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IAEA Knew Within Weeks of Japanese Earthquake that Reactors Had Melted Down ... Public Not Told for a Month and a Half
As I noted last week, reactors 1, 2 and 3 all melted down within hours of the Japanese earthquake.
On Monday, Mainchi Daily News provided an important tidbit:
A
meltdown occurred at one of the reactors at the Fukushima No. 1
Nuclear Power Plant three and a half hours after its cooling system
started malfunctioning, according to the result of a simulation using
"severe accident" analyzing software developed by the Idaho National
Laboratory.
Chris Allison [a former manager and technical leader
at Idaho National Laboratory], who had actually developed the analysis
and simulation software, reported the result to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) in late March.
It was only May 15 when Tokyo Electric Power Co. (TEPCO) admitted for
the first time that a meltdown had occurred at the No. 1 reactor at the
Fukushima nuclear plant.
According to Allison's report obtained
by the Mainichi, the simulation was based on basic data on light-water
nuclear reactors at the Laguna Verde Nuclear Power Plant in Mexico that
are about the same size as that of the No. 1, 2, and 3 reactors in
Fukushima.
According to the simulation, the reactor core started
melting about 50 minutes after the emergency core cooling system of the
No. 1 reactor stopped functioning and the injection of water into the
reactor pressure vessel came to a halt. About an hour and 20 minutes
later, the control rod and pipes used to gauge neutrons started melting
and falling onto the bottom of the pressure vessel. After about three
hours and 20 minutes, most of the melted fuel had piled up on the
bottom of the pressure vessel. At the four hour and 20 minute mark, the
temperature of the bottom of the pressure vessel had risen to 1,642
degrees Celsius, close to the melting point for the stainless steel
lining, probably damaging the pressure vessel.
In
other words, the IAEA knew in late March that there was a meltdown.
The IAEA informs all of its member states of important nuclear
developments.
Government agencies sat on this information, and the
world didn't learn the truth until the operator of the stricken
reactors itself made the announcement a month and a half later.
This is not entirely surprising given that governments have been covering up nuclear meltdowns for fifty years to protect the nuclear industry.
H/t: Ex-Skf
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>Where did this story go??
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/fukushima-reactor-1-drywell-reading-hits-al
There is this thing, conveniently placed for all and sundry, called a search box.
Voila!
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/fukushima-reactor-1-drywell-reading-hit...
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As we've discussed over recent weeks time is not on their side. The site continues to decay (and to decay)...yesterday the nitrogen injection pump failed and was replaced, and the replacement pump failed, leaving Unit 1 with no nitrogen injection for four hours. Fortunately there was no new hydrogen explosion.
Now we have this: the place they're putting the radioactive water that's leaked out of the reactors is, itself, leaking. That is a show stopper for the moment.
TEPCO probes into possible leak at Fukushima
The operator of Japan's troubled nuclear plant is trying to determine where contaminated water from a waste disposal facility is leaking to, after finding that the water level inside the facility has dropped.
Tokyo Electric Power Company has been removing highly radioactive water from the Fukushima Daiichi plant's crippled reactors to the waste disposal facility within the compound.
The utility suspended the transfer from the No.3 reactor on Thursday and checked the water level in its section of the disposal facility.
Engineers learned that the water level had dropped by 4.8 centimeters over a 20-hour period, meaning some 57 tons of water has been lost.
The utility says it inspected inside the disposal facility and found contaminated water leaking to a passageway leading to another building.
TEPCO attributes the problem to a failure to stop the water leaking before the transfer began.
Thursday, May 26, 2011 19:57 +0900 (JST)
but but but...carl denigger said this was all media hype to sell iodine pills in california...!?!?!?!?!?!
http://www.fairewinds.com/updates
So, when the fuck did nuclear power turn into a religous war, and why do so many of you hate humanity?
So what about Tokyo? Such a concentrated mass of humanity just going about their business, in complete denial? I know that reported levels there, right now, are on the low side but if this continues to spew for the next, who knows? 8 months? Would the constant exposure add up to something a lot more sinister? Someone said it above "Psychopaths in charge of the world". There are no leaders - and we are all fucked.
… based on simulation of a mexican nuclear power plant…
Huh?
Fukushima is a standard design in use in several plants in the US.
The failure in Fukushima #1 was likely related to the earthquake. During the quake a pipe to the reactor ruptured and in turn the cooling failed.
This has way worse implications for the nuclear industry then failure due to a tsunami because it affects most nuclear plants worldwide.
The conclusion stems from an Japanese engineer who combined readings from reactor pressure, reactor water level and containment pressure.
source in german, published May 16:
http://www.berlinonline.de/berliner-zeitung/katastrophe-in-japan/344495/...
We can do something, however minimal, to stop further construction of nuclear power plants in the US.
