooding the refinery within 10 to 14 days of the Morganza opening. The new levee will supplement existing levees." And there is more: it appears that not only are refineries in danger, but three nuclear power plants are also in danger of being flooded: Entergy's 1,176-megawatt Waterford nuclear plant in St. Charles Parish, Louisiana; its 978-megawatt River Bend nuclear plant in West Feliciana Parish, Louisiana, and the 1,268-megawatt Grand Gulf nuclear station in Clairborne County, Mississippi."

Below are the refineries which are threatened unless the Morganza is open:

  • Alon USA Energy <ALJ.N> Krotz Springs, Louisiana : 80,000
  • Chalmette Refining <XOM.N> Chalmette, Louisiana: 192,500
  • ConocoPhillips <COP.N> Belle Chasse, Louisiana: 247,000
  • Exxon Mobil Corp <XOM.N> Baton Rouge, Louisiana: 504,500
  • Marathon Oil Corp <MRO.N> Garyville, Louisiana: 436,000
  • Motiva Enterprises <RDSa.L> Convent, Louisiana: 235,000
  • Motiva Enterprises <RDSa.L> Norco, Louisiana: 234,700
  • Murphy Oil Corp <MUR.N> Meraux, Louisiana: 120,000
  • Valero Energy Corp <VLO.N> Memphis, Tennessee: 180,000
  • Valero Energy Corp <VLO.N> St. Charles, Louisiana 185,000

And here are those in danger if the Spillway is open:

  • BP <BP.L> America Production Co 10,703
  • Petroquest <PQ.N> Energy LLC 8,757
  • Apache Corp <APA.N> 4,986
  • ConocoPhillips <COP.N> Inc 2,661
  • Stone Energy <SGY.N> Corp 2,232
  • Chevron <CVX.N> USA Inc 1,467
  • Dune <DUNR.OB> Operating Co 1,407
  • Swift Energy <SFY.N> Optg LLC 1,241

Additionally, the following traffic has been impaired:

SHIP TRAFFIC:

The tanker Zaliv Baikal turned back from going to a dock in Baton Rouge because its captain didn't think the vessel had enough clearance beneath the I-10 Bridge over the Mississippi at Baton Rouge.

Berths at Exxon's docks in Baton Rouge were flooding on Thursday, which may make docking tankers difficult in the coming days, according to sources familiar with refinery operations. Exxon said the refinery continues to operate normally.

BARGE TRAFFIC:

Barge traffic is moving along the Mississippi River with some restrictions and no closures. Barges were running near Baton Rouge, but facing difficult river conditions.

Mississippi River restrictions include length of barge (no greater than 600 feet), energy requirement (greater than 250 horsepower), speed (3 miles/hour) and prior notification requests before navigation starts. To that end, barge traffic is open in places like St. Louis and Memphis with restrictions.

TERMINALS SHUT:

Magellan Midstream Partners <MMP.N> said it discontinued operations at its 2.8 million-barrel storage terminal in Marrero, Louisiana, close to New Orleans, after it finished loading barges on Friday.

Nearly 20 percent of barge terminals that the U.S. Coast Guard monitors on the Ohio River remained closed on Thursday. The Smithland Lock and Dam at mile marker 918.5 on the river remains closed, obstructing barge traffic both up and downstream.

 

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Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:30 | 1272406 wang
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deja vu

Jindal urged southeastern Louisiana residents to evacuate.

Where's Ray Nagin when you need him

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:31 | 1272439 camaro68ss
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O cool, very bullish!

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:48 | 1272479 AnonymousAnarchist
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This will never be reported in the liberal Galactic Empire Times (the comments are better than the article) [via ICYMI].

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:12 | 1272541 That Peak Oil Guy
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Look, there's a new gray swan in the black swan clusterflock!  Perhaps it is a cygnet and has not molted yet.

TPOG

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:20 | 1272578 eureka
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+ 1500/35 - and certain to rise ... -
everyone check Max Keiser's Sprott interview posted today.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 16:05 | 1272742 Oh regional Indian
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I think the big New Madrid Shake is coming.

Read about the "unexpected" little quake in Spain yesterday?

Hmmmm.....

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/03/16/american-cross-nuclear-rumbles/

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 18:20 | 1273163 cossack55
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Of course there is the matter of DHS/FEMA request for bid for 12 million long shelf life meals and 6 million body bags for the New Madrid Fault Zone two months ago. Big "out of stock" item in survival food sites.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 21:27 | 1273514 j.darkness
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FEMA NLE 2011 begins may 16th http://www.henryco.com/publicsafety/ema/publicreleases/Earthquake%20Press%20Release%202011.pdf if there is a coincidental (HAARP) earthquake during this exercise it will be time to buy the farm!

