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How Capitalism Went On A Brief Sabbatical Which Became A Permanent Vacation: Rosenberg Explains "The Artificial Recovery"

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There is little if anything that can be added to the latest commentary from the original skeptic.

Indeed, this 2009-2011 recovery and cyclical bull market has been as artificial as the 2003-07 expansion. That last one was fuelled by financial engineering in the financial sector. This one is being underpinned by unprecedented government intrusion in the credit markets. As of this quarter, your government has replaced the private sector as the largest source of outstanding mortgage market and consumer-related credit (see front page of the Investor's Business Daily). So not only is the U.S.A. turning Japanese in many respects, it is also now resembling China where the government also redirects the flow of private sector credit.

When we said capitalism went on a sabbatical three years ago, we didn't expect this to be a permanent vacation. In the past five years, private sector loans have deflated by $1.9 trillion, while public sector assisted credit has surged a similar amount. Roughly nine in 10 dollars of mortgage flow is being dominated by the Federal government — Fannie Mae, Ginnie Mae, Freddie Mac, and the FHA. That is amazing, and these entities have actually been tightening their scorecards to avoid political taxpayer backlash.

Be that as it may, in this new era of socialized credit, the private sector now accounts for 42% of outstanding residential mortgages, down from nearly 60% at the bubble peak in 2006. The only reason why consumer credit has not shown a complete implosion is because in the past three years, federally- assisted student loans have soared by $250 billion.

But not even the government can prevent credit from retrenching — the best it can do is cushion the blow. The front page of the weekend WSJ runs with an article on the aftershocks of the credit collapse — Tighter Lending Crimps Housing. Credit applications are still being rejected at a rapid rate.

About 20% of new home loan applications have been refused this year, up from 18% in 2010; 27% of refinancing requests have been turned down, up from 24%. And if you need any proof as to how this is playing out in the consumer space, have a look at Property Investors Face Losing Their Shirts with Strip Malls on page C14 of the WSJ. The low-income consumer that tends to shop at strip centers has been completely hobbled by weak job market conditions and punishingly high food and gas prices this cycle. Somehow the benefits from QE1 and QE2 bypassed the $50,000 and lower income club, and this group represents half of the U.S. consumer spending pie, for all the talk of Coach, Tiffany's, and Saks for much of the past 24 months.

The WSJ emphasizes the implications of the on-going deleveraging cycle on the front page of today's paper — Debit Hamstrings Recovery. It is so obvious that as much as the government tries to slow the process, it cannot prevent the private sector from healing itself after decades of tremendous credit excess. U.S. consumers have 30% more credit card and other revolving debt on their balance sheet than they did just a decade ago. While outstandings are down 6% from the peak, there is still considerable contractions to go before household debt levels revert to the mean relative to both income and assets. At the same time, an estimated 23% of mortgages are "underwater" and it is against this backdrop that home-equity and credit lines have almost completely dried up. The necessity of climbing out from under this unprecedented amount of debt-related stress means that interest rates are very likely going to remain near the floor for a very long time. Ben Bernanke may publicly state that "extended period" means over the next few FOMC meetings, but anyone with a sense of history knows that they will stay close to zero for years to come.

And whoever thought we'd be seeing headlines like this, four years after the initial detonation in the U.S. housing market — Lennar Profit Slides 65% on page B8 of the weekend WSJ. Incredible. Revenues are down 6.1% YoY, margins are still compressing and order books are flat.

Source: David Rosenberg, Gluskin Sheff

 


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Mon, 06/27/2011 - 21:38 | Link to Comment jtz5
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@Tyler-

 

A great interview with David Stockman...may be worthy of its' own article/forum.

 

http://investmentwatchblog.com/david-stockman-ben-bernanke-is-finished/

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 21:45 | Link to Comment mynhair
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I junked you for being first, and having no "capitalism, bitchez".

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 22:21 | Link to Comment molecool
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I junked you for being an infantile dick.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 00:23 | Link to Comment Hulk
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Good video, but Kiyosaki just told the world he has guns, gold,cash and food at his house. Not smart at all...

