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Here Come "The Boots On The Ground": EU Approves "Possible" Military Operation For Libya

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While it has been made very clear that no US "boots" would be on the ground in Libya, except for those beloning to CIA operatives of course, no such stigma applies to Europe. Which is why we were not surprised to read the following from RIA Novosti: "The European Council on Friday approved the decision to mount an EU
military operation to support humanitarian efforts in Libya, if asked to
do so by the United Nations.
"The EU will, if requested by the UN Office for the Coordination of
Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA), conduct a military operation in...order to
support humanitarian assistance in the region
," the council statement
read." Of course, humantiarian assistance only works best with silver tipped warheads and laser scopes. And honestly who didn' expect that the goal for Triopli's oil would mean a land invasion any minute? Oil most certainly did, with WTI just closing at a fresh 2.5 year high of $108.

EU approves possible military operation for LibyaLibya

From RIA:

The aim of the operation would be to contribute to the safe movement and evacuation of displaced persons and to support the humanitarian agencies in their activities with specific capabilities," it said.

EUFOR Libya can only be deployed if the council adopts another decision approving the force's terms of engagement, the statement added.

The Libyan political crisis, which evolved into military clashes between opponents and supporters of the country's longtime ruler Muammar Gaddafi, began in mid-February. The conflict has already left thousands of people dead and forced many more to flee the country.

UN Security Council Resolution 1973, adopted on March 17, imposed a no-fly zone over Libya and authorized measures to protect civilians from Gaddafi forces, but stopped short of authorizing ground operations in the North African country.

Net result:

 

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Fri, 04/01/2011 - 14:52 | 1125995 VisualCSharp
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Crocs/flip-flops/sneakers on the ground, bitchez!

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:02 | 1126061 Ahmeexnal
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The hipocrisy of the "protesters" of the Iraq war is sickening to say the least:

 

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/04/01/president-obama-libya-media-su...

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:38 | 1126263 DocLogo
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agreed. Save for Kucinich and Paul, who have both been pretty consistant.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:42 | 1126276 kaiten
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"...if asked to do so by the United Nations..."

So not the same situation as the illegal Iraqi war.

 

 

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:42 | 1126288 Rodent Freikorps
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If the UN is your sovereign, you are fucked.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:54 | 1126337 Calmyourself
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Moron.. Perhaps the blue helmets will do you like the population of African countries..

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 21:33 | 1127167 EvlTheCat
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Calm yourself Calmyourself.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 16:05 | 1126359 sharkbait
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You are so stuck in your idealogue box you can't see the hypocrisy of our TinC, his controllers and all their other minyons.

Without any debate, discussion, consideration of goals or strategies he started a war in Libya.  Without a shred of reasonable national interest (Libya is a small player in oil compared to others).  The atrocities by Moammar against his own people pale in comparison to Hussein's and family's reigh of terror (that is Saddam Hussein, not Barack).

The only question is why?  That will be told as time unfolds.  It is definitely a step in a larger strategy.

Or maybe Barry H. thinks this is just a cool video game to play between games of golf?

 

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 22:51 | 1127274 JR
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Another non-story.  It took all these nations together with no No votes, including support from some Arab nations and five abstentions including Russia and China, to get a no-fly zone over Libya. And immediately they began to have buyers’ remorse over the no-fly zone, including The Arab League.  By getting a couple of planes from super-puppet Qatar, they were able to proceed.

So to get land troops in there is not going to be as easy as it looks.  I notice there’s no mention of NATO.  Since when does the EU have a military force?  Maybe they’re going to drop euros.

As Nigel Farage says: The EU has no legitimacy or consent to take any military action.

Sarkozy probably will step in with the “boots on the ground,” and will make the whole world mad, and it will be a mess. 

There is a possibility that the rebels can make significant advances with spotters on the ground calling in specific air attacks on Gaddafi forces.  Up to now the air attacks have not been coordinated with rebel ground troops.

As to the president of The European Council -.the institution of the European Union (EU) responsible for defining the general political direction and priorities of the Union - why it’s Gaddafi’s old friend Hermann Von Rompuy, who hailed 2009 as “the first year of global governance.

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 10:50 | 1127793 Abitdodgie
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America could go in with every ground troop it has available , and the American people will do NOTHING. The Government does not care about you serfs , keep paying your taxes to fund their wars and shut the fuck up.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:55 | 1126331 macholatte
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Trying to inject logic, reason and the concept that the politicians work for the best interests of the sheeple will only spoil your breakfast. Say one thing, do something else. That's how to succeed in the new world order of duplicity.  