Sat, 05/14/2011 - 05:27 | 1273921 zhandax
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The natural periodicity of New Madrid is around every 500 years and the last major event was 199 years ago.  Until now I have not considered HAARP as capable of producing seismic events, but if the New Madrid fires mid-cycle I may have to reconsider.  The body bags are more likely the result of some HS district director needing to spend his funding so it will be renewed next year.

Sat, 05/14/2011 - 11:40 | 1274244 Betty Swallsack
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???  The last seismic event was 500 years ago?  Who recorded it?  Where are such absurd stats pulled from?

A series of three to five major earthquakes (believed to have been magnitude 7.0 or larger earthquakes) occurred in the NMSZ in the two month period between Dec. 16, 1811 and February 7, 1812. Several thousand additional “smaller” earthquakes occurred during the three month period from Dec. 16, 1811 to March 16, 1812. These included 15 quakes of magnitude 6.5 to 8 (the size range of the 1989 San Francisco, 1994 Los Angeles and 1995 Kobe, Japan earthquakes) and 189 quakes of magnitude 5 to 6.5. Two thousand of these quakes were felt by people, indicated by crude seismograph instruments and recorded in personal journals at Louisville, Kentucky and Cincinnati, Ohio, which are respectively 250 and 350 miles away. The New Madrid area was at the very frontier of European settlement at this time so there were very few non-native Americans living in the immediate area to report the earthquakes.

 

Sat, 05/14/2011 - 13:28 | 1274395 zhandax
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Betty, you went to public school didn't you?

Sat, 05/14/2011 - 22:42 | 1275386 New_Meat
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"Until now I have not considered HAARP as capable of producing... "

Hang around on 3.39 MHz and see what's going on ;-)

- Ned

Sat, 05/14/2011 - 10:32 | 1274147 goldfish1
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See? No problems:

A worker at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant fell unconscious at work on Saturday and later died.

The worker in his 60s complained of ill health while working at a waste processing facility. He worked for a subcontracting firm of Tokyo Electric Power Company.

The man was taken to a medical office in the plant, where he was found to have lost consciousness. He was then taken by ambulance to a hospital in Iwaki City and confirmed dead shortly after 9:30 AM. The cause of his death is unknown.

Tokyo Electric says the worker had been transporting equipment since Friday. He was scheduled to work for 3 hours from 6:00 AM on Saturday.

The company says the worker had put on a full protective suit and was not exposed to radioactive substances.

This was the first time that a worker at the Daiichi plant died after the March 11th disaster.

Saturday, May 14, 2011 12:20 +0900 (JST)

The web of lies is mindboggling.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 23:06 | 1277985 jonjon831983
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Neato, but makes sense of just being prepared in context of the seemingly increased geological activity throughout the world.

 

 

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:43 | 1272664 Poundsand
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Spit on my keyboard when I read this comment:

"Sadly, even this victory likely won't satisfy Vader's critics -- they can't stand that he is black."

You were right, the comments are great!

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 21:45 | 1273553 Pool Shark
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Anon-Anarchist,

That has got to be the funniest parody I've ever seen; the comments are true comedy gold.

The best part is clicking back and forth between the link to the original NYTimes article and watching Obama transform into Vader and vice-versa.

Priceless....

Sat, 05/14/2011 - 09:50 | 1274100 OldTrooper
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Nice!  Use the Farce...feel the Farce flowing around you!

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 16:56 | 1272951 divide_by_zero
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Long FEMA trailers?

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 17:11 | 1273022 MiguelitoRaton
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This is insufficient information for our leaders to make a decision. Erase the production information and replace it with their political donation information, THEN a political decision can be made.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:37 | 1272455 NOTW777
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parking more buses

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:48 | 1272480 Dr. Richard Head
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Quick, someone find some athletic stadiums to shove everyone into.  We need martial law, take away the South's guns.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:10 | 1272542 earnyermoney
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I've seen some SEC games at Tiger Stadium on TV. Everyone can hang there till the water receeds.

Sat, 05/14/2011 - 05:57 | 1273923 zhandax
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And Dr. Head, we can always use more practice.  I think you will find martial law backfires down here.  The soldiers will want to be on the side with better aim (and manners).  Where do you think all these volunteers come from, Boston?

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:51 | 1272486 Manthong
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No problems.

National flood insurance and federal assistance should pick up the tab..  and look at all the new economic activity that will result.

