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Huge Discrepancy In Radiation Readings In Fukushima Between Official (Semi) Disclosure And Japan Atomic Energy Agency

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While Japan has been closely guarding radiation data particularly in the most impacted Fukushima region very closely, Zero Hedge has procured a fallout map showing radiation levels in the immediate NPP vicinity. To our surprise, despite Northwesterly
winds (i.e., those blowing from that direction), the bulk of the
fallout is concentrated precisely in that direction with a reading area
30 km NorthWest (see Reading Point 21 on the map below) of the plant showing reading of up to 80 microsieverts.
What
is perplexing is that the readings by the Japan Atomic Energy Agency
(JAEA), unfortunately just two of them, differ from the official ones
Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology (MEXT) substantially. The materially higher readings reported by JAEA are notable outliers despite readings in a proximal region by MEXT indicating substantially lower readings. Is the
Ministry of Truth now directly experiments with the radioactive
tolerance of people by cutting the odd zero here and there?

Map of radiation reading points in Fukushima vicinity. Oddly, there are none in a Southwesterly direction, or towards Tokyo.

And below are the actual readings - note the levels for points 22 and 23, both 30 kms from the plant.

h/t James

 


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Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:26 | Link to Comment Tense INDIAN
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Man should always stay in his limits ....these event should remind everyone this now

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:31 | Link to Comment Sudden Debt
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Luckely we'll soon solve it with the black hole machine creating device in geneva which will solve all our energy needs!!

 

BLACK HOLES ARE NOT DANGEROUS!!

 

NOW GET ME THE FUCK OF THIS PLANET ASAP!!

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:38 | Link to Comment PY-129-20
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Well, rumour has it that there is another black hole beneath the FED building...

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:43 | Link to Comment Sudden Debt
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No, that's the bottomless deficit pit...

 

 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 10:33 | Link to Comment pragmatic hobo
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but it's a hole and it's black.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:34 | Link to Comment alpha60
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tense indian should have said that in smoke signals.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:39 | Link to Comment malikai
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If man always stayed within his limits, we would still be grunting in caves and smashing women's heads to find mates.

It is the sheer fact that we have always pushed our limits that we enjoy the sort of lives we now live.

The problem here is simple: irresponsible design criteria and failure to do a proper risk assessment in those power stations. Really, who the hell would look at the design of that facility and think its a good idea to put the only backup power source in the basement of a tsunami risk location?

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:58 | Link to Comment Going Loco
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...and store the spent fuel rods in a tank on top of the reactor with no gravity feed to replenish the water.....

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:29 | Link to Comment ibjamming
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We may be back to just that...living in caves and smashing women's heads in to find mates...  You never know what the future will bring...

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 10:00 | Link to Comment tonyw
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The 9.0 quake was offshore but would IMHO probably have been less at Fukushima, so maybe even within the 8.2 limit?
I have read that the electrical switchgear was in the basement, so not a good location for equipment anywhere there can be lots of water.
Building close together not good, but often done (e.g. see Buncefield oil storage depot) so damage from first impacts others.
The power station is cut into "cliffs" some 30m high, so it does not seem impossible to have situated the backup diesel generating equipment on top of these cliffs together with lots of water.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 10:40 | Link to Comment malikai
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Buncefiled is a great example of a failed risk assesment. Another one that comes to mind on similar lines is the 1947 Texas City disaster. Loading ANFO at a port with a refinery next door seems foolhardy to me, yet it still happens all the time to this day.

I'm an engineer in the IT world, specializing in information security. There's a reason why most serious datacenters are located in the mid floors of highrise buildings. The reasons are simple: 1. Flood risk. 2. Wind/Tornado risk (since 9/11 airplane risk). If we can postulate the possibility of these extremely rare events (#2) and address them, it seems foolish to think that a nuclear power plant, where the risk is evident, the loss is far greater, and the mitigation steps are comparatively cheap, that they should fail to take actions to mitigate. I'm really dumbfounded about it.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:31 | Link to Comment sushi
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The facilites are 40 years old. Given the lead time on the engineering of this type of project, the initial design decisions were being made 5 years earlier or circa 1965.

