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Iran Shows Off Mass Graves Prepared For "Aggressors"
A video being hosted by Iranian FarsNews Agency (google translated here) shows mass graves that have been dug in the province of Khuzestan (located closest to Iraq and Kuwait) that are destined for Iranian "aggressors." It appears Iran is actively preparing, at least in the form of TV propaganda, for what at least from its own perspective, is response to an invasion. If any of our readers have a better proficiency with Farsi, we would be curious to understand what the Imam says in the beginning of the video, although based on the context we have a vague idea.
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Turn the whole thing into one big glass skating rink. These holes will act as mogels of sorts.
Let's glass up your neighborhood and rid ourselves of the warmongering likes of your kind.
That's right, goldfish1. This a-hole is getting his already, he just hasn't realized it yet.
Nazi.
What? No incinerators or chambers? Lame.
Seriously. Who is he kidding? As if they'd spend the time to dig these holes for an enemy.
It's cool propaganda but not a serious effort of war planning.
When the body count of the enemy goes up, you don't bother putting them in holes. Ditches and trenches maybe. Or you have them dig their own holes.
Stupid shit.
The Iranians seem to be prepared for the october surprise.
http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=40507
TEHRAN — Iran is to stop all trade and oil exports in dollars and euros in retaliation against Western sanctions over its nuclear programme, a top official was quoted as saying Tuesday.
"We are going to remove dollar and euro from our foreign currency basket and replace them with (Iranian) rial and all other currencies of the countries which accept to cooperate with us," leading economic daily Doniye e-Ektesad quoted First Vice President Mohammad Reza Rahimi as saying.
Good luck with that.
Love the sweater vest. Your mom has good taste.
That red vest is nicer than any of the Garanimals worn by the host of your nick's website.
That's me dude. The outfit and the flintlock were borrowed. I belong to a group which maintains a two hundred year old house in our area. On that day we all went out and marched in a parade in costume.
I wouldn't expect an ignoramous such as yourself to recognize the pic as Doc Holliday as played by Val Kilmer in the excellent film, Tombstone.
Still, most certainly, I would *definitely* be your huckleberry, Nazi scum.
Yes, of course, I should work harder to improve my mind. Time to get to it.
Pliny. Check
Shakespeare. Check.
Voltaire. Check
Kilmer. Check.
You forgot: Mein Kampf. Check.
I guess it depends on who needs what more desperately?
Dollars or oil.
And whatever other trade-avenues can be made to function.
With the Baltic Index where it is at ....
china can afford a fleet of their own. They have dollars. Dollars buy tankers. A bright red flag sailing is a different thing to board.
Why wouldn't do that?
So let's see. The US Navy is going to interdict a Chinese merchant vessel carrying oil?
I consider that right decent of them.
In our current discussions concerning Iran, there can no longer be any doubt: We are hearing the drums of war! Statements by Iranian officials and videos such as this, however, are only a response to the drums--to the aggressive nature of Israeli threats, to the encroaching US carrier groups, to the propaganda of the military-industrial complex, and to all the rest. No, the real sounds of war are not coming from Iran. They are from the drumbeat of Bibi Netanyahu…carried on the lips of the Hannitys, the Liebermans, the Kristols…and the AIPAC-purchased Congress of the United States.
Many sources throughout the decade have been proud to discount the following quotation by claiming it is falsely attributed to Julius Caesar. But the truth in its reasoning overshadows any words that Caesar ever spoke:
“Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar.”
Well spoken. War makes me sick. I'd gladly kiss Obama's socialist ass if he'd only get this country out of these damned wars.
Not that that's going to happen...
I think people need to take a chill pill and read this:
http://www.orderofmelchizedek.com/transcendpolarisation.htm
Substitute whatever nameless control freak you want for "illuminati", but the message is the same. By being devisive, by fracturing, by polarizing we are no good to anyone, especially ourselves.