Very bullish developments.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:28 | 1272609 Dr. Richard Head
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Question - what funds did the flood insurers "invest" all of those premiums in?  Munibonds?  LMFAO

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:56 | 1272703 3.7.77
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I thought so too, but apparently a lot of the people in the flood plain below the levees get letters from the Army Corp of Engineers every year stating they could be flooded and the .Gov will not be responsible.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 18:42 | 1273207 trav7777
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give them all FEMA cards...we can't have anything bad happen to black people

Sat, 05/14/2011 - 06:29 | 1273933 zhandax
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Trav, that is just the headline benefit brigade.  This is going to jack up your food and energy supply and you need to hope that since this is a conscious decision to divert water that enough compensation is allocated to the affected parties that they are still around to produce next year.  If not, it might be worth an FOI to see whose pockets those who end up with titles to the properties have been lining.

Sat, 05/14/2011 - 17:16 | 1274687 acrabbe
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you think this is about black people? lol, you're such a joke dude

Sat, 05/14/2011 - 22:46 | 1275396 New_Meat
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Manlypouch:

"National flood insurance..."

Nope, annual letter from the Corpse of Engineers takes care of that.  Paraphrasing: 'you stupid cajuns are in a  place where we might flood any time, no insurance, u b hosed.'

- Ned

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:53 | 1272501 Hugh G Rection
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Dump the exposed fuku fuel rods in the river and the floodwater will evaporate.

 

Solve 2 problems at once.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 16:04 | 1272726 Sancho Ponzi
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Can't they just put a tent under it?

Sat, 05/14/2011 - 10:38 | 1274153 goldfish1
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This is the kind of thinking that will get you a wonderful position in the asminstrative offices. Are you a good public speaker?

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:57 | 1272509 I am more equal...
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In Baton Rouge and went to the levee at lunch.  They are serious down here.  They have police on horseback riding up and down the levee in the CBD.  Remember to flush twice, New Orleans needs the water. 

I predict a levee breach and massive inland flooding. 

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:25 | 1272583 Federal Reserf
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How close to the top of the levee is the river?

My brother in NOLA said it is surreal to drive down Tchoupitoulas and look up at the hulls of ships.

 

If an East bank levee fails in the wrong place, it is game over.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:39 | 1272638 I am more equal...
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About 3 to 6 feet where I was standing.  They won't let you on the levee at all.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 19:16 | 1273280 slewie the pi-rat
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dike security

always important

Sat, 05/14/2011 - 06:16 | 1273943 zhandax
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Always is at the LPGA......

Sat, 05/14/2011 - 06:29 | 1273947 Stormdancer
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Janet Reno still has a Secret Service detail???

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 16:44 | 1272912 FreeNewEnergy
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Thanks for that cheery assessment. Bullish, bully, bully! Hi-ho, it's Friday, let the drinking commence.

On my second already and I need to fix another cocktail. This one is broken.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 16:11 | 1272751 Hugh G Rection
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I hope we kept the receipt for the Louisiana Purchase.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 16:50 | 1272927 FreeNewEnergy
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+60 million francs ($11,250,000) + cancellation of debts worth 18 million francs ($3,750,000) = 15 million dollars for the Louisiana territory ($219 million in 2010 dollars)

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 22:42 | 1273649 Ergo
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FYI to all:  Chemical plants and refineries on the gulf coast are designed to go through cat 5 storms and be OK if flooded.  That doesn't mean that they are built or maintained correctly.  But this does happen from time-to-time. 

As a chemical engineer and an attorney, I'm fairly shocked by how bad Fukushima was designed, located and maintainted.  That was completely insane.  But other than BP, most of our gulf coast facilities should be OK. 

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:24 | 1272407 FOC 1183
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If opened, a lot of wells will shut (albeit temporarily) as the water flows through the Atchafalya Basin

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:56 | 1272505 Sancho Ponzi
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Here it comes...

'Initial unemployment claims rose unexpectedly last week due to flooding along the Mississippi river.' 

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:06 | 1272535 j0nx
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You know that shit is coming. Don't even bother to act surprised.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:20 | 1272569 DB Cooper
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But what about all the sandbagger jobs created? Bullish! sarc/

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:30 | 1272601 Dr. Richard Head
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This is Keynesian economics at its best.  Think about it.  New levees will need to be built, farmland will need to be reworked, we have commodity destruction in agriculture, and homes will need to be fixed.  This will be the only GDP growth that will be seen and naturally occurring.  The commies couldn't even dream of this wonderful boost to growth, fuck the displaced right? 

Shit, with the New Deal in 1933, for example, Congress had to actually pass the Agricultural Adjustment Act (AAA) to provide economic relief to farmers. The AAA had at its core a plan to raise crop prices by paying farmers a subsidy to compensate for voluntary cutbacks in production. Funds for the payments would be generated by a tax levied on industries that processed crops. By the time the act had become law, however, the growing season was well underway, and the AAA encouraged farmers to plow under their abundant crops.