 

By the skillful and sustained use of propaganda, one can make a people see even heaven as hell or an extremely wretched life as paradise.
Adolf Hitler

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 13:52 | 1128105 TBT or not TBT
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Oh con-traire, reason will take you a long way here:   

Europeans are looking after their economic security.   Libyan oil is close by and of high quality.   10% of their supply comes from there.   France is shameless about use of force and bribery in manipulating things in Africa, and north Africa in particular.   Ditto for Italy, though principally via business and not force(anymore).    On top of the oil supply issues, the Europeans don't want to see even more immigration pressure coming from these regions.

Obama got snowed seven ways to sunday by the europeans on this issue, and the Europeans, including Sarkozy in particular, got snowed by a certain "philosopher" Bernard Henri Levi, with the sympathy toward the plucky underdog in this fight.     They are in fact all assholes in this fight, in this strongly tribalized country.   Plenty of foreign islamo nutters are joining them. 

This is who we are "helping" with our far superior air capabilities over there:   Self centered europeans who lacked the muscle to pull this off well themselves, and sundry assholes for allah and/or tribally-driven power mad haters on the ground.    

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 18:18 | 1126764 RichardP
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... he started a war in Libya.

Good grief!!  Do you guys really believe that down is up and black is white?  Establishing a no-fly zone over already-established hostilities and starting a war are two different activities.  But then, you know that already, don't you.  It's just that you find the misuse of words to be helpful in demonizing your opponents, right?

Without a shred of reasonable national interest ...

I think it is in our interest to encourage european countries to become actively involved in solving the problems in their own neighborhood - instead of expecting the U.S. always to be the one to do it.  I think that is at least partially what this exercise by the U.S. has been about.  I'm guessing that this project would have been dead before it started if the U.S. had declined to participate.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 20:51 | 1127106 robobbob
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"this project would have been dead before it started if the U.S. had declined to participate."

exactly the point of why we shouldn't have been involved

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 23:08 | 1127291 RichardP
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If the goal is to get European countries to police their own neighborhoods, yes, we should have been involved in the limited way we were.  Otherwise, nobody does anything, and we get sucked into something much larger later.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 23:50 | 1127355 TBT or not TBT
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"Limited" way were involved?   You call that "limited".     Let's try moral support only next time, see if that works.

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 10:58 | 1127803 Abitdodgie
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If a revolution started hear in America i don't think Libya would enforce a no fly zone for us, anyway the bankers have got what they wanted a new central bank (at interest)now all they need to do is kill Gaddafi." I care not who makes the laws as long as i get to issue the money"

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 15:13 | 1128254 sun tzu
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Since when is a civil war in Libya any of Europe's business? How are the Danes or Swedes affected? 

Why is it in our interest or responsibilities to get Europe to act? Because you think so? Are they little children that must be cajoled into action?

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 15:18 | 1128260 Rodent Freikorps
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They are weak and must rely on the US to backstop them.

If they tried to go it alone, the proles might discover how weak they are.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 18:28 | 1126811 LMAOLORI
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It sure is and why aren't the protesters talking about War for Oil now?  Or Blood on Obama's hands?

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 19:37 | 1126974 Bendromeda Strain
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The hipocrisy of the "protesters" of the Iraq war is sickening to say the least:

When the NOW girls condoned intern bjs, the message was clear. The left is incapable of hypocrisy by dint of them being the arbiters, the definers of it.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:11 | 1126089 Cash_is_Trash
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Cry havoc and let slip the crocs of war

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 17:15 | 1126624 Long-John-Silver
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LOL! +1

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 13:57 | 1128123 TBT or not TBT
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The Roman armies wore sandals didn't they?    

The Europeans' boots BTW, are referred to as "booties", as in "booties on the ground".    The French and their mercenaries love a good double-entendre you see, booty on the ground, booties.   And "boots" is so butch.   They are too post-modern for that.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:14 | 1126111 WALLST8MY8BALL
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Have you ever seen the sun
(Have you ever seen the sun, have you ever seen the sun)
Rising high to the sound of a gun?
Blue and white and yellow sun
(Blue and white and yellow sun, blue and white and yellow sun)
Capturing imagination
We went down to the piccolo drum
Never made it into the hum
Down to the piccolo
Down to the piccolo
Down to the piccolo snare
Have you ever seen the sea
(Have you ever seen the sea)
Painted red by a bleeding army?
Sky hawks gather for a feast
(Sky hawks gather for a feast)
Of pawns who will never find peace
Tumbledown to the piccolo snare
Never made it into the square
Down to the piccolo
Down to the piccolo
No one particular cared

