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You asked for it, and here it is - a fully interactive Japan wind map which includes forecasting up to 3 days forward. By the looks of things, the Jetstream is about to start glowing in the dark.

We urge readers open the map with Chrome to use the autotranslate functions, as the text is in Japanese.

And in case one map is not enough, here is another interactive map of wind formations:

h/t Jason

 

 

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Tue, 03/15/2011 - 16:17 | 1057075 trav7777
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the rad levels ARE rising?  We know they have risen...can you point me to a recitation of what they are now?  I ask bc I'd sure like to know as information like that is probative in assessing whether conditions continue to worsen.

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 15:18 | 1056780 SparkyvonBellagio
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The West Coast USA has been gathering evidence that Chinese smog has been having an impact.

 

Maybe people should check into those facts, then make an assumption if that can make it, then radiation could possibly make it across the great Pacific.

 

Stay tuned for mention of the "New" Tourist attraction the Los Angeles/SanFran Borealis.

 

 

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 15:47 | 1056946 TeamAmerica
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Radiation and smog are very different.   Smog is caused by gaseous chemicals and fine particulates.   Radiation is energy emitted by particles - in the case of a reactor meltdown those are solid particles that tend to be relatively heavy.  They don't travel far on the wind...they "fall out", hence the name. 

Once we understand the facts, we realize that your assumption is baseless and we ought to know better.

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 16:43 | 1057154 calltoaccount
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double post -- 

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 16:41 | 1057155 calltoaccount
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Their thesis: "It makes sense-- if you don't think about it!"

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 16:51 | 1057188 geekgrrl
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If your assertion was true, and heavy atoms/molecules/particles are unable to be transported globally, then please explain how lead has been continuously deposited in Greenland from mining snd smelting for the last 5000 years?

See: Hong S., et.al (1994) Greenland Ice Evidence of Hemispheric Lead Pollution Two Millenia Ago By Greek and Roman Civilizations. Science. vol 265. 23 September 1994. p. 1841-3.

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 18:21 | 1057543 Jim in MN
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The man knows nothing.  Mercury is famous for global transport.  Need to know the specifics for any given substance.  Logic doesn't cut it for stuff like this==need facts.

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 18:55 | 1057683 TeamAmerica
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I'm talking facts, calmly and logically.   Are you?

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 02:45 | 1059626 geekgrrl
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Facts? I reference a scientific paper in the journal Science of all places, and you claim you are talking facts? That's funny because what I see are unsubstantiated assertions without any empirical evidence. Calm = being paid. Logically = NewSpeak for completely inverting the facts.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 04:17 | 1059630 geekgrrl
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duplicate

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 18:34 | 1057598 BigJim
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Oh, that's quite different. Ya see, radioactive particles have higher rates of brownian motion due to firing off all those neutrons. The brownian motion makes them disproportionately heavier, so they sink quicker than the lightweight lead you're talking about.

Ain't that so, TeamAmerika?

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 19:11 | 1057735 TeamAmerica
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Nothing like a person trying to sound smart when they're spouting nonsense.  One more time - we are not talking about individual atoms, so your "brownian motion" quip is a total non-sequitur.

But just for you, I can theorize that a plutonium atom is going to escape from Fukushima and be blown however many thousands of miles downwind you happen to be and land in your beer.  You are completely right to be scared, because that atom has your name on it.

Now the question for you: is your life in danger from that single atom of plutonium?  How say ye, Mr. Smartypants?

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 19:18 | 1057754 slewie the pi-rat
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Team Am., you get the shitforbained moronic asswipe of the day, award!  TONS of competition, for some reason, too.

i wonder if the reason could be that ZH is the only place on the planet where people are currently involved in intelligent discussions of real problems and issues? 

ya know if i'd just spent decades trying to lie to people about safety and this happened, i'd send out the trolls, too. 

nuclear waste safety?  lol!  every bit of fuel that was ever used at this site might still be there!  what could be easier?  what could be cheaper?  what could be better for the bottom line?  what could be more embarassing for a bunch of japanese "scientists" who spent entire careers being more concerned about "social and business conditioning, conventions, and appearances" than nuclear safety

shameful, really.  the whole fuking society seems to want to protect these "team players" from revealing the FACTS about what the hell is happening and how the fuck anyone could do anything this styooopid.  when zH's ask questions, the trolls just multiply.  doesn't change anything, tho, does it?

just give us the facts about the site and the reactors, fuels, wastes, and temps, and keep us informed.  you should be embarassed and ashamed!  the biggest nuclear and possibly environmental accident in the history of the planet happened to Y-O-U.  yeah, there was a tsunami!  now, what tf are we dealing with here, please, ladies and gentlemen from japan?

put your cards on the table face up, please, and step back so we can see them clearly, please. 

NOW!!!

