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Iran Police Disperse Tens Of Thousands Of Tehran Protesters With Teargas As Rioting Spreads: Follow Events In Real Time

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Blink and you will miss the latest revolution. Algeria riots yesterday, Bahrain earlier today, and Iran now. Per AP: "Clashes between Iranian police and tens of thousands of protesters wrecked central Tehran on Monday as security forces beat and fired tear gas at opposition supporters hoping to evoke Egypt's recent popular uprising. The opposition called for a demonstration Monday in solidarity with Egypt's  popular revolt that a few days earlier forced the president there to resign after nearly 30 years in office. The rally is the first major show of strength for Iran's cowed opposition in more than a year. Police used tear gas against the protesters in central Tehran's Enghelab, or Revolution, square and in Imam Hossein square, as well as in other nearby main streets. Demonstrators responded by setting garbage cans on fire to protect themselves from the stinging white clouds." And a quick refresher in Geopolitics 101: Iran has lots of oil...and, supposedly,  nukes (assuming Norton anti-virus has a Stuxnet patch).

A quick clip of the rapidly deteriorating situation in Tehran, where protesters are chanting 'Death to Khamenei.'

More from AP:

Security forces on motorcycles could also be seen chasing protesters through the streets, according to eyewitnesses.

The semiofficial Fars news agency called protesters "hypocrites, monarchists, ruffians and seditionists," and ridiculed them for not chanting any slogans about Egypt has they had originally promised.

Fars, which is linked to the Revolutionary Guard, Iran's most powerful military force, said an unspecified number of protesters were arrested and handed over to police and security officials. It didn't elaborate.

Opposition website kaleme.com reported that similar rallies took place in the central city of Isfahan and Shiraz in the south. Security forces used force to disperse them as well.

And with Al Jazeera not following the Iran events (yet), readers can track developments in Iran at the following blog: Dissected News. Some of the more recent updates:

17:51 GMT – 9:21 PM Tehran Time

Dissected News has just received
an exclusive audio message from a source in Iran that has been reliable
in the past. We have no way of verifying the following eyewitness
account, reportedly recorded today. (English transcript of audio
provided):

While breathless: I was in the
street I went into an alley find an open door and jumped in.They shot a
lot in the air and shot tear gas canisters but they also shot some by
live ammunition I saw that myself.

All of sudden about 40 suppressive forces
beat one person. An old man, 80 years old was badly beaten. I received
about 10 to 12 baton strokes in my leg too so I could not run any more.

Many of our sisters and brothers were arrested. My eyes are still burning.

These next 3 quick updates come from Enduring America:

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1719 GMT: Kurdish, civil rights activist Susan Mohammadkhani Ghiasvand #1a4ea8;">has been arrested.

1715 GMT:
Kalemeh reports that the residences of former President Mohammad
Khatami and former Vice President Abdollah Nouri are “under siege”.

1705 GMT: BBC Persian is reporting clashes in Vanak Square in north Tehran.

16:54 GMT – 8:24 PM Tehran

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this morning. This is highly unusual, as they are professionally hosted.
First of all, we apologize for the inconvenience. Secondly, our hosting
company is launching an investigation – stay tuned.

CNN’s Reza Sayah is reporting that tens
of thousands of peaceful protesters are marching towards Azadi Square.
All reports indicate that these are the biggest protests in over a year,
and the situation is very chaotic and dangerous on the ground in
Tehran.

Tehran Bureau (Josh Shahryar) has this report:

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Imam Hossein Square in Tehran is currently the scene of clashes between
protesters and security forces. And we can confirm that a protest took
place today in the city of Rasht, on the Caspian Sea coast. To this
point, that makes five cities where we can confirm protests have
happened: Tehran, Isfahan, Shiraz, Kermanshah, and Rasht.

IGV is reporting that security forces have attacked crowds near Enghelab Square.

Kaleme is carrying a picture of Mousavi’s house, with a police van blocking off the street.

Enduring America is also reporting confirmation of clashes in Shiraz.

15:28 GMT: 7:32 PM Tehran

Most of the last hour has been spent
pouring through misinformation. A video reportedly showing a massive
protest today was circulated. Protesters could be heard mentioning Ben
Ali. The video, however, was taken on June 15, 2009. It is difficult to
sort through all the noise to get a good read on the size and scope of
the protests. Information is pouring in fast, but we’re doing our best
to filter it for accuracy.

Luckily, we have our first confirmed
video of the day. Mehdi Saharkhiz has uploaded this video showing
protesters march towards Enghelab Square. At the end of the video, they
turn and run as tear gas is fired into the crowd.

