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Iran Shows Off Mass Graves Prepared For "Aggressors"

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A video being hosted by Iranian FarsNews Agency (google translated here) shows mass graves that have been dug in the province of Khuzestan (located closest to Iraq and Kuwait) that are destined for Iranian "aggressors." It appears Iran is actively preparing, at least in the form of TV propaganda, for what at least from its own perspective, is response to an invasion. If any of our readers have a better proficiency with Farsi, we would be curious to understand what the Imam says in the beginning of the video, although based on the context we have a vague idea.

h/t Sudden Debt

 

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Tue, 08/10/2010 - 18:37 | 513815 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Then I know you're going to love this guy:

Captain of Israeli Airforce says Israel is Commiting War Crimes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNx1xa4lHtU&feature=related

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 18:42 | 513827 Internet Tough Guy
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Posting youtube links doesn't absolve you from the responsibility of forming a coherent argument. Kids these days...

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 19:00 | 513883 CrockettAlmanac.com
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I'm 46.

You?

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 19:52 | 514020 Max Hunter
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No.. the videos serve to add merit to his argument.. Which is a far cry from the standard "you're a Nazi" or "you're an anti-semite" response.

I post them all the time on my Facebook.. They have waken a lot of people up.. You're numbers dwindle while ours grow.. good luck with that.. Traitor..

Wed, 08/11/2010 - 05:34 | 514729 jakoye
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You keep saying that "your numbers are growing". Keep that wet dream alive, Herr Hunter!

Meanwhile, cry into your hankerchief as that US aid, your precious tax dollars, keeps right on going to the state of Israel!

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 19:54 | 514024 israhole
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Got any videos yourself?  Of course not, just a constant whine. :)

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 20:45 | 514147 israhole
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My comment inquiring if they had any content was intended for "Internet Tough Guy", and of course they NEVER do, nothing but insults and attacks.  Strange that almost none of them will fight themselves, but expect the rest of the world to risk their lives. 

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 18:35 | 513808 Internet Tough Guy
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And Salman Rushdie. How could we forget Salman Rushdie?

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 18:39 | 513821 CrockettAlmanac.com
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He changed his name to Salbass. He just traded one fish for another.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 18:53 | 513864 Internet Tough Guy
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Incoherent and off topic as usual. No youtube link? heh.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 19:02 | 513889 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Sorry, no youtube. But the quote is from an episode of Seinfeld.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 20:16 | 514073 Lucky Guesst
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"Also suitable for domestic political dissidents and adulterous women."

 

Don't forget the mullets!!!!

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 20:44 | 514144 knukles
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Yeah, them Mullahs with Bad Hair?  now I get it!

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 16:58 | 513578 Mercury
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Iran Shows Off Mass Graves Prepared For "Aggressors"   Now that's a productive use of capital. What a country! These guys will be refining their own oil next.
Tue, 08/10/2010 - 17:48 | 513715 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Old Man Bush was only capable of "drawing a line in the sand." The Iranians have one-upped us. How can we fill the sand trap gap?

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 18:30 | 513795 perchprism
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How can we fill the sand trap gap?

Ditches, Bitches!!!

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 18:41 | 513828 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Back ho, here comes the backhoe!

Wed, 08/11/2010 - 01:20 | 514606 StychoKiller
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What if you threw a war and no one showed up?

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 17:01 | 513597 Mitchman
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I'll bet Saddam Hussein wishes he'd thought of those!

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 17:56 | 513724 israhole
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Mitchtard,

Don't run off just yet.  Can you tell me one tangible thing the US gets from it's "ally" terrorist Israel, because American traitors keep giving Israel more and more money, like this recent "donation", for example:

http://theforbiddentruth.net/10061-u-s-boosts-israeli-missile-funding.html

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 18:00 | 513732 israhole
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Little Mitch better study that Hasbara manual a little better!

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 18:33 | 513804 Clancy
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The Hasabra manual says he should make opponents like you appear irrational by goading you into a flamewar.

 

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 18:59 | 513877 jakoye
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Oh, no goading required. Y'all are doing a pretty good job of that whole "irrationality" thing all by your basement-dwelling selves.

Come out into the light, Nazis! Say what you believe! Lieben deinen Furher!