The world was a lot less sophisticated in 1965. Cars had steel dashboards and no seatbelts and being impaled on the steering column was an accepted hazard. Everybody smoked including doctors and teachers. Leading states were busy setting off atmospheric nuclear test each larger and dirtier than the rest and if you were in grade school you were taught that the secret to survival was to cower beneath your desk.

Find a magazine from that period and you will see a world in love with things nuclear. It would produce power too cheap to meter, defend everybody, correct every possible social defect. Products were designed to look "atomic" in some way and the nuclear symbol popped up everywhere. It was totally cool.

Fifty years from now folks will look back on the current generation and fail to understand how they could so blindly poision the planet, so easily pave and destroy prime agricultural land and attempt to build a civilization based on non-renewable energy sources.

 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 14:01 | Link to Comment jmc8888
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Fusion is the only real answer.

We cannot be afraid of our shadow though.  Man's place is to achieve, not to stay within his 'limits'.

Our energy needs will only grow massively in 50 years.  That is not achievable with any of today's boondoggles known as 'renewable energy'.  NONE OF THEM will work. Only fusion.

Good thing we don't have a nuclear power plant placed in the worst possible spot to go haywire to throw us off of using nuclear energy until fusion. Oh wait, that is.  We cannot be afraid of our shadow.  But we cannot ignore the facts as well.

We must build these reactors FEDERALLY.  (notice all the...oh they covered up this or that...because of the MONEY involved)

Nuclear power plants must be FEDERALLY funded.  So if they find a fault underneath, the GOV'T takes the hit, and thus people won't have to lie for due to the profit motive. 

No more nuclear power plants in INSANE areas...and ONLY until we get fusion going.  So if you want our only option NUCLEAR to fade away, start demanding a manhattan project for fusion. 

Now more than ever it should be obvious, that fusion is our only way out. SO fund it.  It's not just going to happen on its own.  You have to have an economic system (hint: not monetarism) that will allow the uttering of credit (not through loans from banks and federal reserve) for what is actually NEEDED...like a fusion program.  Nuclear power plants. 

There isn't a lack of money, just a lack of will.  There will always be money for what is needed, if the right people are in power. 

We must not chince on design.  We must not let money be the factor.  Because when the gov't can utter it, it NEVER would be a legitimate factor.

Set it up, so that future diasters aren't sown in because of the fear of not being able to pay off loans.  Again the banksters will fuck us that way if we let them.

We need power.  Or we die.  We deserve to live.  We can do things smartly, if our priorities are correct.  When safety trumps cost, there shouldn't be problems.  As for a nuclear reactor in tsunami conuntry, or along a big fault, close it down.  Only geologically safe locations, shielded from emp's, inspected well (costs money you know), etc.

It's not hard, but the first is to recognize that is our wonderful monetary system that makes us choose between keeping an unsafe plant open in order to pay off debt, or to close it down and let the funders eat the cost. (which again should be the federal gov't)

Once again, debt concerns, needlessly fuck us over.  We don't make any deicisons today, unless they are decisions about DEBT.  Whenever the world runs around and makes every decision based on debt, it's no wonder that everything is failing around us.  Because it isn't what we're focused on, debt.  We're producing a lot of that, but nothing else.

Nuclear until fusion.  It's STILL the only way. 

 

 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:05 | Link to Comment tmosley
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Feel free to crawl back into your mother's womb, then.

This isn't about man and his "limits", it is about corruption and government control run amok to the point that we are forced to rely on 40 year old reactors exclusively.  Might as well ban all car production because Cuba has unsafe ones on the road.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 10:56 | Link to Comment DoctoRx
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TMosley:  But you would agree that if there were unsafe cars on the road, they should be banned from public thoroughfares?

The analogy is the continued extension of the old nuke plants beyond end of life.

Furthermore, the failure of Tokyo Electric Power Company to have multiple redundant supplies of power to a nuke power complex leaves most of us with no confidence that no matter how "safe" the design, something can go wrong with nuke power.  Most simply, it holds a country/region hostage in a war/terrorism setting.  How deep the corruption in business?  See, financial meltdown, 2008 for your answer.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 13:49 | Link to Comment tmosley
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That's not what they are doing.  They are banning production of NEW cars/reactors.  