Now we can just "turn on the water", no legislation needed bitchez.  FDR would be fucking proud.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 16:30 | 1272639 Hephasteus
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The great lakes will dump into the gulf of mexico. The mississipi will be like 30 miles across.

Sat, 05/14/2011 - 10:47 | 1274167 goldfish1
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Hhaarp technician #1: So, you think that if we make it rain here, we can drive the water down the Mississippi and flush out the gulf from some of that toxic waste?

Technician #2: Yeah, we might not get it just right, but probly it'll work. I mean we went a bit overboard in Japan. Now I can't eat the fukking strawberries from cali.

Hhaarp technician #1: Ok then, I'll get the ok from the boss...he won't care, he's on pron and you fire up the rain maker.

 

 

 

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:26 | 1272410 knukles
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Go for it.

No wait.  Maybe declare an emergency, first, before it's too late. 

But don't worry, no need to after all, it's all temporary.  Commodity prices should fall and stocks rise. 

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:53 | 1272494 JW n FL
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Transition, the water is just passin thru.. water is being redirected for a short time and really a very small amount of water.. as compared to the Atlantic or Pacific Ocean.. the amount of time the water will be there will likely be so short that it will not even be soaked in to the earth.. no absorbtion into the saturated landscape.. think a really big slip and slide for trees and animals.. maybe some houses and very few people.. the mostly likely to be affected would be the weak.. so if you are not old or a child.. dont worry! its just a transition flood.. transitioning away from Oil into peoples back yards!

Transitory, flooding of people to save oil.. a blib on the scale of time that is history.. does not even matter in the big picture.. perfectly ok and even natural given the circumstance.. the new normal for a short time in the time line that is humanity! So No worries!

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 16:20 | 1272787 knukles
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So JW, where's the Administration/president's response, declaration of a multi state national emergency, criticism of the event/declaration delay, mobilisation of FEMA, whatthefuckeverelse that the past administration was tattooed, castigated and openly roundly criticised for when something similar occurred in New Orleans?

Which BTW, was not as predictable as this has been.... like this has been know to be a comin' for quite some time. 
JHFC, I'm suffering from the cynicism that defines bullshit fatigue. 

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 17:29 | 1273052 nmewn
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To the Biden Cave Robin!...LOL.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 18:27 | 1273171 cossack55
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Don't sweat it, K. I'm a super cynic and I'm lovin' all this shit. I'm thinking about doing some standup. This is some funny shit. LOL

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 18:47 | 1273211 trav7777
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there wasn't an opportunity to spin it as racism.

Every time blacks fail or anything bad happens to a black person, it is a result of white racism. 

Unfortunately this time the President is the jew darling and they are who installed him and set the message you see and hear.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 19:14 | 1273279 nmewn
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Get with the program, its his white half that causes him to fail ;-)

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:23 | 1272411 lettuce
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this is a very interesting developing story. a point to note is that the preparedness of these refineries and terminals may have increased over the past few years following the hurricanes katrina and rita, but that will be seen soon enough.

 

despite the outages that may or may not occur, unplanned outages are running at extremely high levels in an already-tight gas market (look at the term structure).

 

lastly there is also the aspect of the river itself as a transit route for finished and raw product. clearly boat traffic on the river is now and will be disrupted for some time ... and this is not something that will be clear until the dest settles and the crest passes to sea.

 

thanks for posting this.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:34 | 1272437 Eternal Student
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+1. Agreed. I look at the MSM and just don't see these stories. At best they come out with a delay, as well as watered down.

Well done, Tyler.

I'll also add that I see stories like these and think of Joseph Tainter.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:35 | 1272449 lettuce
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i was extremely pleased to be able to buy UGA yesterday into a down day and after the rout from wednesday's DOE report. i was actually hoping to see a bearish number on wednesday, saw it and immediately the strategy to buy was set.

 

i think an interesting strategy here would be long gasoline and short crude but that only lasts as long as there are supply constraints because the crack spread wont be this high forever...

 

</amateur but enthusiastic energy trader>

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:28 | 1272595 SecondComing
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Concerning Tainter and chaoplexity theory: collapse of complex adaptive systems are symptomatic of sub- and supervenient system collapse; i.e. the collapse occuring now is biogeochemical as well as cultural/societal/racial/intellectual—a collapse of epic, dare I write Universal, proportions.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 16:07 | 1272747 Oh regional Indian
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A complex sentence but spot on.

We are at a tipping point!