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 19:04 | 513894 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Here's a lead for you:

WW2 150,000 Jewish Soldiers Served Hitler and the Nazis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcDpptCdYY0

Wed, 08/11/2010 - 05:39 | 514731 jakoye
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You're repeating yourself, Crock-full-of-it. You've posted this same tripe in other threads (which is really a waste of time, because I would never stoop to read or watch any of your propaganda).

Let's see, why would Jews fight for Germany in WWII? How about: 1) they were German citizens and thought it was their patriotic duty to fight for their country 2) they thought it was the best way to prove to their German co-citizens that they were loyal to Germany and that this would be the best way to defuse the anti-Semitism of the day 3) they were forced to fight by a fascist government. 4) they were not aware of the Nazis plans for a "Final Solution".

So what's your reason as to why Jews would've fought for Nazi Germany, since you brought it up? No doubt, since you're a Nazi, you'll dream up some nefarious reason.

Thu, 08/12/2010 - 01:24 | 517213 thefatasswilly
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You have no idea why Hitler despised Jews. Not only are you pathetic, you are ignorant. Truly sad.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 19:39 | 513991 Ahmeexnal
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OK, we get it. Yo momma wears a burkha.

You are a sad pathetic piece of bacon.

You are nothing more than a Rockefeller shill.

Wed, 08/11/2010 - 05:43 | 514732 jakoye
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What does that mean "Rockefeller shill"? You keep spouting it off.

Forgive my ignorance on the various conspiracy theories of the day. They truly bore the shite out of me.

But please, enlighten me.

Thu, 08/12/2010 - 01:27 | 517215 thefatasswilly
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You've obviously never read "Israel is real," by a certain something something COHEN. Cohen is one of the top Jewish surnames. You really, really need to stop with your ignorance.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 17:02 | 513598 buzzsaw99
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How much does it cost to get buried there? It looks nice.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 18:42 | 513831 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Just a small $3 billion per year payment to Israel and it's all ours, free and clear.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 19:40 | 513995 Citizen of an I...
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No mention in that post of the larger $7.36bn per year to non-Jewish nations in the region.

Hmm.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 19:51 | 514018 CrockettAlmanac.com
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You are well aware that this is the third time I've said in this thread that all foreign aid should be cut. And you still refuse to answer the question which I will now ask for the third time: Do you or do you not believe that the United States government should supply aid to Israel?

Hmmm?

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 19:58 | 514032 Citizen of an I...
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That question has been asked twice in avoidance of my demand that you explain where it is that I stick my hand out to the government.

Again, you answer first.  Be specific.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 21:57 | 514294 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Double post, sorry!

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 21:55 | 514298 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Either you do or you do not want Americans' hard earned money doled out on foreign aid. I am opposed to all foreign aid. You have stated that the United States should make a pre-emptive attack on Iran. Many US politicians agree with you and they cite Israel as the reason we must do so.

War costs money. A war for Israel is a handout of American taxpayer dollars and American servicemen's blood for a foreign nation.

By calling for such action and its attendant costs you have put your hand out.

Wed, 08/11/2010 - 05:01 | 514709 RichardP
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A war for Israel is a handout of American taxpayer dollars and American servicemen's blood for a foreign nation.

A war for any foreign nation is a use of American taxpayer dollars.  True or False?  If denying foreign aid of any sort is your actual desire, what does Israel have to do with it?  World Wars I and II were a use of American taxpayer dollars.  Destroying Iran's ability to make nuclear weapons on behalf of Saudi Arabia is a use of American taxpayer dollars.  Why the sole focus on Israel?

Put another way, please tell us what percent of total U.S. foreign aid our aid to Israel is.  Then tell us why you keep focusing on that tiny amount.

Wed, 08/11/2010 - 09:04 | 514923 Citizen of an I...
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By calling for such action and its attendant costs you have put your hand out.

Weak, even for you.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 20:27 | 514111 Lucky Guesst
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YES. Because truthfully there is enough Muslim land over there that the Islamic Jihadists demand for Israel is just an excuse to follow the Koran and kill the non-Muslims. They don't want equal rights, more apartments or wheelchairs/aid. THEY WANT TO KILL THEM.

 

I will be honored by every single junk I get because I would be ashamed if I had anything in common with the likes of them that will be junking me :-P

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 20:55 | 514152 Max Hunter
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Did it take you the whole time you were doing the dishes to think of that?.. Garbage

Dishes Bitchez!