This reactor design is more than 40 years old, and was questioned from the start.  There are reactor designs out there RIGHT NOW that are literally meltdown proof-no electricity, water, or moving parts required.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pebble_bed_reactor

Imposing more regulation is NOT going to help, because regulations only stop new, safer designs from getting into production.  That is why we haven't built a single new reactor in the US in 35 years.

If you ban the unsafe cars from Cuban roads, then they wouldn't have any cars!  Same here, given that the government regulations blocking production of new SAFE nuke plants have the same effect as the embargo on Cuba.  They just have to patch and pray that what we have doesn't go.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:28 | Link to Comment hugovanderbubble
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The market wont tank till OPEX,,,,get long with both hands

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:42 | Link to Comment Sudden Debt
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Japan is changing it's national flag:

http://www.halcyon.com/donace/PIRATE05AM.JPG

 

They are also going to change the name of their island but there isn't a concensius yet about the new name.

 

The vote goes between:

 

1. Death Mans Island

2. The Land of NO Return

 

And there is also a contest for artists to make a new anthem. The anthem must include:

 

1. We are yellow, are you to? Fuck U2!

2. Radiate till you drop

3. A Flipper a day makes good eating

 

 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:56 | Link to Comment RusticSpaceboy
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NEWSFLASH: You're not funny.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:57 | Link to Comment Sudden Debt
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in the past... I would have voted you OFF the Island for a remark like that!

 

NOW I VOTE YOU TO THE ISLAND FOR THAT REMARK!!

 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:05 | Link to Comment hardcleareye
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SD, I think this is getting to you...  your posting are getting a tad "off color", maybe it's time to walk away from the computer and get a brew?  (or maybe you already have!)

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:00 | Link to Comment prophet
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Land of the Melting Sun?

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:07 | Link to Comment Sudden Debt
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hmm... it would cut down the costs of reprinting all the national flags...

THE RAYS ARE ALREADY IN PLACE!

http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/273127/273127,1230524047,2/stock-vector-mt-fuji-and-japanese-flag-in-vector-art-22537492.jpg

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:11 | Link to Comment prophet
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I'm exploring applying for a Krispy Kreme franchise near Fukushima Daiichi.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:09 | Link to Comment Sudden Debt
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Here's a free bumper sticker for your contribution:

http://rlv.zcache.com/melting_sun_sticker-p217624240283639394qjcl_400.jpg

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:29 | Link to Comment NOTW777
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theres radiation from geithner as well - one world currency

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/5050407/US-backing-for-worl...

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:31 | Link to Comment Josh Randall
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Baghdad Bob had an Atomic Baby - can dead people sue for Libel ?

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:32 | Link to Comment Sudden Debt
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I don't know...

 

BUT IN THE US THEY CAN VOTE!!

 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:31 | Link to Comment AladdinSaneGirl
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In a coastal area, might not the prevailing winds be from the ocean side, especially if there was turbulence over the ocean due to the tsunami. Just a thought, i don't really know anything about it.

At least it has to be good that Tokyo may not be as badly affected .. if ur figures are right!

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:49 | Link to Comment malikai
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I believe what you are referring to is sea breeze. This is the effect caused by relatively cool (high pressure) air traveling towards a relatively warm (low pressure) area. I'm not sure if that is occurring, but that effect, particularly at night and in the early morning is responsible for advection fog, which can best be seen in places like San Francisco. This could explain why there would be more radiation showing up towards the west, despite the prevailing winds. Also, mountain wave, which is the effect mountains have on downwind patterns may also play a role, as its affect in this instance would be to create pockets of stationary air underneath the wave patterns.