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:12 | 1058598 TeamAmerica
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Ace of Spades, sir.  Five of them.  I always win.

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 18:53 | 1057673 TeamAmerica
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We are discussing particles, not atoms.   Lead deposited in Greenland in vanishingly small quantities that are only detectable with modern instrumentation.   It did not kill the fish and birds...and that's my point.

I'm not saying radiation cannot reach around the globe (it can).  I'm saying it cannot arrive here in significant quantities, hence all the worry is needless.

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 18:58 | 1057690 ColonelCooper
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CANNOT arrive here in significant quantities, or WON'T IN THIS INSTANCE regardless of how FUBAR this gets?

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 15:16 | 1056786 majia
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Panicked residents start to flee Tokyo as radiation levels rise after THIRD blast at stricken nuclear power plant

By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 7:10 PM on 15th March 2011

 Radiation leaking directly into the air from stricken Fukushima nuclear plant

  • Power station has now suffered three reactor explosions and one fire
  • One reactor core 'exposed to the atmosphere' through crack in containment wall
  • Radiation levels up to ten times higher than normal in Tokyo
  • Mass exodus as  thousands residents flee towns close to reactor
  • Experts warn of cancer risk
  • Japan seeks help from U.S. to spray water on over-heating reactors from helicopters

Scores of terrified residents began to flee Tokyo today as a nuclear power plant destroyed by the tsunami threatened to send a cloud of radioactive dust across Japan.

The Fukushima Dai-ichi plant suffered a third reactor explosion last night, another reactor on the site caught fire  - and officials today announced the wall of one reactor was cracked.

Radiation levels have soared acoss the country as radioactive material spewed directly into the atmosphere while emergency crews fought to avoid a catastrophic meltdown.

Levels of radiation were ten times higher than

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1366308/Japan-earthquake-tsunami-Meltdown-3rd-reactor-blast-hits-nuclear-plant.html#ixzz1GhI7dFDc

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 15:20 | 1056805 espirit
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Godzilla?... he's back!

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 15:21 | 1056818 bob_dabolina
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  • Japan seeks help from U.S. to spray water on over-heating reactors from helicopters
  • To give you an idea how fucked the situation is.

    Squirt guns and helicopters....

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 15:41 | 1056926 scratch_and_sniff
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    they will be pissing on it next...

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 16:28 | 1057108 trav7777
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    I had thought they might use fireboats, but maybe there are none nearby enough to make a difference.

    At this point, all efforts must be made to prevent a significant fire, even if this means some radionuclides end up in the ocean.

    The boiling off of spent fuel storage pond water is more likely what has spiked the radiation levels, and this situation makes continued manual core cooling impossible for workers due to exposure.

    The issue of #2 having cracked is less significant, because spent fuel rods with no water on them are "exposed to the atmosphere" and these have come out of a core and contain the same stuff.

    If significant amounts of contaminants are in the atmosphere, these will show up on distant dosimeters and a shit lot higher than this "10x normal" crap that we're seeing hyped.

    At this point, however, TEPCO should consider letting these things just melt, but do everything possible to prevent major fire at all costs.  If they could melt this shit down into a large puddle right now without a fire starting or any explosions, they'd take it on all 4 reactors and the stored fuel.  This would disperse the residual decay heat which is the cause of all of these problems.  The complex would be hot as hell for a long time, but then the chernobyl complex continues to operate even though its core eventually melted down and ran through piping like lava

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 16:42 | 1057158 scratch_and_sniff
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    That Nuclear reactor textbook you picked up at the sale finally came in handy trav...beats my suggestion of taking a piss on it, i suppose.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 16:51 | 1057182 malikai
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    Letting them melt might be ok for the reactors, provided they could contain the gasses, but they cannot. The fission product gasses must be vented into the atmosphere along with the water vapor, which is unacceptable.

    They must not let the storage pools melt. They have 5+years worth of spent fuel in those pools. If the water would dissapear, and the fuel elements melt down, who is to say that big puddle wouldn't go critical? Is that storage pool designed to handle a fuel element+burning zircalloy lava? I doubt it.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 19:56 | 1057905 slewie the pi-rat
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    are you referring to one of the six storage pools, each with decades of nuke waste in them, probably, or the pool of "tiger butter" if everything melts into one fondue?  the latter, it seems, but, then, should you not include the mox in #3, which included the plutonium?

    MOX fuel rods used in Japanese Nuclear Reactor present multiple dangers

    this link points out that "The mixed oxide fuel rods used in the compromised number three reactor at the Fukushima Daiichi complex contain enough plutonium to threaten public health with the possibility of inhalation of airborne plutonium particles. The compromised fuel rods supplied to the Tokyo Electric Company by the French firm AREVA."

    here is some of the thinking behind using mox: "One reason proponents of MOX reactor fuel support its use is because, once the fuel is burned in a reactor, it is so hot that terrorists would not be able to steal a fuel assembly."

    wow!  what logic!  this shit is so dangerous BECAUSE it enhances our "war on terror".  really?  this french company wouldn't have anything to do with the banksters and the secret "intelligence" services i'll bet, either!