Wed, 08/11/2010 - 05:45 | 514733 jakoye
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A Nazi AND a misogynist!

Herr Hunter, you continue to impress!

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 21:56 | 514304 CrockettAlmanac.com
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There's enough land for whites in Europe. How long have you lived there?

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 17:03 | 513600 Ethics Gradient
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I think you'll find that they're in exactly the same place as the graves they dug for the Iraqis during the 80s. You've got to keep the proles on both sides interested somehow.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 17:03 | 513602 Sudden Debt
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The text on the video says:

The mass graves have been dug in the southern province of Khuzestan, a rural desert place. In 1980 and 1988 we buried the Irak soldier during the war of the Istalmitisick Republic against the regime of the Irak leader Saddam Hoessein.

The graves who where dig for the soldiers of Sadam, we reopened and prepared them for the American soldiers. This explains the large number of mass graves. When we are atacked by the US, we will retaliate on American army bases in the Gulf.

The man in the video is General Hossein Kan'ani Moghadam, commander of the elite forces of Iran.

It's a rude translation, but that's about it :)

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 17:16 | 513639 ElvisDog
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"Elite forces" as in Republican Guard-type elite forces? Puhlease. Outside of the U.S., the Israelis, and maybe the Russians, does any country really have "elite forces"?

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 17:20 | 513643 Sudden Debt
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England, France and those guys are mean mother fuckers.

 

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 19:42 | 513997 Ahmeexnal
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French special forces and the Maginot Line.

Har Har Har.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 19:56 | 514031 Citizen of an I...
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So how many French Special Forces were deployed on the Maginot Line?

Got a link?

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 20:52 | 514172 israhole
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You sure request  links from others a lot considering you haven't provided a single one.  Here's another link for readers. You can't find these videos many places anymore, as creeps like "citizen of Ikea' get bitch to get them banned, as if they're some kind of victims.

http://theforbiddentruth.net/videos/1658/racial-supremacist-state-israel.html

I'm not fighting for anybody except the US if it finally decides to attack terrorist Israel. I'll join the army the next day, work for free, and supply my own ammo!

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 20:57 | 514183 Max Hunter
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Yep.. I've even got a couple extra AK's for more volunteers..

Wed, 08/11/2010 - 05:46 | 514736 jakoye
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It figures you'd use a commie weapon.

But wouldn't a good, old Luger be more apropos, Herr Hunter?

Wed, 08/11/2010 - 09:18 | 514953 Max Hunter
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Nope.. I have an AR15 for me.. The AK's are extra.. And the springfield 45 on my person to finish the job.. ;)

Hunter is a Scottish name jackass.. Not that I would expect you to have such insight..

Wed, 08/11/2010 - 17:31 | 516596 jakoye
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FYP!

"Hunter is a jackass"

Thu, 08/12/2010 - 02:29 | 517219 thefatasswilly
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Cut your "omg you're a nazi" bullshit, faggot. The slaughter of any race is glorious, and Jews are not fucking special, despite what you believe.

Jesus ass fucking Christ, I despise you Jewish fucks. Did you know that over 16,000,000 Chinese and 20,000,000 Russian CIVILIANS were murdered during WWII? Of course not, you ignorant piece of donkey shit. The "holocaust" (seriously, what an exaggeration), while hilarious, was insignificant, yet you Jews scream "holocaust," "Nazi," "antisemite," etc., as if it means something. Truly pathetic.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 21:25 | 514234 Citizen of an I...
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I'd really had no doubt that you'd sign up to kill Jews, asshole.

I'm surprised you thought I would.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 21:34 | 514256 Frank Owen
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I'm not fighting for anybody except the US if it finally decides to attack terrorist Israel. I'll join the army the next day, work for free, and supply my own ammo!

So... you're not going to be fighting for anybody. There are a lot of jews that disagree with what is going on in Israel. There were a lot of Americans that didn't agree with going to war in Iraq or Afganistan, but almost worldwide it was "those stupid Americans" - they all got thrown in together which i think is wrong. There are lot's of asshole jews just like any other religion/group/country but your Goebbelsesque comment "I hope those holes never get used, but if they must, better to fill them with Israelis than my American countrymen" shot any logical argument you might have had right in the foot.

Another thing - nice avatar and name. You've obviously picked a side and are not going to budge or even listen and learn. You're the Johhny Bravo of Israel threads.

