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Here Come "The Boots On The Ground": EU Approves "Possible" Military Operation For Libya

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Fri, 04/01/2011 - 14:52 | 1125995 VisualCSharp
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Crocs/flip-flops/sneakers on the ground, bitchez!

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:02 | 1126061 Ahmeexnal
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The hipocrisy of the "protesters" of the Iraq war is sickening to say the least:

 

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/04/01/president-obama-libya-media-su...

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:38 | 1126263 DocLogo
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agreed. Save for Kucinich and Paul, who have both been pretty consistant.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:42 | 1126276 kaiten
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"...if asked to do so by the United Nations..."

So not the same situation as the illegal Iraqi war.

 

 

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:42 | 1126288 Rodent Freikorps
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If the UN is your sovereign, you are fucked.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:54 | 1126337 Calmyourself
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Moron.. Perhaps the blue helmets will do you like the population of African countries..

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 21:33 | 1127167 EvlTheCat
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Calm yourself Calmyourself.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 16:05 | 1126359 sharkbait
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You are so stuck in your idealogue box you can't see the hypocrisy of our TinC, his controllers and all their other minyons.

Without any debate, discussion, consideration of goals or strategies he started a war in Libya.  Without a shred of reasonable national interest (Libya is a small player in oil compared to others).  The atrocities by Moammar against his own people pale in comparison to Hussein's and family's reigh of terror (that is Saddam Hussein, not Barack).

The only question is why?  That will be told as time unfolds.  It is definitely a step in a larger strategy.

Or maybe Barry H. thinks this is just a cool video game to play between games of golf?

 

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 22:51 | 1127274 JR
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Another non-story.  It took all these nations together with no No votes, including support from some Arab nations and five abstentions including Russia and China, to get a no-fly zone over Libya. And immediately they began to have buyers’ remorse over the no-fly zone, including The Arab League.  By getting a couple of planes from super-puppet Qatar, they were able to proceed.

So to get land troops in there is not going to be as easy as it looks.  I notice there’s no mention of NATO.  Since when does the EU have a military force?  Maybe they’re going to drop euros.

As Nigel Farage says: The EU has no legitimacy or consent to take any military action.

Sarkozy probably will step in with the “boots on the ground,” and will make the whole world mad, and it will be a mess. 

There is a possibility that the rebels can make significant advances with spotters on the ground calling in specific air attacks on Gaddafi forces.  Up to now the air attacks have not been coordinated with rebel ground troops.

As to the president of The European Council -.the institution of the European Union (EU) responsible for defining the general political direction and priorities of the Union - why it’s Gaddafi’s old friend Hermann Von Rompuy, who hailed 2009 as “the first year of global governance.

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 10:50 | 1127793 Abitdodgie
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America could go in with every ground troop it has available , and the American people will do NOTHING. The Government does not care about you serfs , keep paying your taxes to fund their wars and shut the fuck up.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:55 | 1126331 macholatte
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Trying to inject logic, reason and the concept that the politicians work for the best interests of the sheeple will only spoil your breakfast. Say one thing, do something else. That's how to succeed in the new world order of duplicity.  

 

By the skillful and sustained use of propaganda, one can make a people see even heaven as hell or an extremely wretched life as paradise.
Adolf Hitler

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 13:52 | 1128105 TBT or not TBT
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Oh con-traire, reason will take you a long way here:   

Europeans are looking after their economic security.   Libyan oil is close by and of high quality.   10% of their supply comes from there.   France is shameless about use of force and bribery in manipulating things in Africa, and north Africa in particular.   Ditto for Italy, though principally via business and not force(anymore).    On top of the oil supply issues, the Europeans don't want to see even more immigration pressure coming from these regions.

Obama got snowed seven ways to sunday by the europeans on this issue, and the Europeans, including Sarkozy in particular, got snowed by a certain "philosopher" Bernard Henri Levi, with the sympathy toward the plucky underdog in this fight.     They are in fact all assholes in this fight, in this strongly tribalized country.   Plenty of foreign islamo nutters are joining them. 

