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House Rejects Measure Approving "Limited" Military Intervention In Libya
Just out:
- HOUSE REJECTS MEASURE TO ALLOW ONLY SOME SUPPORT ACTIONS
- HOUSE VOTES NOT TO RESTRICT U.S. MILITARY ROLE IN LIBYA
The vote was 238 to 180. So does this mean the president is now implicitly violating the War Powers Act? It is getting impossible to follow all the strands of the 5 war fronts that America is successfully finding itself into. Also, does it mean America is now officially at war with Libya? Or does it mean simply that America has unlimited funding to continue its pursuit of "humanitarian" light sweet?
Inquiring minds want to know.
From Reuters:
War-fatigued lawmakers in the U.S. House of Representatives took a symbolic swipe at President Barack Obama's Libya policy on Friday, rejecting a resolution that would have authorized his limited military intervention against Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi for a year.
The Republican-led House, upset over Obama's failure to seek congressional approval of U.S. military action in Libya, voted 123-295, largely along party lines, to reject the resolution endorsing U.S. involvement in the NATO-led mission.
Immediately after the vote, the House began debating a second Libya measure that would effectively prevent the U.S. military from participating in strike missions against Libya but allow it to continue to provide NATO forces with intelligence, refueling, planning and other support.
Since NATO took over the Libya operation on March 31, the United States has conducted 755 strike sorties, including 119 in which the planes actually fired at targets. Thirty-nine of the strikes involved the use of drone aircraft.
The congressional action was another warning to Obama about growing discontent among lawmakers after a decade of wars in Afghanistan and Iraq that has cost more than a trillion dollars and has helped fuel a $1.4 trillion budget deficit.
Lawmakers who supported action authorizing U.S. participation in the NATO mission against Gaddafi warned that rejection of the measure and approval of curbs on U.S. military involvement could damage the U.N.-authorized operation.
The bottom line, the constitutional professor's attempt to trample the constitution is what has set everyone off:
"We probably would have had ... pretty broad
support here in the Congress for the action that was taken by the
president if there had been early authorization," said Representative
David Dreier, a Republican. "I think Democrats and Republicans alike
acknowledge that this has been very, very poorly handled."
That... and everything else in the last few years.
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No. But, he certainly is violating the comandment "Thou shalt not kill".
"Thou shalt not kill" ='s "Thou shall Not! Murder" you can defend yourself..
Since Barry's popularity is going down the drain, the only event that could save his presidency from total collapse, should be another false flag event on continental US: most likely a controlled nuclear explosion (dirty bomb) targeting a major urban concentration that may kill dozens of thousands of civilians. Of course, this "terrorist" attack will be carried out by the CIA in partnership with Mossad and MI6, to later on be blamed on Al Qaeda working in conjunction with elements of Iran's IRGC and Pakistan's ISI. Obama needs the unconditional support of the brute and ignorant American populace in order to expand the so-called "War on Terror." Remember that Americans are a bunch of stupid animals easy to manipulate and subdue; the psychological impact of an event like the one mentioned above would be enough to rally these brutes to back any retaliatory action taken by the Obama administration against Libya, Syria, Iran and Pakistan - and the implementation of Martial Law in the United States as well.
You need some major mental/emotional assistance immediately. Seriously.
Why? You think his/her theory is that far-fetched?
By the way, do you actually think WTC 7 was brought down by some fires in the lobby? In a free-fall collapse that exactly mirrored a controlled demolition? www.buildingwhat.org.
I actually think the dirty-bomb theory is at least possible, if not plausible. Do you really think the PTB care about killing 10-20k people in order to give their fiat, private central bank, fractional reserve system (that is collapsing in on itself) another 2-3 years? The same people that have essentially launched us into any number of current foreign wars that have killed hundreds of thousands of civilians.
Wake the fuck up.
Right on. Thank you.
There are people in this world that would crush a thousand baby heads to steal your candy bar. And they run this country.
Correct - AND - those who junk the assertions here, that false flag attacks have been used and will be used again by the US empire - please, let us all know what else - what aside from this external, negative factor, will be capable of uniting the divided and competing and mutually hateful US population segments - and preventing the US from complete fragmentation when US defaults?