For what it's worth I do not agree with a lot of what Israel is doing - but it's not a simple right or wrong or even who's least wrong. It's not fucked up enough that it is a religious clusterfuck, it's a geopoltical/resource/military industrial complex clusterfuck too.

Wed, 08/11/2010 - 09:22 | 514958 Max Hunter
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The truth and correct path is not as subjective as you would like it to be.  People just need to have the balls to do what's right. What we lack is courage, not understanding.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 21:57 | 514306 knukles
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The best of the Froggies is the Foreign Legion, QED

You mean the Maggotinyou Line as my gran pappy used to say?

Froggies, best for dismissive gestures and arrogant demeanor. 

PS  Try googling "French Military Victories"

Wed, 08/11/2010 - 00:24 | 514534 Ahmeexnal
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Try googling CINCO DE MAYO

Try googling DIEN BIEN PHU

You sad pathetic colonialist.

Wed, 08/11/2010 - 05:49 | 514737 jakoye
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You obviously missed his joke.

You don't laugh much, do you Ahmewhatever?

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 17:22 | 513651 PenGun
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 Dream on. Hezbollah has the best light infantry in the area. They are all special forces.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 17:29 | 513663 Sudden Debt
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Chilli dog.

You eat 3 in a row and the gas comming from your ass will kill them easy.

Gas... makes jews roll over since 1941 ;)

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 18:35 | 513809 Clancy
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Any army that can beat the IDF is a good army.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 19:00 | 513882 jakoye
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And so far, Nazi, that number is exactly zero.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 19:47 | 514006 Ahmeexnal
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Another Rockefeller shill.

You ignorant fool.

You are a lackey to the Church of Rome and you don't even know it!

It was the Church of Rome who invented a new religion in order to destroy the Eastern Roman Empire.

 

Wed, 08/11/2010 - 04:16 | 514692 jakoye
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Tough to be a lackey for any church when one is an atheist, no?

But I wouldn't expect a fruit like yourself to invest in logic.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 17:46 | 513708 Uncle Remus
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ROK Marines. Charlie hated 'em.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 18:02 | 513738 israhole
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Israelis? Please.  They can't whip anybody unless they're unarmed, and under 12.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 18:15 | 513768 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Now let's be fair...

Israeli defends dog attack on 99yr old Palestinian man

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPxx9ZEZ7QA

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 19:31 | 513969 Max Hunter
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Hey now.. those boys had rocks.. and they were throwing them really really fast..

Wed, 08/11/2010 - 05:51 | 514738 jakoye
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Right! Stones can't kill people!

You should tell your Iranian friends that those stonings of their (allegedly) adulterous women WILL NOT WORK!

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 18:51 | 513857 arnoldsimage
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like in Man on Fire... "i'm a professional."

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 17:03 | 513604 sandflea
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When they've milked the propaganda for all it's worth (at least for another 5 minutes or so), they can use the location for an Iraniwood (Farsiwood?) remake of the final showdown in the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. The theme music fits quite well, too.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 22:03 | 514316 Mr Creosote
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This is getting out of hand. How can you junk the man with no name?

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 17:02 | 513605 Anarchist
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There are millions of Iranians living outside Iran who could cause great problems for anyone who attacks their homeland. Over one million Iranians live in Iraq. Hundreds of thousands live in the Gulf states, UAE and Bahrain. Any talk of a revolution in Iran is BS.

The US bases and supply lines in the Middle east are woefully exposed to attack. We will see how many supplies the US will be forced to fly into it's bases when the locals have unlimited supplies of anti armor weapons and shoulder fired anti-air missles.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 17:08 | 513616 Sudden Debt
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Iranians are very good and honorable people. It's the leader that is rotten and acts like he's Hitler. You would be surprised of the support the US will get from the people if they invade. 

The people hate Ahmadinejad. Iran people are very much like us. Quite rich and pretty developped (I talk about the people living in the big cities).

 

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 17:16 | 513637 Guillermo
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He acts like Hitler? You mean all those nations he's invaded?

Surprise at the support? Oh lord. This is the "they'll welcome us with flowers" theme. Rubbish. The Iranian people will rally around their nation just like you will rally around yours. This is how the world works.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 17:22 | 513650 Sudden Debt
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just throw in a few buck and they'll be celebrating the 4th of july next year.

