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House Passes Financial Farce Reform
Final vote 237 to 192.
We will shortly bring you the roll call of those who have convincingly sold out to Wall Street
Farce recap from Reuters:
The U.S. House of
Representatives on Wednesday approved a landmark overhaul of
financial regulations but the Senate put off action until
mid-July, delaying a final victory for President Barack Obama.
Still, the 237 to 192 vote in the House marked a
win for
Obama and his fellow Democrats, who have made the most sweeping
rewrite of Wall Street rules since the 1930s a top priority in
the wake of the 2007-2009 financial crisis.
"That's why were are
here today, to make sure that never
happens again," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said. "We will pass
the toughest set of Wall Street reforms in generations."
Analysts
say Obama is all but certain to get the measure on
his desk eventually, but Democrats' hopes of sending a bill to
him to sign into law by the July 4 Independence Day holiday
were dashed.
The death of Democratic Senator Robert Byrd and cold
feet
among Republican allies has complicated efforts to round up the
votes needed in the Senate. A week-long break following the
July 4 Independence Day holiday means the Senate won't act
until the week of July 12, at the earliest.
The bill would impose
tighter regulations on financial
firms and reduce their profits. It would boost consumer
protections, force banks to reduce risky trading and investing
activities and set up a new government process for liquidating
troubled financial firms.
With congressional elections
approaching in November,
Democrats have ridden a wave of public disgust at an industry
that has awarded itself fat paydays while the rest of the
country struggles with high unemployment.
Wall Street and
Republicans have tried to delay the bill or
lessen its reach, but the measure has actually gotten tougher
during its year-long journey through Congress.
Republicans say
the bill would hurt the economy by
burdening businesses with a thicket of new regulations. They
also point out that it ducks the question of how to handle
troubled mortgage finance giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac,
which Democrats plan to tackle next year.
Fannie Mae and Freddie
Mac, which own or guarantee half of
all U.S. mortgages, have received a total of about $145 billion
in taxpayer bailouts since being seized by the government in
September 2008. Their regulator has said he does not know how
much more taxpayer support they will need.
"All this bill before
us does is perpetuate the same dumb
regulation that got us into this financial pickle in the first
place," said Republican Representative Jeb Hensarling.
Democrats
have seized the opportunity to link their
political foes with an unpopular industry. Obama on Wednesday
accused Republicans of being out of touch with the American
people for opposing reforms, and others echoed his line of
attack on the House floor.
"Republicans have sided with big Wall
Street banks at
every opportunity," said Democratic Representative Luis
Guitierrez. "If it helps Wall Street banks, they favor it, but
if it helps Main Street and regular Americans, they won't vote
for it."
SCRAMBLING IN THE SENATE
As Democrats marched to
victory in the House, their
colleagues in the Senate scrambled for votes.
Byrd's death left
Democrats one vote shy of the 60 needed
to overcome procedural hurdles in the 100-seat chamber, and
Democrats have yet to nail down support from Republican
moderates whose votes will be needed to advance the bill.
Those
Republicans -- Susan Collins, Olympia Snowe and Scott
Brown -- had voted for an earlier version, but they objected to
a $17.9 billion tax on large financial institutions that was
added last week to cover the bill's costs.
Democrats stripped out
the tax in a last-minute negotiating
session on Tuesday to address their concern. All three
moderates said they were still studying the final bill before
deciding how to vote.
Collins said she was inclined to support
it, while Snowe
said it was a "possibility" that she could vote for it.
"We're
just trying to work it out and I am sure we will be
able to, but it's important to get it right," Snowe said.
Brown,
who won significant concessions earlier in the
process, also declined to say how he would vote.
"It's morphed
into something different than it began with
and I think it's appropriate to read it," he said of the
2,000-plus page bill.
Democrats could also pick up needed support
from their own
side of the aisle. Maria Cantwell, one of two Democrats who
voted against the bill earlier, said she might reconsider.
Democrat Christopher Dodd, the bill's chief advocate in the
Senate, said lawmakers should not vote against it just because
they don't like one or two elements.
"No one's going to get
everything they want in this bill, I
certainly didn't," he said. "I've done everything I know how to
do to accommodate my colleagues to make this as fair, as
balanced, as thoughtful as I possibly could."