This is who we are "helping" with our far superior air capabilities over there:   Self centered europeans who lacked the muscle to pull this off well themselves, and sundry assholes for allah and/or tribally-driven power mad haters on the ground.    

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 18:18 | 1126764 RichardP
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... he started a war in Libya.

Good grief!!  Do you guys really believe that down is up and black is white?  Establishing a no-fly zone over already-established hostilities and starting a war are two different activities.  But then, you know that already, don't you.  It's just that you find the misuse of words to be helpful in demonizing your opponents, right?

Without a shred of reasonable national interest ...

I think it is in our interest to encourage european countries to become actively involved in solving the problems in their own neighborhood - instead of expecting the U.S. always to be the one to do it.  I think that is at least partially what this exercise by the U.S. has been about.  I'm guessing that this project would have been dead before it started if the U.S. had declined to participate.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 20:51 | 1127106 robobbob
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"this project would have been dead before it started if the U.S. had declined to participate."

exactly the point of why we shouldn't have been involved

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 23:08 | 1127291 RichardP
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If the goal is to get European countries to police their own neighborhoods, yes, we should have been involved in the limited way we were.  Otherwise, nobody does anything, and we get sucked into something much larger later.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 23:50 | 1127355 TBT or not TBT
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"Limited" way were involved?   You call that "limited".     Let's try moral support only next time, see if that works.

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 10:58 | 1127803 Abitdodgie
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If a revolution started hear in America i don't think Libya would enforce a no fly zone for us, anyway the bankers have got what they wanted a new central bank (at interest)now all they need to do is kill Gaddafi." I care not who makes the laws as long as i get to issue the money"

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 15:13 | 1128254 sun tzu
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Since when is a civil war in Libya any of Europe's business? How are the Danes or Swedes affected? 

Why is it in our interest or responsibilities to get Europe to act? Because you think so? Are they little children that must be cajoled into action?

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 15:18 | 1128260 Rodent Freikorps
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They are weak and must rely on the US to backstop them.

If they tried to go it alone, the proles might discover how weak they are.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 18:28 | 1126811 LMAOLORI
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It sure is and why aren't the protesters talking about War for Oil now?  Or Blood on Obama's hands?

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 19:37 | 1126974 Bendromeda Strain
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The hipocrisy of the "protesters" of the Iraq war is sickening to say the least:

When the NOW girls condoned intern bjs, the message was clear. The left is incapable of hypocrisy by dint of them being the arbiters, the definers of it.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:11 | 1126089 Cash_is_Trash
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Cry havoc and let slip the crocs of war

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 17:15 | 1126624 Long-John-Silver
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LOL! +1

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 13:57 | 1128123 TBT or not TBT
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The Roman armies wore sandals didn't they?    

The Europeans' boots BTW, are referred to as "booties", as in "booties on the ground".    The French and their mercenaries love a good double-entendre you see, booty on the ground, booties.   And "boots" is so butch.   They are too post-modern for that.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:14 | 1126111 WALLST8MY8BALL
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Have you ever seen the sun
(Have you ever seen the sun, have you ever seen the sun)
Rising high to the sound of a gun?
Blue and white and yellow sun
(Blue and white and yellow sun, blue and white and yellow sun)
Capturing imagination
We went down to the piccolo drum
Never made it into the hum
Down to the piccolo
Down to the piccolo
Down to the piccolo snare
Have you ever seen the sea
(Have you ever seen the sea)
Painted red by a bleeding army?
Sky hawks gather for a feast
(Sky hawks gather for a feast)
Of pawns who will never find peace
Tumbledown to the piccolo snare
Never made it into the square
Down to the piccolo
Down to the piccolo
No one particular cared

Dreaming, dreaming, dreaming, dreaming
Now! We can go home again
To our old haunts again
Together
Now scatter us all around
Far from the bugle sound
Surrender
Safe in the exclusion zone
Catch me and take me home
As brother fights brother
Wrapped up in tarnished flags
Banners and body bags
Surrender!
(Surrender!)
Dreaming, dreaming, dreaming, dreaming
Dreaming, dreaming, dreaming, dreaming
Dreaming, dreaming, dreaming, dreaming

http://www.superfurry.org/info.php?q=piccolosnare&t=lyrics

 

 

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 20:18 | 1127051 Millivanilli
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Team America, fuck yeah!  Killin for freedom, god damnit. 