ORI

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2010/06/18/of-tipping-points-and-shape-shifting/

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 18:28 | 1273175 TraderTimm
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All due respect, but I think part of being in a complex system is you don't get to identify the cause until after the fact. I am an avid reader of ZeroHedge, but calling when it all goes to hell is a very tricky proposition indeed. All we can really say is it will happen, not precisely when.

Cheers.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:32 | 1272610 Peak Everything
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Tainter - one of the very few who understand what is going on

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:38 | 1272458 Dreadker
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I was reading up on this... the problem is they bolstered for flooding approaching FROM the ocean in the form of storm surges... not the other way.... who'd have thunk that a river can flood in BOTH directions lol

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:40 | 1272464 lettuce
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i guess you do not have a beach house!!!

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:33 | 1272623 Urban Redneck
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The mighty Mekong makes the Mississippi look like amateur hour, it also makes the entire Tonle Sap River flow uphill every year like clockwork.  The Cambodians are lucky they don't have the US Army Corps of Engineers advising them on disaster prevention and mitigation.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:38 | 1272641 Urban Redneck
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dup

Sat, 05/14/2011 - 10:05 | 1274112 OldTrooper
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Yeah, who would have ever expected water to run downhill?  Do you have a link to your articles?

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:26 | 1272412 Weisbrot
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couldnt it be opened just a tiny-lil bit?

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:29 | 1272434 SilverRhino
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Sure, just like she can be a tiny-lil bit pregnant.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:10 | 1272545 Steaming_Wookie_Doo
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Sure, that way 500K acres are only 6 inches underwater, rather than 3-4 feet. No worries. I know you were being sarc, but this is for the more literally minded folks.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:23 | 1272413 TheTmfreak
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This is a pretty awful situation, but who knew the government would side with the big donors. Sigh. I guess if they stopped fucking preventing the river from going where it is supposed to go then this wouldn't be a "government make your choice of whos property you sacrifice." Whos needs are more important? Such a nonsensical question.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:26 | 1272415 bogey4
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That damn Obama, making it rain and everything!

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:42 | 1272462 NOTW777
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just a matter of time before this crisis turns into a relect barack opportunity.  too early for photo opps

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:51 | 1272487 Dr. Richard Head
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Bush breaks his silence, "Heck of a job brownie" - allegedly.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:01 | 1272520 williambanzai7
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Heck of a job Bammy

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 16:01 | 1272727 nmewn
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;-)

"In a way Obama is standing above the country, above the world. He's sort of God." Evan Thomas

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 16:27 | 1272829 knukles
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Oh yes, the estalishmentorientated editor of Newsweek, a semi bankrupt* official left-of-center organ of the current administration and it's affiliated masters, TPTB.

* Note operative fiscal condition as per readership, credibility, timeliness and intellectual stimulation.  Krugnamesque blather.

"He's sort of God."
Disgusting.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 18:47 | 1273215 trav7777
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you guys do know that jews idolize blacks, right?

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 20:11 | 1273380 nmewn
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Geri curl bitchez?!?!

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 22:00 | 1273585 tmosley
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You sure as hell are fixated on blacks.  What's wrong, your wife leave you for one or something?  Maybe you got passed over for a promotion by a black?

Maybe you can console yourself by repeating to yourself over and over how their IQs are lower than yours.  lol

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 23:25 | 1273707 nmewn
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Geri curled black joos or sumpin.

Definitely a counselor to put on the rolodex should I ever be sued by a Star of David wearing Jamaican...LOL!

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:24 | 1272418 jus_lite_reading
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Yeah... this means to BTFD right now! BEN says so!

This is BTFD - 

http://fiatsfire.blogspot.com/2011/05/fry-day-13th-greatest-show-on-eart...

This is BTFD -

http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/category/economic-crisis

and THIS IS BTFD -

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/dont-buy-a-house-in-2011-bef...

 

EVERYTHING IS BTFD!!! NOW!

 

Ok, I will attempt to take my meds now........

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:24 | 1272420 treemagnet
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Think of the Keynesian possiblities going through Ben Shalom's mind right now....cause it would've been a shame to re-flood that crime infested shithole otherwise referred to New Orleans. 

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:31 | 1272423 SheepDog-One
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Coincidentaly, 'FEMA NLE 2011' a national disaster exercise dealing with a large scale flooding/earthquake disaster up and down the Mississippi River/New Madrid fault line kicks off in a couple weeks.

Remember around early Sept 2001 there was a national disaster drill going on dealing with terrorists attacking buildings with airplanes.

Prepare yourself.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:32 | 1272440 NotApplicable
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Hmmmm... NLE 2011 runs from May 16th - 20th, meanwhile this NYC guy spends his life savings to tell us all that Global Earthquake Day is on the 21st.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/staten_island/the_end_of_the_world_6L...