To me, explaining how radiation is showing up in the west is no big deal, its explaining how radiation is NOT showing up in the southeast that bothers me, particularly when I've been checking METARS and seeing surface winds heading directly along the coast towards Tokyo.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:55 | Link to Comment Jim in MN
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Exactly as you surmise, I did a little research a couple of days ago...

http://space.hsv.usra.edu/CLRC/papers/Tsunematsu.pdf

 

"In the Kanto Plain, a steady sea breeze originating from the Pacific coast frequently prevails under the cloudless weak synoptic wind condition. This sea breeze is called the extended sea breeze because its horizontal scale exceeds 100 km (Kondo, 1990). The extended sea breeze can transport atmospheric pollutants to the inland area (Kurita et al., 1990). The sea breeze is, therefore, familiar to people living in the Kanto Plain including the Tokyo metropolitan area."

So if there is no strong front prevailing, as has been the case the last few days, generally there will be an onshore sea breeze especially in the daytime.  More so as summer comes (warmer ground).

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 13:14 | Link to Comment AladdinSaneGirl
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Well yes, sea breeze, but made stronger by the turbulence due to the tsunami. Maybe there's an east-west loop in the air currents that's shunting stuff away from the southeast. Guess the news tonight will have more info.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:31 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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I've been waiting for this to be reported, and sadly, I am not surprised.

I was hinting as to this yesterday because there were very odd variations being reported given relatively small geographical intervals, and then, of course, there were the infamous "under survey" areas that have become a bad joke and emblematic of the loss of credibility of Japan's Government (which seemingly can't or won't tell its citizens the truth).

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:46 | Link to Comment justbuygold
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Yes. The Japanese can now be seen as pathological liers . Their honor seems more important than their people .  If this is the case then how can we believe any of the Japanese people when doing business dealings with them and when things go wrong.  The govt represents the image of its people.  They need to learn that " the truth will set you free"  .  " Do whats right. not whats easy " !

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:57 | Link to Comment midlevex@gmail.com
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Let's see, that would just about put them on a level field with the klelptocracy and the MSM here in the  Land of the free... etc., etc.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:03 | Link to Comment The Profit Prophet
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Spot on!  The Japenese government should have behaved more like the US government during the BP oil spill.....all truth, all the time! 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:12 | Link to Comment justbuygold
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Good point.  U.S. govt and corporations, especially the banks and Wall Street are so much worse.  The only ones left to trust are the Canadians these days.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:22 | Link to Comment aerojet
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but I have worked with plenty of Japanese and I never found them to be anything but annoying when it comes to business dealings--they can be very cutthroat.  Business is business no matter where you go.  The nice thing is that it doesn't take bribes to get things done, they're fairly orderly in that regard, the same way the US is.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:32 | Link to Comment steve from virginia
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It appears the Japanese establishment, like the US and EU establishments, is absolutely clueless. Nobody seems to know what to do or how to organize.

Now that the TVs are not working the people are milling around in circles, bumping into things and making strange noises.

The bosses need to fly over w/ helicopters carrying large TV screens with the 'brackets' ... whatever the fuck those are.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:33 | Link to Comment Sudden Debt
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They are clueless as long as they need to get the rich people into safety.

Once the neon lights start to turn themselves on without electricity, we'll get the "You see, we told ya so" message.

 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:34 | Link to Comment cossack55
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 No need for TVs. Just put more flouride in their water, especially that cheap Chinese shit the the US likes to use. 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:34 | Link to Comment Silverhog
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I hope someone on the west coast of the US could post a streaming Geiger Counter such as the one in Tokyo. That would be better than taking the gubermints readings.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:49 | Link to Comment Stormdancer
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http://www.radiationnetwork.com/

 

Readings in excess of 130 cpm indicate levels higher than can be attributed to normal background radiation in any circumstance.  Background levels tend to be much lower than that in most areas...but 130 cpm triggers alerts that something unusual is going on.

 

Edit:  Anyone that has a giggle counter up and running might want to consider joining the network.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:29 | Link to Comment Drag Racer
Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:14 | Link to Comment ColonelCooper
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Here's another one:

http://www.blackcatsystems.com/RadMap/map.html

Unfortunately, the number of active monitors at both of these sites is too few to be comprehensive. 

