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Live Video Stream Of Wisconsin Protests Where Hundreds Of Protesters Rush Wisconsin Capitol, Vastly Outnumbering Security
That didn't take long. Ann Althouse writes: "Meade, who is in the building now, tells me, by phone, that he saw a
window on the Wisconsin Avenue side of the building opened and
protesters entering through that window. He thought it seemed as if someone in one of the Democratic legislators'
offices had opened a window to let them in, and — once they were in —
many doors have been opened all around, and people have streamed into
the building. He says he counted 3 "troopers" — I'm not sure what the
official job title is for these security people — and that they were
absurdly overwhelmed by the crowd." So...Wisconsin is not Cairo?
More:
Meade said that he wasn't afraid that these people would become violent, and indeed many of them looked happy — or dazed — perhaps out of success in taking over the building. He didn't see any damage or dangerous behavior. Meade is taking video of what he is seeing, and I will have that for you later.
AND: Meade said that he didn't see how the security officers could possibly clear out the building and that there was nothing to stop any number of individuals from entering the building right now.
It is unknown if any Republicans were harmed in the making of this mini Cairo.
At least now we know what it takes to pull the average American away from The Jersey Shore...
For those who enjoyed the movie Sliver, here is the livestream of Wisconsin protests:
Watch live streaming video from theuptake at livestream.com
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The moderation is now over the top.
If the comment doesn't fit the bill of message board as adolescent socialist echo chamber OR dumbass neocon tea baggery, it has zero chance to see the light of day.
What about the story? I know about the moderation, it keeps the troll levels down. I have mod privileges, I should know...now, back to the story.
Bullshit, it keeps the level of discourse down.
I can post bagger troll shit until the cows come home but put together a thoughtful, inflammatory critique that goes beyond the superficial rah-rah, DvR nonsense, deleted.
Enjoy your echo chamber.
It keeps the discussion peurile. I posted a lengthly explanation on Operation Ajax, and it's relationship to the creation of the Islamic Revolution as well as US complicity in that, with a follow up on the Lavon Affair and that was the last time I was ever allowed to post.
Hmm, I might have discussed Dimona and Mordechai Vanunu as well, I don't really remember.
Anyhow: it's just censhorship, why would I read anything from a site that is now purely propaganda? I never got an explanation as to why I was censored, but I'm certainly banned now. I'm tired of people trying to control the discussion, that's basically how this country got to this awful state anyhow.
I think it is "puerile"? I usually don't comment on spelling mistakes but when commenting on censorship of a news site ....
Oh whatever.
The point being that is if you have an intelligent well researched comment to make on Huffington Post that demonstrates that the article's logic or conclusions are just plain wrong, you can expect to never be able to be ever allowed to post again with no explanation or reason given.
It really is just another propaganda site. I find it about as useful as Fox news, which also censors comments.
It doesn't censor to reduce trolls or irrelevant discussion, they censor because they want to control the narrative and that's blatantly obvious to me. I remember the site before the "moderation" went into effect, now it's just children slinging mud at one another.
As long as you support the Republican party of the Democratic party, everybody is happy, because the difference between those two parties is irrelevant. They do the same thing, this is why none of Bush's terrible policies (Guantanamo, warrantless wiretapping, the wars, the bailouts, torture, mercenaries, etc) have ended with a Democratic congress and a Democratic president. Heck, the media doesn't even bring up that Obama hasn't reversed a SINGLE policy of Bush that was the least bit important.
I find that people are often censored when it's pointed out both parties are full of crap and they only differ in rhetoric, and not in action. I wonder why that is? In any case, to heck with the Huffington Post, it's just another site to corral the sheep.
I have never been censored on HP but I don't post there much. Sometimes I share a link if there is an interesting article.
I do agree that they may have a political slant but every website does - no?
I don't find that this one does, really. I've never been censored here, but I'm banned on Huffington Post. Heck, it will let me write a lengthy comment, and as soon as I hit post, it's simply deleted - it doesn't even tell you that your comment will never show up, or tell you that you're banned, it just wastes your time.