HRANA is reporting that 1 person was killed, 2 injured, and at least 250 were detained in today’s protests so far. This has yet to be confirmed.

The BBC, who has a reporter on the ground, is reporting that tear gas has been fired
as protesters attempted to rally. They also stated that Mousavi is
still under house arrest. The situation on the ground was described as
“total chaos.”

1416 GMT:

According to Mardomak (trusted in the past) security forces are using tear gas to disperse crowds in Enghelab Square Enghelab Avenue. Rahana is also reporting that security has blocked Taleqani Ave and other cross sections and people in cars are honking in protest.

Also, reports are coming in from other cities, including a report from Radio Farda that thousands have gathered to protest in Isfahan and Kermanshah.

There are many reports of clashes and
protests. All over Tehran, but we will wait to report them until we have
confirmation of details.

1343 GMT:

According to Reza Sayah,
there have been violent clashes in fron of Tehran University, where
some protesters have been taken away on motorcycle. There are also many
protesters clashing with security forces at Iman Hossein Square, where
people are chanting “Death to the Dictator, Death to Khamenei.”

From all accounts, the protesters have been peacefully marching, but security forces are trying to disperse them.

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Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:18 | Link to Comment Pants McPants
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<Insert obligatory pro-US military retard comment about invasion and WMD here>

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:59 | Link to Comment Batty Koda
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Don't be such a killjoy, this has nothing to do with the US military or CIA. This is genuine, grassroots opposition to brutal dictators! The US isn't even interested in Iran!

Besides, Ahmadinejad is a nut! He's got nukes and must be stopped!!

We can only hope these freedom fighters overthow his tyrannical regime and welcome our own friendly overlords the IMF.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 15:41 | Link to Comment Fish Gone Bad
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I can't believe they called people ruffians.  Those are fighting words.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 16:01 | Link to Comment william the bastard
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Iran Tehran 14 feb 2011 Basijis going towards protestors UNITY4IRAN

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQFETVxNXcQ

Iran - Tehran 14 Feb 2011- A protester lifting picture of Martyrs UNITY4IRAN

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMGyc_L9xrc

Iran tehran 14 Feb 2011 Death to dictator UNITY4IRAN

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwAv6_wRdmA

Iran 14 Feb 2011 Tehran, near Enghelab Sq Free political prisoner UNITY4IRAN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXFRddBfx-o
Mon, 02/14/2011 - 16:31 | Link to Comment ZerOhead
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Awesome!

Looks like the real deal right now. Expect the CIA to be manouvering for a color coded entry point.

Unlike Egypt this little box of sand sits atop a sea of 10W30.

And I have yet to see a battery operated Chinese jet fighter!

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 16:52 | Link to Comment cougar_w
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Pluto

Ah, what might have been!

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 21:03 | Link to Comment ZerOhead
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There is precious little that has escaped my eye when it comes to the matter of avionic propulsion systems.

But that would be one. Yeeeouch!

Thanks.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 16:35 | Link to Comment born2bmild
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No nukes and they haven't invaded another country in 250 years, I wish the US could say both.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/iran/2006/iran-060406-irn...

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 17:20 | Link to Comment RichardP
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Why?

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 17:52 | Link to Comment tmosley
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No nukes leaves you vulnerable to invasion.  The second part I agree with, however.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:21 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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Whoops. Looks like commodities AND Middle East rioting are going parabolic.

To the moon Alice.

Police used tear gas against the protesters in central Tehran's Enghelab, or Revolution, square and in Imam Hossein square, as well as in other nearby main streets.

Thank God America doesn't have a "Revolution" square, just Sheep Highway and Passive Four Corners.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:38 | Link to Comment jus_lite_reading
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Doesn't matter. So long as "the markets" close green today, everything is dandy.

Must. Close. Green. <splat> "Damnit Timmy! You got that in my eye!"

 

As I said a few weeks ago, not even a major cataclysm could shake these "markets" down more than 150 points...

The French named Marie Antoninette "Madam Deficit" shortly before the revolution. We should give Ben the name, "Dr. Deficit" and let history come full circle.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:54 | Link to Comment akak
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Thank God America doesn't have a "Revolution" square, just Sheep Highway and Passive Four Corners.

I am often struck by the fact that the recent, popular, massive public protests in various "authoritarian" Middle Eastern nations would be impossible in the United States today, as any such "unapproved" protests would immediately be broken up, and the participants arrested en masse.  "Land of the Free" my ass!  Yet another arena in which Americans are much LESS free than others around the world.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 15:02 | Link to Comment williambanzai7
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Unfortunately, you are right

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 15:26 | Link to Comment Bob
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I suspect that the televised Egyptian revolt has strongly modified many cops' attitudes about beating down protests.  It's been made very clear that security forces were heroic only for their forebearance. 