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:40 | 1272452 TheTmfreak
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I don't think I've ever rolled my eyes so hard before at this man's reasoning. He doesn't know a fuck anything about earthquake science, but then again he is who he is. One can choose faith or science, I choose science. I guess he could be using the term "earthquake" very liberally and therefore I guess he should be more specific, but these people are "surprisingly" not like that, although I'm surprised he has a date. Considering there is only so much energy that can be released from an earthquake (the strength of the crustal rock that it breaks), his argument is absolutely fucking stupid.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:10 | 1272543 red_pill_rash
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Should we worry that the "UN 1976 Weather Weapon Treaty" says nothing forbidding countries to use that technology on their own people?....nah....

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:38 | 1272446 krispkritter
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Was thinking along similar lines when they were getting ready to blow the first first levee with the equivalent of a half million pounds of explosives. The link posted earlier to the earthquake locations(http://www.oe-files.de/gmaps/eqmashup.html), does this show a propensity for an overdue release? I'm always wary when I hear of gov't sponsored 'exercises' just like Britain and Spain, and yes, here in the US.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:25 | 1272425 NotApplicable
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Call me crazy, but shouldn't spillways be opened as early as possible to relieve upstream pressure? Or is there enough local flooding pressure already and there really isn't any room for additional discharge?

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:39 | 1272450 SheepDog-One
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Birds Point levee already blown, flooding a ton of farmland and right on top of the New Madrid fault line as well. 

YouTube - Aerial view of flooding from explosive breach of Birds Point levee

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:50 | 1272496 NotApplicable
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See, I would think that opening a spillway would be a little less destructive, as it diverts water away from the main channel, providing an alternate route to the Gulf. In this case though, they have(had?) to blow another levee further downstream to allow the water back into the river, rendering the exercise moot, except to save the town of Cairo, IL.

 

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:50 | 1272675 Sean7k
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It also released pressure on Metropolis. Paducah was seeing alot of flooding as well. It isn't just the Mississippi, the Ohio converges with it at Cairo. It is further complicated because the Cumberland and Tennessee flow into the Ohio just upstream. While they held back a lot of water in the two lakes (Kentucky and Barkley) this water still has to flow through to power the dams- one which is the main power feed to Washington DC and New York City gets power as well.

We received 17 inces of rain in April and 5 inches in the first few days of May. The flooding has been everywhere. Southern Illinois is still flooded with many roads underwater. 

Thus, the exercise is not moot. They are making choices up and down the Mississippi and Ohio because the amount of water has been too much too fast. These water plans have been around since the 1930's. 

As someone said above, it is problematic when you change the river flow. The lower mississippi has been straightened by the corp of engineers. This causes the river to flow even faster and higher. The only way to safeguard these actions was to create basins to receive flood waters beyond their control.

The people are aware of the problems. You cannot buy property without being told. While farmland will flood- there can be an economic benefit from the soil in the water as it is deposited on the fields. Luckily, it is early enough in the season to put a crop in when it dries out.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 16:22 | 1272811 hedgeless_horseman
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...there can be an economic benefit from the soil in the water as it is deposited on the fields.

Obama will take full credit for depositing the dark rich soil on these farmlands.  Thank goodness for government.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:41 | 1272472 firefighter302
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"..... additional discharge?"  LOL

 

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:29 | 1272429 High Plains Drifter
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well, well. so now we see why they are having a fema exercise near new madrid, mo this month.......just in time it looks like.  well what will be see this time? cops kicking in doors and taking guns and/or tackling old ladies and injuring them, in their own homes.??? stay tuned. .......

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:45 | 1272478 NotApplicable
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They'd better be careful. This is not quite the passive urban population they encountered after Katrina.

"So it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

Or people who come from far away to disarm them.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:00 | 1272526 ShittyLipsMcCra...
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I can safely say that if the Feds actually started any attempt to seize firearms from folks in/around the Bootheel of MO....there would be blood spilled. I would like to think that even the Federal Government isn't that fucking stupid.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:13 | 1272555 Federal Reserf
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Trying to take a gun from a Cajun is about like trying to take a fish away from an alligator. 

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 16:27 | 1272818 hedgeless_horseman
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Trying to take a gun from a Cajun...

You can have my gun when you pry it away from my twelve dead fingers.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:33 | 1272436 Dr. Engali
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Bullish for equities.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:31 | 1272438 Helvidius
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"That sure is a nice refinery you got there.  Be a shame if something happened to it." 