Representative
Barney Frank, the Democrat who has overseen
the bill in the House, said he would try to revive that tax on
banks in separate legislation.
Even after Obama signs the bill
into law, its final impact
will remain unclear for several years while regulators work to
put it into effect. Congress also could pass another bill to
fix technical mistakes in the legislative language, said an
aide to Frank.
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You could save some bandwith with a roster of the ones who didnt sell out. Much shorter list.
We want the list.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFKzbN_0WLw
There was probably a similar soundbite for Graham-Leach-Bliley and look where that got us. Let's hope our senators vote this down.
I can't even think of anything witty and sarcastic to say. These guys aren't even in the right shooting gallery.
Sorry, but this is just one more illustration that it's time for the pitchforks as the 'representatives of the people' aren't doing anything of the sort.
2,000 page bill? Guaranteed, most of them haven't read it and of the ones that did, the majority of those didn't understand it. What exactly do these people do to justify a salary?
"What exactly do these people do to justify a salary?"
Take bribes.
Honesty.....opps, sorry.....honestly, it's hard work.
"She works hard for the money!"
Haha. They have nothing else to contribute to society. Public service should not be lucrative but a call to serve and do good.
Imagine what utility someone like Ben Bernanke would and every other Fed official would serve to society if their religion is completely debunked and people say, "Hey assholes..printing money and stealing from us to spend is not rocket science. We would all like to have free money and create nothing of value"
If America wakes up and simply says these people are retarded clowns they will have no means of finding employment aside from teaching high school math if they are lucky. Not a one of these people could start up a business since they are entirely too myopic. Most of these politicians have become reliant upon bribes for their prosperity. There is a reason nobody wanted to be a politician previously because it did not pay well enough. Well now they came to the conclusion that they can make quote a living spending tax payer money and have all their expenses paid.
They are useless for any civilized society. What I would give to pull a Freak Friday with anyone of these Senators for just a few years. I would NEVER permit these criminals to give me the Potomac two step and would be completely incapable of corruption. Becoming a politician should come with a fucking polygraph.
Politicians are being rational. Many (and soon, the majority) of their voting constituents are sucking on the government tit. Why do they care if taxpayers get a heavier burden?
Getting re-elected means getting campaign money from Goldman Sachs, giving taxpayer money to the tit-suckers, and giving us middle-class taxpayers/producers the finger. It's win-win-win!
+1000
...and to think how long it's going to take for me to pay off my student loans to veternarian school.
Get a job as a Vet for Uncle Sam at federal level, and there's a program to forgive all that shiz-nit. If Obama offers up goodies in return for everyone working for him, why fight it? Avoid the rush and get a govt job!
After like a 2 year committment per $30K, you can bail--but it's easy work and if you kill someone's animal by mistake, Uncle Sam pays the bill.
+1000
I once served as an elected director of a "Metro District" of 900 lots and homes. I was offered a trip to Italy in exchange for a 5 foot height variance. Sadly, that could have only been granted by the HOA, another board entirely... I had to send the guy down the street.
When you find out (if you ever do) let me know as well, ok?
Love the fucking symbolism of putting this monstrosity on the President's desk on July 4th. Are we supposed to assume that somewhere in the 2000 pages is our freedom from tyranny?? What a fucking joke.
Note to Congress...the Declaration of Independence was a single page.
If the Dems can buy off the Guv of WVA to just fast track a Byrd thinkalike, they can then Blago on as planned.
The pillage continues. Gone are even the days of expecting our representatives to know what they are voting for. I would rather have drunken chimps vote on the bills. Might be harder to bride the chimps, better hygiene too.
5-1 Barney Frank snatched that shit.
http://newsfeed.time.com/2010/06/29/is-king-tuts-penis-missing/?xid=huffpo-direct
This "reform" bill is just TARP made permanent, next time the recession gets deeper, and oh yes it will, the Fed will no longer need permission from anyone, just print more dollars.
It strenghtens the Federal Reserve. The American taxpayer will now be permanently made the safety net for all bailouts in the future.
And how f'ed up is this "reform" bill? 200-250 pages are definitions, 400-450 are just "guidelines" to be filled in later.