What a great time this would be for a march to the NYSE, ten thousand people taking over The Street.  If they were arrested, viewers would definintely get the point: Wall Street is a dictator.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 17:08 | Link to Comment cougar_w
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That's an interesting cut. I've not been comfortable with how our own "internal security" shock troops would respond to domestic unrest. Could be you are right and they are watching this and thinking about things.

I read a story recently that pointed out the difference between today's military and that of yesteryear, being that modern professional soldiers get a lot more training on actual killing, and as such can be relied upon to do exactly that. If any amount of that has made its way into public safety (via all the ways that military culture does, including media and entertainment) then I have some concerns going up against the cops around here.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 18:46 | Link to Comment Bob
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It needs, in bobworld of course, to be tested asap.  How about a demo on Wall Street?

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 21:53 | Link to Comment creviceCaress
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good stuff cougar, think of the % of the reg. military who've developed the taste, let alone "contractors" and on up.....i bet they'll be corralled and kept in with the gimp until its time to wake 'em up....most standard troops and rural police wont be too blood thirsty....maybe?....all depends on how much more ground sensible people can make before the party starts.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 15:28 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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"protesters?"  you mean terrorists

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 16:59 | Link to Comment D-Falt
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Dude!  That's why you do meet-ups to arrange your flash mob.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 15:36 | Link to Comment williambanzai7
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Mon, 02/14/2011 - 15:38 | Link to Comment Orly
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/:

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 15:46 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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Mom? Is that you? I told you to stay inside while Banzai7 was roaming the streets with camera in hand. Now you've gone and got yourself posted on ZH.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 16:37 | Link to Comment Miss Expectations
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How about Boston Common...The Liberty Tree

The Liberty Tree (1646–1775) was a famous elm tree that stood in Boston, near Boston Common, in the days before the American Revolution. The tree was a rallying point for the growing resistance to the rule of Britain over the American colonies. In the years that followed, almost every American town had its own Liberty Tree—a living symbol of popular support for individual liberty and resistance to tyranny. In some locales, a Liberty Pole rather than a tree served the same political purpose.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Tree

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 17:30 | Link to Comment dark pools of soros
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don't worry, a Riot Reality show is in the works with full sponsorships and a related theme park ride..

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 19:11 | Link to Comment Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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Why would they when they have Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert to keep the sheeple laughing. Too bad they can't figure out who is really the joke.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:20 | Link to Comment vote_libertaria...
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'total chaos' in a large oil exporting country.

 

Does not compute for the buy buy buy bots.

 

Oil...unch

Treasury rates...unch

stocks...unch

 

 

Please proceed to the stock walk up into the close.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:40 | Link to Comment jus_lite_reading
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Must. Close. Green.

The "markets" are so easily manipulated; YAHOO has the search words "stock prices" in the 5th place today. The sheeple think higher prices mean recovery.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 15:51 | Link to Comment goldfish1
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Yes, the yahoos at yahoo determining the

search words of the day. Does that come

across via fax?

 

 

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 17:00 | Link to Comment D-Falt
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<i>

Must. Close. Green.</i>

 

Like Solyent Green.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:44 | Link to Comment CrashisOptimistic
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Oil is up sharply.  Stop looking at WTI.  It no longer is the benchmark.  Brent is up almost 3%

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 15:51 | Link to Comment williambanzai7
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Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:21 | Link to Comment williambanzai7
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A news agency called FARCE?

Turn on the popcorn machines!

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:23 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:30 | Link to Comment williambanzai7
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Ok, let's tune into Radio Farter

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:35 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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Weak minds (and stand up comics who suck) always turn to fart jokes as a last resort. :>)

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:39 | Link to Comment williambanzai7
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In Tehran, nothing could be farter from the truth.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:48 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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OK, who let one rip?

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:54 | Link to Comment downrodeo
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whoever denied it suppli... ahh nevermind...

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 15:10 | Link to Comment williambanzai7
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Hip to the revolutionary power of social media, the United States government opened a Farsi-language Twitter account to reach increasingly restless Iranians a/k/a "FART-WIT"

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 15:26 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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FART-WIT, the sixth scent.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 17:00 | Link to Comment D-Falt
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The true purpose of Pre-Crime.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 15:19 | Link to Comment MayIMommaDogFac...
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I'm pretty sure that the protocol calls for the "smelt it/dealt it" form of standard response to Cog's question.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 15:30 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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Like Jeopardy, I prefer the response in the form of a question.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 15:40 | Link to Comment Orly
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Okay, how about, "What makes you think that half a thread of flatulence jokes is even remotely funny, Alex?"