    “When the plutonium in the fuel rods goes into a reactor for commercial power, a very little of it is going to be consumed. I don’t know what percentage, maybe half percentage or something like that, but it’s going to generate an extraordinary amount of contamination throughout the fuel rods…,” says William Lawler, an expert on radioactive waste.

    Lawless, who worked at the DOE’s Savannah River Site and first exposed massive contamination there in the early 1980s, says MOX being used as a way of controlling weapons proliferation is a myth: “You will decrease the amount of plutonium minutely but you will increase the amount of waste inside the fuel rod greatly into something that is very contaminated for a long period of time and they think is that it would be too deadly to handle for a terrorist…This is not necessarily following the best scientific plan or the best engineering decision; this is more a political decision, the MOX.”

    somebody wants to talk about the dangers and how fuking styoopid this is, half the fuking pentagon probaly comes onsite, here.  FUK you and the banksters, rothchilds, and israeli mossad, too!  these trolls have their heads so far up their asses, they must be at least full bird colonels, altho some of them seem like CW3's who are even more pig-headed and narrow-minded than colonels, but can fly rotary winged aircraft or something.    go to the officers' club and relax, you dickwads!

    somebody sez they don't like being downwind of this shit and spiders start dropping from the lights in the ceiling to tell US we are irrational and "UNSCIENTIFIC", our memories are hazy, and we don't know what an atom is compared to dust, and, btw, what if a particle of plutonium is marked for you?  is that yer problem?

    your doubts are real, mali.  certifiable, too, or this cunt wouldn't spend all day doing this with her "little friends", now, would she?

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 17:30 | 1057323 PenchantForHoarding
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    I had thought they might use fireboats, but maybe there are none nearby enough to make a difference.

    Um, likely most of those, not to mention the bulk of the commercial/fishing/pleasurecraft fleet have been washed inland and thoroughly trashed by a little thing called the tsunami.

    At this point, however, TEPCO should consider letting these things just melt, but do everything possible to prevent major fire at all costs.  If they could melt this shit down into a large puddle right now without a fire starting or any explosions, they'd take it on all 4 reactors and the stored fuel.

    Huh?  That is absolutely retarded.  Seriously...

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 18:38 | 1057611 BigJim
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    Trav, your penchant for leaping down the throat of anyone who questions your peak-oil alarmism, and your obvious deep interest in nuclear power, leads me to ask:

    Are you a nuclear energy industry shill?

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:06 | 1058557 trav7777
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    Peak oil is real.  It has happened in most oil-producing nations already.  It appears to have occurred globally for C&C.

    I am NO fan of nuclear power.  Anyone who has read what I have written on this topic knows that I have CLEARLY called out lightwater reactors as inherently unsafe and inferior as compared to pebble bed reactors for terrestrial power generation and that the only reason we are using these things instead of PBMR for this purpose is essentially because of Hyman Rickover's need for nuclear reactor technology for the navy, which carried over to navies for France and the UK as well.  This, plus the preeminence of General Electric during the period of the early nuclear age, is why we are in this shitstorm, why TMI, why Chernobyl.

    PBMRs cannot melt down, they cannot have criticality accidents...there are real physics reasons why but I will not go into the pithy details of doppler broadening and the other technical specifics.

    I have ALSO, on the PO threads, LAUGHED at the cornucopians who claimed we could nuclear our way out of an energy crunch.  If you think that makes me a "shill" for the nuclear industry simply because I tell people to stop the hysteria over the end of Japan or the end of the world, the notion of heavy radionuclides raining down on the USA from this reactor, etc., then you are quite clearly a fool.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 18:55 | 1057675 trav7777
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    huh?  WTF is wrong with a meltdown?

    I know it "SOUNDS" horrific, but it has already occurred inside reactor vessels.

    The only negative side effect would be gaseous radionuclides assuming there were no steam explosion or fire.

    If you have to choose between meltdown and fire (which ends with another meltdown) you take the former

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 15:17 | 1056795 suteibu
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    Looks good for Tokyo through tomorrow.

    To see a closer look at the Tokyo-Fukushima area, click the selector at the top and select the 4th area.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 15:21 | 1056817 Groty
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    Nuclear meltdowns, revolutions and tsunamis in the second largest economy in the universe are bullish.

    The tape is gonna be green by the close.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 15:23 | 1056829 Gert_B_Frobe
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    Considering the upcoming food shortages over there, it's not looking too good for the "Save the Dolphin" movement portrayed in "The Cove".