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 02:19 | Link to Comment FlyPaper
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The Rich-Dad-Poor-Dad guys have been talking about this for a long time.   Why the stampede now?  

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 12:27 | Link to Comment Atlas Shrieked
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I've been long gold since 1998, and silver since 2008, post-Lehman, so I've been lucky with PM's.  But wasn't Kirosaki advising people to flip real estate in the 2000's?

That's not enough of a contrarian indicator for me to sell my PM's, but I would not take his advice as gospel.  Like most marketeers to the masses, he profits more from selling his advice to suckers.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 02:23 | Link to Comment Hedge Jobs
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thanks for link. Great interview. Cant work out why you would get junked for posting a link on failed cpaitalism in relation to a post on failed capitalsim.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 05:24 | Link to Comment UK debt marsh
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"The Wall Street Blackberry Panic of 2008".

I love it!

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 08:40 | Link to Comment AbbeBrel
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A Blackberry Panic - yes this could happen again !   Great term by Stockman in the video.

It isn't until I read Cohan's "House of Cards" that I fully got how incestously the investment banking community opportunity operates, and how dependent they are on the overnight repo function.   Once that dried up, mostly from an acceleration in the deterioration of trust, the Bear was dead in a week.

If China stops covering the bad debt in the Euroland (and the US) then we could be in for another rapid deterioration of trust, leading to asset dumping, while the banksters watch their iPhones in horror.

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 21:36 | Link to Comment mynhair
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What's Capitalism?  Think I read about it once, in a galaxy far,far away...

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 21:43 | Link to Comment Michael
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"What's Capitalism?  Think I read about it once, in a galaxy far,far away"

It's now called Fascist Feudalism. Get it strait.

Finally someone is recognizing what the so called recovery really is, as I have been referring to it for quite some time, Artificial.

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 21:44 | Link to Comment Xibalba
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Corporatist Communism....every banker gets a bonus.  NO QUESTIONS ASKED!!

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 21:54 | Link to Comment Caviar Emptor
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...And everyone's terrified they might hear the dreaded words: "No bailout for you!!!"

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 23:45 | Link to Comment Oh regional Indian
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CE, notice a curious thing.

Bail Out = BO

Baaa Obaaaa = BO

I think this is beyond a passing case of serendipity or synchronicity, don't you think?

Oh, and no BO for you!

ORI

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 23:54 | Link to Comment blindman
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who needs capital when you have a technology called
the printing press. just print the capital, it is so
much easier. or better yet just punch it into the
digital file then convince the idiot on the street
that he has to pay for it with his life, the system
works until it doesn't!

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 21:40 | Link to Comment Rodent Freikorps
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For the duration of the crisis...

All the old shit is new again.

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 21:44 | Link to Comment BayAreaAlan
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The problem with entering into evil is sometimes you forget to exit.

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 21:47 | Link to Comment mynhair
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You dated her, too?  Dam....

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 21:47 | Link to Comment KennyG09
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Capitalism died in 1913.

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 22:24 | Link to Comment ub40onlyonce
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True, and they said the men in black were the fools of American society:

[In a 1961 IRS press release, the IRS recognized the Amish stance that "Social Security payments, in their opinion, are insurance premiums and not taxes. They, therefore, will not pay the ‘premium’ nor accept any of the benefits."]

http://www.amishnews.com/amisharticles/amishss.htm

As a reminder of the ten (10) planks of the Communist Manifesto:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2111871/posts

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 06:14 | Link to Comment JuicedGamma
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The Amish, with horse and buggy, and no electricity have a website? Who would have ever thunk it?

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 06:37 | Link to Comment falak pema
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do they provide women and booze? for body heat generation!

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 23:47 | Link to Comment Oh regional Indian
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Capitalism died long before that Kenny. Long long before that.

ORI

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2010/06/09/capital-and-other-isms/

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 06:37 | Link to Comment falak pema
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Maybe its correct to say American style Oligarchic MONETARY capitalism was born in 1913.

As for the birth of the concept of capitalism per se : 1848, the Communist manifesto. Marx is the first philosopher who recognises that the capitalist means of production have created new paradigm in society : the industrial age.