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 15:50 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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It's Banzai7's fault. He started it. I'm the victim here. Just like every other red blooded American.

BTW "half a thread"? Please tell me you don't believe the guy when he tells you six inches is a foot.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 15:55 | Link to Comment williambanzai7
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Blame the people naming the media outlets in Tehran!

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 16:16 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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Thank God that was Nomex covering the chair or he would have been in real trouble.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomex

BTW he looked supremely satisfied with his performance. :>)

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:37 | Link to Comment cougar_w
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Wait. Is that real butter you are using or some kinda yellow hydrogenated plastic paste from China?

Cuz butter makes me fat.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:40 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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Don't worry, it's Fat Free.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:25 | Link to Comment plocequ1
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Sounds good. Popcorn will go well with my NFLX movie tonight. Speaking of NFLX

http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/NFLX

Rally on

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:38 | Link to Comment williambanzai7
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Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:42 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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Mad props on this one WB7. It takes the Matrix to new levels of insanity.

Now take that StuxNut Job and shove it. :>)

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:49 | Link to Comment plocequ1
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I love this Website!!

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 15:01 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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Home of the disaffected and the Banzai-ed.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 15:17 | Link to Comment williambanzai7
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Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:21 | Link to Comment gorillaonyourback
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funny the picure is not verifiable, cia and nsa do their best at propaganda but if its not verifiable they gonna look pretty pathetic.  after all its the rich in iran who will be protesting not the people.  next on the war radar is iran cuz we need r gdp number higher.  need to justify that 550 billion pentagon budget number

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:34 | Link to Comment Orly
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"after all its the rich in iran who will be protesting not the people. "

Okay.  I'll bite.  What makes you say that?  And if they were rich enough, surely they could hire some hooligans to stir up some shit, no?

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:36 | Link to Comment Orly
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Either way, if it is the populace rising up, I hope there is some way this time to get messages and general communications into and out of Iran.  They were able to silence the voices just a few short years ago but now technology has changed a great deal, hasn't it, renegade hackers?

We need some ears on the ground via the sub-net.  Any reports from Iran would be greatly appreciated!

:D

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:41 | Link to Comment AN0NYM0US
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it's the secular urban elite that don't like their style being cramped (Sharia etc .)- you won't see the devout peasant class (majority) protesting

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 15:03 | Link to Comment Batty Koda
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Wow. You're a retard.

Hey there's a CIA trained death squad in Panama that could do with your ideological support, check it out.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 15:41 | Link to Comment i.knoknot
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BK,

you haven't been here long, have you...

called the wrong person a retard.

prolly ought to logout, create a new ID and try again... maybe read the archives for a clue.

or not.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 16:02 | Link to Comment Batty Koda
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I'm dying to know what makes orly so special but I don't feel like trawling through the achives for evidence or his/her magnificence. Could you give me a hint?

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 16:16 | Link to Comment i.knoknot
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maybe its that she thinks before she writes?

   '... but I don't feel like trawling ... for evidence ...'

pretty much covers it

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 16:17 | Link to Comment Orly
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Not special at all.

It's just that I prefer to use civility in argument but I understand that other people don't.  That's what makes all of our opinions valuable if nothing but to gauge how others feel.

Party on, dude!

:D

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 17:31 | Link to Comment gorillaonyourback
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its the 18th largest economy and relatively prosperous INSPITE of sanctions, voter turn out is way high compared to the US.   VERY IMPORTANT they have lotsa oil and dont take petrodollars. so again u have suspect cia and nsa propaganda all the time when assesing the situation, i dont pretend at all to be an expert.  i dont trust our government.  and after 9-11 black flag its all a pretense for war in my opinion.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:34 | Link to Comment cougar_w
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I can't see the Iranian military sitting things out on the sidelines the same way the Egyptian military did.

This action will either be extremely short lived, or extremely short lived and a lot of blood in the streets.

Edit: Ah, and I notice that AlJazeera isn't on the streets of Tehran providing live coverage from Enghelab Square. I wonder why? Oh that's right, in Iran they kill you on the spot for subversive shit like that. So I guess this is one revolution that definitely will not be televised. Good luck, Iranians! I guess when you are able to use those great free-speech rights you are dying in the streets for you'll be catching us all up on what went down. Or maybe not.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:40 | Link to Comment Orly
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There are other ways besides television.  Hackers can find a way to keep the Twitter and Facebook uplinks in place.