Here's one for Japan:

http://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=4870

When searching for such sites I also found this:

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1393257/pg1

This is "man on the street" readings from different areas in U.S..  BUT after looking at the site a bit, the Moonbats on there make me look like a government shill.  I don't even think George Washington would stick around there too long.  Take it for what you will.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:33 | Link to Comment max2205
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Smile Fest on CNBS jobs CPI and some other shit

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:36 | Link to Comment cossack55
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Is CNBS displaying a BS Meter in the foreground?

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:37 | Link to Comment Sudden Debt
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No, it's a average spectator IQ registration device.

 

 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:44 | Link to Comment LRC Fan
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Liesman asking the guest and everyone else what religion they were made me laugh.  Are you a CPI or a core?  Huh?  There's no inflation here!  The Fed says so and the Dow is up up up baby!  QE2 for the win. 

Honestly, asking someone if they are "a CPI or a core" is like asking Dem or Republican.  I'll take none of the above...  Thanks bye. 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:35 | Link to Comment malikai
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There's definitely something wrong with those numbers. Short of a low-level inversion and strong windshear in the lower altitudes, it makes no sense for those numbers to be true. Surface winds have been out of 010-030 which is directed towards Tokyo. I suspect someone's trying to hide something. The only thing I can think of to offset my beliefs is the effect of mountain wave/sea breeze on the 1000-3000ft altitudes.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:35 | Link to Comment Misean
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Sorry, what ARE you talking about? Surely not *3? Those numbers indicate the measurement device.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:55 | Link to Comment CD
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[oops]

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:46 | Link to Comment FilthyLucre
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Reading Point about 25km/south west:-

MEXT - 9.5, 0.8, 1.0, 6.7 and 10.5

Reading Point about 30km/south west:-

JAEA - 26.0 and 80.0

Thats orders of magnitude difference from similar locations.

 

 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:53 | Link to Comment Misean
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"Japan Atomic Energy Agency (JAEA), unfortunately just two of them, differ from the official ones Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology (MEXT) literally by order of magnitude!"

Explain readings 4 and 5 then.

I'm still having trouble understanding the alarm.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:46 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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[I]n order to achieve more sensitivity and to produce a pulse of varying height, we must move up to the next level of detector probe. This class device class is called "Scintillators". A Scintillator works on an entirely different principle. We will explore them in detail in a separate article, but in brief, they work by using a special material NaI(Tl) that will emit a light pulse whenever it encounters gamma radiation. This material varies depending on it's intended use, but they all produce 1 photon for each particle or ray they encounter. Fixed to this material is a super sensitive electric eye tube, called a photomultiplier. When it sees the photon, it will amplify it as much as 1 million times and produce an electrical pulse output. Now the good news : Not only is the Scintillator almost 100% efficient, the pulses it gives off vary in height according to the energy level of the radiation.

 

It seems as if those are among the most accurate devices being used.

All the above measurements whether *1, *2 or *3 are reported levels of radiation, regardless of what type of device was used to detect the same.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:58 | Link to Comment Misean
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Yes, but what of it?!?! 80nSv?!?! Uneven fallout distribution due to wind, instrument location (debris piles around counter?!?)?!?!

 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:38 | Link to Comment SashaBelov
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Well Tyler, that are micro not mili sieverts/h. Spreadsheet shows that. 80 miliSv/h is deadly dose in the mater of 1 or 2 days. While micro is not great, but anyhow, probably somethig comparable to being on the permanent aeroplane fly at 30 000 feet.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:54 | Link to Comment snowball777
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I think TD misread the chart assuming that the 80*3 meant 80000 uSv when it really means 80 uSv, as measured by an NAI scintillator (the asterisk and '3' are references to the footer of the page, not multipliers).

 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:04 | Link to Comment snowball777
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What ignorant fucktard junked the goddamn truth?

