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Gov'ts living bond auction to bond auction.
Borrowing money to pay retirees.
"All we need is a little more time. We'll figure something else out. I swear!"
Let's see, you figure 8-9% investment income to support the plan. Now add 5% for the bond cost. Now, you need 13-14% return every year to STAY EVEN! They couldn't stay even before, so how do they stay even now?
If Madoff had this kind of backing, he would have gone on forever.
The pension fund doesn't bear the cost of debt, the state does...your conclusion is still correct though.
Your exactly right, the state does but guess what the state will do. They will cut pension benefits and other things in order to restructure and to be able to go back into the muni market. Yea the state is responsible, but they will pay it on the backsides of the retirees and the people of Illinios.
Who are the yahoos passing out drinks to these lushes??
I wonder if this is part of the explanation for why the 5 yr Treas auction was such a pile of crap today. Maybe the word to the sov. wealth funds and others was . . . save a state from getting really bad in order to support the USA? Or maybe they like the nearly 300bp greater yield. Or maybe they "know" that state bonds will start being accepted for POMO (sarc/ on that last point . . . but then again?)
It's the Lybians buying anything they can outside of their country....most of them stand to loose it all anyway, just a couple years later.
It is the Fed behind a shell game.
Nobody else is as generous as the money printers.
And sooner or later it will be just the govt. will be the only buyer of the bonds.
Israel expects Hyman Roth..errr...Rahm Emanuel to deliver on these bonds
Seriously. What else could it be?
Yep. Rahm's connections in the WH is what bondholders (and illinois voters) are banking on. Borrowing money to pay pensioners. Good grief!
Schuld macht uns frei!
coordinated intervention, btchz!
magic green light ignites rabid synchronistic dip buying! truly impressive.
god bless the bernank! may he QuEase forever!
Here comes the push green. Markets continue along under the assumption that until Ben is deposed from power the corruption and lies will continue.
Rahm is in the house boyz and girlz. Rahm's in the house.
Chicago's (Ill noises) days of begging for fiat are over.
Look west. CA is where it will detonate.
California = Kali Poorne (End of Kali, literal sanskrit)
Can they sell the next 75 years of parking meter funds to cover this?
No, we've already leased it out for like 99 years to Daley's cousin. Seriously. Look it up.
Bazooka'ed pension funds by way o' stock market crash = outsized bond issuance and subsequent unsustainable debt load.
suuuuccckkkkkeeers are reborn every minute in the marxist/union/mafia capitol of the mid west Ponzi America
so state workers can rest assured their pensions are safe... for another 6 months!
Glad I don't live in Illinois any more! Or should I say, the International Republic of Illinois?
Looks like somebody just bought 12,910,409 personal servants. Soros, is that you?
..the pool's warm.. come in for a dip
12,910,458...you forgot to add our new guests from Wisconsin and Indiana.
Union protests planned for all 50 states for saturday.
The commies are coordinating their revolution.
Looks like Glenn Beck was right after all. Crazy.
Looks a little more like the Latin Model to me.
Obama can always fix it right up with martial law.
Hm, nothing like levering up to throw money into this market. Good luck, Illinois!
dont worry Rahm is on the way to save Illnoise
Repeat after me:
I AM WE TODD DID
I AM SOFA KING WE TODD DID
repeat, out loud.
and they borrow money for "retirees" who pack up and take their pension money elsewhere or if connect/corrupt get a 2nd public job
No problem. Any losses they incur will just be passed to the Middle Class taxpayers of Illinois...all profits will be given to bondholders.
More of the same.
Privatize the gains, socialize the losses.....the real cause of the anger
Squid pro squid. Just recycled Bernanke bucks.
what idiot would chase a percentage point for that bottom tranche??????
probably my brother in law.
Great, and with Emanuel, Illinois is in for a real treat...
Dangerous times ahead for the economy...
150$, then 200$+ oil coming...
I have a question: Why would a state sell taxable bonds that are not subsidized? Is it a legal question or are they suibsidized in some other way?
Remember what happened when the sovereign wealth funds were "investing" in the big banks? That one didn't turn out so well...
You know eventually some state's going to get the bright idea of using the pension money to buy the bonds. I mean, it's worked so well at the national level and all.
Social Security has been doing it for years.
International Wealth Funds???
Let's see ... sounds like coming from offshore ... invested by WS "utilities" ... oh now I see - it's FED money again! :-)
"tranches"....I know I've heard that word before somewhere. Something about correlations. Oh well
State govt (and local govt) pensioners are screwed. The Fed is the only real funder of fund shortfalls now, via proxies obviously. Folks may get their checks but the dollars won't buy much.
So the Fed lends imaginary & basically free money to the Big Banks who loan it to Foreign Funds who then buy Illinois Bonds.Win-Win-Win. Lose US
The city and state still own title to the stadiums of some pretty big sports teams...ebay bitchez...
Are you really trying to say that these psychics are saying that AIG will survive and continue to be successful they way they were in 2000? Let me know what you have to say, please. My e-mail address is
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