Don't give up already!  Damn.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 15:02 | Link to Comment cougar_w
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Wasn't giving up, just framing the challenge. Recall that cell phones and Internet access where the first things the Mubarak bunch cut off, and Verizon helped them do it. When there's money to be made these fuckers will cave like wet paper sacks. No less in Iran, maybe even more so.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 15:17 | Link to Comment Orly
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No.  While all that was going on, there was a poster (CPL...) in Bruce Krasting's space that was giving us live feed into Cairo via some sub-net that they can hack.  It takes thousands of them to do it, like a swarm.  He was explaining everything about how it worked, how they could keep open the internet and what all was going on.

It was really fascinating but I think it also helped to keep their spirits up knowing that someone somewhere in the world heard their voices.

Here is the link to the prior thread:

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/questions-wtibrent-spread

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 19:34 | Link to Comment Dabale arroz a ...
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Would a revolution in Iran be convenient to USA's interests? If it would, then it is for sure protestors are being helped by CIA, NSA, etc, making everything possible to allow them to publish and share the events. But I'm not so sure that Washington is really interested in a revolution in Iran... I mean, it would be OK for them that a western puppet came into power, but maybe it would be better for them that a western puppet was put into power after an invasion... Ahmadinejad causing tensions there is probably very useful for the US military-industrial-etc complex.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:22 | Link to Comment sangell
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This will go nowhere because:

A. the Iranian regime won't just arrest western reporters, they'll execute them so don't expect Anderson Cooper on the streets of Teheran.

B. It doesn't damage US/western interests so the media 'hive' won't be buzzing encouragement to the rioters.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 15:06 | Link to Comment Batty Koda
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Hmmm... coz the MSM just hates the hand that feeds them...

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:22 | Link to Comment Robslob
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They were just angry because McDonalds opened late...nothing to see here...

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:24 | Link to Comment Zero Govt
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Arabia are doing a mighty fine job trying to evict their parasites... wonder if Europeans and Americans will ever get off their sofas and evict there's because ours surely stink just as bad...

Way to go Arabs...

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:43 | Link to Comment Orly
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Last I checked, Iranians were not Arabs.

 

The CIA World Factbook released the estimate: Persians (51%), Azerbaijanis (24%), Gilaki and Mazandarani (8%), Kurds (7%), Arabs (3%), Baluchi (2%), Lurs (2%), Turkmens (2%), Laks, Qashqai, Armenians, Persian Jews, Georgians, Assyrians, Circassians, Tats, Mandaeans, Gypsies, Brahuis, Hazara, Kazakhs and others (1%).[37] However according to them Persian and its dialects are spoken as first language by 58% while Azeri is spoken by 26%, Kurdish by 9%, Luri by 3%, Balochi by 1%, Arabic by 1% and that some 2% have other languages as first language.[37]

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 15:24 | Link to Comment roymunnson
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+1

 

 

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 17:24 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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Just like those sneaky persians to pull the rug out from under our categorization machine.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:47 | Link to Comment pazmaker
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but Iranians aren't Arabs..they are Persian.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 17:37 | Link to Comment dark pools of soros
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what type of liberal voodoo you trying to pull?? Persians are just rugs and cats and stuff

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:51 | Link to Comment downrodeo
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it won't be for awhile. You'd think that folks here in the US of A would be able to take a hint, but I guess such ideas are still beyond our collective comprehension. Many Americans don't even know who to be mad at. However, they do know that they should be mad about something. Hostility compounds and increases in everyday interactions as a result. We will get it eventually though; still, I won't be surprised if it is later rather than sooner.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:24 | Link to Comment bugs_
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Are the Iranians using expired American tear gas cannisters too?

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:25 | Link to Comment skwareman
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I am putting another trading algorithm in my black box... LOL

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:25 | Link to Comment AZSovreign
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I heard that Iran has a virus that if unleashed could wipe out every nuclear plant in the world!!... Oh wait... maybe it's just theirs.. Damn MSM can't believe a word they say...

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:35 | Link to Comment williambanzai7
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Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:45 | Link to Comment cougar_w
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Yeah. The only way to explain this guy's actions is to assume he is massively into shrooms.

I had a college roommate like that. Pot in the morning and shrooms at night. Most days he was so incoherent he couldn't find his dick with both hands. One day he just disappeared from the dorms, we all thought he fell in a pond and the koi ate him. But actually he changed majors. I think he makes like $3T a year in bonuses and hookers working at Goldman/Sachs now.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:45 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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Respect banzai. But you want to know why this fucker is so crazy? Because he's one of the only few non rothchild central banked countries in the world that has something of value.

He better get his ass some nukes and some food stores.