Stand and be recognized, idiot.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:16 | Link to Comment ColonelCooper
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Good luck with that.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:23 | Link to Comment snowball777
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With this site, it's called the 'shotgun method'. ;)

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:39 | Link to Comment Str8-Razr
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There are only 2 ways off an island and several airlines are no longer flying to Tokyo so hope you all have your iPhones, TVs and digital cameras cuz the ones left at the Apple store and Best Buy are about to get very expensive.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:42 | Link to Comment Youri Carma
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Reports are inacurate and I suspect faul play. On the pictures you can clearly see that Unit3 (of 6) at the Daiichi Fukushima 1 Plant has been severely blown out and damaged. PICTURES NEW: http://tinyurl.com/4wxngp8

Each reactor building pool holds 3,450 fuel rod assemblies and the common pool holds 6,291 fuel rod assemblies. Each assembly holds sixty-three fuel rods.

In short, the Fukushima Daiichi plant contains OVER 600,000 SPENT FUEL RODS – a massive amount of radiation that will soon be released into the atmosphere.

CIA Sends USAID to Japan to Manage Nuclear Disinfo Campaign http://clipsnews.com/cia-sends-usaid-to-japan-to-manage-nuclear-disinfo-campaign/

NEWS RELEASE: Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency, March 16, 2011 http://www.nisa.meti.go.jp/english/files/en20110317-1.pdf

Nuclear Crisis: NRC Says Spent Fuel Pool at Unit Four Lost Massive Amounts of Water; Japan Disputes Claims, 16 March 2011, By David Muir, Jessica Hopper, Leezel Tanglao and Ben Forer (ABC News) http://abcnews.go.com/International/japan-nuclear-crisis-nrc-spent-fuel-pool-unit/story?id=13146516

They claim that the second explosion at Unit 3 was also an hydrogen explosion like the first one. I severly doubt that cause I think the second one was a nuclear one and als damaged the fuel storage pools and spent fuel storage racks at the top of the building like seen on two schematics, Schematic 1 http://tinyurl.com/5wplqxv and Schematic 2 http://tinyurl.com/6kfu7ak

Second Explosion at Unit3 (Sound for real?) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_N-wNFSGyQ

Nuclear Watchdog IAEA Confirms Partial Meltdown of Reactors 1 to 3 http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article27695.htm

“Japanese authorities had also reported concerns about the spent nuclear fuel pools of reactors No. 3 and No. 4.

The deep tanks contain used fuel rods which are extremely radioactive and normally kept immersed in cooling water. Unlike the fuel rods that are used in the reactor vessel, the spent rods are not surrounded by a steel-and-concrete containment vessel. If water in the pools evaporated, the spent rods would be exposed to the air and radioactive material would be released into the atmosphere.”

Radiation From Fukushima Would Take 7 Days To Reach U.S. – posted 2 days ago http://twitwall.com/view/?what=0208030E0650

IODINE – Nuclear contamination: The options http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gcWK52roN0AkTwjknyX1r1X6jjRA?docId=CNG.c105341bf1df5116fb348c673eb9322d.a01

The goal is to saturate the thyroid with “healthy iodine,” shielding it from radioactive iodine, said Gourmelon.

Timing, though, is essential. Preferably, the iodine is taken an hour before a known fallout incident. You can also take it in the following 24 hours after the incident,” he said. “It does work but the protection is reduced to 25%.

Alternatives:

- Use Salt with iodide in it. That’s what I did and still do.

- You can eat Kelp witch contains a lot of iodide.

- Spiderwort plant ??? http://www.claybaths.com.au/professional/radiation.html

– For extreme veggy behavior LOLz – Basically, an anti-radiation diet should focus on the following foods:

· Miso soup
· Spirulina, chlorella and the algaes (kelp, etc.)
· Brassica vegetables and high beta carotene vegetables
· Beans and lentils
· Potassium, calcium and mineral rich foods
· High nucleotide content foods to assist in cellular repair including spirulina, chlorella, algae, yeast, sardines, liver, anchovies and mackerel
· Cod liver oil and olive oil
· Avoid sugars and sweets and wheat
· A good multivitamin/multimineral supplement

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:58 | Link to Comment FilthyLucre
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Its the Caesium 137 thats going to cause long term problems not Iodine. There are 10s of M Curies of Caesium 137 in each used fuel rod pool. Gamma rays from its decay is why all the land around Chernobyl is off limits.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:30 | Link to Comment Youri Carma
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So, Sherlock (And I mean this in a positive way) what to do about Caesium 13? The gamma is a bitch huh .... happy dieing I guess?