The democrats and republicans have been polarizing this nation for decades. It now needs to go the way of the soviet union and break up. The politics are corrupt, the courts are corrupt, the Constitution has been abandoned, the spending is out of control, and we are starting too many wars / police actions around the world for wall street and oil companies. The democrats and republicans have sold the citizens into servitude to the banks. There is no reason to continue down the path we are being lead by our political leaders who's vote goes to the highest bidder. The only way to turn things around is to get rid of the central bank (which isn't going to happen) and repeal the 17th amendment (which isn't going to happen). A peaceful break-up of the U.S. is desirable but I doubt the central government would allow a loss of power peacefully. States will not proceed with cession movements as they have been manipulated and blackmailed over the year to rely on federal funding. A violent civil war is the only way to leave the central governments strangle hold.
Wake the fuck up.
Right on joe. +
Then I need serious mental assistance, too.
I've seen building 7 fall, from many views. Explosions on every floor as it pancaked. That was not a "natural" collapse caused by fire damage. It was a demolition, by the book.
Until 9/11/2001 I would have never dreamed that our government would kill homeland Americans for gain. Now I KNOW better.
They've proven they're willing to kill innocent humans for oil. Or is that a "false" perception, too?
Well, technically, they killed them for opium/heroin ... but your point is still valid.
They went into Afghanistan to re-plant the poppies just 4 weeks after 9-11, whereas it took them 15 months to manoeuvre into Iraq to take over control of the oil. It takes them 4 weeks just to prepare the teleprompter for a press conference, FFS! (For example, they're currently "mobilising" forces for an invasion somewhere in MENA for October).
9-11 was planned years ahead to target Afghanistan, while the Saddam-is-harbouring-terrorists/WMDs thing was just a "never let a good crisis go to waste" add-on.
@Blano, Your world operates 'above table' only, eh? Well, let's see. A brief, and by no means comprehensive, history of false flag events:
- 1931 Mukden incident, by the Japanese as pretext for war with China.
- 1939 Gleiwitz incident by Germans to justify war with Poland, and, 0peration Himmler to get the German population behind European War.
- 1939 the Soviet Union shelled the Russian village of Mainila near the Finnish border, attacked Finland. The truth was later revealed.
- 1953 U.S./British Operation Ajax, see: https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-pub...
- 1962 Operation Northwoods by the U.S. as a plan for war with Cuba, later uncovered by the Freedom of Information Act.
- 1967 U.S.S. Liberty torpedoed by Israel to try to get the U.S. to attack Egypt. See http://www.uss-liberty.com/ and, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
Google them. Just enough to make you go, Hmmmmmmm...
When central planning and the status quo become matters of absolute national security.....shit happens.
Well done Shell Game! Haymarket riots stand out for me. Basically a time of class warfare in America as well. Striking workers protest, police throw bombs at fellow policemen, govt rounds up local anarchists leaders who were not even at the protest and murder them through the courts, next the police that threw the bombs were caught. Read all about it, highly informative for those of us who have a hard time dealing with this idea in current times due to the viceral impact of this realization it to your perception of the world. It's easier to understand when you don't have a stake, so the Haymarket Riots are a good read.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haymarket_affair
Once again, Gaddafi don't kill your people - we want to do it! Obama and Bush are war criminals, no different than Malosivich, Saddam Hussein, and many others. The rationale for our killing is no different.
What’s the difference between Bush and Saddam?
Sheik Ahmed Yassin, Osama Bin Laden
Or Idi Amin
…Fidel Castro
It seems to me they on the same team
Their hate can only lead to innocent blood streams
If it’s so important
For US to fight for mankind
WHY I don’t see none of they kinfolk
Out there on the front line.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skZhxWNSeho
The Chemical Brothers - Left Right
Before comparing our Presidents to people who committed genocide in no uncertain terms, you should learn the correct spelling of their name; it's Milosevic. How is the rationale for for the action in Libya comparable in any way to say the shelling for two years of Sarajevo or the gassing in Kurdistan? I'm so sick of the partian politics on this board that has exiled so many of the old, great posters like Cheeky Bastard. I can even remember when RoboTrader was well liked. But that was when the board was full of discussion about finance and economics. I considr this board for the most part hijacked. But really, how is Obama a war criminal? You might be able to make an argument Bush is but I follow the old doctrine of politics ends at the shore so I don't like to call Pres. Bush a war criminal. My guess if Pain was President a lot of people on this board would be shouting UNAMERICAN to anyone who disagreed with any war she partook in, and I believe she would attack Iran. Hell, not one American soldier has died in Libya and Gaddafi is, in fact, a terrorist who bombed a plane full of civilians. Should we be invovlved? Probably not. This what we call nuance. But the divisiveness of this board and the country-at-large is out of control. The harshness of the reaction to the Black Eyed Peas at the SB, of James Franco at the Oscars and just about anyone who isn't perfect is sickening to me. Hell, I'm from Philly, and we have the best team in baseball and all I hear are complaints. In some ways, I can't wait to austerity comes so people can fully understand what pain really is and stop whining about every detail. We;ve become a country of too short and coffee stained tied micro managers. Rant over. And yes I see the hypocrisy of ranting (or whining) about whining. How ironic?