 

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 15:04 | Link to Comment williambanzai7
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He may be an insane fucker, but he is not my insane fucker either. Maybe I'm becoming a visual anarchist....Nah ;-)

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 15:09 | Link to Comment Batty Koda
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You let your guard down and now the shepherds have returned you to the flock, that goes for most of ZeroHedge readers these days.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 15:10 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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Yep. It's crazy. I would just prefer Iran stay a little off the nutball train for at least a couple more months. As pressure mounts most people will go crazier but I think this guy actually is 80 percent inductive crazy. I don't think it's coming from within.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 15:21 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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Ah who cares. The guy's just slid too far down the looney bin. They are just way pissed at the rigged election.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 15:59 | Link to Comment goldfish1
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Funny, I like the fukker, personally.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:29 | Link to Comment More_sellers_th...
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BUT wait....they still have to buy another 10 million shares of QQQQ today...looks like the revolution will have to wait...

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:31 | Link to Comment Joe Davola
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Any pictures of the tear gas canisters, so we can see where they were made.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:33 | Link to Comment ssp2s
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Looks like Obama is 2-for-2 -- whichever side he supports, wins.  Iran? Check.  Egypt? Check.  Iran 2.0?

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 15:25 | Link to Comment Logans_Run
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Obama who?

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:44 | Link to Comment steveo
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Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:46 | Link to Comment Orly
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Could be.

Of course, if Iran blows up, the Euro would tank anyway.

:D

 

Man, ain't this just crazy?

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 15:12 | Link to Comment Batty Koda
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Very sad to see ZH promoting the Neocon's "Iran has nukes" line.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 15:40 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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Iran doesnt have nukes... the leadership would like to have nukes or maybe has a couple already.. who knows... the Jews have over 300, its more for a punch line than anything else... put your panties back on.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 16:09 | Link to Comment Batty Koda
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"Iran doesnt have nukes"

Yes I know, what bothered me is that the ZH writers mentioned Iran's ("supposed") nukes, giving credence to the people who want to start WW3 over Iran's nuclear program. Even though we all know they don't have any.

It seems to me that people are getting so carried away in this "people power" business that they've stopped using their brains, this whole thread has been dedicated to vilifying Iran.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 16:22 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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It seems to me... WW3 has already started...

 

and its not about Iran or nukes...

 

it is about people being fucking hungry...

 

so, yes! burn that shit down and create your own Governments! feed yourselves if they Government wont feed you!

 

What does? what you are watching? in 4 - 5 countries have to do with Iran or Nukes? NOTHING!!!

 

Now go sit in the corner and read a few books.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 16:23 | Link to Comment i.knoknot
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tnx, JW

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 16:29 | Link to Comment Orly
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No one is vilifying Iran or the Iranian people.  The easy joke is to make fun of Ahmedinejad because he seems the little pip-squeak that bigger boys used to push around on the playground, only now he has the full backing of the ayatullahs.

As true westerners, we know in our hearts that inside every Iranian, there is an American dying to get out.  We would like nothing more than to see (our brand of...) freedom for all those young people, should they actually desire it.

It is why we root for the underdog.

So, it is not vilification that we are doing but projecting an American sense of the world onto the Iranian people and hoping that they can rid themselves of the weak monkey and the nest of vipers for real this time.  It is more like an exciting game than it is about revulsion or hatred.

What remains to be seen is if that is what they want.  We haven't really heard from the ground what it is the people are protesting about.  Food prices?  Gasoline prices?  Internet censorship?

We don't even know if it is real yet.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 16:54 | Link to Comment Batty Koda
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I really don't mean to be rude but you've just vidicated what I said further up the thread.

"As true westerners, we know in our hearts that inside every Iranian, there is an American dying to get out.  We would like nothing more than to see (our brand of...) freedom for all those young people, should they actually desire it."

I appreciate that you wormed around saying the west has the right to force it's will on Iran, but reading between the lines that appears to be your position.

"It is why we root for the underdog."

Surely Iran is the underdog? The Anglo-American empire has been trying to destroy Iran's govenment and take away their sovereignty for a long time, this synthetic uprising is just another crack at it. Or do you think the Anglo-American empire is a benevolent force attempting to free the world from what they dub dictatorships?

"We haven't really heard from the ground what it is the people are protesting about.  Food prices?  Gasoline prices?  Internet censorship?"

Food and gasoline prices aren't going to go down if the revolution succeeds and the IMF "frees" Iran's economy by removing government subsidies as is their Modus Operandi.

"It is more like an exciting game than it is about revulsion or hatred."

This is what really drives me towards insults, you people think this is some kind of reality TV show. It aint.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 17:19 | Link to Comment Orly
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No, that's not exactly what I said.

I didn't say it was okay or that would be my desired outcome.  In fact, I believe I said if that's what they want several times.  All I was doing was painting a picture of what could be in most people's heads when they think about this.