#Worker Hazards

- Another factor is the gamma radiation exposure which comes from americium, which accumulates as plutonium decays into americium as time lapses. Gamma radiation penetrates through almost anything, so it is very difficult to protect workers from this radiation.

- Because plutonium is more radioactive than uranium, greater safety concern is required when handling the material in whatever way. The ICRP sets a standard for occupational exposure to radiation at 100 mSv over 5 years, with a maximum of 50 mSv in any one year. 

- If you interpret this in comparison for workers at an uranium fuel fabrication plant with MOX fuel fabrication plant workers, the standards for protection against inhalation are roughly two Million times stricter in plutonium processing than in uranium processing.

It is known as one of the most toxic elements: PLUTONIUM 

It emits high energy alpha radiation, and has harmful biological effects.
 
Alpha radiation has a very short range but very intense ionization power.  

If exposed on the surface of the skin, the skin works as a shield and will prevent its penetration into the body, but all of its ionizing power will be focused on the small spot, causing burns and killing the skin tissue.

If inhaled into the body, the alpha particle will go in through the respiratory tract, and enter the lung.  

Due to its long half-life, it will stay in the body permanently, emitting alpha radiation, and killing the surrounding tissues by strong ionization.  

If plutonium is taken into the body in soluble form (e.g. plutonium nitrate) through food chain, it will enter the blood stream, and into the bones, liver and genital organs where it will be enriched.  

Alpha radiation leads to reactions in the cells of living things.  

It can cause damage to the nucleus and DNA of the cell, in effect causing genetic damage in descendants, particularly if germ cells are affected.

#Dangers of Resuspension in the Environment

In the event of a contamination of the environment with plutonium, the whirling up and inhalation of plutonium particles, known as resuspension, plays an important role.  

- If there is fire, and plutonium becomes airborne into fine aerosol particles, plutonium contamination of the environment will extend to a far larger scale, landing on ground, contaminating a vast wider area. plutonium remains effective over very long periods affecting the health of the people and the environment.

#Accident Scenario When Burning MOX

In such accidents, not only would readily volatile noble gases, like iodine and caesium be released to the environment, but a small portion of the actinides, including plutonium and neptunium would be released.  

As the activity of the actinides is substantially higher in the case of MOX, the consequences of such severe accidents become more serious.

When MOX fuels are used, the probability of having such serious accidents or trouble would increase due to the high content of plutonium in the fuel.  

Even if an accident is not a serious one, it could become serious since even a small portion of the inventory of actinides released to the environment could cause significant radiological consequences.

According to a comparative analysis of possible consequences of a core meltdown accident in the German Kruemmel nuclear power plant with and without the use of MOX fuel:

*The radiation exposure from inhalation of radioactive materials during the passage of the radioactive cloud is higher by several dozen percent than if uranium fuel elements were exclusively used.

*Radiation exposure through the route of inhalation of remobilized long-lived actinide isotopes is more than doubled.

*The land areas to become out of use by long-term contamination increases as the resuspension pathway is a limiting factor and the greater part of the dose resulting from the pathway comes from the actinides.

FROM: TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF MOX FUEL IN LIGHT WATER REACTORS/THE REACTOR OPTION http://www.nirs.org/reactorwatch/mox/puupdat4.txt

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 10:37 | Link to Comment hardcleareye
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Excellent post!  Thank you. 

Keeping posting so I can ask you questions after I devour all the links and info you have provided!!!!

I know other people are looking for this level of information so keep on posting it, great work on your photo bucket.  I will be passing this on.

 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:42 | Link to Comment FilthyLucre
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Here is some light reading about expected Caesium 137 release from a burning spent fuel rod storage pool and how likely it is for spent fuel rods to ignite in the event of a coolant event (amongst a whole lot of other dire reading).

http://www.irss-usa.org/pages/documents/11_1Alvarez.pdf

Here is the NRCs rebuttal:-

http://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/fact-sheets/reducing-hazar...