Dreaming, dreaming, dreaming, dreaming
Now! We can go home again
To our old haunts again
Together
Now scatter us all around
Far from the bugle sound
Surrender
Safe in the exclusion zone
Catch me and take me home
As brother fights brother
Wrapped up in tarnished flags
Banners and body bags
Surrender!
(Surrender!)
Dreaming, dreaming, dreaming, dreaming
Dreaming, dreaming, dreaming, dreaming
Dreaming, dreaming, dreaming, dreaming

http://www.superfurry.org/info.php?q=piccolosnare&t=lyrics

 

 

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 20:18 | 1127051 Millivanilli
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Team America, fuck yeah!  Killin for freedom, god damnit. 

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 14:51 | 1125996 Homey Da Clown
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I'm still not giving back my Nobel Peace Prize.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:28 | 1126182 long juan silver
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Gadaffi needs women

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:32 | 1126206 long juan silver
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Berlesconi needs women!!

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:30 | 1126209 long juan silver
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This means WAR!!!

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 23:48 | 1127348 EvlTheCat
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No, Gadaffi needs nurses!!

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:31 | 1126201 willien1derland
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Don't give back the cash either HdC - you can give it to a charity for all those Libyan orphans we are about to create - God save us from ourselves

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 10:59 | 1127808 Abitdodgie
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There will not be any orphans we kill everyone.

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 14:03 | 1128124 TBT or not TBT
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We are paying too much for precision weaponry, JAG officers, and rules of engagement training then.   Extermination could be done cheaply, as the Rwandans demonstrated some few years ago.   Don't even need to spend on bullets.      So, I'm gonna say your rhetoric is way way over the top, and add that most orphans created will have been created by their stupid fathers, who chose to man anti-aircraft batteries, command and control centers, or tank columns, when the rational thing for them to do would be to go home.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 14:59 | 1126001 The Count
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Does anybody here know that Gaddafi helped save the big Italian bank Unicredit and with it Bank Austria (and maybe others?). How convenient if Gadaffi is out of the picture because then the billions he put in will simply be confiscated forever....

The only thing worse than being an enemy of the west is being its 'friend'. Just ask Hosni!

The powers that be always used war as a way to maximize their profits and take attention off the dealings. And here we are again. Lucky we have Al-Qaida or the puppet masters would have to invent some other foe.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:21 | 1126140 SilverBaron
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I keep picturing Gadaffi as that poor bastard on Training Day that had the money buried under his kitchen floor.  The new recruit said something about why are you doing this to your friend.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 16:55 | 1126565 Ralphie
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"Why is he my friend, because he knows my first name? Roger sold dope to kids. The world is a better place without him. This man was the biggest major violator in Los Angeles. This is the game. I'm playing his ass. That's my job. That's your job. I watched that cocksucker operate with impunity for over 10 years, and now I got him. The shit's chess, it ain't checkers. What, we all of a sudden gonna roll up in a black-and-white? Come on, man, take the money."

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 18:49 | 1126877 SilverBaron
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Yup, that's the part.  Good flick.

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 14:05 | 1128142 TBT or not TBT
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In the Libya case, Sarkozy would be Roger, and Obama would be the rookie I guess.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 14:55 | 1126004 Josh Randall
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They are going to set up a ring around their new Al Qaeda Oil Inc. operation they control now and not let Red Rover come over

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 23:05 | 1127288 palmereldritch
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Al Qaoileda

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 14:55 | 1126005 truont
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Obama was asked in an interview with the Spanish-language network Univision if a land invasion would be out of the question in the event air strikes fail to dislodge Gadhafi from power. Obama replied that it was "absolutely" out of the question.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110323/ap_on_re_us/us_us_libya_32

 

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 14:56 | 1126028 Infinite QE
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Anyone who still believes in Obama deserves the arse fecking they are in for.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 14:59 | 1126040 youngandhealthy
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We are talking Europe here....!! What US says in this matter means zilt..

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:09 | 1126084 Josh Randall
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LOL - thats a good one..

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:15 | 1126117 Rodent Freikorps
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Obama promises come with an expiration date of about one hour.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:32 | 1126210 Dr. Richard Head
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He has been taking notes on expiration dates of currency market interventions by central banks.  Fuckey see, fuckey do.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 16:40 | 1126515 Mesquite
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! ! !