    If you've got fins, a blowhole and are related to Flipper avoid Southeast Asia for a bit.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:16 | 1058624 saulysw
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    Except ... most of the fallout seems to be passing over the sea. Seafood might be off the menu for a while. Minamata redux, anyone?

    Thu, 03/17/2011 - 04:29 | 1065669 geekgrrl
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    Exactly my thought.

    And can I just say you have the greatest avatar ever. (I like Sudden Debt's too!)

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 15:26 | 1056837 bob_dabolina
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    Talk about a rigged market, boy oh boy.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 15:28 | 1056846 Infinite QE
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    Time for CME to launch Wind Futures!

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 15:28 | 1056847 dark pools of soros
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    so what are the derivative plays on this??

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 15:28 | 1056849 Franken_Stein
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    This air mass flow animation is from 2011/03/14 from German TV station RTL.

     

    http://www.wetter.de/videos/160928-17/stroemungsfilm-japan-so-zieht-die-...

     

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 15:28 | 1056852 divide_by_zero
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    Have a book called Secret Fallout - Low-Level Radiation From Hiroshima to Three Mile Island, Ernest Sternglass. IIRC most of the Pacific bomb test fallout (which was basically delivered directly to the jet stream) actually ended up getting deposited in upstate New York and New England. Interesting read, he used AEC and other monitoring programs to reverse engineer what was happening. Makes you feel like a test subject if you were alive then, I was.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 15:29 | 1056855 Incubus
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    if only we could put California in Japan's place.  I'd rather have Japan as a state than California.

     

     

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 15:30 | 1056869 bob_dabolina
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    Couldn't agree more.

     

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 15:31 | 1056872 Infinite QE
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    +10.

    I was just thinking that the Japanese will have to emigrate somewhere. We could send all the homies and other assorted scumbags there with a million in cash each and let them run amuck. The Japs would come here and help reestablish a civil society here. And bring a ton of great restaurants!

    Just a thought!

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 15:36 | 1056909 velobabe
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    bring some meaningful culture to these white necks†

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 15:41 | 1056925 Infinite QE
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    Lets try and get ahold of Jesse Jackson. Hopey can throw $10m into the pot for him and he can lead the rats to paradise!

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 17:27 | 1057309 IQ 145
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     It's a lovely idea; but I think it's probably not "politically correct."

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 16:32 | 1057118 Deathtöngue
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    They'd never come. You stupid Americans don't allow depictions of tentacle-raped cyborg schoolchildren in your mass media.

    Your loss.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 15:39 | 1056919 dark pools of soros
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    as long as the deal also trades texas away for....  goat shit..  who cares..  

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 15:49 | 1056950 TeamAmerica
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    Awww...shucks!   What'd we ever do to you?   Must be from Colorado...

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 17:39 | 1057355 Stranded Observer
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    Don't mess with Texas -- it's not nice to pick on retards

    (seen on a t-shirt)

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 15:43 | 1056930 prophet
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    I'd vote for Canada and Brazil over Japan.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 15:29 | 1056857 paramitas
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    I think this site has better forcasting of winds aloft. http://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 15:30 | 1056864 SparkyvonBellagio
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    Fear the "SUPERMOON" and it's gravitational influence on the Blue Planet.

     

    Peaks March 19th

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 15:33 | 1056881 metaforge
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    If a butterfly flaps its wings in China and affects weather in the US, then a reactor in Japan....

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 15:40 | 1056924 dark pools of soros
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    that butterfly has been created - HAARP

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 15:37 | 1056915 mrdenis
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    Why is the answer always blown' in the wind ?

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 15:39 | 1056918 Die Weiße Rose
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    better than expected

    plenty of jobs available filling up water-coolers at the Fukushima Dai-ichi plant

    Bernanke QE2 is doing wonders...

     

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 16:16 | 1057073 greenfire
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    That job is currently taken by one of those reviled public sector employees that will be dead in a few weeks from radiation poisioning.  There are some free charged lines with nozzles available for bondholder apologists, like Mish and other free market shills, who want to initiate austerity on the backs of firemen.  We wouldn't want to burden the already wealthy in any way... 

    Don't worry.  There will always be those committed to public service, so those committed to greed and ego can rest easy and continue their plunder of those who actually produce something of value.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 15:47 | 1056949 Lord Koos
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    I'm not normally conspiracy-minded, but this is pretty fucking strange:

    http://www.radiationnetwork.com/

    The site map was working last night, now down.  It is a map of radiation levels around the US.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 15:52 | 1056965 TeamAmerica
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    Think.   It's a little non-government website.  It's getting lots of hits from people doing Google searches and clicking links like the one you just posted.