Basically they say spent fuel rod pools are safe because they are robust, that there is a lot of water to drain and in the event of any problems the operators would have plenty of time to recitify them.

The effects of Caesium 137 are well documented. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesium-137 is worth a read. Most accounts of Chernobyl include discussions of the contamination caused by Caesium 137. This map shows the exclusion zone and contamination http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Chernobyl_radiation_map_1996.svg

If the Alvarez study is to be believed then the situation in Japan is most likely completely FUBAR and this will get much, much worse.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:42 | Link to Comment gwar5
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***RED ALERT**

Geithner says he backs a world currency by IMF after the Chinese said they would consider it. 

US backing for world currency stuns markets - Telegraph

This won't be good for the USD. Did the Chinese blink, or did the West? 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:46 | Link to Comment the not so migh...
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He is showing who he really works for.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:48 | Link to Comment Sudden Debt
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You'll get your local dollars

AND

You'll get your world dollars.

 

which movie I've seen that in I can't recall but it looked like Utopia.

 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:49 | Link to Comment theopco
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that report is 2 years old

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:52 | Link to Comment snowball777
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China holds almost 30pc of the world's entire reserves. 

 

The West. Ben's dick is only big in a fun-house mirror.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:54 | Link to Comment TomB
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Old news => 25 Mar 2009

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:45 | Link to Comment papaswamp
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Aleutian islands and possibly the US west coast should begin levels rise as early as today.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/03/16/science/plume-graphic.html 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:17 | Link to Comment ColonelCooper
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The only thing about that map that makes me suspect is who created it.  Agenda?  Also notice the "arbitrary" units? 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:47 | Link to Comment Muir
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It's all good now guys.

They connected the extension cord.

Wow! That was close.

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For the gold (silver) bugs.

All, doubly good now.

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Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:52 | Link to Comment plocequ1
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Has the radiation effected Gold? It hasnt moved. Still stuck at 1,399. Just wondering

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:55 | Link to Comment Sudden Debt
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If they connect 2 cups on both sides of the cord, THEY GET THEIR OWN COMMUNICATION DEVICE!!

 

I guess now we know why they needed those American Engineers...

 

 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:04 | Link to Comment depression
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"We have coffee !"

 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:49 | Link to Comment spanish inquisition
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Question- If the rods are creating hydrogen, I assumed they were making gas. With all the atoms and such flying around, is it possible they are making a big acid bath or being suspended in the water? 

Follow up - I remember mixing some acid and base together to neutralize it and forgot to stir while doing so. It stayed mixed and once I started stirring, lets say it went woosh and half the liquid was converted to gas and a bit of heat was formed. Point being, the initial blasts seemed excessive with the amount of space and just air hydrogen. Is adding water without mixing going to do the same thing if my first question is plausible?

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 08:57 | Link to Comment Jim in MN
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The US ambassador to Japan said yesterday that the Amerikanskis are bringing a few dozen radiation monitors over to, you know, help out.  He stressed that it is NOT because we don't trust the Japanese info.

 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:01 | Link to Comment AldoHux_IV
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There's just too much misinformation going on and it's fucking bullshit when you have to account for radiation affecting the environment and people.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:03 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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OT, but Jeff Mackey, who had a brilliant meltdown, taking his rage out at the Unicornian Dennis Kneale, has gotten a new show on the surely destined to epicly fail Yahoo Finance Network.

Mackey (drunk and/or temporarily insane) raging:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RziYy8b2RE

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:31 | Link to Comment Bagbalm
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This lying is hardly surprising in a culture where your own doctor will not tell you you have cancer. Kind of hard to make informed decisions about your treatment that way isn't it?

Not to worry - God-like doctor know better than you anyhow. Just like god/father politician.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:32 | Link to Comment trav7777
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a reading inside the exclusion zone of Fukushima of 20uSv is utterly unexceptional.  It may be "100x normal levels" but it's not particularly dangerous.

It indicates that as of yet only gaseous radionuclides have been released- these quickly decay.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:43 | Link to Comment Ident 7777 economy
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