 

Thu, 08/12/2010 - 01:34 | 517222 thefatasswilly
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Cause "a few bucks" are worth so much, right?

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 18:16 | 513725 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Iranians are very good and honorable people. It's the leader that is rotten and acts like he's Hitler.

Sounds just like the US and Israel. With so much in common, can't we all just get along?

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 17:58 | 513726 ZakuKommander
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If you think Ahmadinejad is the leader, you're incorrect.  Theocratic Leader Ali Khamenei is the real center of power. He is commander in chief of the army forces and head of intelligence. He appoints 500 key high officials. Ahmadinejad could not even appoint a minor vice president without Khamenei’s approval.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 18:14 | 513761 Canoe Driver
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Except that we are rapidly becoming quite poor, for the most part, but point well taken.  BTW the best math student I ever new was Iranian.  Iran is not very similar to Iraq. 

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 18:38 | 513820 Clancy
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These are the kinds of leaders you get when your country is constantly under threat from much larger countries. If we want Iran to liberalize it might be wise to make it fear for its safety a little bit less.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 19:53 | 513951 Citizen of an I...
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Do you think the Sudetenland will be enough?

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 22:02 | 514314 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Please cite documentation regarding Iran's desire to occupy the Sudetenland.

Be specific.

Wed, 08/11/2010 - 09:06 | 514928 Citizen of an I...
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Consult your local dictionary for the definition of sarcasm, and while you're there, check out the word satire.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 17:09 | 513618 Internet Tough Guy
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You think the exiles and dissidents want to fight for the regime that oppresses their nation?

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 18:19 | 513772 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Do you think I want to pay Israel's wicked way in this world? Damn commies.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 18:20 | 513776 Citizen of an I...
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Are we supposed to believe you pay any taxes at all?

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 18:30 | 513796 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Is it ever right to force a man who is simply minding his own business to do something against his will?

Of course not. Yet 50% of everything I earn goes to one government agency or another.

And then you stick YOUR hand out.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 18:59 | 513875 Citizen of an I...
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And then you stick YOUR hand out.

I do?  Really?

Details, please.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 19:07 | 513904 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Do you or do you not believe that the United States government should supply aid to Israel?

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 19:16 | 513924 Citizen of an I...
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Why do you complain about $3bn to Israel but not $7.36bn to non-Jewish nations in the region?

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 19:24 | 513952 CrockettAlmanac.com
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As I said below, all foreign aid should be cut immediately, if not sooner.

But you skipped your turn. Far be it from me to monopolize the conversation. So I'll ask you again: Do you or do you not believe that the United States government should supply aid to Israel?

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 19:26 | 513957 Citizen of an I...
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Uh, no, actually.  You skipped your turn.

You claimed I stick my hand out.

Where? How?

Be specific if you dare.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 19:54 | 514029 CrockettAlmanac.com
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I want to learn from you. Please tell me, do you believe that the United States should provide no foreign aid to any country whatsoever, including Israel?

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 20:06 | 514059 Citizen of an I...
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You claimed I stick my hand out.

Where? How?

Be specific if you have any balls.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 21:54 | 514300 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Either you do or you do not want Americans' hard earned money doled out on foreign aid. I am opposed to all foreign aid. You have stated that the United States should make a pre-emptive attack on Iran. Many US politicians agree with you and they cite Israel as the reason we must do so.

War costs money. A war for Israel is a handout of American taxpayer dollars and American servicemen's blood for a foreign nation.

By calling for such action and its attendant costs you have put your hand out.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 19:06 | 513901 jakoye
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Crockett is a nation of one. He doesn't like Israel, he doesn't like the Joooos, he doesn't like me and he doesn't like you.

Leave the rabid animal to his ravings.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 19:12 | 513915 CrockettAlmanac.com
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I love Jews. Here are some of my favorites:

Jews Against Zionism

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/

Neturei Karta

http://www.nkusa.org/

Jews Not Zionists

http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/

Hedy Epstein

http://www.hedyepstein.com/

 

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 20:11 | 514069 Max Hunter
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'Crockett is a nation of one'

Dream on Cowgirl.. Millions and growing..

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 20:24 | 514107 Citizen of an I...
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Millionen und millionen!

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 22:07 | 514323 CrockettAlmanac.com
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'Crockett is a nation of one'

Hi Max,

As an anarcho-capitalist, I kind of appreciated jokey's sentiment on that one. Only the individual is sovereign -- a nation of one -- I like it.