SENATE ENERGY COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER "CLEAN ENERGY" BANK BILL TOMORROW--MAY 26, 2011
BANK WOULD ENABLE UNLIMITED TAXPAYER FUNDING OF NEW NUCLEAR REACTOR CONSTRUCTION
ACT NOW TO BLOCK "CEDA"!
The Senate Energy Committee is scheduled to consider tomorrow--May 26, 2011--a bill establishing a new "clean energy" bank called the Clean Energy Development Administration (CEDA).
Unfortunately, this "clean energy" bank is anything but a source for funding genuinely clean energy. In fact, both new nuclear reactors and certain coal projects would be eligible for unlimited taxpayer backed loans if this bank were to be realized. Take action now: tell your Senators to reject CEDA unless nuclear power and coal are removed.
A press release from our friends at Union of Concerned Scientists with more background on CEDA is here.
Please act quickly and tell your Senators--especially if they are on the Energy Committee (members listed below)--to reject CEDA as currently written. There is nothing "clean" about nuclear power, as a glance at any photo of Fukushima should make clear. Unless nuclear power and dirty coal are taken out of the CEDA program, it should be defeated.
If one of your Senators is on the Energy Committee (members listed below), please also call him/her today and urge him/her to reject CEDA unless nuclear and coal are removed from the program. Senate switchboard: 202-224-3121.
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Mary L. Landrieu (LA)
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Bernard Sanders (I) (VT)
Debbie Stabenow (MI)
Mark Udall (CO)
Jeanne Shaheen (NH)
Al Franken (MN)
Joe Manchin (WV)
Christopher A. Coons (DE)
Republicans:
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Yes, and we have simulations that say the Earth has warmed-up by 6 degrees and we're all underwater, and we have simulations that say we're all frozen to death in a new mini ice-age. Someone having a simulation result does not mean the IAEA "knew" there was a meltdown.
Yes, and we have simulations that say the Earth has warmed-up by 6 degrees and we're all underwater, and we have simulations that say we're all frozen to death in a new mini ice-age. Someone having a simulation result does not mean the IAEA "knew" there was a meltdown.
we all saw this one coming from GW yesterday. he's so predictable. there will be more nuclear power plants worldwide in 45 years time; not fewer.
get over yourself, GW
there will be a lot more people, a lot more murder and a lot more corruption in the future too. What's your point? That current designs are safe? That our governments in collusion with powerful energy corporations don't lie to us, don't endanger us, don't steal from us, don't suppress alternatives and competition? In the end, Bond did work for his government.
Lmao. It would seem like a no-brainer to err on the side of the caution and self preservation with regards to the simulations. But eh, that's just me.
Thank you GW.
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You are doing essential work with all that you reveal.Georgie, if you needed to be explicitly *told* that the cores had partially or fully melted, you're *exactly* the kind of knucklehead who shouldn't be given too much information, too early.
read the headline again, that's not his point. It's more like... the points he's been making in a lot of other articles
I failed to detect a point beyond a sophomoric "Guv'mints R bad and lie to you, mmmkay?"
Nobody in Japan was the *least* bit surprised to learn the cores had, indeed, melted to some degree. (the radioactivity in leaked water required nothing less)
Sure, it was front page news -- for one whole day, and struck with all the unpexpectedness of a ripe fart after a hearty meal of sausage and beer.
There is a very big difference between running a computer simulation that shows a nuclear reactor has melted down and actually physically going into the reactor and seeing that it has melted down. Computer simulations can be wrong. Don't people on ZH realize this?
When you're being lied to on a galactic scale, and no one in his right mind would try to "take a look", simulations are extremely helpful. Not everyone at ZH is a nuclear expert, but there are enough well educated people to have a common sense approach to this issue. I am not an expert in reactor design or failure, but I studied and worked in nuclear physics at Berkeley.
The reactors aren't even the biggest threat to public safety, the spent fuel pools are. Arnie Gunderson has theorized that a "moderated prompt criticality" occurred in fuel pool 3 (the one with the MOX fuel, unfortunately). This is a low grade nuclear reaction (compared to an atomic bomb), that generates enough heat in a very short period of time to create a large explosion (deflagration, as Arnie points out so well). It is likely that the spent fuel rods were blown to bits and scattered for kilometers. The huge dust cloud from units 3's explosion therefore contained uranium, plutonium and copious quantities of fission daughter products, which was carried away on the wind to god knows where.
We are being lied to, and the lies are threatening our health here in the United states. This is a travesty. Perhaps it has always been this way, but I don't care, we need to purge this rank criminality from our public services ... NOW.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kLZRyfvfjI
As I understand it, this was not a simulation.
Have you seen the videos?
This should help prove the case of how nuclear the explosions are. Or just go listen to Arnie Gunderson.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jjfrKSyrdo
25 Rules of Disinformation...
http://seenoevilspeaknoevilhearnoevil.blogspot.com/2011/05/25-rules-of-d...
using corporation and integrity in the same sentence is as much an oxymoron as business ethics.