He proposes class war and proletarian dictatorship as solution. So one can't say capitalism died at its inception. It transmutes itself, like today; it is now totally in the hands of a feudal, international, transnational oligarchy.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 07:49 | Link to Comment Oh regional Indian
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Falak, monetary capitalism has always been the primarily understood meaning of capitalism. I'm not an econ. PhD, but from what I understand capitalism is merely the most efficient allocation of resources (capital, which used to be primarily monetary, but is now Human Cattle, I mean capital too).

Nice, pure, unadulterated. 

Back then.

Like you said, and like all of our other institutions, it went from hallowed to hollowed.

And just to clarify, I loosely associate capitalism with the industrial revolution. Equal opportunity cancers.

ORI

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 21:49 | Link to Comment RockyRacoon
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The taste of free money will be hard to eradicate from the maws of bankers.

Now that they've tasted blood, the free market picnic is over.

Wait til the politicians find out how inflation solves all their (immediate) problems!

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 21:46 | Link to Comment Mercury
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When we said capitalism went on a sabbatical three years ago, we didn't expect this to be a permanent vacation.

At this point Obama is pretty much the inverse of Calvin Coolidge: 

The business of America is government.

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 21:48 | Link to Comment mynhair
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Not if I can affect it.  (Screw you that want to change to infect.)

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 21:54 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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Can we export that for a profit?

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 21:58 | Link to Comment Mercury
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Could we have Goldman design and internationally market a CDO of select American government programs and politicians...and then short the crap out of it ??

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 22:04 | Link to Comment Caviar Emptor
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Would you settle for a Franklin Mint set of commemorative coins celebrating the bailout program alphabet soup of 2008-10? With national parks on the reverse? TARP, TALF, TSLF, TAF, PDCF, AMLF, FSP, PPIP, CPFF......

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 22:20 | Link to Comment Mercury
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The kitsch value alone on those would be substantial, especially if they were cast in pure aluminum.

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 21:56 | Link to Comment Caviar Emptor
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Good ole Cal. Who woulda guessed a Depression was just around the corner

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 00:10 | Link to Comment tiger7905
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Charles Nenner Interview, still calling for 5000 DOW, getting back into gold.

http://goldandsilverlinings.com/?p=1339

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 21:55 | Link to Comment Corn1945
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ZIRP is the worst of all the scams. You earn 1% (if you are lucky) on your money while Bernanke promises he will devalue your cash by at least 2%. It is destroying savers, senior citizens, and anyone who wants to save to start a business or own a home.

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 23:11 | Link to Comment Widowmaker
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You are absolutely correct.  That is the heart of "heads I win, tails you lose" systemic risk dripping with moral hazard blessed by the best incorporated Congress police state money can buy.  (you get the idea)

Thank Bush, "mission accomplished."

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 23:20 | Link to Comment snowball777
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Highly-dependent on your medium for saving, methinks.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 10:53 | Link to Comment cranky-old-geezer
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You earn 1% (if you are lucky) on your money while Bernanke promises he will devalue your cash by at least 2%.

Yes, this is Bernokio's plan for destroying the middle class ...and it's going along quite well too.

Actually that's not entirely accurate.  Bernokio doesn't care about the middle class one way or the other.

Bernokio is looting America, passing America's wealth to the federal government and Wall Street.  That's what he's really doing.  

Everybody's being looted, not just the middle class.  It's every class ...except Wall Street elite of course.

ZIRP, TARP, TALF, QE, POMO, etc.  These are methods Bernokio uses to loot America.

It boils down to printing currency and giving it to insider cronies, which debases the currency (the dollars in your paycheck, in your pocket, in your savings account, in your CDs, in your money market fund, in your pension fund, in your 401k, in your IRA, etc).

It's called monetary inflation.  Which will lead to monetary hyperinflation eventually.  It always does.

The ONLY way to prevent Bernokio looting YOUR wealth is get it out of US dollars and into something else, like PMs or some other physical asset  ...except real estate of course.

At $33.60 silver is an incredible bargain. It should be $150 right now. 