    The site is NOT down.  It's just overwhelmed.   Nothing strange about it.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 16:31 | 1057115 trav7777
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    dude, around here, when a bird shits on their car, it is part of some gigantic sinister conspiracy.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 16:57 | 1057205 dark pools of soros
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    Operation Fowl Bowels was on HAARPs agenda from DAY ONE

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 17:07 | 1057231 Mark McGoldrick
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    Operation Fowl Bowels?

    lol.  

    That is black belt level wit, mate. 

     

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 17:47 | 1057390 Stranded Observer
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    The bird shitting mind control program is a well documented MK-Ultra/Project Monarch sub-program where birds were consistently denied sleep and subjected to various torture and loud noises.  After such prolonged stress they became highly susceptible to subliminal bird shitting implants which could be activated by a certain tweeting bird call sound.  It's all there just wiki it.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 19:32 | 1057818 andybev01
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    So that's where the pigeons in Times Square came from!

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 19:00 | 1057704 long-shorty
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    trav, you are on fire today. bravo!

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 16:00 | 1056974 malikai
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    Reposting..

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 15:54 | 1056979 bob_dabolina
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    Why has our monkey, excuse me, President been so quiet?

    Earthquakes

    Tsunamis

    Nuclear Meltdowns

    Bahrain

    He was very vocal/generous in U.S aid to Haiti...

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 16:09 | 1057038 RichardENixon
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    You need to spend more time on the MSM. If you did, you would know that he's been working on is NCAA bracket.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 16:22 | 1057095 DoChenRollingBearing
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    Owebama has been playing a lot of golf the past few days.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 15:59 | 1057003 Jim in MN
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    I like this one because....it's for windsurfers who are inherently trustworthy.  And the tagline: addicted to the wind!

    http://www.windfinder.com/windreports/windkarte_japan.htm

     

     

     

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 16:04 | 1057026 covert
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    carelessness like this or stupidity of islam will eventually lead to or cause the end of all life in this system.

    http://covert2.wordpress.com

     

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 16:07 | 1057037 greenfire
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    ...stupidity of anyone that would kill or go to war because their spiritual advisors told them to...  Fixed that for ya'

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 16:05 | 1057027 Worker Bee
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    Ive settled with the answer is usually in-between,all is well and the sky is falling. When these types of events happen I go to the most politically dilluted shill shit holes for the "all is well" and here for the "omg its all over". And I arrive at a comfy...who the fuck knows? ahh the wisdom of insecurity.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 16:07 | 1057031 New World Chaos
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    Praying for another Divine Wind...

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 16:14 | 1057057 Jim in MN
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    More VBN from NHK: Unit 4 storage pool getting no remediation/cooling at all

    TEPCO: Spraying water from air "difficult"

    Tokyo Electric Power has found it difficult to spray water from a helicopter to cool down a storage pool for spent nuclear fuel inside the No.4 reactor at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.

    The reactor was undergoing an inspection when the quake occurred. The firm says the temperature of the storage pool for spent nuclear fuel was 84 degrees Celsius on Monday morning, more than double the normal level. More recent temperatures are not available due to a technical failure.

    On Tuesday morning, an explosion was heard and the roof of the building that houses the No.4 reactor was damaged. Tokyo Electric Power, the operator of the plant, says it appears a lack of coolant caused the fuel rods to be exposed, adding that a hydrogen explosion might have occurred.
    If the reactor can't be cooled, the fuel rods may emit hydrogen or melt down. Tokyo Electric Power considering pouring water onto the storage pool in the containment vessel through a hole on the roof created by the blast.

    However, the firm concluded that it would be extremely difficult to spray water from a helicopter as the hole is dozens of meters from the storage pool and a helicopter can only carry a limited amount of water on a single flight.

    Workers are currently unable to approach the storage pool due to the high radiation levels. Tokyo Electric Company is studying the possibility of using fire engines and other options to inject water into the reactor.

    Wednesday, March 16, 2011 03:04 +0900 (JST)

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 16:33 | 1057128 trav7777
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    if they do not get water into this pool or the storage ponds boil off, 2 things will occur:  first is that we will see a huge spike in radiation levels from dosimeters at the plant, but a sharp decline over distance.

    This will prevent humans from being near enough to fix the problem.  Then, these rods may melt down or catch fire.  Zirconium burns at like 2000 degrees or something; this would not be a good situation.

    They need to run a fuckin hose up there with a crane or something

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 16:44 | 1057169 Jim in MN
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    Where have all the robots gone...at least fly one of those little remote control helicopters in there with a camera...as the European Parliament was recently told by the EU energy commissioner, they have just about lost control of events. 