It's all rah-rah-rah, siss-boom-bah when it comes to revolution in America.  We're so advanced, we can win a war with air power alone and topple entire nations with a Facebook account.  All done in thirty minutes, with commercials, after the gym and before dinner.

I am sure I don't have to tell you that that is not the way the real world works.

So with that having been said, do you still believe I am an Anglo-American shill bent on converting the world to iPads and perpetual debt?  Maybe not.  But I know many Iranians and they are very good people.  They deserve what it is they desire as a country.

________

We still need to know what is going on on the ground, for real.  If the people want rid of their government, there is no reason we shouldn't try to help them.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 20:56 | Link to Comment Batty Koda
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If a small group of paid off yobs and dupes decide to rebel then why should we help them? I'm sure the majority of Iranians don't want to be vassel states of the US.

We can't win wars anymore, but that isn't how the power elite operate, they pefer to use subtifuge. The British empire was famed for it's intelligence apparatus, it's just sad to see people who should know better by now falling into their traps. If only you took half an hour to research these revolutions you'd see they were planned years in advance by the CIA-MI6-Mossad.

I never said you were a shill, I said you were a retard, which probably isn't true but it conveys feelings. This IS the internet.

Tue, 02/15/2011 - 00:07 | Link to Comment Orly
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Yeah, but I have a nine year old son who rides the short school bus, so I would prefer if you would use another term.

__________

The British screwed over the Arabs and everyone else in the region after World War I and Churchill broke every promise he ever made.  After the Second World War, the Brits and Americans divided the land, not along lines that were ethnic or regional but in lines they could control.

Enter Pahlavi in Iran and years of the west getting oil for next to nothing.  He didn't even notice the civil unrest starting to take place in his country.  As far as I know, the Iranian Revolution was legitimate in that the players really believed in the revolution and weren't in it for just a paycheck.

The problem now is that they have blown the peace and have been proven to be poor managers of the people's resources.  Price controls on food and gasoline always prove disastrous so I don't even know what they were thinking.  Either way, it isn't working.

While there is no way I can testify to the quality of life of the average Iranian, I would take a bet to say that they are not living up to their full potential as a people and a culture.

Tue, 02/15/2011 - 11:07 | Link to Comment Batty Koda
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'%C3%A9tat

Is this the revolution you're talking about? The one where Iran's elected government nationalised their oil reserves prompting BP to get the CIA and MI6 to coup that government and replace it with the Shah, a brutal psychopath.

Or the 1979 revolution? http://www.netnative.com/news/06/mar/1090.html

Where is the evidence that price controls don't work? I can't understand what people have against subsidising food so people don't starve to death.

"I would take a bet to say that they are not living up to their full potential as a people and a culture."

They're trying to develop their economy, they realise that if they give in to the IMF/Anglo-American empire they'll be stuck in an economic rut, so what does the west do? Put crippling economic sanctions on them of course.

Tue, 02/15/2011 - 15:33 | Link to Comment i.knoknot
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kudos for turning this back into a conversation.

some may differ from some of your views, but appreciate them as stated.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 16:01 | Link to Comment goldfish1
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There's the few closet neos, granted.

Big differrence in my mind between a US stooge

as dictator and a home grown dictator. Looks

to me like the CIA's jumping on the "overthrow the

dictator" bandwagon.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 16:16 | Link to Comment Bob
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CIA announced they have set up an Iran twitter feed for Iranians.  Yeah.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 15:40 | Link to Comment cyberseer
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tyler, do you seriously believe this?

don't you of all people, being a new media guy understand how new media is being manipulated, or is it that you support the overthrow of iran and are jumping on the bandwagon

peep this:

http://www.activistpost.com/2011/02/googles-revolution-factory-alliance-...

these protests are out of touch with reality in iran and will just cause young people to waste their lives. everyone who's instigating it is responsisble.

In egypt's case the time was ripe and it was grassroots. in this case it is a massive western campaign which will fail miserably even more so than in 2009.

and i'm not saying this in support of the regime in Iran, i'm saying it out of sheer desire to point out fraud and the disaster which fraud always brings

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 15:47 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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1st thing wrong with your lil summary (are you fucking 12?) is that the U.S. has nothing to gain from the Mid-East being in turmoil... higher oil prices are bad for us and our nation on any and all levels of the lie that we are all living..

 

So, dumb fuck... who does benefit from the Mid-East being in flames... on all levels verse our (here in the US) NO Levels...

 

The second largest oil producer in the world? so they can be number one? so they can supply the US?

 

But you think our idiots up top are looking to cause drama now? right now? while pumping the markets higher on hopium??