We were paying Milosevic. How convenient that everyone seem's to forget that little detail when it comes to calling him a mass genicidal maniac that need's to be stopped. How quitely indeed everyone forget's that all of these boogeymen are people we propped up.
We were paying Milosevic. How convenient that everyone seem's to forget that little detail when it comes to calling him a mass genicidal maniac that need's to be stopped. How quitely indeed everyone forget's that all of these boogeymen are people we propped up.
In fairness to the SB reaction, the Black Eyed Peas are fucking terrible.
I agree with your criticism of the partisanship displayed by those here who still don't understand the "one party, two fronts" reality of western politics ... but ... finance and economics are politics! Project Mayhem is about more than just TA and gambling on the [rigged] markets.
Really? So, our bombing people connected to a leader from a different country is different, how? We unilaterally decide the leader has to go so we bomb innocent citizens in Tripoli. We unilaterally decide Saddam must go so we bomb innocent civilians for ten years in Iraq. You are a child if you buy into the propaganda. We have killed more Iraq people than Saddam. We will soon kill mor Libyans than Gadaffi. How about Yemen? Can you articulate the US moral high ground propaganda for how we are right when our President decided to unilaterally bomb those people, and failed to let the American people know for several weeks? Oh yeah, we can tell the good guys from the bad giys from 30,000 feet. There is a difference between you and I, I cherish all life not just American life. I am just as outraged when we bomb civilians as when Gadaffis bombs an American plane. You may recall a tomahawk missle killed his children in the night without warning. I can understand why the folks in the Middle East are pissed at us, because of myopic simpletons like you. Feel free to spellcheck my post.
America is at war with the terrorists. Extend that term to anything you so please.
(can't complain though, oil looks to be cheaper heading into summer)
I wouldnt bet on its stability. All it takes is 1 mid east blow up and overnite oil is back to $130.
Agreed on the stability - but IMO the rise to $110+ was also due to the liquidity enduced vaccum as the fundamentals shouldn't have been anywhere near $100/b oil (tanker oversupplies, and plenty of oil stored in So.US as well as CEE).
So with all that oil we have stored, whats with the 50 m barrels strategic reserve release?
well...that IS the question, isn't it? Even silly CNN morning show were talking about how (anecdotally) people asking WTF? and the one host ascribed it to "another desperate act 'cause they don't know wtf they're doing"
Whoops, its not "we", its private entities i was talking about w/r/t the tankers. As for the States themselves, i think it was mentioned on the news the admin will never release the actual # of reserves to the public. Terrorism or something, you know.
Ya, that's right. Murder, mayhem, standard procedure in protecting your own standard of living. Full retard ZP! This man child of a president is a reactionary idiot, and there you are standing right behind him. Who wouldn't you kill for cheaper gas anyway? Seriously, your moral compass is lacking!
he has zero power and does what he is told. a brand. a teleprompter pro. and we americans elected him (not my choice). problem is, the system is rigged, so voting is an utter joke.
Obama has zero personal power. He has as much institutional power as the other presidents.
Compare the Beer Summit comedy (a shallow example of try at personal power) to the abuse of institutional power in the case of the war against Libya.
he is an actor, taking orders from his handlers. 'barak obama' is brand name, a fiction created to suck in a gullible public. that guy doesn't decide jack.
He is responsible for his actions, regardless of whether he uses an auto-pen to sign legislation.
"Obama has zero personal power. He has as much institutional power as the other presidents." The last president who tried to exercise his "institutional power" was Kennedy. Eisenhower tried to warn him on the way out the door, but Kennedy didn't get the message until Dallas.
This is all anyone needs to know about politics today.
Every elected president knows the score before he moves into the white house, and is aware that you either play ball, or end up slumped in the backseat of your presidential limo.