    They don't even know what that floor of the building looks like now.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 17:17 | 1057267 hardcleareye
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    They need to run a fuckin hose up there with a crane or something

    Not going to happen, the die is cast given the radation levels, all four of these reactors are going to melt down before this is over.  Earlier post from the avatar of bill the cat,

    As Robert Alvarez, a former nuclear energy adviser to President Bill Clinton, has written, if these waste containers, euphemistically called "ponds," were to be damaged in an explosion and lose their cooling and radiation-shielding water, they could burst into flame from the resulting burning of the highly flammable zirconium cladding of the fuel rods, blasting perhaps three to nine times as much of these materials into the air as was released by the Chernobyl reactor disaster. (And that's if just one reactor blows!) Each pool, Alvarez says, generally contains five to ten times as much nuclear material as the reactors themselves. Alvarez cites a 1997 Nuclear Regulatory Commission study that predicted that a waste pool fire could render a 188-square-mile area "uninhabitable" and do $59 billion worth of damage (but that was 13 years ago).
     

     

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 16:16 | 1057065 johnQpublic
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    so if the fallout falls into the ocean, what does that do to the fish?

    simpsons three eyed fish?

    final nail in the oceans coffin?

    overfished,warmed,oiled,nuked,polluted,garbage filled,....how much more can it take?

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 16:16 | 1057068 WTFisThat
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    Well, this will sounds very crazy to some but if you follow the work of some Ph.D. like David Jacobs, Dr John E. Mack there is this theme of aliens abducting humans but when you look deeper there is this sense of them doing it now as in the near future our DNS may be not so good anymore, one may just wonder why..

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 18:56 | 1057680 BigJim
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    Our DNS?

    Shit, just when I thought Cisco might be a good buy again.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 19:05 | 1057719 long-shorty
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    + :-)

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 16:35 | 1057130 Lord Welligton
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    Five aftershocks in the last 40 minutes.

    All quite large. Between 4.6 and 5.3.

    Maybe that's normal.

    http://quakes.globalincidentmap.com/

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 16:36 | 1057132 1223pm
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    Since they are cooling down reactor with sea-water, where is the used water going? Back into the sea!! Does this contaminates sea? Is the sea food unfit for consumption? Just wondering.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 16:40 | 1057148 redpill
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    The seawater turns to steam and goes into the atmosphere, which is part of what is causing the rise in radiation in the area.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 17:01 | 1057214 Die Weiße Rose
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    At 1,200 degrees Celsius, the zirconium casings of the fuel rods  react with the cooling water and create hydrogen.(which can explodes as it contacts oxygen) At 2,200 C, the uranium fuel pellets inside the rods start to melt, the beginning of a meltdown.

    usually ,if you pour water on something that hot it just goes off into a plume of toxic smoke

    and contaminates the atmosphere...

    plutonium in storage has a toxic shelf life of 250000 years,

    so we need a lot of water cooling in the near future...


    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 16:45 | 1057165 Bold Eagle
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    The counter referred by Tyler earlier shows that the radiation level is going up during the last 4 hours. And Reuters reports: "The Japan Nuclear Safety Agency is saying the Fukushima No. 4 reactor roof is cracked".

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 17:03 | 1057207 Franken_Stein
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    Animation from

     

    Zentralanstalt für Meteorologie und Geodynamik

    (Central Bureau of Meteorology and Geodynamics)

     

    located in Vienna

    of

    likely future transport path of radioactive particles in the atmosphere around Japanese islands in consideration of current and regularly updated air mass flow conditions.

     

    Please scroll down to the bottom of the page.

     

    http://www.zamg.ac.at/aktuell/index.php?seite=1&artikel=ZAMG_2011-03-15G...

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 17:07 | 1057234 Franken_Stein
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    According to ZAMG's extrapolation, the cloud of nuclear fallout is going to reach the U.S. west coast on 18th of March.

     

     

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 17:08 | 1057238 Franken_Stein
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    According to ZAMG's extrapolation, the cloud of nuclear fallout is going to reach the U.S. west coast on 18th of March.

     

     

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 17:04 | 1057213 carbonmutant
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    ZAMG is Central Institute for Meteorology and Geodynamics , the national meteorological and geophysical service of Austria. ZAMG is the oldest weather service in the world.

    One of the objectives of the institute is in the observation, detection and reporting of the spread of pollutants and contaminants in the atmosphere. Their lead story deals with the possible spread of radioactivity following the recent explosions at the nuclear facility in Fukushima.

    This link shows the Cloud of Radiation heading towards towards the North American Continent.

    http://www.zamg.ac.at/aktuell/index.php?seite=1&artikel=ZAMG_2011-03-15G...

     

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 17:21 | 1057289 Jim in MN
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    This is OUTRAGEOUS!  That institute must immediately change its name to ZOMG!

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 17:24 | 1057270 TruthInSunshine
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    Certainly, this news never would have been reported prior to 4 pm est.