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:30 | 1126198 SilverBaron
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Then he called the EU and said don't worry about that, it was just campaign rhetoric.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 17:16 | 1126635 NotApplicable
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Nah, it wasn't rhetoric. He was completely honest when he said he wouldn't invade. Something about his allergies to the DU in the sand.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:35 | 1126235 willien1derland
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It is very disappointing & extremely frustrating - I know someone on the ZH boards can assist me here - HOW CAN OBAMA COMMIT TROOPS TO LIBYA WITHOUT CONGRESSIONAL/SENATE APPROVAL?

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 16:56 | 1126575 Ralphie
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Simple--he doesn't give a flying fuck for the Constitution.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 17:17 | 1126638 NotApplicable
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Because they are all either criminals on the take, or safely black-mailed.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 17:30 | 1126663 Rodent Freikorps
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He, and his czars, have been breaking the law since day one. Why would this slow them down?

If it rules like a dictator, and gets away with it, it is a dictatorship.

Welcome to the empire.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 18:31 | 1126822 RichardP
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Presidents (plural) commit troops all over the world.  They are the commander in chief.  It is only if they wish to declare war on another country that they must petition Congress - for only Congress has the power to declare war.  That is a distinction that is lost on most people.  The Constitution does not prohibit the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces (the President) from commiting troops around the world.  It only prohibits the Commander in Chief from declaring war.

What have you read or heard that a.) the U.S. is sending troops to Libya, and b.) any country's troops are going to Lybia for anything other than humanitarian reasons?

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 21:25 | 1127161 sun tzu
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a) those cruise missiles did get to Libya by themselves

b) if you think this is for humanitarian reasons you are a real sucker. what about Sudan and Zimbabwe? I'm still waiting for those humanitarian missions

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 23:13 | 1127294 RichardP
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The point was putting boots on the ground.  You did not address my questions.  Boots on the ground have nothing to do with cruise missles - unless I missed a joke about boots carrying the missles there.  And other countries have said maybe boots on the ground for humanitarian reasons.  The point is not about what I think.  It is about what they said.

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 00:25 | 1127404 trav7777
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launching missiles is an act of war

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 05:12 | 1127596 baby_BLYTHE
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+++

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 14:03 | 1128138 Hicham
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except that's not the way the U.S. plays...

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 18:47 | 1126865 Antarctico
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HOW CAN OBAMA COMMIT TROOPS TO LIBYA WITHOUT CONGRESSIONAL/SENATE APPROVAL?

Because we are still operating under the state of national emergency declared by W. right after 9/11 and which was renewed by President Obama in September 2010. Under that state of national emergency we are being ruled under a classified Continuity of Government plan that, as far as anyone knows because it is so classified even congress was not permitted to read it, allows the President to do pretty much anything he wants such as suspend Habeas Corpus and start wars without congressional approval. Also, as if one state of national emergency was not enough, Obama declared a new one because of the situation in Libya, so I guess this means the Constitution is doubly fucked.

Or, the short answer is that the Constitution is just a piece of paper and that a stage full of lip-syncing trannies has collectively more balls than all of congress put together.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:35 | 1126251 Joe Davola
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Just remember - it's not a lie if no one believes it.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:46 | 1126303 Cash_is_Trash
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'Tis a quick lie, sir

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 16:32 | 1126475 knukles
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Act V Scene 1  Hamlet. 

Sweet

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 14:55 | 1126010 Ajaxromeo
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Project for the New American Century

First they came for the Arabs

 

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0910-15.htm

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 14:54 | 1126018 nah
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so this means war has a price point... rite and sometimes maybe it just seems more reasonable

.

like when the EU goes to war... its been awhile

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 14:56 | 1126024 Internet Tough Guy
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Which euro nations would send in troops? Sounds like an April fools joke.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:48 | 1126304 everycentometal
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the u.s. is the u.n., obama did not lie, no u.s. boots will be on the ground,

the boots will be u.n. issued and the helmets powder blue.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:59 | 1126352 Rodent Freikorps
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Hopefully, the Blue Helmet heads will keep the bribes and child rape lower than usual.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 14:58 | 1126026 slaughterer
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Tyler, you mean Merkel and Sarko are not going to let Ga-Dafi spend the weekend with his Ukrainian nurses?

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:18 | 1126128 jesusonline
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Germany didn't take any part in the bombing action, Merkel be watching Sarko bounty hunting himself a loss at the next elections. This doesn't look like iz over even after Khaddafi's death, this is gonna be tribe wars with the EU and CIA. I mean Carthago delenda est, man, give me the shit you are smoking Sarko.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 14:58 | 1126031 alien-IQ
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here comes another endless fucking war. just PERFECT!!!!