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 14:51 | 1125996 Homey Da Clown
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I'm still not giving back my Nobel Peace Prize.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:28 | 1126182 long juan silver
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Gadaffi needs women

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:32 | 1126206 long juan silver
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Berlesconi needs women!!

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:30 | 1126209 long juan silver
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This means WAR!!!

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 23:48 | 1127348 EvlTheCat
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No, Gadaffi needs nurses!!

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:31 | 1126201 willien1derland
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Don't give back the cash either HdC - you can give it to a charity for all those Libyan orphans we are about to create - God save us from ourselves

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 10:59 | 1127808 Abitdodgie
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There will not be any orphans we kill everyone.

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 14:03 | 1128124 TBT or not TBT
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We are paying too much for precision weaponry, JAG officers, and rules of engagement training then.   Extermination could be done cheaply, as the Rwandans demonstrated some few years ago.   Don't even need to spend on bullets.      So, I'm gonna say your rhetoric is way way over the top, and add that most orphans created will have been created by their stupid fathers, who chose to man anti-aircraft batteries, command and control centers, or tank columns, when the rational thing for them to do would be to go home.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 14:59 | 1126001 The Count
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Does anybody here know that Gaddafi helped save the big Italian bank Unicredit and with it Bank Austria (and maybe others?). How convenient if Gadaffi is out of the picture because then the billions he put in will simply be confiscated forever....

The only thing worse than being an enemy of the west is being its 'friend'. Just ask Hosni!

The powers that be always used war as a way to maximize their profits and take attention off the dealings. And here we are again. Lucky we have Al-Qaida or the puppet masters would have to invent some other foe.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:21 | 1126140 SilverBaron
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I keep picturing Gadaffi as that poor bastard on Training Day that had the money buried under his kitchen floor.  The new recruit said something about why are you doing this to your friend.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 16:55 | 1126565 Ralphie
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"Why is he my friend, because he knows my first name? Roger sold dope to kids. The world is a better place without him. This man was the biggest major violator in Los Angeles. This is the game. I'm playing his ass. That's my job. That's your job. I watched that cocksucker operate with impunity for over 10 years, and now I got him. The shit's chess, it ain't checkers. What, we all of a sudden gonna roll up in a black-and-white? Come on, man, take the money."

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 18:49 | 1126877 SilverBaron
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Yup, that's the part.  Good flick.

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 14:05 | 1128142 TBT or not TBT
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In the Libya case, Sarkozy would be Roger, and Obama would be the rookie I guess.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 14:55 | 1126004 Josh Randall
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They are going to set up a ring around their new Al Qaeda Oil Inc. operation they control now and not let Red Rover come over

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 23:05 | 1127288 palmereldritch
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Al Qaoileda

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 14:55 | 1126005 truont
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Obama was asked in an interview with the Spanish-language network Univision if a land invasion would be out of the question in the event air strikes fail to dislodge Gadhafi from power. Obama replied that it was "absolutely" out of the question.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110323/ap_on_re_us/us_us_libya_32

 

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 14:56 | 1126028 Infinite QE
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Anyone who still believes in Obama deserves the arse fecking they are in for.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 14:59 | 1126040 youngandhealthy
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We are talking Europe here....!! What US says in this matter means zilt..

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:09 | 1126084 Josh Randall
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LOL - thats a good one..

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:15 | 1126117 Rodent Freikorps
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Obama promises come with an expiration date of about one hour.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:32 | 1126210 Dr. Richard Head
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He has been taking notes on expiration dates of currency market interventions by central banks.  Fuckey see, fuckey do.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 16:40 | 1126515 Mesquite
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! ! !

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 15:30 | 1126198 SilverBaron
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Then he called the EU and said don't worry about that, it was just campaign rhetoric.

Fri, 04/01/2011 - 17:16 | 1126635 NotApplicable
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Nah, it wasn't rhetoric. He was completely honest when he said he wouldn't invade. Something about his allergies to the DU in the sand.

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