 

Get a fucking grip, see a doctor and / or just read a book.. but stop talking to yourself.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 16:08 | Link to Comment goldfish1
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Hey dumb fukk as you're so fond of the term...

sure it makes the US job easier to give rise to a

reason to war with Iran..."the people want

democracy" or"war on terror" or some such shit.

The puppet masters need a fall back eventually

like "war" to explain away the looting and the

pillaging of this country. May as well keep priming

the sheep for the eventuality of BP owning IRAN.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 16:12 | Link to Comment Batty Koda
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Exactly. One step closer to WW3 and the supposedly intelligent people at ZH are cheering it on.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 16:19 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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and you can see below for my answer to your boyfriend.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 16:30 | Link to Comment Vergeltung
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junk, and junked!

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 16:18 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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a false flag, US planted... so we can adhere to the Eagle and the Bear in the Valley to explain away / distract the sheepeople from all the debt accumulated recently?

 

thats what your saying?

 

you cant be fucking serious? can you? tell me its a joke, please. for your sake, I really do hope so.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 22:37 | Link to Comment goldfish1
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Econ 101. When the money's so worthless

you can't sell your own bonds...war.

Not difficult to comprehend.

 

 

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 17:04 | Link to Comment cyberseer
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Your understanding and manners are so basic that you really don't deserve any further reply from me. Believe what you want sheep.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 17:45 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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so chicken shit.. you have no facutal basis to offer... so you are shutting the fuck up? ignorant pussy, cant have enough of you in my country...

 

should we hold hands and sing kumbya? hug it out?

 

maybe 40 more years of talking and painting make love no war signs?

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 20:56 | Link to Comment Batty Koda
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.........

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 15:42 | Link to Comment walküre
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The increased spread in WTI and Brent makes no sense whatsoever.

US is still largest consumer of oil and oil related products.

The Dollar is weak and Europe is paying higher prices because their market is based on Brent.

Is the US government subsidizing the WTI market, quasi a first step in nationalizing the oil sector?

That would makes sense as the US transitions from a formerly free market economy into a government run centrally planned and protected economy.

If oil exporters can sell at higher prices in Europe than in the US, the US market will eventually feel tightening.

Remember, the former USSR and their satellites could not import enough oil to run their shops and started crumbling to bits because the currency was essentially worthless.

Does it matter that the US still holds a de facto "reserve currency" status when behind the scenes, a premium is paid on the most important product just to get it?

Captcha 3 + (-2) = 1

That's how the cookie crumbles.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 15:56 | Link to Comment gwar5
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Sweet!  I hope for their sakes they can pull it off this time. Go Iran. Go!

This needs to happen for their sakes, this one will change the Middle East for real.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 17:23 | Link to Comment franzpick
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"Old age and cunning will overcome youth and enthusiasm" was repealed last Saturday.  Or was that Egypt-specific ?

Tue, 02/15/2011 - 15:37 | Link to Comment i.knoknot
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careful. the second revolution is the one that really decides things. the first just breaks up the status quo.

the young and enthusiastic have a very short attention-span. not-so the old guard with the resources.

 

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 16:02 | Link to Comment Tinsu
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persiankiwi is tweeting again.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 16:17 | Link to Comment slaughterer
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When does this hit CNBC?  I want to see how the cheerleaders spin it positively...

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 17:16 | Link to Comment Golf Maniac
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Why isn't the same MSM crowd who was actively encouraging the demonstrators in Cairo covering this?  Total hypocrisy.  Me thinks that perhaps there's something more to this than implied.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 17:33 | Link to Comment ciao
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When ZH runs this stuff and the stratfor rubbish they dismantle the franchise.  If you have deep cover why not save it for a day when the narrative is believable and you have pictures that match the 10's of thousands of demonstrators text.  The only person that believes that the Tehran northern suburbs elite is going to take over Iran again is Clinton, Albright and a bunch of shills.  Give it up ....  

In terms of popular support ask yourself why even the NYT reports that the removal of some of the worlds greatest fuel and electricity subsidies in the world was welcomed not by riots but quiet acceptance.  If the state department couldn't catch that train they sure won't make the green movement run by some little shah loyalist girl in a UK flat channeling US college kids supplementary income generating social media like it is some campus comic play.   

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 17:38 | Link to Comment cyberseer
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true words right here. they are just exacerbating the problems with their ignorant and laughable tactics.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 17:43 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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Fuck You Both!!!

 

The Government and Bankers need to go!!!

 

The more they slaughter over there the better prepared we will be here, when people get hungry enough.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 17:40 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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FREE IRAN!!!

 

FREE AMERICA!!!!

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