How The Fed Sourced 83.4% Of Treasury Cash Needs Since The Start Of QE2

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Sun, 04/03/2011 - 16:32 | 1130314 Highrev
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Sun, 04/03/2011 - 17:48 | 1130494 asteroids
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You folks had better check your money market funds!

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 19:46 | 1130736 euclidean
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Classic Keynesian debt structuring is all this amounts to. Place all your debt in the lowest yields - the US Treasury are the genius so far.

Since people have been/still are calling for an end to the Fed Res - what is to say this isn't the Fed winding itself down to a zero balance sheet? Thus leaving the US taxpayer with a lump of low yield worthless paper when they close the doors once the SDR is shoved down your throats.

The Fed Res does not have to sell it's bond holdings. It might simply hang onto them until maturity. You know their is no gold inside - that's funded the dividend payments of the Class A shareholders.

What happened to audit the Fed program? Bernanke will hand the Fed over when it's worth nothing ... oops, too late. Maybe his successor will turn it all around.

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 20:23 | 1130817 disabledvet
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like i called it:  "the fireman who's a pyro" problem.  "then he comes to the rescue!"

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 20:25 | 1130823 metastar
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Yes, the SDR will save us. We yield our sovereignty (like we still actually have it) in return for fresh fiat trash to enslave us.

A country which does not control its currency does not control its destiny.

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 16:35 | 1130324 slow_roast
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Why doesn't the Fed just start printing Euros?  Swiss Francs? 

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 16:39 | 1130337 Sudden Debt
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because they first want to use up those stocks on green ink.


Sun, 04/03/2011 - 20:29 | 1130828 disabledvet
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btw--where's the phucking thank you you mighty Belgium Ale you?  Who knew secret doses of Chimay could cause American Bankers to give you so much money!  Those clever monks!

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 19:33 | 1130696 eddiebe
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They do via the oil in dollars scam.

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 16:37 | 1130331 duncecap rack
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They will tighten for a month or so to flush the speculative longs down the toilet. Then they will start a new period of devaluation with the big banks reaping the last of the fruits of the nations past.

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 16:38 | 1130332 Sudden Debt
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And now that the 2012 election roadconshows will start, new promises will need to be made that will cost trillions more.




Sun, 04/03/2011 - 17:27 | 1130410 knukles
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Paying all my bills'd be nice, but 1 job'd be enough, thank you.  I'm not supposed to be the last guy supporting all the government employees.  Insidious, he is, heh?.

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 19:44 | 1130734 Long-John-Silver
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We'll need 200K jobs when bread costs $100.

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 16:40 | 1130333 Turd Ferguson
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How it is that virtually no one seems to grasp this?

Let me state this very clearly:



Sun, 04/03/2011 - 16:45 | 1130350 Sudden Debt
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I really don't think people understand what kind of shit America and Europe are in (we're pretty much connected to the FED to so it seems).

There is no way out. In the near future, our economies will crash, burn and evaporate.

Unless the find a way to turn crap into gold.


Sun, 04/03/2011 - 17:18 | 1130431 Mr Anderson
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Every time a dairy cow craps. It is spread back on the field to feed said dairy cow-

You drink the milk of the cow. Dairy owner trades your 4 dollar gall of milk for 1/360th oz of gold.

So as you can see crap does become gold.

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 17:31 | 1130461 Mr Anderson
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Did I mention that the State Govt requires the crap to be spread on the field. Further if the spread crap gets into the river the Govt fines Mr. Dairyman.

So crap becomes gold and crap becomes Govt gold.

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 20:28 | 1130832 disabledvet
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Sun, 04/03/2011 - 16:47 | 1130351 RockyRacoon
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I believe you are correct Massah Turd.  It won't be called QEIII or anything else.  It won't be announced nor touted.  The Tea Party folks will need cover in this project.  It must go on, so it will.  The methods will be uncovered here on the pages of ZH but the lumpen proletariat and the MSM will be clueless.

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 17:20 | 1130440 Mr Anderson
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Which is why we the people have to ensure the FED's printing is known the day it loans money rather than 2 years later. A simple choice- keep your accounts open and available, or we revoke your charter!

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 16:49 | 1130353 JonTurk
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even pausing for a month will take silver down at least %30

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 17:35 | 1130471 Bastiat
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Physical supply disappears before you get halfway there.

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 18:24 | 1130560 Snidley Whipsnae
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Correct. China, Mid East, India, SE Asia, all big buyers at 30% off PMs.

Printing to continue and stand by for massive inflation, crash in equties, more crashing in CRE and Res RE. A shit storm, iows.

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 19:48 | 1130742 Long-John-Silver
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Only crumbs of physical Silver remains.

Today's spike is tomorrows dip.

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 16:53 | 1130364 unky
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what i really dont understand is that they have 1000 ways of funneling money arround. the fed could give it to private banks or other countires banks/institutions who in turn could buy treasuries. why do they make this ponzi scheme so obvious, why not more hidden?

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 17:15 | 1130416 NOTaREALmerican
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Why hide something if the marks aren't smart enough to notice what is going on?     The smart people that are participating in the scam need it to be an open one.    They are ripping off the dumbass peasants, they'll never figure out who screwed them.  

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 18:09 | 1130528 RockyRacoon
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Yup.   It's 3 card monty -- done right under your own nose.

Only another crook knows the trick.  The mark remains clueless.

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 18:26 | 1130563 Snidley Whipsnae
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Keynes put it best... 'Not one man in a million understands...'

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 16:59 | 1130373 Reese Bobby
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I agree with Turd, (four words I never expected to string together).

However, this analysis is great.  I'm sure Zimbabwe Ben will use these charts in his King's Speech this week...