I have thought that myself, but often it seems that it's just due to a backlog of comments to be moderated - hell, with some articles the damned pages of comments multiply faster than I can read/respond to them. Check the "comments pending" figure at the head of the comments section. Eventually they often turn up (but I can't say ALWAYS).
No. I am clearly banned.
You can see previous posts, and all my old ones are still there, nothing new is. Huffington Post censors, they don't moderate. Everybody knows it, or should know it.
Plenty of people complain about it, and now I simply ignore the site.
I've been on HP way before I discovered Tyler on Seeking Alpha...HP used to be a much better place before the invasion of the trolls, much like here. I link to ZH quite often as there is a very receptive audience. The trolls are just ugly and annoying, but HP'ers have seen through the ploy already, just like we have here, the MO does not change. HP does their share of puff pieces, however, they have been very vocal about the financial games being played. Who else has mentioned the farm subsidies that the republicans in Wisconsin have been pocketing while they push austerity on the people?
I don't know how good your post was, or if it was on topic, or if it contained words that would have sentenced it to electron heaven. Sometimes there is no rhyme or reason to why. It is what it is. I use it as a base to spread the message, find good people where ever I can. And yes, I delete messages that are repetitive and annoying, posted to disrupt a conversation. I censor, sue me. Now back to the story if you will...any comments on that, or are we going to keep attacking the messenger?
It's pretty simple to get rid of trolls
1) you allow people to ignore posts from who you consider a troll, and also RESPONSES to trolls.
2) you allow people to ignore posts from new accounts by selection or default this way they can't just keep creating new accounts
3) you allow general users to make people as trolls.
Huffington post isn't interested in furthering a discussion, and they are not just turning of trolls, they are censoring. It's as simple as that, and I consider them as worthwhile as Fox news as a result. If you're not allowed to comment on a story, it's a propaganda site, nothing more.
government employees wanting more money. Fuck 'em.
Are we all buying the futures dip at the magic 04:00 hour? That is usually the time the V resumes correct?
Govt Employees can Trade for a Living. Everyone get into trading. Everyone into the Pool.
Till Ben Dover tosses in a Baby Ruth.
If only the politicians had the foresight to have assembled a 3D 200" projection TV in front of the capital with a streaming loop of American Idol & Dancing With The Stars this could all have been avoided.
or just give em sex, drugs and rock-n-roll...
Great for the unemployment rate in Wisconsin.
Just hire a bunch of protesters on the cheap! ; )
They can hold those signs for Pizza places and car washes....they have a lot of experience in that field.
They need attractive people for that. Especially car washes...........sorry drifted for a second.
No, you did not drift....your logic is sound, and devastating.
Tyler, this ain’t Cairo; this is a Mardi Gras carnival. Cairo was a change of government on the way to freedom. Madison is a misuse of freedom and a travesty of government. There was a vote. The vote was in November, not now, to have elected representatives to carry out the state’s business. That’s not good enough for these people. They would rather have the TV networks decide what’s right, the demonstrators to decide… The vote in November needs to be reversed by yelling.
It’s Kumbayah gone awry. It’s an insult to use the word Cairo and Madison in the same sentence… to compare the 40-50 percent of Egypt’s people going hungry on less than $2.00 a day with the above public service employees.
+1
Exactly
These sheeple are not going to change anything. Perhaps they can hold on to their hope. Will that keep them warm when they can't afford to heat their houses, eh?
Things like this started during the "free speech" part of the 60's and then morphed into the anti-war demonstrations, etc. During those anti-war years there were over 100 incidents of bombings and arson related to civil disobedience. The next governor is going to look at the WI state house being overrun and they will not rely upon the state police for their own needs. The governor will activate the National Guard to take care of business, or hire "subcontractors." With so many guard units activated and deployed overseas, you could really see states getting creative in terms of law enforcement and security.
Read up on your new friend USNORTHCOM.
Lloyd Blankfein's Dictaphone:
Note to self. Reminder to check with Tishman on the progress of the helipad being installed on the roof of 200 West for when the peasants arrive outside our doors.