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:36 | 1126244 carbonmutant
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"The aim of the operation would be to contribute to the safe movement and evacuation of displaced persons and to support the humanitarian agencies..."

Premium quality spin.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 17:04 | 1126594 j0nx
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They are only doing it because we are allowing them to. If 10000000 Americans showed up on Const. Ave holding pitchforks and lanterns then I guarandamntee you that they would start listening. Right now we are afraid of the government and are standing by looking on in disbelief and bitching in the shadows. When that changes - if that changes, then oh nelly look out. I liken the American public to a battered wife who is still submitting to the abuse of her piece of shit husband. Sooner or later if the abuse continues on and on then she snaps and cuts his dick off when he is asleep.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 17:19 | 1126641 NotApplicable
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They would corral off the city long before 10,000,000 people got anywhere close to the place.

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 14:06 | 1128140 Hicham
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Come on...barely 10 000 000 vote for American Idol from their couches. They won't be persuaded to get their asses of their coaches to march.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 17:07 | 1126601 j0nx
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Duplicate due to server FAIL

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 14:58 | 1126033 bugs_
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Give the inspectors more time! Why rush to war???

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:04 | 1126065 Internet Tough Guy
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Brent at 120, Europe hits the panic button.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:15 | 1126113 Cash_is_Trash
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Hot damn! This is über BULLISH

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:42 | 1126285 willien1derland
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Libya represents 2% of the world's oil production - check

The US is DROWNING in WTI CRUDE in Cushing, Oklahoma -

However, the Federal Reserve's Operation CREATE WALLPAPER has lead to the largest speculative long position in WTI Crude EVER (CFTC CoT) 3x larger than July 2008 when WTI was @ 145/barrel - so by proxy Sarkozy & Obama have indirectly declared economic war on the people of EU & US - damn unintended consequences - OR perhaps this is a special version of POMO for Wall Street - Ben Bernacke & Tim Geithner are criminals 

 

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 17:23 | 1126653 NotApplicable
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So, is SemGroup trading paper oil again? The new CEO promised not to, but I couldn't see if he had his fingers crossed.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:29 | 1126200 Wynn
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No way dude. Our best sources say Libya has been secretly importing massive amounts of Niger yellowcake.

Hillary should have a slide show any day now.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 17:28 | 1126658 NotApplicable
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Given that France is the head of the international group that controls Niger's yellowcake, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Sarko has set him up the bomb.

Maybe this time they can forge better docs.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 14:59 | 1126035 John McCloy
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This is all being done to "stimulate" their EU economy. 

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 14:57 | 1126037 Quinvarius
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It is called colonialism

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:04 | 1126068 knukles
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And try Crusading Christians as per the natives POV.  Good news for international relations and oil prices. 
Peace through massive random application of superior firepower.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:11 | 1126094 Broker NotBroke
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anyone who's played starcraft knows if you don't expand, you lose...They also know that you have to be efficient in your application of force.

 

How much do these missles / troops take to employ? Oh yeah, it's Bernankebucks...carry on...

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:25 | 1126159 SilverRhino
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Too bad Obama treats his troops like zerglings (completely expendable) instead of Terrans.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:26 | 1126169 VisualCSharp
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Yep, it's a mineral patch with infinite supply and 0 harvest time. Plus it can accomodate an infinite number of SCVs at the same time!

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:05 | 1126073 knukles
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Come to think of it, all we're missing is the plea for a New World Order....

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:12 | 1126088 Yardfarmer
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The New Colonialism:Washington's Pursuit of World Hegemony-Paul Craig Roberts

http://www.infowars.com/the-new-colonialism-washingtons-pursuit-of-world...

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:00 | 1126044 Pants McPants
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This makes me wonder what kind of word magic will be used to justify US troops in the area, if needed.

Not that Europe can't "handle" this situation with the pledged forces, but you have to wonder how long the US war machine can sit on the sidelines while a different group of oil mercenaries descends on Libya.

I suppose the above is mooted when you consider the US military/banking/pharma industrial complex sells to both sides anyway.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:05 | 1126070 goldenrod
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Libya has weapons of mass destruction. Gaddafy has tons of anthrax and botulism and a large number of drones which he can use to spray US and European cities.  At least that is what Dick Cheney told me.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:08 | 1126080 Broker NotBroke
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our missles are gettin' close to expiration. We gotta use em up before they go bad...like eggs.