Im the last one to stand up for obamao or his joke of an administration, but im also a realist in seeing we complain no matter what the outcome is.
Were backing out of Libya? Oh no, those arabs are gonna self destruct and take down the West with them?
Or: oh, were still in Libya? Fuck, we still suck, and now lets just complain about being unnecessary world peacekeepers. The US has always been sticking their nose in others people businesses, wanted or not. The thing is, the wanted or not perspective is different to many many stakeholders and so its not always a simple answer to each conflict - something that unfortunately most posters seek to find.
As for the murder and mayhem at the expense of "cheap" oil for the West - you can't help a nation who doesnt want to help themselves. I.e. Egypt: look how effective their "democracy" is. So i think on that point we're actually in agreement - again, im more of a realist.
Yah fuck, after decades of dictatorship the switch to 'democracy' should always take successful revolutionaries less than ten minutes to achieve, sans growing pains and even if their efforts are being stymied and hindered by some of the most powerful military nations in the world, or it's a total fucking failure. Riiiight.
ZP: You can't really be Canadian, because I'm sure they got the lead out of their water years and years ago.
Lol 10mins to democracy. No no, the West realizes (or, should) that there will never be a true democracy in the ME. Exceptions aside of course.
What don't you understand about the whole MENA region being just fine under dictatorship? I suggest you stop listening to horror stories on CNN about dead babies and start understanding theres a lot more dead babies under a democracy that doesnt work and which brings in numerous rebels inside the country effectively starting a civil war. Look at the Sunnis and Shi'ites and their whole beef - in a perfect world (democracy??) one of them should rule while the other one sits and hopes to play their cards, no? But, obviously, thats now hot it goes in that part of the world.
No lead drinking here, we dont have tap water.
A realist?
How's this for realism? Prior to the NATO intervention, Gaddafi was set to roll through Benghazi to end the uprising in pursuit of Libya's own self interest and peace regardless of what the West thinks best. Fast forward 3 months, and the situation is FUCKED beyond all recognition because Obama decided he could do better. That's real. You shouldn't ignore or condone past events simply because you cannot change them, and flipently declare, "hey, fuckit, gas prices are more bearable."
Realist...indeed!
Must have been a typo, I think he meant 'real ass'.
We should declare war on "holes." That way every time we drop a bomb we get more holes to bomb.
WAY ahead of you on that one; obliterate a Mom and Dad in front of their kid and in ten years you have a guaranteed asshole that even Amy Goodman won't give you grief for vaporising in front of his own kids (so that the cycle perpetuates). US bombs are the gift that keeps on giving.
It is our own nature, as human beings, which we must conquer, not the nature of others.
Freedom is not a goal that can be achieved; it is the necessary means to all other goals.
Freedom is self-control, not license to impose on others.
- Robert LeFevre Freedom School in Colorado Springs, CO
What? I'm confused. All the bitching that has went on over the last month, and now everything is ok?
What the fuck are these people doing?
I don't get it either. Those two points don't jive.
Puppet show...lots of flailing and yelling but it all stays unchanged.
Tower of Babel BITCHEZ!
"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who rules."
Congress doesn't want to approve having a military role there, but at the same time it doesn't want to cut off funding of the troops.
You would think the politician's mouths would be tired from talking from both sides of their pie-holes, yet they yaddle on.
They saw it takes more muscles to frown than to smile, but neither action uses the sphincter like their double talking does.
What a bunch of fucking assholes. These fucks should work on governing themselves before they try to preside over every living and breathing soul.
NO Blood For (LIBYAN) Oil!!
is that your final answer?
We are talking about light sweet crude here. Think about it.
Watch out, if youre seriously cozying up to the side of mass murder for oil, its not just a joke its damnation.
Do you drive? Do you use electricity? Do you eat?
All these things are possible because of mass murder for oil. By putting food in your mouth, you are condoning this transaction.
The Constitution needs a fresh anyway..I think Syria is next followed by Iran after they cut off the oil faucets..
Linking in with the IEA useing Libya Yesterday.
Bill gross ordering more tinfoil hats for Pimco HQ :-)
Pimco tweet
PIMCO PIMCO
IEA Action yesterday continues policymaker efforts to cap bad inflation (silver margins etc.) Nonetheless – higher inflation ahead.