Jon Corzine and Hank Paulson are going to live the rest of their lives with their ill gotten millions, Llyod may be hanged from a tall building
Note to 'peasants': Don't forget to add 'Stingers' to your 'requisition' list.
I hate when they take the punch bowl away at parties.
Me too...cause usually, I am the one who pissed in it...and suddenly, the joke is over.
who would ever hire these people ?
What you are looking at is America, my friend. The salt of the land.
Yeah, well, someone needs to go all Scipio Aemilianus Africanus on that turf, and plow the salt back in.
Mercy me....I think that is like a 2nd Punic war dude...man, I am just a dumb hillbilly....but, watch out for those Catos (the Elder) who might lurk under the saline layer and try to lay some serious political shit-hammer on that Governor in the aftermath of this thing.
Now I have images of elephants decending the Alps against a Rebooblikud govenor...
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit lead acetate.
;)
There’s been a joke going around the labor protests. It goes something like this:
A union member, a CEO and a Tea Party member are sitting at a table with 12 cookies. The CEO grabs 11, turns to the Tea Partier and says “The Union’s out to take your cookie!”
If the premise of the joke is correct and the union never took any cookies from anyone then they haven't lost anything in this process and the protesters can go home. Surely they aren't angry because they didn't want any cookies and they didn't get any cookies.
just to wait to see how pissed they are when they're paying $4 for
gas next week
There’s been a joke going around the labor protests. It goes something like this:
A union member, a CEO and a Tea Party member are sitting at a table with 12 cookies. The CEO grabs 11, turns to the Tea Partier and says “The Union’s out to take your cookie!”
Is the joke really going around or is that just you repeating it over and over again?
it is now, shilly
What kind of cookie is it?
Lawlz
If it's a marijuana cookie, Karl Marx is right.
Everything comes from labor.
lol
What is never mentioned is that the CEO hired the labor to make the cookie, purchased the flour, eggs, sugar, and butter - bought the oven and rented the kitchen to have the cookies made.
I don't know why the Tea Party member was even invited to the table - it's not his cookie.
Actually, they were Girl Scout cookies (which are now to be taxed!) which he paid for with a dud cheque drawn on any empty account he opened using fake paperwork from a $2 shelf company. But he couldn't stay to watch the fun - he still has 10 more tables to visit. A CEO's work is never done - so much to do, so little time.
I was talking about a CEO that was running a successful company.
Not some piece of shit like Andrew Mozilo, or Franklin Raines, or Dick Fuld that ran a company into the ground, and got a bunchof corrupt fucking politicians to hand over trillions of dollars to them instead of thowing their useless criminal asses into jail, and throwing away the key.
Despite the fact the Tea Party has been infilitrated by a bunch of stupid, jingoistic Republican party loyalists, at least they retained one thing - they don't support the bailouts, even though they do think that useless featherhead Sarah Palin is a leader instead of what she really is, a pretty package of Neocon propaganda.
They're fortune cookies, made in China, are full of melamine, and when the Tea Party member opened it the fortune said, "We've already got all the tea in China. Too bad for you, gwai lo!"
Yeah, that's a little voyeuristic. Thanks Tyler.
Things were fully debated before the election. I don't mind unions, but think forced unionization is a little strange anyway. Atlas finally shrugged. Now the teachers won't be able to demand what color the rooms are painted.
I would have split the bill and got it over with sooner.
Where's Ernst Rohm's Freikorp when you need 'em?
(wonder if anyone here will get that reference)
Man, I'm getting tired. I thought that read Rahm Emanual's.
And you remember what happened to Rohm, don't you, after he outlived his usefulness?
WI Dem. Helen Roys: frets that evil corporations are driving the agenda.
But unions are the top givers by far. It's about union power. Period.
This guy says it all, he looks and sounds like Dick Cheney's brother:
YouTube - NEA General Counsel Bob Chanin Says Farewell
Unions might be the top givers to the Dems, but guess who are the top givers to the Repubs? The Corporates.
"Unions might be the top givers to the Dems, but guess who are the top givers to the Repubs? The Corporates."
LOL I do not care for Dem or GOP but pal you should at least get your facts strait..
wall st gave much more to Obuma than the GOP in last national election..look it up if you have the time and an honest intent.