 

Happy Easter!

Dye from above...

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:54 | 1126332 everycentometal
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no word magic needed, as i stated previously "

the u.s. is the u.n., obama did not lie, no u.s. boots will be on the ground,

the boots will be u.n. issued and the helmets powder blue." (sorry to repeat myself/wont happen again).

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 16:21 | 1126426 Urban Redneck
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EUFOR is a joke, and perhaps a ploy to facilitate a negotiated settlement.  If Sarko’s goal is winning, all he needs to do is call in the Corsicans from Total management and their security team.  Necessary ground will be taken, oil brought back on line much faster, and the golden rule implemented for the black gold.   

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 17:15 | 1126631 j0nx
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I hope he tries it. I can't wait for his base to have kittens when their messiah leads them into yet another land war in the ME. By this time next year the cries for Hillary to challenge him for the democratic nomination will be so loud that they will drown every other sound out in the country. I predict right here and right now that not only will Barry NOT win the election next year but he won't even get the dem nomination because he will have so alienated his base by then. The libs will be screaming for Hillary to save them by end of this year.

Barrack approval ratings all time lows and dropping like a rock - Check

Massive inflation in commodities and stagnant wages - Check

Ridiculous UE regardless of what the doctored stats claim - Check

Barry completely and totally alienating his base by acting like GW on roids - Check

Hillary stepping down from SecState EOY - Check

Hillary approval ratings at all time highs - Check

I don't know about you but I can easily see the writing on the wall as to how all of this will play out for Barry's 2nd term, or lack thereof.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:03 | 1126050 plocequ1
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This is bullish for Buster Browns and Timberland

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:13 | 1126103 Josh Randall
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+1 -- Operation Thom McAn has begun with new Keds...errr...boots on the ground 

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:05 | 1126051 Cdad
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"Computer...which cosmic force will drive more middle class Americans into poverty first:  the Bernank's printing press complete with its currency destruction KG 60 modulator, or OPEC? Report.

If the second, how expensive will deflated edible Ipads get?"

 

 

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:02 | 1126054 whatz that smell
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launch the bernank! the black helicopters and the benjamins will win the war!

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:21 | 1126143 grunk
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Didn't he already do that for the Central Bank of Libya?

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:30 | 1126199 long juan silver
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Central bank and trust of Libya borrowed $1.2 billion at the FRB discount window in 2009. Info was released today under the FOIA and over Bernake's apparently undead body.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:02 | 1126056 gwar5
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Boots on the ground, this time to help the Muslim Brotherhood.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:00 | 1126058 SDRII
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the french are already fighting - not a joke -  in ivory coast so its just a convoy away

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:05 | 1126069 Broker NotBroke
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diplomacy reference?

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:21 | 1126146 earnyermoney
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http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2011/03/201133141618292780.html

Reference to French troops being deployed in the country.

 

 

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:03 | 1126059 knukles
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LOL

EU "boots on the ground".  Oxymoronic unless setting up tents for restaurants, beach shelters.....
The first Troopie gets a blister, the whole force'll run about in circles waving thier hands above theirhead, crying foul if not demanding a surrender to France in order to enhance Sarko's pols, take it to the UN.....
And just who, may we ask, will Really be in charge?  What committee of failed politicians? 

Come on.  The Germans already exited the air campaign as there was no effective leadership structure (as per them) and the Dutch Parliament already went bullshit when the Defense Minister said that their soldiers might take casualties.

Apologies to my European brethern, but as a long time Yank abroad in Europe, it ain't like there's no experience factor. 

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:05 | 1126074 youngandhealthy
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Good that you are not on the old continet any longer...hubris is not needed

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:11 | 1126097 knukles
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LOL

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:11 | 1126104 Ahmeexnal
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When the top commander of the german whermacht was found to be a plagiarist, you can only but wonder as to the competence down the chain of command.   Another evidence Europe is toast.

Sarkozy and Merkel are arrogantly summoning their troops.

"ASSEMBLE THE ARMIES!!" can be heard throughout Europe.

Little do they know they are marching towards their very own Horns of Hattin.

 

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:49 | 1126309 kaiten
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"When the top commander of the german whermacht was found to be a plagiarist..."

You mean the Minister of Defence, right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl-Theodor_zu_Guttenberg

"... german whermacht..."

Wehrmacht ceased to exist in 1945.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wehrmacht

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundeswehr

 

But who cares about the facts these days ....... surely not you.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 16:43 | 1126526 Ahmeexnal
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Yes, I was refering to that idiot.