- B.H. Obama

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:57 | 1272488 Jonas Parker
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By the way, would you like to make a small donation to my 2012 campaign fund... $1,000,000 should be about right!

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:37 | 1272442 Franken_Stein
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Shortly after Fukushima had happened, commenter George Washington reported about the nuclear powerplan at Indian Point in upstate New York and I then asked the question, what would happen in case of a flooding since powerplants are always built next to a river for cooling.

 

What would happen if the cooling had to be shut down due to a short circuit ?

Would the emergency diesel generators not only work, but would they run 24/7 for as long as it takes until the water recedes ?

Without breaking ?

Are there enough spare parts readily available to repair them, if they break ?

Were checklists and protocols properly followed ?

Was maintenance work properly carried out ?

 

You know, when things run smoothly over years, people tend to become complacent and lazy and negligent.

 

We will soon find out, I guess.

 

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:46 | 1272481 High Plains Drifter
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the cooling can never be shut down, ever..........

they do the same crap here as they do in fukushima. store spent fuel rods in the top of the reactor containment dome, in large pools of water that are continually circulated. also they store spent fuel rods in specially made flasks, which are stored on the property.....the bastards offer us the same kind of potential problems the japanese are having. now the japanese appear to have had enough of nuclear energy and are getting out of it, so it appears. too little too late perhaps......

http://media.masslive.com/breakingnews/photo/dry-cask-storage-graphicjpg...

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:12 | 1272551 hardcleareye
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It's not just the power supply to the cooling water pumps that you have to be concerned about, but you need to consider the structural integrity of  the intake structure its self (the “suction pipe” in the river, ocean etc). 

In the case of Fukushima the not only were the cooling pumps and the electrical supply compromised but the intake structures were destroyed (the photos of the intake structure were jaw dropping).  The intake structures have series of fine mesh like strainers etc..that are designed to keep fish and other things from getting into your pumps or "pinned to the side of the strainer"...

If your intake structure is destroyed you’re screwed... unless you have redundant "cooling towers" that are designed to carry the cooling load.

 

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 21:29 | 1273516 nmewn
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My thing has always been...why can't power from outside the region be backfed through the lines to provide limited power for the pumps...cooling water is never an issue.

But what do I know? ;-)

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:37 | 1272445 DosZap
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And the HITS just keep coming.................

Can you spell APOCALPYSE boy's n gurl's?.

This keeps up, may not need PM's or FRN's.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:41 | 1272467 SheepDog-One
Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:38 | 1272454 wang
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Is the winds have changed
Clouds roll in from the north
And it started to rain
It rained real hard, and
It rained for a real long time
Six feet of water
In the streets of Evangeline

 

The river rose all day,
The river rose all night
Some people got lost in the flood,
Some people got away alright
The river had busted through
Clear down to Plackermine
Six feet of water
In the streets of Evangeline

 

Louisiana, Louisiana
They're trying to wash us away,
They're trying to wash us away
Oh Louisiana, Louisiana
They're trying to wash us away,
They're trying to wash us away

President Coolidge come down,
In a railroad train
With his little fat man
With a note pad in his hand
President says "little fat man,
Oh isn't it a shame,
What the river has done
To this poor farmer's land"

 

Oh Louisiana, Louisiana
They're trying to wash us away,
You're trying to wash us away
Oh Louisiana, oh Louisiana
They're trying to wash us away,
Oh Lord, they're trying to wash us away
They're trying to wash us away,
They're trying to wash us away

 

 

 

RANDY NEWMAN

 

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:43 | 1272466 nah
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water is back in

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:50 | 1272485 mr. mirbach
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sponges, towels, paper towels and sanitary napkins....duh!

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:49 | 1272490 kevinearick
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Survey says ...

As it turns out Mr. Surveyor / mouser, there is great demand for your services, but not under the old economic model.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:50 | 1272493 Gully Foyle
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I imagine Treme will end before they get to the Obama years.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:51 | 1272498 rubearish10
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Re-post:

Great report but yet another one of those "on the verge" moments perhaps many of us can no longer prepare for.....

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:55 | 1272502 sabra1
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if any danger befell the nuclear plants, am sure the fukushima engineers would be more than happy to help!

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:55 | 1272512 Josh Randall
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Bad gas either way

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:57 | 1272515 Stu
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Ben Bernanke Confronted by WeAreChange

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AcpznV4RGY

 

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:14 | 1272550 Hephasteus
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Well that's contradictory to the rolling stones piece about banksters don't kill people they just lie and commit fraud. Of course they kill people. It's there way of saying we don't care. Just take it.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:23 | 1272590 Plata con Carne
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Interesting how that video shows over 400 'likes', but only has 300 views.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:28 | 1272612 Hephasteus
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magic google math to control the radar.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:02 | 1272531 williambanzai7
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Break out the TEPCO Circus Tents...