Prosit!

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 22:31 | 514367 Max Hunter
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I'm with you on that..

I just wouldn't want someone to think your views are an isolated case. That is far from reality.

People by the thousands are waking daily to the non-sense of this unconditional support for Israel.

I'm waiting for the hubris of these special Jews to surface and cause their demise as the historical cycle plays out.

Wed, 08/11/2010 - 03:10 | 514674 afekz
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Firstly, I agree that unconditional support for Israel (by the US in this context, I presume) is stupid.

I'd also like to point a few things out, based on my limited knowledge and understanding:

1. Supporting "Israel" unconditionally effectively means supporting whichever government happens to be in charge. Right now, this is a probably one of the more "right wing" governments for a substantial period of time. Regardless of who's been in charge, the settlements seem to have continued, ruining credibility at the negotiating table - stupid stupid stupid.

2. Israel != Jewry, nor necessarily even Israeli's generally. (My idea of how to spend holy days in Israel, not likely to be supported by orthodoxy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2m9Kzce9NlA )

3. It's worthwhile knowing how an organisation defines its purpose & "enemies":

3.1 Fatah's objectives are "complete liberation of Palestine, and eradication of Zionist economic, political, military and cultural existence". Peace is possible if these are your aims.

3.2 Hamas is not a movement against a system or even only Israeli's broadly (complicit?) but non-Muslims and Jews especially. Google for their 1988 charter, from which I quote:

"the Hamas has been looking forward to implement Allah’s promise whatever time it might take. The prophet, prayer and peace be upon him, said: The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews (and kill them); until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: O Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him!"

See also http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article721211.ece

I struggle to see under what circumstances this group would accept peace (not just from this quote - read the majority of their texts). They claim Palestine et al to be "religious battles", and seek to pit Muslims generally against Jews (and others) generally.

Accordingly, there's a vast amount of fear on the Israeli's side (and outside of Israel, Jews generally) because of how Hamas and other Sayyid Qutb-influenced groups (e.g. Al Qaeda and the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood) define the enemy.

4. "Suicide bombers" is a poor translation for how the actors within these groups view their actions. Intentionally killing oneself is haraam, a major sin and strictly forbidden, but these groups have managed to re-contextualise the bombings as "sacrifices" and therefore not suicides subject to religious disapprobation.

5. I strongly believe that the only way to make progress in the region is to try find some kind of alignment between the more moderate Palestinian and Arab world groups and leaders and the Israeli government (even if those involved see it as a necessarily evil) to try deal with the two key issues: Israeli's need for security in the face of the above and the Palestinian's need for a life free of occupation.

(Of course, this presumes that one believes that Israel has a right to continue to exist or even if so, that it *should* continue to exist or whether the world is willing to deal with 4m+ Jewish refugees, again in less than a century.)

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 19:17 | 513929 Citizen of an I...
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And, again, when do I stick my hand out?

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 19:26 | 513955 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Do you or do you not believe that the United States government should supply foreign aid to Israel?

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 19:29 | 513959 Citizen of an I...
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You cannot answer a question with a question.

Answer my question first.

Where do you claim I stick my hand out?

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 20:01 | 514046 CrockettAlmanac.com
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I am asking for your help. I would like to know your opinion on a very serious subject. Important elections are coming up in November and I will have to make a choice about whose policies are best.

Please tell me: Do you believe that the United States should cut all foreign aid including aid to Israel?

Please do not taunt me anymore, as you are the man who doesn't hate anyone. I want to learn from you.

Thank you.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 20:05 | 514054 Citizen of an I...
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Taunt you?

I merely asked you to explain your bullshit charge about how I have my hand out to the government.

Are you going to explain, or are you going to pretend I didn't notice ever more of your bullshit?

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 20:53 | 514174 israhole
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jew-babble.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 20:56 | 514179 Citizen of an I...
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I didn't know you were Jewish, but I sure as hell spotted your babble.

It's smeared like a rash all over this website.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 20:55 | 514181 israhole
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Great question, and still unanswered.  Let's see some content, 'ikea'.  

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 20:56 | 514184 Citizen of an I...
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I see the peanut gallery has checked in.

Ain't discounts grand?