1 hour ago
TPTB guys must realize that Gross has officially left the reservation and they will be wondering what to do to him or its part of a good cop bad cop routine. I think its the former myself.
Run away cars / Hot tubs & pointed umbrella's seem to always crop up for some unexplained reason?
FUCKTARDS....Go Gadfi!!
It has taken me a long time to get here, but as I get older I see all of these "elective wars" as completely rotten. The time nears when we should pull out of all five of them.
We can deal with any regime in a peaceful way.
If we are attacked, we can then go crush any of our enemies.
Been that way since the beginning of organized civilization. War is more profitable then peace. Especially when you bank roll both sides.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window
Pentagon cannot let go US$350 Billion a month income.
President Obama has ordered White House Legal Staff to test the most newly discovered rare earth metal, Unimpeachablium.
There are strong proponents and skeptics of its alleged properties.
The one thing both camps agree on is that Constitutionsubvertiom is real and has been in ample supply for some time.
... er, excuse me sir, just one more thing...
as long as you make it perfectly clear...
Setting up to make Libya the 51st State and Tripoli the new Orlando
so israel is the 50th state?... or is that Puerto Rico
CIA off loading Contras as we speak. Chipotle to open chain in Tripoli to serve influx of weapon wheeling Hispanics.
HOUSE REJECTS MEASURE TO ALLOW ONLY SOME SUPPORT ACTIONS
This is bascially saying:
We reject 'only some' support action, because some isn't good enough, we give 'full action' support.
Great speech by Ron Paul on this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UYcHBD4dHo
Thanks for posting that.
Ron Paul voted NOT to reject Limiting Funds for Military Involvement in Libya because the exclusions authorize the previously unauthorized actions.
http://www.infowars.com/ron-paul-slams-absurd-libya-war-powers-debate/
The 1970's War Powers Resolution does not provide a way with teeth to stop unauthorized war since that resolution's method to end war, section 5c, relies on a conceptual contradiction, a "concurrent" (lacking the force of law) resolution, and is known as a defective legislative veto. The War Powers Resolution effectively gives unconstitutional power to the president to declare war.
What congress can do to stop it is not vote to fund war and/or impeach which may mean getting the War Powers Resolution declared unconstitutional.
Instead they vote to give the president perpetual war powers:
www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h2011-361
www.infowars.com/obamas-promise-to-veto-worldwide-war-bill-rings-hollow
To me, these two actions mean full steam ahead in Lybia. We want their oil (if not for us then for Italy), so what Italy doesn't need is left for us!!!! Khadafi is a terrorist. Thus, kill him, rape his Country. What's new.
Dallas Cowboys already with contingency plan to become the Tripoli Pashas
hopefully, this means the congo is not gonna interfere in the military mission, itself.
hopefully, will interfere w/ prez0 (long shot, i know) to end the whole fuking thing.
+ Coltan
http://i.imgur.com/Z2x5r.jpg
And what did Gaddafi do to us, specifically....can anyone name anything?
Blowing up a PanAm jet over Scotland. to start
Already bombed him once for that, didn't we?
Oh, Scotland is the USA? And Gaddafi was convicted of that? I heard otherwise, that it was all a sham.
Too funny... roflmao!
Seriously, Scotland 30 years ago is the justification for a full on war today? You cant really be serious.
Foxnews said it, so it must be true. USA! USA! USA! LOL Actually, it isn't funny. /sigh
All media and TV are the same. You sound like a 2008 Oba-hussein a** ***ker.
I am not looking for justification. I have no dog in this fight, other than I believe it is still up to congress to deliver us to war. The only thing I'm serious about is you.., thinking it was all a sham. Now that is seriously funny.
Yea, read up on the case, the 2 'witnesses' have SINCE said Gadaffi had nothing to do with it!
there is a developed case which provides an alternate interpretation of the lockerbie bomber case.
to some, it makes as least as much sense as pardoning the guy b/c he was sick and gonna die, if you follow me, mr peabody.
pea, you're not trying to paint sheepdog as a 'cheerleader for Gaddafi' are you? Better watch it or he'll 'Galloway' you.
Great, now I need a "Scotland is not the USA" t-shirt to add to the collection I started yesterday.
greece is not ireland!
I hear he has sex with sheep too,
Oh yea.., that. Well, he means besides that!
Everyone knows unless you live under a rock that it was the CIA that did that ,Gaddaffi took the rap thats why we had to pay him 20 Billion for him to keep quite
yup. that one.