The name might have changed, but it's the same wolf underneath.

And, if you want to know more about Mr. Guttenberg, here's what the link you provided has to offer. These...ARE THE FACTS:

 

Guttenberg is a member of the House of Guttenberg, known since 1158 and conferred the title of Baron by the Holy Roman Emperor in 1700.[29] Since the adoption of Germany's 1919 Weimar Constitution, which abolished the nobility's privileges, "noble titles form part of the name only".[30] By courtesy and tradition, Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg is addressed as a Baron socially in his hometown of Guttenberg, Bavaria,[31][32] and occasionally is referred to as such by German and international media.

In February 2000, Guttenberg married Stephanie Gräfin von Bismarck-Schönhausen (born 1976),[1] a great-great-granddaughter of the first Chancellor of Germany Otto von Bismarck.

 

It seems old imperial pipedreams never die, do they?

Same old chest-thumping Germany. Same old wehrmacht. Same old power-elites.

 

 

 

 

 

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 16:52 | 1126560 Rodent Freikorps
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Not the same old. Germany, alone, could not defeat Lybia.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 18:21 | 1126792 kaiten
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You mean something like afghan-war, where US cannot defeat few thousand goat herders with their home-made weapons? Well, at least Somali warlords got what they deserved. Oh, wait ...

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 18:32 | 1126828 Rodent Freikorps
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Not "cannot" but "will not."

There is a difference.

As you well know.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 18:42 | 1126855 kaiten
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Will not, because cannot.

Fixed that for you.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 18:58 | 1126860 Rodent Freikorps
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Whatever gets you through the day.

The military knows who betrayed the mission.

They are unlikely to forget.

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 05:19 | 1127598 kaiten
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If we cannot succeed, let´s find an excuse. Sigh, the end is nigh ....

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 11:20 | 1127833 Rodent Freikorps
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We win every war quite easily.

We then lose the peace.

If nation building becomes the mission, then yeah, we are gonna lose every time.

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 12:03 | 1127887 kaiten
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"We win every war quite easily."

Where do you live, on the Moon? Afghan started in 2001 and there´s no end in sight. Ever heard of korean or vietnam wars? Where are those easy victories? I mean, where are THE victories?

 

OK, Im off this pointless discussion, you are way too much detached from reality to my taste. Keep on dreaming, but without my assistance.

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 14:49 | 1127890 Rodent Freikorps
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We won the Tet Offensive, and were then betrayed by the liberals.

Korea was multi-national and at worst, a tie.

What other use of force has even slowed us down?

We defeat ourselves with PC ROE.

Only the US can defeat the US. And we will.

Quitter. Is all you have the typical Euro arrogance and propaganda?

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 20:18 | 1128830 Hephasteus
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He's got selective memory. He wants his ideologies and methodologies to be right. He'll disreguard any information that is contrary to his ideologies and methodolgies. Because he's a crazy fucking psychopath.

This is how crazy fucking psychopath's operate. Case in point. Baby Bush. The iraq war will cost 8 billion dollars and be over in a month. He knew it would cost more than 8 billion dollars and knew it would take more than a month. But what he didn't know is that no matter what happens. Any semblence of a victory there will be erased.  And it will probably come a day when he will be tried in effigy or real life and like his worthless fucking daddy have his name plastered all over wanted posters for crimes committed. Which was the reason why he started the war in the first place. To protect his daddy.

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 02:17 | 1127512 AnAnonymous
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Not "cannot" but "will not."

There is a difference.

As you well know.

 

With the US, considering their streak of actions, they seldom restrain from achieving what they can. The US not doing something is most of the times the US not being able to do.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 18:10 | 1126761 kaiten
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Still living in the past? You clearly have no idea about modern Germany/Europe.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 20:06 | 1127034 Rodent Freikorps
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Modern Germany is a pacifist nanny state without the strength to protect its own borders from Russia.

Did I miss anything?

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 05:34 | 1127597 kaiten
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I dont know about Russians preparing to invade Germany, I do know about mexicans conquering America through unprotected borders, though.

So, to answer your question. Yes, you´re missing quite a lot. In a word: reality.

 

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 07:36 | 1127638 Rodent Freikorps
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Oh, no doubt.

At least our immigrants don't bring sharia with them.

I think we get the best of that comparison.

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 09:49 | 1127711 kaiten
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Cool, if you are happy with the situation, I have no problem.

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 10:00 | 1127723 Rodent Freikorps
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Even if I rant and rave alot, I do realize - at the end of the day - that you really can't stop the tide from coming in.

