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IAEA Injury And Contamination Update

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Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:39 | 1066263 Ben Probanke
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somebody here is looking to become the king of the junk

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:43 | 1066283 in-Credible Banker
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But I'll be playing golf today..........on a beautiful day.  It is a GREAT DAY! 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:46 | 1066288 Ben Probanke
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you working part time for CNBC?

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 10:07 | 1066369 jomama
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you might as well type in bold and italics how out of touch with the gravity of reality you are...

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 10:13 | 1066389 in-Credible Banker
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Really?  Don't think so.  I'm just sick of reading all this crap about farm land in the US being permanently despoiled.  That radiation zombies will be emerging from the Pacific. 


If true, I want to hear it.  But if you are going to say it, cite it.  Simple as that. 


And - eff all of you for junking me.  The sun is shining.  It is a GREAT DAY!!

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 10:24 | 1066446 TomJoad
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I went out last night to get away from ZH for a bit an have some sushi (while the non-radioactive stuff is still available) and see what the "man on the street" take was on the Japan nuclear situation. At my favorite sushi bar were a group of 6 upper management types. (probably from one of the many local defense contractors, Lockheed-Martin in this case i believe)  Through my entire dinner all these jackasses did was tell golf stories. Loud, drunken golf stories. Not even good stories, but the JVP's were seriously toadying up to the loud "elder statesman" of the group and laughing at everything he said.  I wasn't expecting trouble so I was only carrying a .380 Seecamp with 6 rounds. Sadly I must report that I let them all depart unharmed, though I did call a cop friend of mine who was on shift with the tag number, description, and direction of travel of the loudest and drunkest of the assholes in his CL550.


Jump! You Fuckers!

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 10:39 | 1066500 chunga
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+10,000 Quatloos

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 10:58 | 1066563 Triggernometry
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I like the .380, very easy to carry though I prefer Sigs myself. My little P238 has the cleanest trigger I've ever shot, the mags are so small its never an issue to have an extra in a pocket.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:42 | 1066790 davepowers
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well played

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 10:31 | 1066467 tmosley
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Today is a great day.  Tomorrow, less so.

But hey, you get in that last round of golf before the collapse comes.  More supplies for those who are conscious enough to get them.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:29 | 1066724 in-Credible Banker
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I got the supplies TMOS.  All good.


All I am saying is.....when these jerks talk about a calamity as if it is certain to happen or already has, and its effects are already manifest, cite the souce.  To say the entire midwest will be unable to produce food is stupid.  There are claims such as this on these boards. 


Go ahead and keep preparing.  I'm already done.  Meantime - I am going to have a blast watching the NCAA's.


It is a GREAT DAY!!


Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:33 | 1066752 DarkAgeAhead
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Actually, at current rates of soil erosion and aquifer depletion, it's only a matter of time before the midwest is unable to produce food.




Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:55 | 1066335 curbyourrisk
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Mission accomplished


This guy is as bad as HarryWanker

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 10:09 | 1066383 BurningFuld
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An interesting paper written in 2000. For anyone who thinks the concern here is misplaced.


Because of the unavailability of off-site storage for spent power-reactor fuel, the NRC has allowed high-density storage of spent fuel in pools originally designed to hold much smaller inventories. As a result, virtually all U.S. spent-fuel pools have been re-racked to hold spent-fuel assemblies at densities that approach those in reactor cores. In order to prevent the spent fuel from going critical, the fuel assemblies are partitioned off from each other in metal boxes whose walls contain neutron-absorbing boron. It has been known for more than two decades that, in case of a loss of water in the pool, convective air cooling would be relatively ineffective in such a “dense-packed” pool. Spent fuel recently discharged from a reactor could heat up relatively rapidly to temperatures at which the zircaloy fuel cladding could catch ?re and the fuel’s volatile ?ssion products, including 30-year half-life 137Cs, would be released. The ?re could well spread to older spent fuel. The long-term land-contamination consequences of such an event could be signi?cantly worse than those from Chernobyl.

No such event has occurred thus far. However, the consequences would affect such a large area that alternatives to dense-pack storage must be examined.


Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:40 | 1066269 Misean
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+1. The FUD is running thick.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:43 | 1066281 romanko
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who do you think you are trying to rain on our doomsday-orgy-circle-jerk!?!

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:49 | 1066302 DarkAgeAhead
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The world shall renew itself, in 200,000 to 400,000 human generations.  It's us as a species, with most others, that are fading into evolutionary oblivion.

Source: Millennium Ecosystem Assessment, www.maweb.org - I highly recommend the "Overall Synthesis" under the Synthesis Reports list, specifically its four main conclusions.

Also, lighter reading - www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,956626,00.html

The Bills may actuallly win a SuperBowl before the world ends.  Man, I hate the City of Buffalo.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:59 | 1066342 in-Credible Banker
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Really?  Whatever. 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 10:22 | 1066428 DarkAgeAhead
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You asked.  And the "Death of Birth" pretty much covers it.

Only people from Buffalo love Buffalo.  Something in the water, or genetic drift from Canada across the "Peace Bridge" I'd guess.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:49 | 1066305 oh_bama
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The BOJ is just stupid! BOJ, PLEASE, do another QE! Only 1 quadrillion yen would be more than ENOUGH!!

In this situation, it requires heroic measures. BOJ must come up with decisive, civilization scale QE to stop the panic and fight the disaster!


Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:48 | 1066306 morph
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What do you expect from the hollywood blockbuster generation?

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:56 | 1066337 The Profit Prophet
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The world wide Elite controlled ponzi financial system is about to collapse due to a black swan nuclear catastrophe in Japan!!!