He was in the wrong place (Libya has oil) at the wrong time (Odumbass needs a distraction). 'bout all I can come up with.
Dont forget Gadaffi was about to unleash a powerful gold backed currency.
Not us... the central banksters, and what he did was stockpile billions in gold bullion. Gee, I wonder what will happen to that gold once he is crushed?
He may not be crushed at all. After all, they said this would be a 48 hour war. 4 months later, Gadaffi's resilience is way more than they planned for. NATO now whining theyre out of money and bombs. Walking a thin line here! VERY thin!
True, problem, reaction, solution though right? We all know the solution to that problem is a ground invasion too. He had better hide better than Saddam did however.
Like we "crushed" Sadam and Iraq? Yeah, that worked out great. His family took all the gold to Jordan while we hung out for a decade and wasted a cool trillion and a few thousand US lives rebuilding all teh shit we blew up with million dolalr bombs. War has nothging to do with "winning", rather everything to do with money!
Must have been selling his oil in non USDs... fool, look what happened to Saddam!
Worse.
One seldom mentioned fact by western politicians and media pundits: the Central Bank of Libya is 100% State Owned. Currently, the Libyan government creates its own money, the Libyan Dinar, through the facilities of its own central bank. Few can argue that Libya is a sovereign nation with its own great resources, able to sustain its own economic destiny. One major problem for globalist banking cartels is that in order to do business with Libya, they must go through the Libyan Central Bank and its national currency, a place where they have absolutely zero dominion or power-broking ability.
http://21stcenturywire.com/2011/03/28/globalist-target-the-central-bank-of-libya-is-100-state-owned/
I suppose people could learn a lot about you by your definition of the word "us".
It would help people differentiate between you and say... a pile of fresh corn-laden excrement.
It's WWIII regardless.
Actually, Libya in particular is probably just a "bank robbery." Where bank is the banksters and robbery is them robbing Libya of their 300 billion in gold reserves that they hold IN COUNTRY. Someone is going to get that after all.
Also note that the oil libya has is the highly sought light sweet that Saudi Arabia is not able to produce nearly as much of these days.
War for economic reasons? Nahhh... it's about a plane bombing and "terrorists!" har har
All that pecker wagging and the vote wasn't even close. What a bunch of impotent idiots.
So, a 123-295 vote is classified as "largely along party lines", and yet back in the day only a single defector from the Red team was necessary to turn any legislative proposal into a "bipartisan consensus".
Behold! The right-down-the-middle editorial genius of al-Reuters.
Go Gaddafi, GO!
Remember this was supposed to be over in 2 days according to Gates and Obama, within 48 hours of the big Tomahawk missile strike, they said Gaddafi would step down. 4 months later....
Go Gaddafi, GO!
He is to entrenched, they will need more then air power to get him.
Yes more power needed than all NATO could muster, as NATO now says theyre out of money and bombs, countries withdrawing, now time to ramp it up. Very thin ice.
Check it out, Obama is the head of NATO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2Ik7-u_YOY
Mojo Rising indeed.
So far Gaddaffy has outlasted Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, and what are the odds he is still in charge after Obama is gone.
That is amazing enough but even more amazing, he has been in the news for over 40 years and they still don't know how to spell his name.
give us your oil...
or we kill your son
and grand children...
Barack Obama's former supporter, America's most well-known Muslim preacher, Louis Farrakhan, on the Libya bombing and Obama himself.
Amazing intensity here, especially the few seconds starting about 4:40 ... the lead-in to when Farrakhan shouts:
« That's a MURDERER in the White House! Who will say It? I will! Because I have a POWER behind me that is bringing America to judgement as we speak ... »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oqkc0xtLTb8
Minister Farrakhan: "That's A Murderer In The White House!"
Yep! And everyone going along with the mass murderer in chief is guilty of the same.
Minister Farrakhan isn't afraid to speak truth to TPTB.
+1
Funny how the Dem scum here will junk you if you say anything bad about the Kenyan marxist.
Change I can believe in!
No more WAR!
Now MULTIWAR!
a Nobel Peace Prize Two-fer
In other news, Columbo has passed-on: http://wireupdate.com/wires/18388/columbo-actor-peter-falk-dies-at-83/
RIP.
That's sad I love Columbo and Mr. Falk. Here is a classic of Falk in character at a Dean Martin Roast:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuevpFTS_po
+1
mission accompilshed.