Yep, looks like they want to "pass it so that we can find out what's in it". news flash you ignorant a-holes in Congress, we already know what crap is in this "reform" bill
It has NOTHING to do with reform, its just a power grab, and those with the lobbyists decide who gets the power, and the American taxpayer of present and future generations will have to pay that bill.
Yeah, like we're supposed to believe anything with the title "Dodd-Frank financial reform bill"
i used to be a proud american. now, i'm disgusted too. i think this will be the first year that i won't do anything to celebrate independence day... not until we (re?)gain independence from these goddamn motherfuckin' banks!!
Don't go giving me the peoples elbow for saying this but I think everyone should change the colors this 4th of July to Yellow and fly the Gadsden flag. Maybe that will get their attention.
No surprises here. The easies way to predict any legislation, media "leak" or political message is to ask yourself one question.
"How can we fuck mom & pop and reward the elites who purchase political protection?"
1) Ensure TBTF continues and the taxpayer ATM can still be relied upon as a last resort
2) Allow banks to use tax payer deposits to leverage their bets in the market after we just had a massive crash due to inflated asset prices.
3) Limit the Volcker rule so banks can buy out their competition who may speculate against them while ensuring they have the most capital to buyout all competition.
4) Allow the largest monopoly in the history of markets which is the equivalent of Ma Bell on Crack cocaine x 4,000,000,000,000 to not only not be broken up but become larger
5) Permit these large monopolies to hold seats on the board of the Fed which doles out taxpayer money
6) Allow banks envelope all of their "services" into one neat umbrella corp. that is funded by taxpayers while not forcing them to spin off all separate services.
7) Make no distinction on who can access Federal discount window regardless of suepr hedge funds like Goldman which are bank holdings in name only. Meanwhile Citadel can fuck themselves since they have not purchased enough politicians.
8) Allow banks to coordinate their market moves in clandestine like CIA operations without fear of prosecution
9) Allow banks to hold to manipulate metals markets since it is beneficial for the Federal Reserve and do not impose any severe penalties for such actions even when men like Mcguire attest to this blatant action.
10) Raid Americans savings at a time when they need it most in order to distribute every dollar they have into reflating assets so that the once free nation of the U.S. now has a modus operandi policy of reverse Robin Hood take from the poor and give to the rich.
11) Allow banks to pretend their assets are whatever they claim to be worth via mark to market ban.
12) Not create an SEC like body which is more equipped with as much capital as a Wall Street firm and not hire agents of the SEC which are rewarded with Wall Street like bonus commissions for uncovering massive fraud and insider trading.
13) Use U.S. taxpayer money through IMF bailouts and Fed intervention to bailout the Eurozone
14) Ensure tax credits and unlimited unemployment benefits stay in circulation so that home prices can stay at lofty levels to prevent further losses so that the economically uninformed public can be duped into buying still 75% overpriced homes in order to create a new sect of soon to be foreclosed on jobless citizens in a few years.
15) Permit Senators and Congressman to shill themselves out to banks and using their title to appear on media outlets in order to puppet speak for their handlers so that they can continue to receive fat donations and lobbyist fees upon departure along with board appointments.
I will say this. Anyone looking at the most stacked deck in the history of the United States has to be looking at this and saying how can we possibly win against such blatant corruption since they will stop at no expense to spend everyone of your dollars and newly printed dollars to ensure it continues till infinity?
Nothing lasts forever and these same dumb bastards who lack anything close to intelligence are also not stupid enough to see that the law of diminishing returns also applies to politics. Communism only works until you run out of other peoples money to spend and they have only expedited they day that we arrive at end game. Never in the history of civilization has such corruption ever been successful for anything but a limited time. The things we are about to witness will be astounding to most. I will not even speculate on the way things will end but only to say grandiose spectacles of fed up citizens committed agains the elites that will finally make them realize the citizens cannot be pushed any further. When these people have nothing left to lose because they have lost their homes, jobs, benefits, families, checks, assets and finally American Idol the rhetoric will stop and the shear terror of their retaliation will force the U.S. government to overhaul their system swiftly just to avoid riots. Not a single one of these morons have ever read a history book but this all ends bad.
A great post. Have to agree that the system will not long last under the orgy of corruption. This is still the quiet before the real storm, sadly.