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 10:26 | 1127750 kaiten
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Punish the employers and the tide will stop.

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 17:59 | 1128505 Ahmeexnal
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I dont know about Russians preparing to invade Germany, I do know about mexicans conquering America through unprotected borders, though.

 

Thanks for pointing out that "modern Germany" is the same "old Germany".

I suggest you man up, grow some balls, and deal once and for all with your inferiority complex (which externalizes in the sick form of uber alles kind of racism) which has cost the planet 2 world wars and a third one in progress as we speak.

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 19:10 | 1128721 kaiten
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Oh, how I love this tough internet talk. Makes YOUR inferiority feel smaller, doesnt it.

When I become german, we may talk about german history, so far it doesnt concern me.

And finally, I suggest you to grow some brain to be able to read properly what you react on, but common sense and narrow-mindedness doesnt fit together too much, so it wont be that easy,I´d say.

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 20:48 | 1128889 Ahmeexnal
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When I become german, we may talk about german history, so far it doesnt concern me.

 

So your greatest aspiration in life is to become "german".  You make me sick.

It was YOU who got concerned about german history when you pointed out the wehrmacht had changed it's name. It was YOU again who got concerned about german history and how "modern Germany" was different.

And now you run away with your tail between your legs and cowardly claim it doesn't concern you?

If the rest of the troops are like you, then I can clearly see a victorious german wehrmacht in modern Libya....NOT.

 

 

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 07:13 | 1129497 kaiten
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Eh, what a drivel. Im not really in a mood to answer, but all right.

You simply make ridiculuos conclusions. You said something incorrect about Germany, I corrected you, your conclusion: Im german. Wow.

The folk mentioned that Germany, according to him, is unable to protect its borders, I replied: look at you open borders before mentoring others. Your conclusion: Im racist. Wow. where did I say something, negative or positive, about mexicans? I said mexicans because it´s they who slip through the borders. Should it be chinese, arabs, french, russians, germans...., I´d use those nationalities.

You simply see things that doesnt exist, you fabricate things based on your prejudices and phobias and your utter lack of knowledge.

For example. You keep talking about wehrmacht. What century you live in? No wehrmacht didnt just change its name. Wehrmacht was disbanded in 1945 and the new german army - bundeswehr - was founded in 1955.

Look, I admit, english is not my mother tongue and I may have used some words inproperly(perhaps in a sentense you quoted - Im not going to and dont wish become german. Far from that.), but you just keep twisting anything I say.

So, im not going to continue in this discussion, but I´ll be following your comments in other discussion with great pleasure.

Yeah, and your further tough talking just proves my point. Who do you try to impress? You are funny.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:41 | 1126286 kaiten
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Is experience good on prejudices?

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 16:35 | 1126490 knukles
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No.  Has an oft significant influence or bearing.  Not an "on".

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 10:29 | 1127745 Killing Time
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the British and French air force seems pretty bullish about all this

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:11 | 1126078 CitizenPete
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U like Dashsa, Baby!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIRPcICB-iY

The country needs some un-Constitutional conscription to stimulate the economy and get the death/birth rate in check.  

"And it's one, two, threee what are we fighting for? .... Don't ask me I don't give a damn, next stop might be Iran..." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Soy3PHV3RiM

 

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 18:42 | 1126856 RichardP
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Nice.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:06 | 1126081 Arch Duke Ferdinand
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OT: April 1st...When Everything goes wrong...."Wrong Side Up"...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0Uju3tYS2s&feature=feedlik

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:09 | 1126085 sabra1
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i'm going long suicide, terrorist bombings!

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:26 | 1126167 Dr. Richard Head
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THEY HATE US BECAUSE OF OUR FREEDOM!!!!!!

Freedom to give up civil and financial freedom I guess. 

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:40 | 1126277 knukles
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Got the first part right.
Well done, Brownie!  (Was Bush thinking of us undies when he said that?)

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:08 | 1126087 rubearish10
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Well, whenever this thing turns and with what everything that has been written describing what could happen,,,,,,,,,it'll be beyond anyone's recognition. IT IS THE S&P 500 at 500! Can't wait.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:10 | 1126093 digalert
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the Donald Trump:

President Obama is a war monger who 'kisses everybody's ass'
Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:12 | 1126101 NotApplicable
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Meanwhile the Donald would likely be a warmonger who demands everybody kiss his ass.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:40 | 1126275 web bot
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1+

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 16:23 | 1126448 SilverFiend
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At least the Donald has the balls to tell it like it is.

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