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 17:02 | 1130382 deez nutz
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QE can't end? wanna bet?  .................WAR!!   Those islamic sons o bitcheZ are gonna pay dearly!!  WATCH!!

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 18:02 | 1130520 zaknick
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Yeah but if it really comes down to war or collapse I think they'll need something truly major to distract the sheeple.

Like a nukular false flag in ur backyard, biotch!

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 19:00 | 1130614 deez nutz
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luv the "nukular" reference ...reminds of a mission accomplished moron with a daddy full of money

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 17:15 | 1130415 knukles
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Well, thank God they're not monetizing the debt!  If they were just think of the world of shit we'd be in....


Sun, 04/03/2011 - 17:40 | 1130480 saulysw
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Turd : I tell my kids that "forever" is mighty long time. See further ZH motto. Still, I take your point, and agree..z

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 17:51 | 1130500 DUNTHAT
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How could they continue with QE without calling it QE??

These bastards are up to something, because like you said, it can't end.

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 19:03 | 1130624 rocker
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'How could they continue with QE without calling it QE??'

The FED has NO Money. But they can print it.  The name applied does not matter. It all equals "Printing". Which equals devaluation of your purchasing dollar. The hidden tax on teabaggers. How else can they fund all that debt. Pay for their bloated defense budget for wars. And bailout the scumbag thieving banksters.

Someone said China will buy PM's if we get the correction, I only hope, I surely will join them with great joy for the opportunity. 

It was interesting to here the CEO from Honeywell on Bloomberg this weekend. He said the cost of industrial metals are going to go up. Such as Zinc and Aluminum.  Hello. Buy them all, including silver. It is your only way to level the playing field against the FED. Otherwise, you completely loose.

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 19:52 | 1130749 eddiebe
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They'll 'just' have to pay way higher rates to attract funding. If that doesn't work anymore they will have to link to gold.

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 20:03 | 1130774 dark pools of soros
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from drug money..  after the CIA gains control of the weed in Mexico to go with all the opium in Afghany they can print a little less dollars



Sun, 04/03/2011 - 21:00 | 1130902 TwoShortPlanks
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Sorry Turd, you are totally wrong. QE cannot go on forever, infact, the Fed has decided enough is enough and has let-go of the reigns. The Fed is more than aware that this path of QE will lead to both the inevitable collpase of the US economy AND Hyperinflation. What giving-up now means, is that they can focus soley on Inflation and let that inevitable collpase happen sooner rather than later...that's right, the Fed policy now is to "Purge the rottenness out of the system".

Everyone that touts that QE will not end are both in denial and extremely short sighted. Short sighted in that inevitable really does mean i-n-e-v-i-t-a-b-l-e!

This is what will happen:

1. The Fed will stop QE programs

2. The US Gov will default, become insolvent, ratings will be lowered and infrastructure will crumble

3. Interest Rates will climb over 18% within 1 year of QE2 ending

3. Nobody will buy US assets so there will be no foreign income

4. Stock Markets will adjust accordingly, expect Commodities to plunge except for a panic run on PMs

5. The US way of living will match that of Mexico or possibly Cuba with 2-3 years


Sun, 04/03/2011 - 21:25 | 1130954 Boston
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You're exactly right.

They can scare the shit out of everyone....and then they'll come right back with QE3.

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 21:33 | 1130972 TwoShortPlanks
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That's true, and I am 100% convinced that will happen however, eventually, the printing will end and the pain will have to be taken.

I also believe that there is no avoiding Civil War in the US either.

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 22:14 | 1131075 rufusbird
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Just wait. There will be a new presidential order stating that all Federal Reserve activities can only be commented upon by Federal Reserve Officials...

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 22:54 | 1131185 malek
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Sun, 04/03/2011 - 16:44 | 1130346 cossack55
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I know, I know, I know. Pixie dust and Hopium. TaDa!!!!

What do I win?

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 17:26 | 1130429 knukles
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Alex:  That's right, cossack!
You win a past due retroactive unconstitutional tax bill for $14,398.99, a letter will be sent to you shortly by the IRS inviting you for a free audit, and due to your effervescent smart-ass humor, an entirely unfriendly visit from a bevy of federal officers to at a minimum harass your punk ass for daring to think let alone expond un-American thoughts.

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 16:46 | 1130347 PragmaticIdealist
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FRB members have made is clear what will happen after QE2... They will simply maintain the size of the Fed's balance sheet by rolling over Treasurys (i.e. QE lite 2.0).  That's all you need to continue to monetize sufficiently; you don't need another QE.

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 17:06 | 1130385 Charles Mackay
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Don't get that.  Sure they can use the money from expiring notes/bonds to buy more notes/bonds, but the Treasury will also have to rollover everything.

The problem comes with how to finance the additional new debt - $1.4 trillion per year.

So while it is correct that the Fed can keep buying new notes/bonds with expiring notes/bonds, someone still has to buy all the incremental new debt.  Unless the Fed has a new plan, there is a huge financing hole.  Rolling over existing mortgage backed securities to Treasuries will help some, but not much.



Sun, 04/03/2011 - 17:25 | 1130451 Mr Anderson
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Yields go up to say around 10% much like Ireland or Brazil. Grandma decides golly thats a good investment. Takes that CD getting .8% for 10% treasury bill.

Thus grandma funds the govt.

Question- what happens to the bank when grandma and soroptimist friends all remove their savings to buy T-bills?


Sun, 04/03/2011 - 17:34 | 1130467 DUNTHAT
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Like Gross asks "Who is gonna buy the DebT???"

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 17:07 | 1130391 A Man without Q...
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This is not true, mainly because of the holdings are largely around 5 yr tenor.  QE lite was rolling over mortgage assets when cash received was through redemptions/refis.  

The interest paid on Treasuries is remitted back to the Treasury, so it's going to be years before they get the principal repayments do this.

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