Agreed, nice post.
Very well said, as always.
John McCloy
Put NOT in front of every one of your points and we have...
A New *Declaration of Independence*
What's it cost to build a platform and a guillotine?
Agree. A Hard Rain's Gonna Fall.
"Congress also could pass another bill to fix technical mistakes in the legislative language, said an aide to Frank. "
Oh Lord. The entire bill is a "mistake". Tarp made permanent essentially, volker rule watered down to the point of being useless, another layer of beauracratic crap making it even harder to get loans for small biz. Propping up wall st. firms with tax payer money.
"The deterioration of every government begins with the decay of the principles on which it was founded."
–Charles-Louis De Secondat(1689-1755) Baron de Montesquieu – Source: The Spirit of the Laws, 1748
Suppose we ban Lobbyists would they (Congress/Senate) still be able to do their jobs, I don't think they'd have a clue. It's like the shark and remora relationship, destroy one both will perish.
Whatever. Fucking tax my ass. Just get it over with. Im dying to see how my 20,000/ Year paycheck will look. Just do it already and stop pouring salt on my wound.
unless you had a $20,000 paycheque a month, you don't have to worry.
Actually $29,00/ year. $20,00/ Month..Is that true ? I really have nothing to worry about?
Starve yourself now and buy gold so you don't actually starve later.
Anyone not really really rich is about to have a hard time just putting food on the table.
My advice is find a skill you can do off the books (e.g. plumber, roadside vegetable stand farmer, etc.) and cheat on your taxes like your name is Timmy Geithner when they exceed 50% on $29K a year.
In typical fashion we ought to expect a major bull run in the market tomorrow and beyond.
Can't believe the futures are still down. Where's the orchestrated backdrop to put a positive spin on this vote and make it a great day for America?
While I agree this is a bad bill, I must ask, what do you expect the elected government to do when they can't get even one Republican vote in support Fin Reg after the biggest heist in history perpetrated by the banks. Very curious how Obama, Barney, and Speaker Palosi are the villains... WTF do you think you'd get if those idiots Canter and Bainer were in control?
So you admit it's a bad bill, but it's still the minority party's fault for not supporting it.
Brilliant.
Nice try... now how about telling us what a Republican Congress would do to address the issue... here's a hint... Fcuk All!
Honestly, I have no idea.
But we don't have a Republican Congress. Do we?
So why don't you focus on what's actually happening instead of constructing silly strawman hypotheticals that are easier on your own partisan and philosophical predispositions, mm-kay?
"Honestly, I have no idea"... brilliant.
Thanks.
Your clue as to what the Republicans would do is the original bailout vote in 2008. They would cave. Both parties are rotten to the core.
It's absolutely silly to be choosing sides though, when it's become painfully obvious that the American voter has been, for many decades, taken for a ride on the partisian political train. The same train that is now barelling at superman speeds towards the cliff.
Direct your anger where it belongs, the connected monied interests in both business AND politics. I suspect trying to convince ZH readers that the red shirts are worse than the blue shirts is a waste of your time, the whole f*cking team sucks!
Couldn't agree more Neo!
My point was that the Republican minority was a significant contributor to the deterioration of the bill as it evolved through Congress, but they seem to get a free ride... lets "hold every one's feet to the fire," was the message... as you say, they all suck!
Fair point, Neo. The best the Red Shirts could muster on the final 2008 vote was something like 108 opposed, 99 in favor. Disgraceful, really - for a vote that should have been a slam-dunk "NO!"
There's a couple of things that are absolutely certain about screw-ups this big: 1) they're always "bipartisan" and 2) they've been going on for a long, long time. I firmly believe our fate was sealed in 1913, accelerated in 1933, then again in 1971, and that we're now at "Ludicrous Speed". It's not going to end well when we finally hit the wall at that speed.
And absolutely, they all suck. What is really starting to tire me though, to be honest, is that I can barely get-out a 5-count for a story like this that is rather negative for the Dems before somebody flies in with a completely unrelated "But But But REPUBLICANS SUCK!!!!!" comment. Sure, they suck. Know what else? They have absolutely, precisely zero power in this current legislative climate. Team Blue got exactly what they said they wanted - total control of this crazy train. And they're screwing it up - royally.