Honest intent? There is no more of that left.
The problem is...the municipalities, the states, the corporations, the Federal Gov and most of the people in this country are greedy and power hungry. They are this way because greed and the desire of power and control is a human condition. The mantra of this country - unfettered capitalism, compounds the overweening need for wealth and power and control. In reality, a pox on all their houses is the best thing to hope for. Yes, it will destroy our way of living, but in doing so, it will make this country come to terms with itself, and the rich will be stripped of their wealth and they will be cast into a lake of fire along with the greedy, the powerful, the arrogant and those who think their ideas are sacrosanct and final and the ultimate truth. At some point, a lot of you wealth traders on here may wake up in the middle of the night and feel the cold, sharp steel of vengeance tight against your throat, as a beer-breath Union thug smiles through his stache and bleeds you out in your bed. I am not a union sympathizer. Back in the day, I took a Union-busting job in a shipyard in the Northeast, and I got beat on, harassed, fucked over and screwed by the system since I was required to pay Union dues even though I was a scab. I eventually joined the union (IBEW) to stop the beer bottles being bounced off my vehicle everytime I showed up for work, and to prevent people from punching me in the face as I tried to do my job. Eventually, I quit, but since I was working on a job that was in the interest of "national security," the Gov harassed me for years because I did not quit properly....no exit interview. I quit because I hated the union, the company I worked for, the military branch we serviced, and the federal Gov that made my life hell. But, you need to know who you are dealing with here. Unions are in some cases run by the Mafia....I know my branch of the IBEW was, based out of Rhode Island. These people do not like pencil-neck nerds that hang out on ZH and talk tough....they not only talk tough, they are. You can talk about "killing" somebody in some kind of short ruse based on a derivative play...when they talk about killing, they talk about your blood flowing as they laugh.
I don't necessarily agree with what they're protesting for, but I cheer them on because it's lively, determined, and they aren't at home watching TV feeling apathetic.
I have always believed that government workers should be paid a percentage of what private workers get paid in wages and benefits. It should cost you to work for the government. That way your motives for taking the job are more on serving people and not taking advantage of them.
Having said that, I do not agree with what they are protesting for, but our government has been quite effective at silencing groups so that there is no opposition to their crimes. Like giving churhces non profit statis, but not allowing them to be political. It is very difficult in the US to organize against the government. However we need too and soon.
UNIONS AND OBAMA........EPIC FAIL!
Wait till this gets to the bigger states - meanwhile Libya, Spain, Greece get all the headlines for the mainstream - always enjoy the witty repertoire in the morning on ZH :)
Remember the good old days - like last year - when the media portrayed the Red Team as "sore losers" because they didn't immediately and enthusiastically sign-on to every last one of The Teleprompter's idiotic ideas? And the Tea Party was branded as "dangerous, violent, racist almost-terrorists" because they had a couple of well-attended, entirely non-violent protests and, maybe, called some CongressCritter a bad name?
Those were good times, weren't they?
The sheeple flock is attacked on the right by the Republithugs. They veer left. The Demwolves slash their flanks and they run back right! The Rethugs snap again and the flock skitters left. The Demwolves catch the jumpers in mid-air and devour them. It's a feeding frenzy! The flock is confused and terrified. They bicker and nip one another. They slow down, and finally they stand and be sheared.
Where the hell are the Pinkertons? Get them in there with some rubber bullets and some tear gas. Show these low-life thugs who really is in charge. Half the "protesters" aren't even from Wisconsin; they are the "professional protesters" that the cabal of socialist organizations truck all over the country for support.
It's not a revolution without a marching band. Jeez
Of the 2000 people there
1999 paid union thug/terrorists who work the census when they aren't beating up innocent people.
1 union guy handing out envelopes
Fucking losers - as a taxpayer and a parent with kids in schools I am sick and tired of the boondoggle.
Fire them all and start over. At least now we arrest the POS's if they organize. Bout damn time.
Your children are still going to get a shit education.
When the national guard comes home from overseas "adventures" it will be due to civil unrest and escallation of activites here!