When (not if, when) the US dollar collapses and loses WRC status, silver will rocket to hundreds of dollars per ounce.  And many other physical assets will likewise rocket up against the dollar.

GOLD-USD will take off.

FOOD-USD will take off.

GAS-USD will take off.

AMMO-USD will take off.

JACKDANIELS-USD will take off.

These are markets Bernokio can't manipulate and suppress with naked shorting.

These are things Bernokio can't print on a printing press till they're worthless ...like he can US dollars.

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 22:02 | Link to Comment mynhair
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The most fun of pounding the pavement for a candidate is having the voter list.

It has Dim and R registered, and their voting history, ie. elections they showed up for.

Total hoot to go to a Dim address and pitch conservative, though a lot now agree, but when you hit a rabid moron, you get to go to the neighbors and talk about the rabid moron next door.  Meet & greet at its finest.

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 22:37 | Link to Comment chipshot
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smile and wave....nice one

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 22:14 | Link to Comment centerline
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Ooooh,  serial junking again.  Must be a disgruntled public sector employee from a previous thread who just realized that pension money is already vaporized.

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 22:42 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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Even someone as dialed in and aware as Rosenberg carried some hope that the insanity would end and the bad guys would be ousted if not locked away behind bars. False hopes die hard and Rosenberg is spiraling in for a really rough landing.

This is one of the reasons the thieves get away with murder. Not only are average Joe's bargaining with denial, but people with influence and those in authority as well are all waiting for Superman to show up and save the day. It just keep going on, it just can't get worse than this. But of course it does and it can and we are always the last to admit it.

Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 22:27 | Link to Comment buzzsaw99
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...anyone with a sense of history knows that they will stay close to zero for years to come. ZIRP 4 EVAH BITCHEZ!

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 22:31 | Link to Comment Juice Box
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Zirp is prolonging this recession.  At these rates and with the Fed Bond put protection in place, no one has any desire to risk lending their money.  Higher rates would actually flush money out of its cold storage.  When rates are finally allowed to rise to a normal and natural level, then and only then will we see progress. 

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 05:44 | Link to Comment LudwigVon
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...then and only then will we see: significantpriceinflation

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 22:56 | Link to Comment Caviar Emptor
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Interestingly, US Gov bailouts began under a Republican presidency. And the biggest of all the bailouts were also all under GOP presidents! 

1970 and 1971: Penn Central Railroad and Lockheed started it all under Tricky Dicky. He was the first to cross the line. And the very first Government bank bailout of 'em all: Franklin National Bank in 1974. 

During the Reagan administration, the huge Continental Illinois Bank bailout happened in 1984 ($9.5 billion), followed by the mega huge S&L bailouts of 1989-1994 (Bush Sr) ($293 billion). 

Then under Bush Jr came Bear Stearns ($30 billion), Fannie/Freddie ($400 billion), AIG ($180 billion) and TARP ($700 billion). We do know that Citi, BAC, and other large non-financials deemed TBTF received bailout loan guarantees and access to Fed programs. 

Dems? Jimmy Carter had the distinction of being the first to bail Chrysler ($4 billion), and Obama officiated the GM bailout ($130 billion) (although Bush Jr extended the first $25 billion in 2008) and final Citi ($220 billion) and BAC deals ($118 billion)

Guess this is what it means to be "Pro Business" 

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 22:38 | Link to Comment Westcoastliberal
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Love the Stockman interview.  It's an all-time classic and so weird to hear these words coming from anyone credible, even a reformed Reaganite.

We need a reset, a jubilee.  Hell, the CDS's will not wind up paying off, so since this market is 10x the GDP of the entire world, can't we just wipe out all debt?  If not, why not? Give me one reason, beetches!

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 23:49 | Link to Comment essence
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A  reset/debt jubliee likely means system meltdown. In other words, anarchy interspered with pockets of martial law, or vise versa. This period of disarray could potentially form a feedback loop resulting in ....tada TEOTAWKI.

How many of you are prepared to live without credit? How many business owners, Governments? How many retirees are prepared to have their pensions suddenly drop out from underneath them? A worldwide default would have everyone gunshy about being a lender for a decade or however long it takes for greed to overcome memory.  So, while a default/juliee seems attactive on the surface, just realize the entirely of the ramifications.