Would McMaverick be any better? Almost certainly not - but we'll never know and it doesn't matter. Juan McMaverick isn't the president and his party is powerless in congress. So that "REPUBLICANS SUCK!!!!" really isn't germane to this, or any, discussion until such time as Team Red has some actual power and authority to wield legislatively.
At that point, and it could be as early as next January, we get to see if they "Got Religion" or if the torches and pitchforks need to come out in front of their offices, too. Anyone expecting Team Red to be any better is almost certainly going to be disappointed - but just as diapers need to be changed regularly, it should be obvious to any but the most rabidly partisan that the sell-by date of this particular congress is already come and gone.
And when Team Blue had the ball, they screwed the pooch as well. Seems to be a pattern. I'd write my senators to kill the dog where it lies but Casey and Spector are both Ds - maybe Spector would vote to kill it as a lame duck however, so I'll try. Casey has shit where brains ought to be, and votes the party line. Easier that way, I guess. Saves alot of time coming up with pesky "positions" on things.
It's just like you said Neo, "Two wings of the same bird of prey". It's all about power and money to accomplish two things, get reelected and get the big payday when they leave. Our system is badly broken. The good news is that fifty million of us voting with the same mind can easily solve this. We just have to find a guy who can sell a simple plan to fix it to the public. The bad news is that most of the "public" doesn't even realize what the problem is. Just like most of them will believe the bull that this FinReg bill is going to fix that problem when we know it doesn't even address the "real" problem. I find it hard to believe that with our ability to communicate with each other today that we can't pull this off. Call me crazy.
Excellent Semiotics. The word 'FinReg' has been tested to give the illusion that the cure has been engaged. Like a sugar pill placebo 'medication', the terminal cancer patient has accepted the misdirection as the benefits have expired. After years of writing excellent FinRegs, we watch as our Representatives are allowing the barn doors to remain open as ever, never bothering to note that at the end of it all, the cops have been advised to stand down or confuse jurisdictions and whistle-blowers are dis-incented.
FinReg. Sounds so 1984.
Futures rising steadily. SUPRISE!
If it is, it sure isn't by much. Less than 1 point on the SP500. Around only 10 points on the DJI.
Yea, it's shelf life wasn't very long. That's for sure. They'll ramp it tomorrow, maybe...or not.
This "landmark" bill must have occured during a "watershed" moment. One tradegy after another, all while the pacified American public sleeps. Shame on us for allowing this. It stops when, and only when, we say so.
A little revolution now-and-then is a good thing.
They let today get away on them gave the shorts a chance to stick their head out of the hole. Why do you think that was, what would happen with a mildly positive fudged employment report, thats right SP 1043 Dow 10 k. Get out the hats,strike up the band boys, one more time and this time with feeling. How much of this torture can one endure?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EMElqZx4Is
Wouldn’t it be cheaper not to have Congress spend the time and effort to deal with financial regulations and just ask the banks what they want and give it to them?
THIS FINANCIAL REFORM BILL WON’T STOP THE NEXT FINANCIAL CRISIS by Peter Cohan | Daily Finance 06/25/10
Now that the House and Senate have settled their differences on the giant financial regulatory overhaul bill, it’s clear that lobbyists for the banking industry got a good return on their investment. But what about the American people? Not so much. With the financial industry spending $600 million since January 2009 to protect its interests, the new regulatory package limits the bank tax to $19 billion over a decade (a mere $1.9 billion a year).
Considering that the cost of cash and guarantees to bail out the financial crisis totaled $23.7 trillion, that 0.08% down-payment for the next crisis is a pretty slim cushion. Moreover, while financial reform does force banks to spin off some derivatives businesses, it misses most of the financial crisis’s major causes.
When money talks louder than the public interest, you get the best government money can buy. In this case, it’s the so-called Dodd-Frank bill, which Senator Christopher Dodd (D-Conn.) and Representative Barney Frank (D-Mass.) pushed through…
Dodd-Frank is touted as a way to achieve many objectives:
Congressional negotiators created two little problems on the road to achieving those lofty goals. The compromises they’ve made to create a passable bill weaken it considerably. But far more important, the bill fails miserably at what should be its primary goal: to prevent future financial crises.