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 18:37 | 513819 Internet Tough Guy
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Heh. Good one.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 18:40 | 513824 Clancy
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As opposed to turn coat and support the people who are attacking their nation?

Are you serious?

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 18:45 | 513839 Internet Tough Guy
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Go ask Salman Rushdie if he will fight for the mullahs. You truly are batty. Heh.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 23:59 | 514498 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Rushdie, a secular Muslim born in India, cautioned that Ahmadinejad by no means has a monopoly on power in Iran. The Revolutionary Guards, he observed, may well be in control of the country.

He warned that an armed attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities would be a mistake, uniting the Iranian population be­hind the current leadership and possibly touching off a world war.

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=19295&It...

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 18:45 | 513833 Anarchist
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The majority of dissents outside the country are Monarchists who want to see the Shah's son put on the Peacock throne. Many have not lived in Iran since the 70's. They would be cut to pieces if they came into the country after any US or Israeli bombing. The dissidents inside the country are too few in number to topple the military. They tend to be the urbane "upper" middle class. The majority of Iranians are poor who are highly dependant on government subsidies. The subsidies use up over 20% of the budget. The poor know the goodies would go away if the Monarchists or upper middle classes retook power. The poor also make up the majority of people in the armed forces. They win do whatever the religious classes dictate. The only real chance for change would be a moderate to take power with the blessing of the religious classes. That will not give the West or Israel control of Iranina oil however. Colonialism is dead. The US and Israel are too stupid to get it yet.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 18:47 | 513844 Internet Tough Guy
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Making shit up is no way to win an argument. Here are some non'monarchits' not from the 70s.

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,5834796,00.html

 

You are a silly ideologue.

 

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 19:00 | 513881 Anarchist
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Add up all the dissidents, Arabs, Kurds, minorities and you would not get 20% of the population. Poor Iranian Shia are the backbone of the military, police and para-militaries. They would destroy any insurrection. They do not want to be slaves of any Zionist controlled Shah.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 19:11 | 513902 Internet Tough Guy
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Still making shit up.

I didn't say there would be an insurrection, I said dissidents wouldn't fight for the regime. No one even remembers the Shah, those people dying in the streets of Tehran want their freedom.

Instead of being a silly idealogue and regurgitating the dogma you heard at a teen anarchist meeting, try thinking. Now that would be a revolutionary act.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 18:52 | 513861 Max Hunter
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'You think the exiles and dissidents want to fight for the regime that oppresses their nation?'

All 16 of them.. Get your head out of your ass. The MSM is claiming there is a revolution brewing over there, just like there we WMD's in Iraq and we'd be greeted as liberators.. Jesus,, isn't there a saying.. Fool me once.. Fool me twice.. ahh what the hell.. I'm a fucking Fool, keep feeding me bullshit because i'm a warmongering, conditioned, fat lazy American that loves to see other people die because I get that deep down clean feeling when millions of brown people die..

I'll be waiting for you post on how you volunteered to joint the U.S. forces to aid in the invasion. Ohh wait... nevermind

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 20:07 | 514062 Kayman
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Most Iranians living outside Iran would help to defeat the Fascist Theocratic State of Iran.

And all of Irans neighbors including Iraq will mouth how bad the U.S. is, in attacking Allmadinajerkoff's nuclear facilities, while encouraging the U.S. to annihilate these Neanderthals.

Oh, sorry Neanderthals- didn't mean to offend....

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 17:04 | 513609 Cow
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He said

"Our farms, as you can see, are not doing well this year and we don't know why.  We keep planting them every year but nothing grows.

We forgot how to create things and our economy sucks.  We haven't invented anything since the fake Persian Carpet Going Out of Business Sale"

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 17:08 | 513614 MarketTruth
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DAMN, he stole the next BHO America Back To Work program. There is no end to the hole digging unemployed Americans can do for government wages. I it gets bad and there are no dead bodies, then BHO can get Americans back to work filling them. Wash, rinse, repeat and VIOLA all Americans are back with a nice government job.

But then will come the vote by the unemployed employed and next thing you know there is a Hold Diggers Union. The new Union will take dues from workers and use lobbyists to force the government into higher wages and moe benefits due to very hazardous job of digging holes in the ground...

 

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 17:12 | 513623 Cow
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Larry Summers and Timmay Geithner have suggested that the holes be dug with spoons instead of shovels this time in order to employ more voters. ...er workers.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 17:10 | 513621 covered
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"If we keep drilling these dry holes, we're gonna get kicked out of OPEC."