IKEA has more "integrity" than IAEA
Clever..... but find me one item from Ikea thats not made in China and then you have a point. Otherwise they are all crooks... out for the money
It seems as though the Fukushima accident is going to bring down the Merkel government. The FDP/ CDU coalition have been consistently losing votes to the Green party, mostly switching from FDP to Green. The German government was the only one to acknowledge the severity of the situation and take steps, and yet they are still punished.
What's the lesson for other governments? If you create a press blackout, and ignore the issues, most voters are too stupid to realize the truth, therefore lying and censorship works. Democracy founders on the rocks of indifference and apathy...
Maybe it shows that countries without Green Parties are extra fucked.
Green parties quickly become contaminated and turn to more political bullshit.
The only true green parties are the banks celebrating their heists.
I love the smell of a pun in the morning
smells like...what's the opposite of victory?
repete:
Ditto.
Psychopaths in charge everywhere.
.
at least with psychopaths you have twice the personalities on the job
wtfyouxpect?
I expect the same to keep happening until honesty becomes more profitable than deceit. In the meantime, keep stacking.
Btw- the one hundred trillion dollar note is a gem, I carry one in my wallet and it sees frequent use edumicating people of any currency's limit as t approaches infinity.
The video footage of the explosions would have been a clue, though. They finally turned off the camera before unit 4 exploded. These were not small explosions, they destroyed sizeable reinforced-concrete buildings. Hydrogen for the explosions had to come from somewhere, and the logical place was from the zirconium tubes.
So, you could put it together: hydrogen = no zirconium any more = loose fuel pellets = pileup in the bottom of the reactor = meltdown.
What infuriates me is that, despite all this alleged advanced robotic technology, they have done almost nothing about it ten weeks later. Exposed core material, both from the pressure vessels and the cooling pools, is simply sitting around spewing. Futhermore, they persisted in dumping water on the stuff to "cool" it after it had melted down.
By this time in the Chernobyl disaster, the Russians were working to bury the melted core material in sand, lead, clay, and borax.
Yep. Once all the nuclear plants were literally exploding, you had to figure something was horribly wrong. --despite mass media reports to the contrary.
that's the funny thing about the russians, they lie but they fix it.
Ps. are there troll junkers? are they paid less? I mean, they don't have to say anything just click.
The Corporates & Governments Lie and People Die
this is and has been the way of the world for centuries
However it has reached critial mass now...... I have been following Fukushima since the start and have found serveral websites that keep my up to date. Besides the Ex-skf, Fiatfire, Enenews, ZH, lWH several others have popped up. People are becoming informed now thanks to the internet and site like those. You learn something new everyday.
check out this site: http://www.fairewinds.com/updates
They've done great analysis of the situation.
I need an esquire to File Suit in Federal Court Against the U.S. Government.. more over the President of the United States of America. Pro Bono in the name of Fight Club!
The Law Suit is for breach of the Constitution for bringing home the U.S. Army and now Training the U.S. Army to operate Against "We the People".
Who wants to get some T.V. face time for themselves and for Tyler here.. we want warm bodies to educate we have to up our visible profile.
I am looking for feedback and ideas to make as big a splash as possible! so if you have something that will help, speak up! even if you think its small! speak up! every little thing matters and helps! SO PLEASE!!! Speak Up!
Yes. Well done.
What you see is a standard playbook for how to report mass tragedies to the public. It's the same as the BP oil spill. In short, they under-report the incident, announce plans to fix everything shortly, and then later, slowly admit things are worse and more time is needed.
What's scary about Japan, is that their best estimates of having things contained are still ~eight months away. IMO, this translates to Never. (It won't be simple to entomb something on the coast of an earthquake/tsunami zone. And they haven't even started trying yet.)
Don't forget Katrina, where they not only under-reported at first, but FEMA had cordoned off the whole region not allowing any people or supplies in. Well, except for Blackwater...
I was there - visiting. We ditched our airplane tickets, rented a car, and fled the city in the middle of the night in a counterflow lane, w/ the hurricane bearing down. Everyone else got stuck in traffic b/c the cops wouldn't let anyone on the counterflow of I-10 to Texas except at one specific location in the city. If you didn't know an insider to tell you where, you got stuck. And there was a manned police car at every other exit/entrance to make sure.
Afterwards, it was just like you said. Nothing allowed in. I had an uncle who stayed home to drink beer on his front porch (our old house was built on stilts 120 years ago). The national guard kidnapped him (not kidding) and airlifted him to San Antonio, where we had to go pick him up. Another uncle snuck back into the city to get his clothes, and was surrounded by guards at his house pointing guns at him in case he was a looter. (They let him drive out though). All but one of my relatives never moved back. (my family had been there since the first settlement in the late 1600s)
So when I post on ZH that it's smart to keep get-out-of-town bags, it's not a hypothetical. We've lived it once before, right in New Orleans.
(Katrina wasn't supposed to hit New Orleans, but turned suddenly the day before - we had 1 day's notice.)