    Problems surface at another nuclear reactor at Fukushima plant

    Los Angeles Times - Thomas H. Maugh II - Ralph Vartabedian - 45 minutes ago

     

    A fire -- now extinguished -- at a spent fuel pool on the roof of reactor No. 4 has authorities concerned. The fuel rods in the pond are not enclosed in a containment vessel.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 17:38 | 1057349 Lord Welligton
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    If a fire in fuel pool on the roof of No.4 is a problem.

    We better hope they weren't storing rods on the roofs of No 3 and No 1.

    Because those roofs aren't there any more.

     

     

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 20:08 | 1057970 slewie the pi-rat
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    jeeez, buddy, if ya want some specific info, why don't you try to focus for a minute and think about exactly what it is you need, ok?  another 2-3 daze of tryin to be cute and being repectful of all the trolls, and you might forget exactly what the important issues are, here, and why they ARE important. 

    now, if you could handle napoleon and score that huge duplicitous win for the rothschild banksters in The City, around the "news" from that event, why doncha think about what "news" you want, here, ok?

    thanks.  peace, too.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 17:19 | 1057273 papaswamp
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    So far all is well in FL with standard 0.0014-0.0020 uSv/hr.

    As long as the jet stream stays relatively consistent majority of Cs-137 should sweep right through the centerline of the US.

    http://squall.sfsu.edu/gif/jetstream_norhem_00.gif

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 20:13 | 1057988 slewie the pi-rat
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    do you know what is at this horror site. papaswamp?  would you like more information about what, exactly might be arriving here in 49-72 hours, or are you having too much fun doing this?

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 17:18 | 1057276 Everybodys All ...
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    Unreal mayhem ... but hey Obama just birdied. So everything's cool.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 17:21 | 1057282 ShankyS
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    Radiation levels way up again – this morning when this came back on line ALL measurements were double digits. Now most over 1,000. You can click on the city name and see graph of the measurements. Could be wind driven results (I have no idea of where these places are and have not looked) . If they are then the plant is leaking some serious shit.

     


    http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.houshasen-pref-ibaraki.jp%2Fpresent%2Fresult01.html

     

    NPR and others going offon the issues of where the spent fuel rods were stored in relation to the explosions. See the AJE vid ZH posted and the last thing they show. Stored spent fuel rods on top of reactor (like the place that was blown off).

     

     

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 17:25 | 1057299 Franken_Stein
    Franken_Stein's picture

    Page not found.

    Have they taken it offline ?

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 17:25 | 1057301 TruthInSunshine
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    The radiation levels spike when U.S. markets are closed, then they subside to normal levels when the U.S. markets are open.

    There's strong, some would claim perfect, correlation.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 17:34 | 1057311 Comrade de Chaos
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    a) It is not the Tyler who spreads the fear. It is the lack of information that could be trusted. 

    b) When it came to Chernobil, staying at home vs parading outside (USSR gov only came clean a week after the event) made the huge difference. 

    c) Myself living in CA, I am staying indoors for the next few weeks. It does not cost much to be a little bit paranoid, however it is much better than being sorry. 

    d) I don't just blindly fear "radiation". However the assumption that in case of the meltdown some radioactive dust will be blown high into the athomsphere and carried out far away is rather reasonable.  

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 17:46 | 1057388 geekgrrl
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    This seems like a sensible. reasonable plan.

    But didn't you get the memo that disasters are the time when we're supposed to go shopping?

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 17:32 | 1057336 GOSPLAN HERO
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    Buy silver!

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 17:37 | 1057344 Franken_Stein
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    Roof of Fukushima 1, Reactor 4 said to have collapsed.

    Whereabouts of workers in the building unknown.

     

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 17:36 | 1057346 geekgrrl
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    A few days back, I had found an online radiation monitoring site with real-time data on radiation levels at maybe a dozen sites in the lower 48 at: http://www.radiationnetwork.com/RadiationNetwork.htm. The site is now down.

    EPA claims they have real-time monitoring systems, but if anyone can find a single piece of data more recent than 2009, I would like to know about it. The EPA website has clearly been designed by professional obfuscators, whose aim is to make access to hard data virtually impossible.

    In any event, if anyone has a link to real-time radiation monitoring sites in the US, could you please pass along a link?

    I am working under the assumption that the government plan at this point is to keep the people in the dark while they lie through their teeth about the actual risk.

     

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 17:41 | 1057364 geekgrrl
    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 18:22 | 1057553 Jim in MN
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    I queried it too.  They are behind.  Budget cuts. 