Note how all the countries (except small/isolated Iceland) have pulled back from the brink each time they get close, despite all the chickenhawks out there (somewhere else) crying out for them to default and be the guinee pigs in facing the full wrath of the banksters.

Don't get me wrong, not that I'm against a 'reset'. But I have no dependents and spend most of my spare time thesedays working on my escape plan. The bulk of the population has no plan B.

It could very well be that a pyrrhic victory is the only option left to dislodge the banking cabals grip on government and the economy. Just be mindful of what you call for and be prepared to walk the walk when the time comes.

 

 

 

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 01:28 | Link to Comment MacGruber
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I for one welcome a reset. I think as bad as it would get it would never be as terrible as people think. The American people have been cowed for so long, we would probably suffer quietly through the worst of it. How much anarchy can you really have with a country full of fat office working diabetics?

There must be a reset to clear the path for a new horizon. The politicians are owned. The capital of the country is wrapped up in the top 10%. Life is never fair, but the direction we're headed in doesn't even promise a base level of financial freedom. Not to say that capitalism wouldn't re-devolve as it has over the last 30-40 years, but at least if we start again we could have a better chance to get it right.

Fear of change and failure are natural. Bravery is an unnatural response to that fear. I for one think the average person has it within them to muster that response.

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 22:47 | Link to Comment Re-Discovery
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What was this thing called 'Capitalism'?

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 23:17 | Link to Comment snowball777
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A highly-intricate method of scorekeeping that some people have been known to mistake for reality.

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 22:55 | Link to Comment AssFire
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Atlas has shrugged bitchez..I work 4 days (about 16 hrs per week). I won't take any orders that would require more workers. I spend much of the time fighting tax appraisals and various assaults from the Goobermints (Local, State and Fed). Think I want to do anything to expand in this atmosphere of oppression and uncertainty??  I'll vacation and reduce my salary to just under whatever the Goobamint of Amerika deems rich. Fuck it.

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 22:57 | Link to Comment jal
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The banking capitalist are more powerful than ever. Look what they forced the gov. to do for them.

"This one is being underpinned by unprecedented government intrusion in the credit markets. As of this quarter, your government has replaced the private sector as the largest source of outstanding mortgage market and consumer-related credit"

Put the blame where it belongs.

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 23:06 | Link to Comment kito
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230 billion to save a corporation that destroyed japan..

78 billion to save the lives of ten of thousands of people who were destroyed by the corporation..

 

 

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-27/japan-considers-230-billion-yen-for-tepco-aid.html

 

 

 

 

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 23:18 | Link to Comment snowball777
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That's capitalism for ya.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 00:01 | Link to Comment Oh regional Indian
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Leaves you shaking your head in disgust, eh Kito?

Saving a corporation is more important than saving humans. 

And you're talking about TEPCO, what about GE?

ORI

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 04:11 | Link to Comment Slipmeanother
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You guys are too cynical, all Corps have in their mission statemetns: PEOPLE ARE ARE MOST VALUABLE RESOURCE soo it must be true now STFU

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 04:12 | Link to Comment Slipmeanother
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You guys are too cynical, all Corps have in their mission statements (oops): PEOPLE ARE ARE OUR MOST VALUABLE RESOURCE soo it must be true now STFU

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 06:03 | Link to Comment Incubus
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I'm not surprised.  The only time "the people" matter is when it's time for elections, and in wartime.

You know, you have to get those people feeling all special so they can run off and kill other people who don't matter to their own governments. I'm not religious, but there is no fairness in this world: if there was a purgatory, I'd hate to imagine what it'd be like with just the plain old world being such a bitch.

And I'd really hope there's a place for a lot of these parasites and exploiters to burn--to pay for their actions in life.

 

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 23:13 | Link to Comment Dirtt
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I read a Merrill Lynch "internal" research report back in late 2007 which was authored by Rosenberg. I knew a Merrill client that had just gotten rubbed into a bullish frenzy.  I'd tried to tell them that everyone inside Merrill knew hell was on the horizon.