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 18:37 | 1273189 cossack55
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Hey, I see some Freak Brothers in there, and the "keep on truckin" dude. far out and groovy.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:08 | 1272538 boiltherich
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Allowing refineries to flood seems like a worse option environmentally than allowing farms and towns to flood, but either is going to be bad for stuff that lives and both will be expensive. How many times per century do we have to have 500 year flooding before they figure out that it is 50 year and not 500? 

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 18:36 | 1273192 cossack55
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Twice.

Sat, 05/14/2011 - 00:15 | 1273766 I Got Worms
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Underrated post.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:14 | 1272547 wang
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flashback Katrina

Senator Landrieu and Anderson Cooper

Hard to believe they voted for her after that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVPlcY4YA-0

 

"first let me thank President Clinton and President Bush and Senator Reid ...

 

"excuse me senator for the last four days I've been seeing dead bodies on the streets here and to listen to politicians thanking each other and complimenting one another... just a few hours ago there was a body here being eaten by rats"

 

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 16:30 | 1272828 -Michelle-
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No, not hard to believe at all.  Just look for the (D) [or the (R)] and pull the lever, minions.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:14 | 1272549 Commander Cody
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I guess the big oil lobby has contributed more than the nuclear lobby so they win.  Its good to be the king.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:15 | 1272553 BellyUp
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The article shows the Alon plant being threatened if the spillway is open yet the list below has it listed under the threatened if closed list. Is this one refinery misplaced or are the list titles flipped?

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:13 | 1272554 treemagnet
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Ben can fix almost anything in 15 minutes.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:19 | 1272564 Federal Reserf
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Which is better, a physical levee or a fiat levee?

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:21 | 1272573 treemagnet
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The fiat levee is super extra absorbent.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:26 | 1272588 Federal Reserf
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and it can be quickly deployed with helicopters.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 16:34 | 1272848 FIAT_FixItAgainTony
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after absorption a fiat levee can then be "wrung out" over fuk-u-me-all to cool the spent fuel rods.

wring, re-deploy fiat levee, and repeat.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:34 | 1272628 JGambolputty
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News flash:  Bernanke has solved the Mississippi flooding problem.  Declared the levees "too big to fail."

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 18:08 | 1273138 jomama
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dump all those printed bennybux in the river.

brilliant!

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:16 | 1272562 monopoly
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And how much of the above information do you think you will find on MSM today. Hmmmm.

Support Zero Hedge if the truth interests you.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:20 | 1272568 Cassandra Syndrome
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But he got Bin Laden. The man walks on water. Leave him alone...

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:21 | 1272571 Muir
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Just another oportunity to load up on silver.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:22 | 1272576 JimBobOMG
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Nuclear plants could be flooded if the river is redirected or not redirected?

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:41 | 1272646 Federal Reserf
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There are two nuke plants in LA and they are near the Miss River and not in the floodzone below the Morganza spillway. Opening the spillway should help keep them dry.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:27 | 1272577 FunkyMonkeyBoy
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Off topic, but for those interested:

We Are Change Confront Bankster Ben Bernanke

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AcpznV4RGY&feature=player_embedded

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:21 | 1272581 digalert
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I remember Bush's Katrina...is Obama golfing today?

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:22 | 1272582 sabra1
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by flooding towns, what better way to dispose of forclosed homes! am sure banks would still mark them at full price!

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:25 | 1272585 MrPike
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See what happens when Mr. Bernanke prints water? People get hurt.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:35 | 1272620 Federal Reserf
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It is hard to imagine that they won't the Morganza with the risk of a breach flooding Baton Rouge and or New Orleans along with several refineries, other petrochem facilities grain elevators and other plants along the river. The death toll would be staggering if the levee suddenly failed.  The option of opening the spillway would flood a more rural area full of Cajuns along with the aforementioned refineries and other industrial facilities. It is the lesser of the two evils.  I certainly wouldn't bet any PM's that the levees will not fail when the water is less than two feet from the crest if the spillway isn't opened to relieve some pressure.

Katrina, BP spill, drilling moratorium, Flood of 2011...my people are being punished!

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 15:37 | 1272625 Catullus
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Here's how this goes: you open the morganza because that's the side of the river with the massive swamp. The east bank is baton rouge and new Orleans. There is no possible explanation to let the non-swamp side flood. None. Flooding lake ponchatrain may actually cause the levees in new Orleans to break again. That's not just the oil interests. That's in the interest in several hundred thousand more people and their property. Let it flood the swamp

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