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 17:13 | 513627 ShankyS
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Newest version of Baghdad Bob?

http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 17:25 | 513658 SteveNYC
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Ahmenidijad created more jobs for Iranians digging those holes than our entire $800 billion "stimulator" package.......

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 17:39 | 513684 goldfish1
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Ain''t that the sad truth.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 18:03 | 513741 Rotwang
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Hey, fishy! Is that you?

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 17:28 | 513666 Apocalicious
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Terrifying. A demonstrated ability to dig a fair amount of holes in the desert is certainly proof of substantial military might, if ever I've seen it.

 

Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.

 

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 17:59 | 513727 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Ozymandias?

Wed, 08/11/2010 - 05:25 | 514724 RichardP
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OZYMANDIAS

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.[1]

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 17:28 | 513667 jakoye
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There's nothing that screams "insecure" quite like the chihuahua that won't stop barking at the big dogs.

We get it, Iran. You're tough. Real tough.

Now be a good little country and stop brutalizing your own people and exporting terror to others.

Otherwise, we're gonna have to do what we should've done 30 years ago.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 17:37 | 513688 goldfish1
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be a good little country and stop brutalizing your own people and exporting terror to others.

Talk about the shard in your own eye.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 17:47 | 513711 Rotwang
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I owned a dog once.She was a mutt. Cocker mongrel. But she had teeth. The vet even said so. "Where did you get these?" About the size of a German Shepard's normal assortment. She wasn't really friendly.

 

She had a way with the world. I barely hung on. Once when a pup, she spotted two Alsatians about 200m down the trail. She was a bee-line. They observed her coming for about half the distance, then broke for it. A true bitch. Good with the kids. She never gave quarter. Not even to the coons, but she did ask for help. I miss her.

 

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 18:02 | 513736 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Sounds like a good friend.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 18:01 | 513729 CrockettAlmanac.com
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There's nothing that screams "insecure" quite like the chihuahua that won't stop barking at the big dogs.

That's why they keep you in the house, Princess.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 19:16 | 513927 jakoye
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I appreciate your attempt to placate me by declaring me of royal blood, but flattery will get you nowhere, Nazi.

You might as well have a swastika tattooed on your forehead because I'm gonna be the Mark of Cain that follows you around this site to let everyone know that you're a fascist pig.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 19:30 | 513967 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Please feel free. It might be nice to have a sidekick.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 20:31 | 514115 Max Hunter
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ohhh ohhh ohhh.. I want on of those marks...

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 22:14 | 514330 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Well Max, I'd like to help you out and give you the mark of Cain but I'm not Able.

 

Wed, 08/11/2010 - 04:27 | 514694 jakoye
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Done and done! There will be tattoos for all you Nazis!

We'll also make you wear swastika armbands so you can be identified in public, since I know that you racist cowards would never display your hateful views in public. Much easier to hide behind the safety of a computer screen.

"Millions and millions..." haha... you dream Herr Hunter, the same sick dreams that Adolf dreamt. Besides Crockett and about 20 other Nazis on this site, you are ALONE. Your views are repugnant and will never see the light of day (because you're all Internet weenies) and never again grasp the levers of political power.

Have fun building your concentration camp railroad in your basement.

Thu, 08/12/2010 - 01:43 | 517231 thefatasswilly
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God damn you're intellectually handicapped. Not everyone who despises Jews is a Nazi, you fucking halfwitted, semetic, ready to be baked piece of shit.

P.S. America (and China) are both fascist nations. Are you American? Of course you are, especially if you live in Israel and profit from American aid. Fucking. Idiot.

Wed, 08/11/2010 - 08:20 | 514855 Shylockracy
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Zionists will project their crimes, insecurities and perversions on their adversaries, with the notable exception of incest. The French call this preemptive manipulation tactic 'inversion accusatoire'.

Thu, 08/12/2010 - 01:46 | 517232 thefatasswilly
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Crimes? What crimes? Zionists are guilty of stealing land, murder, and racism, "crimes" every other successful race is guilty of. This false sense of "justice" and good" moderners seem to possess is seriously retarded.

Tue, 08/10/2010 - 17:32 | 513672 Segestan
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Globalization has solved Sooooo many world issues.

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