    Another question the media will not know to ask.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 18:58 | 1057692 TeamAmerica
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    Ah...so you were mistaken.   Bless you for admitting it...that's rare on ZH.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 20:19 | 1058015 slewie the pi-rat
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    get lost you douchbag troll!  you don't belong here.  you don't get to keep score, here.  we certainly don't care for your blessing, or your authoritative knowledge of what is normative, here.  you are just another asswipe.  get lost.  you're d-o-n-e, shithead.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 20:20 | 1058017 slewie the pi-rat
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    get lost you douchbag troll!  you don't belong here.  you don't get to keep score, here.  we certainly don't care for your blessing, or your authoritative knowledge of what is normative, here.  you are just another asswipe.  get lost.  you're d-o-n-e, shithead.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 17:41 | 1057362 TruthInSunshine
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    The IAEA just reported that "his name was Robert Paulson."

    Oh, and emergency nuclear plant workers just disappeared, too.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 17:46 | 1057386 janchup
    janchup's picture

    Jet Stream... this is all happening 35,000 feet below the jet stream

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 18:15 | 1057522 walküre
    walküre's picture

    So, the German secretary of State speaks of "Apocalypse" and he gets censored over that.

    The man is a homosexual character and may tend to be overly dramatic in the first place, but in the second place he's probably got 1st degree intel which he can't share but his sentiment for drama shines through in times like these.

    Maybe the other Krauts here have any insight on why this dramatic slip of the tongue?

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 18:25 | 1057558 Franken_Stein
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    I don't know where you are from, but it was a Kraut who founded NASA and designed the Saturn 5 rocket that put 3 Americans on the moon after he had given that promise to JFK.

     

     

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 18:29 | 1057576 walküre
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    I'm a Kraut, you're a Kraut. That makes 2 Krauts. Do we have Knoedels and Bratwurst with that?

    Just kidding. No seriously, I'm a Kraut. Won't ever have it any other way!

    So, what about Westerwelle's statement? He's in the "know" right? The homosexual men I've met in my years of business and politics typically wear their emotions (and thoughts) on their sleeves. They usually don't cope well with stress. My opinion anyway.

    Thoughts?

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 18:43 | 1057631 Franken_Stein
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    I don't believe that you are German.

    Otherwise you would have written Knödel instead of Knoedel.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 18:48 | 1057648 walküre
    walküre's picture

    Right! There's my Knödel und Schnitzel mit Jägersauße!

    Now I'm hungry!

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 19:00 | 1057703 walküre
    walküre's picture

    Where is TradingJoe?

    He was long oil and is now probably drowning his misery in Weissbier.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:14 | 1058608 Ahmeexnal
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    If you are under 66 you are most probably not pure german either.

    You are most likely a russian-german mutt.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 18:39 | 1057613 Franken_Stein
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    You know who else is a "Kraut":

     

    1. Albert Einstein (physics genius, discoverer of the photo effect)

    2. Bruce Willis (actor)

    3. Henry Kissinger (ex. U.S. FM)

    4. Marcus Goldmann (founder of Goldman Sachs)

    5. Hayum,Mendel and Maier Lehman (founders of Lehman Bros.)

    6. Max Planck (discoverer of the quantization of energy)

    7. Wilhelm Conrad Röntgen (discoverer of the X-Rays)

    8. Robert Koch (discoverer of the bacterium)

    9. Gottlieb Daimler (inventor of the car)

     

    and many more, too many to name them all.

     

    All those Krauts. A lot tof them jews.

     

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 18:46 | 1057645 walküre
    walküre's picture

    I love Sauerkraut und Rotkraut. Please don't be so sensitive. That's nonsene.

    In regards to your line-up there, one could jokingly presume that Germany's most effective weapon of greater mass destruction was the import of Jewish finance to Wall Street... LOL.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 19:02 | 1057707 PY-129-20
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    Indeed. LOL

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 19:09 | 1057729 long-shorty
    long-shorty's picture

    It was the Christians that borrowed!

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 19:05 | 1057720 mick
    mick's picture

    Radiation, as opposed Inverse square rule, paranoid bitchez

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 20:55 | 1058183 flrzero
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    FYI, KI is prescription only in Japan. I stepped into the pharmacy on the way to shopping yesterday afternoon to inquire (yes, everything is normal and functioning in central Tokyo). 

     

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 04:46 | 1059739 The Real Fake E...
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    anyone know if there's a difference between potassium iodine and potassium iodine?  as far as I know there is no word/translation for potassium iodine, but there is for potassium iodide in Chinese and I'd like to go pick some up to have around, just in case.  I'm in Shanghai and so about 1900km/1200miles from ground zero and so not too worried, but better to be safe than sorry.  

    have friends in Tokyo who told me they are definitely feeling aftershocks and experiencing rolling blackouts so things are quite scary over there. 

    also as a side story, not should if this was mentioned on ZH or not, but about 2 weeks ago the NYT ran a story about a Boston mafioso who had changed his identity and was living on the run for the last 15 years in Idaho or something.  When FBI searched his house, they found some cash, guns and 100oz of silver which I thought was rather interesting.  anyone else read that story? 

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