If you take key points from the '07 Merrill "internal" and overlap it with '11 Gluskin Sheff 'external' you will have a match. By the fall of 2007 I had been stewing in David Tice's words from late 2006.  Couple Tice Stew with my own proprietary research in mid-2006 in CA called The "HOW the (profanity) is everyone paying for this (profanity)" Report and Rosie's '07 internal was like a perfect pitch over the plate.

Who could forget Dr. Doom melting down on Bloomberg when asked about growth or recession? Spitting, disheveled Doom turning spastic trying to get the D-word out in 14 different languages was a priceless moment in my history. 

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 23:17 | Link to Comment I am Jobe
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WWIII Bitchezzz. Only way for the USA to avoid the depression and let the sheeples beleive in the fairy tale.
Obama Launching World War III

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOhzRZOOMiU&feature=player_embedded

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 05:50 | Link to Comment LudwigVon
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You mean Nobel Peace War II ?

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 06:10 | Link to Comment Incubus
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War is Peace

Ignorance is Strength

Freedom is Slavery

 

--kind of funny how one wouldn't understand the meaning of that statement when 1984 was required reading in schools... Give a person a few years—and if they're reasonably perceptive—they now understand it all too well.

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 23:30 | Link to Comment chump666
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Ratings agencies gonna query that nutty french plan to rollover Greek toxic waste, which is a form of restructure with the French taxpayers underwriting the bankers.

Europe is a mess

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 23:32 | Link to Comment chump666
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from FT,can't cut and paste...sorry

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 01:04 | Link to Comment glenlloyd
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they're still gonna call it a default, that is unless enough promises are made and money changes hands...which is gonna piss me off.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 00:11 | Link to Comment bigwavedave
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face it. yanks have a fiat valuation of themselves. 

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 00:15 | Link to Comment Bansters-in-my-...
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What a fucking sick goverment.

Let the Banksters run the show.........

And the Banksters even have their own military,what a fucking sick country.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 00:24 | Link to Comment Milton Waddams
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LTCM kicked the can to the investment banks, the investment banks kicked the can to the Federal Reserve, the Federal Reserve will kick the can to the U.S. government, and the U.S. government will kick the can to some supranational organization that will attempt to - under the pretense of the entire world being swallowed up should the US default - "spread the losses around" while maintaining some semblance of the status quo.  This is bubblenomics 101; profit on the ever expanding pool of liabilities but offload the inevitable risk on the TBTFist institution.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 00:27 | Link to Comment SilverDoctors
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Texas senate passed the TSA Anti-Groping Bill Today...
http://silverdoctors.blogspot.com/2011/06/texas-senate-passes-tsa-anti-g...

Think the watered down version will still be effective at stopping the TSA thugs?

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 10:08 | Link to Comment cranky-old-geezer
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The best way to stop TSA thugs is don't fly.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 00:57 | Link to Comment Perseid.Rocks
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> Roughly nine in 10 dollars of mortgage flow is being dominated by the Federal government — Fannie Mae, Ginnie Mae, Freddie Mac, and the FHA.

This is what our founding fathers had in mind yes ? Government providing all the money... private sector loaning their money at their own risk.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 08:34 | Link to Comment Mad Cow
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The Federal Reserve.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 02:16 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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Rosie ROCKS.

All the talk and follow on action relating to "necessary intervention" to keep finance from imploding with a very hard landing without using the time purchased with that intervention to engineer a clean up of the financial sector has only served to create the conditions for an even harder landing.

Brilliant

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 04:58 | Link to Comment Bohemian Clubber
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Britney released a new song this week for all of you clubber bitchezzz

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 05:51 | Link to Comment LudwigVon
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Worth less without a link.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 07:03 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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  Here comes that (dxy) h/s headfake on the h-1 chart!  neckline 75.76 area unweighted.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 11:01 | Link to Comment cranky-old-geezer
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DXY is worthless.

It compares one near-worthless currency to other near-worthless currencies, tracking which one is getting worthless faster ...or slower ...whichever way you look at it.

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