Here are the three most prominent compromises:
The most disturbing part of the bill is that it won’t prevent the next financial crisis. To do that, it would need to do several things differently. But here are the three most important:
· Demand higher capital requirements. Banks were able to borrow as much as $50 for every $1 of capital during the peak of the latest bubble. That borrowing should be limited to $8, and government should have the power to take immediate action to punish any financial institution exceeding that level. Without tight control of bank borrowing, the cycle of bubbles building and bursting is baked into the system.
· Link banker pay to return and risk. Dodd-Frank does nothing to change the way bankers are paid. People do what they get paid to do, and under the bill bankers will still be able to get enormous bonuses that reward them for putting big deals on the books without having to pay any of the costs if those deals fail. This heads-I-win-tails-you-lose setup ensures that bankers will find new ways to get big bonuses while shifting the costs of their mistakes onto the public (emphasis mine). We ought to require banker pay to go in an escrow account for 10 years to be used to cover the costs of deals that go bad.
· End too-big-to-fail. By creating a 10-person interagency committee to warn us of the next big financial crisis, the bill doesn’t do nearly enough to prevent huge institutions from causing a sudden collapse of the financial system. The May 6 flash crash that caused the Dow to drop about 1,000 points in 20 minutes remains a mystery more than six weeks later. With markets operating at such lightning speed, we shouldn’t derive any confidence that such an early-warning mechanism will work. Instead we should break up the too-big-to-fail institutions.
Since Dodd-Frank misses these key problems. When President Obama signs the financial reform legislation… American will continue to be under Wall Street’s yoke. But since it spends an average of $500 million a year on Washington, Wall Street gets the best government money can buy. As for the rest of America, in the words of Marie Antoinette: “Let them eat cake.”
http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/investing/this-financial-reform-bill-wont-stop-the-next-financial-crisis/19530909/#
"The most disturbing part of the bill is that it won’t prevent the next financial crisis."
Would this bill have prevented the current financial crisis?
* ZH Is it OK that I had to use quickmath.com to post this one?
While it can't be argued that one party is any better than the other as a whole, it is mostly democrats or those who vote with their caucus who have proposed half decent measures(i.e. Sanders, Lincoln, Kaufman, Whitehouse, Cantwell, Grayson, Feingold...). The only republican who has been good is Paul, and he is ostracized from his own party.
If we want this bill to fail, and I think we all do, it's time to call your Senator's office and let them know this bill isn't strong enough, especially if it's one of those pols I mentioned above. Hell, you can contact them even if they don't represent you. These dems will vote against the reform if they hear enough input from their constituents indicating that's what they want. I, for one, sent an email thanking Feingold for opposing this bill as soon as I heard he was giving it the thumbs down, and his state is a thousand miles from where I sit.
a friend of mine at IBM once told me " never do a business plan longer than 15 pages because after 15 pages nobody is going to read it" 2000 pages good luck
That's the idea, put the middle class out of business. The blood thirsty power elites will suck every last ounce of wealth that the middle class and poor have before they are done.
For those with short attn spans, anything Barney Frank and Judd Gregg voted for you then you know for fact it is good for the banksters/Wall Street.
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We will shortly bring you the roll call of those who have convincingly sold out to Wall Street
That is exactly why the Federal Election Committee is going after the Campaign for Liberty. Campaign for Liberty is a libetarian grass-roots organization. The FEC says that when you publish a congresscritter's votes in an election year, you are influencing how people will vote in November, thereby causing "illegal electioneering".
Are you kidding me?!
We are so @%&$3d if they get away with this.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/fec-attempts-to-shut-down-campaign-for-liber...
Before we get started, let's sign a release absolving the banks of all their past wrongs, shall we...
Tim Geithner
Our leaders have failed us. The issue is what to do about it in the face of seemingly overwhelming odds interested in preserving the status quo. There is no quick fix of course, but a growing sense of disenchantment that will finally result in action from the populace. Maybe.
'Off with their heads'
FinFarce Has a nice ring to it.
+1
2,000 pages, none of these losers knows what is in the bill which was written by 15 year old staffers and lobbyists!
EURUSD buying support detected for some time now, has returned again and the daily chart is now neutral to bullish.
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