      - The Profit Prophet: ZeroHedge.com comment post: March 17, 2011

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 10:01 | 1066350 Calculated_Risk
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"The world is coming to an end.



Thu, 03/17/2011 - 10:12 | 1066385 The Profit Prophet
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Great minds think alike....hey....where did the Banker's crazy roses and sunshine post go????

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 10:40 | 1066510 DarkAgeAhead
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If he's a banker actually in Buffalo, I'd guess that the firewall at the local HSBC branch he clerks at just blocked ZeroHedge.

But wondering the same thing...do posts automatically disappear after sufficient junking or something?

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 10:02 | 1066351 AN0NYM0US
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not to worry, TD has been tied up in meetings for the past few days and left GW in charge of postings, next up the Supermoon


Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:41 | 1066258 VyseLegendaire
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- a kitten received minor wounds, was patched up and patted on the head

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:38 | 1066259 trav7777
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I want IEAE to stand up some gd'd dosimeters.  The absence of information regarding radiation levels has made it very hard to figure out the hour-to-hour and day-to-day situation.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:46 | 1066270 etrader
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Take a guess from latest sat image...(16th March updates)

Number 2 is now smoking.


 The  power cord , duck tape & paper clips might just fix it! :eek:

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:39 | 1066262 HelluvaEngineer
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Sorry, I call BS.  They have to have engineers losing their hair and coughing blood by now.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:41 | 1066273 Misean
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That would be useful information. You have a source?

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:51 | 1066314 Misean
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Yes? That's a tribute to the bravery (unquestioned by me) of those working the area. And?

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:42 | 1066278 Kina
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Andrew Thomas, our correspondent in Tokyo, just tweeted: 

Two big aftershocks in the space of the last half hour - and both close to the original 'Big One's' epicentre



Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:57 | 1066334 Stormdancer
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USGS is showing a 5.6 and a 5.9 right about that time.  Might have rattled 'em a bit but those aren't big enough to do anything serious to Japanese built infrastructure.  And there have been literally dozens of aftershocks in that range since the big one.  More to come I'm sure....

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:43 | 1066280 alpds
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What's the latest on BOFA's emails?

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:45 | 1066290 Frank Redner
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Im relative new here and like some of the more informed articles but all the doomers comments about parabolic apeshit.... etc... will bring this site down in the long run.

I guess this has been a great place once and i really hope it will be again.

Does anyone know of some similar site with a closed user system?


Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:52 | 1066317 romanko
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there used to be great insight in the discussions here, until Japan - now it's all a bunch of unemployed 20 somethings jacking off in their mom's basement just drolling at the prospect of a nuclear holocaust to double the spot price of their 5 silver eagles

come on, look at the number of "casualties" above - compare that to the 13000+ deaths from the earthquake/tsnamni - oops, sorry for the momentary laps of objectivity

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 10:02 | 1066353 Jim in MN
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This site would suck without a bunch of crazy people on it.  The nuclear industry has come to this sorry pass due to echo chambers and self-important bullshit.  So has the financial industry, which is why this site exists. 

Signals.  It is all signals.  You are a signal.  They are signals.

Find the pattern.  You can't find the pattern by throwing out half the data.

Tail risk events are of great interest here.  Too many people discount the tail risk scenarios.  Life would be easier if the systems we rely on didn't constantly fuck up basic risk management.  It is because of that constant state of fuckedupness that posters at Zero Hedge drill down on what 'the system' is missing and whether OR NOT it might be important.

Hope this helps.  It is a nice day, by the way.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:53 | 1066324 redpill
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Try Whitehouse.gov They are monitoring the situation and are very calm. Closed user system too (at least until Anon decides to make an example of them) By the way, didn't you mother ever tell you that nobody likes a whiner?

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:55 | 1066332 papaswamp
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Bet you were one of those people that read the Nat Geo article in 2004 predicting the disaster in New Orleans and said...'that can't happen'. One year later Katrina hits. Sure many claims of doom and gloom are far fetched on here, but to ignore them and go to some place 'closed' so you will only hear what you want to is exactly how disasters like this one are able to occur and get out of control. Go Ostrich if it makes you feel better. 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 10:17 | 1066405 Frank Redner
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It really would help if doomers commit to what they are saying. I have no problem if someone post his parabolic apeship comments and is 100K short and it has meaning. But i guess thats not the case here. A lot people are ranting without any commitment to anything.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:56 | 1066333 underpants
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I'm not sure, but that's a good idea.  You should start one.  Just don't forget to seal it off from the rest of us.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 09:58 | 1066344 Johnny Lawrence
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Website suggestions: ml.com, ubs.com, mssb.com, jpmorgan.com

You won't see any doomers on those websites.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 10:10 | 1066384 kridkrid
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Paid troll, right?  Does the post actually make sense?  Why would someone who is "relatively new here" actually care about "bringing down the site in the long run"?  Why go through the trouble of A. Registering to post, and then B. Posting?  Perhaps Frank is a product of the Air Force's new toy.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 10:22 | 1066440 Frank Redner
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Wow, im here to bring the site down and im secretly on an Air Force agenda. Yes, Yes and Yes you are right. They print me lots of cash and i enjoy my lifestyle. Again, ZeroHedge looking right through my soul.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 10:59 | 1066566 kridkrid
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So why do you care.  Why the self righteous indignation over what people want to talk about?  And no... my position isn't that you are here to bring down the site... YOUR position was that have a comment to make that would hopefully SAVE the site.  That was you who feigned concern that talk here was going to bring it down.  Your voice of reason in an otherwise unreasonable place. 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 10:55 | 1066558 TWORIVER
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only if they have been cultivating him




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