It thought Pentagon never cares about what Congress does. Pentagon will wage wars at it's will. They just rename it as "non-war" or some other lame terms.
US will have boots in Lybia. Because US bankers and Oil companies will not want European to have the oil contracts after Lybia is freed. So, US will have a major role.
Then there is another build up on the Iran-Israel conflicts. We will "do something" per Israeli request. That will of course not labeled as "war".
And then in July, US will have a join military drill with Vietnam. Yes, with the communist Vietnam. Right now, there is tension between Vietnam and China. And when China is involve, US will step in, regardless whom we may befriend with.
Anyway, freeing up 30K soldiers in Afghan won't means jack. They are just sent to another location for another operation. We are burning 500 mil everyday for operation in Afghan. Don't expect it will ever be reduced.
All Hail the Bankster/Military Industrial Complex
The War Department will not be denied.....
BP's attitude is Libya is their property. BP aka Rothschild & Co.
Nobel price for humanity.
200 Drone attacks in Pakistan to date.........war or not?
Ask the family members of the innocent villagers who get murdered in the process what they think.
Yep when a US bomb blows up your house and your family, suddenly it seems like a war. To us? Americans just still downloading apps for x raying Kardashians ass....things much more abstract for americans....for a little while longer.
What a cuntry!
War against the Middle class
War on terror
Afghanistan
Iraq
Yeman
Pakistan
Libya
soon in Syria
and all leading right up to Iran....
The War Department has gone full blown Retard
and lets not forget the War on the American Public (Homeland Security)
We are also in Bahrain. Amen brother
Is this Kardashian app new? I haven’t seen that one yet.
Evidently the best way to fight war on terror is to create a catalyst and anti-American sentiment to expose a new generation of Middle Easterners who have grown up experiencing the Red, White & Blue bombs of peace. Surely this has not been creating a new generation of terrorists on the horizon.
You're only against it because Obama is doing it. It's painfully obvious you all have no convictions just knee-jerk reactions based on Rs and Ds. So should we just let al-qaeda run wild? WTF! If Obama loses, I bet a million bucks that if a war is started with Iran, you will br crying about they can't have nukes and lambasting everyone who disagreees with you as unamerican. This goes for most on this particular thread. What a joke. I have no idea who you people are and frankly don't care, but I'd guess you are the type of assholes who, if you even try to have fun, ruin that fun for evryone else on a friday night at a bar ranting about obummer or wtever insutling name you think is clever. BTW, I defended Bush against these same types of knee-jerk reactions from the clowns on the other side of the coin.
You decry partisan talk and then spout it. I see a simpleton with a small IQ.
So why is it with Syria mowing down protestors that we not embarking on a "humanitarian" mission to topple their government?
Could it be that they have 5% of the oil that Libya has in proven reserves?
Troops shoot at Syrian protesters, 16 killed
Nahhh. It's all about ideology
It's coming........all to isolate Iran.......
There's this country I call Russia. Maybe you have heard of them.
I understand the language, from the House GOP: If you would have rushed a bill through, before we had time to read it, and debate it, and even called it something it really wasn't, like a no-fly zone, in other words if you had lied to us after we have given you authority, that would be okay, but now you have lied before the authority was given, and we can't sanction lies which have already been told, just lies which you are going to tell.
Now the Democratic minority must stand up for these lies the President told, "its a no fly zone, we are helping civilians,e tc) We didn't know they were lies when we told them, (our fingers were crossed).
We were finding out all the facts, and rather than rush into war blindly, without knowing, we took the time to examine the situation, and now we need your authorization (post dated) to grant the President authority to do what he has already done, which is find out the facts. Once Bush had the facts on Saddam that situation resolved itself pretty quickly, however it was not managed properly, which we promise to do this time.
5 war fronts????
Tyler, not sure if you saw it best Mexico sent troops into the United States yesterday........
Dry run??
5 war fronts????
Tyler, not sure if you saw it best Mexico sent troops into the United States yesterday........
Dry run??
It's coming back around again?
This is just jacked up, WTF. Maybe I should start behaving like all the people I try to enlighten, then I might not get so upset.
I know some guy who is always trying to enlighten people. I call it something else: unwanted conversations and/or propagandizing to make people in your image. What makes your views so enlightened. And why are the people who don't want to hear your enlightenment somehow benneath you?