US Media Blackout On War News Like Summer 1914
Not surprisingly, the controlled Wall Street news media in the United States did everything possible to trivialize, denigrate and ridicule this dramatic warning. Frivolity and inanity rule US news coverage this summer. The National Socialists had a word for this – Nachrichtensperre, the embargo of real news. To the extent they noticed Castro at all, the US networks focused on the state of Castro’s health, and on the soap opera rivalry between Fidel and his brother Raul, who had replaced him in the presidency several years ago. The account posted on CNN, in particular, avoided any direct reference to the questionable looming nuclear war until an oblique allusion in the final paragraph. The Time magazine article gave the war issue half a sentence, with no elaboration and no explanation. Many newspapers relied on the Associated Press wire account, which did everything possible to downplay the urgency of Castro’s theme. This policy was typical of the attitude assumed by the US media starting several months earlier, which was to assiduously avoid the troubling hard news being generated in the Middle East in favor of an exclusive focus on domestic social wedge issues, including the New York City mosque, gay marriage, and the Arizona immigration law. The result is that the American people, somewhat like many Europeans of August 1914, are essentially living in a dream world, even as the momentum for global tragedy builds up in many corners of the globe. When the shooting started in August 1914, many in Europe were surprised, having thought that the Sarajevo incident of several weeks earlier was no longer a current concern. For those Europeans, the shock of reality came in the form of declarations of war and mobilization decrees. For today’s world, the shock may be even more abrupt.
A Flurry Of Incidents Along The Main FrontsThe clash which is materializing pits a group of countries including most probably the United States, Israel, the United Kingdom, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, and perhaps some others against a rival coalition including the government of Lebanon, the Hezbollah organization, Iran, and Syria, joined by guerrilla forces in Yemen, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and elsewhere. During the past two to three weeks, unusual military incidents have occurred at the main flash-points where these rival coalitions are likely to collide
Israel-Lebanon Border Shootings: A Warning From Hezbollah?The tense border between Israel and Lebanon is clearly one of these flashpoints. Here the Israeli forces confront a combination of the Lebanese national army along with independent units of heavily armed Hezbollah fighters. On August 3, this border was the scene of the most serious shooting incident since the Israel-Lebanon war of four years ago. A firefight started after the Israeli army began pruning a tree along the border. An Israeli lieutenant colonel was killed, an Israeli major severely wounded, and several Lebanese soldiers and a journalist killed. The casualties among Israeli officers suggest that this incident was a warning delivered by Hezbollah against the Israelis in the general context of rising tension. According to the Chinese news agency, ‘Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak on Wednesday said the “unplanned” border clash on Tuesday between Lebanese Army Forces (LAF) and Israel Defense Forces (IDF) soldiers would not widen into a real crisis. An Israel Defense Forces (IDF) officer and four Lebanese were killed on Tuesday during a border clash, the fiercest one since the fighting between Israel and the Lebanon-based Shiite group Hezbollah four years ago.’
According to press accounts, the United States quickly intervened to prevent the Israelis from making this clash the detonator for military operations against Lebanon and possibly Syria on a larger scale: ‘The United States … voiced “greatest concern” over the deadly military clashes along the Israel-Lebanon border, urging both the Israeli and Lebanese sides to exercise “maximum restraint.” “We deeply regret the loss of life; we urge both sides to exercise maximum restraint to avoid an escalation and maintain the cease-fire that is now in place,” State Department spokesman Philip Crowley told reporters at the daily press briefing.’3 The shooting may have been connected to the imminent delivery of a United Nations report on the assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri, which is expected to accuse Hezbollah. In a sign of continuing tension, Israel on August 8 fired warning shots at a Lebanese fishing boat in the eastern Mediterranean.
Japanese Tanker Attacked In HormuzA second front in the looming war is of course the Persian/Arabian Gulf and especially the critical choke-point of the straits of Hormuz, where Iran, if attacked, can be expected to retaliate against oil tanker traffic. The Straits of Hormuz also lend themselves to the creation of a war provocation by the US-led side, quite possibly in the form of a new Gulf of Tonkin incident. Political observers were therefore alarmed on July 28, when an explosion damaged the hull of a Japanese supertanker transiting Hormuz. According to a wire dispatch, ‘a damaged Japanese oil tanker … headed back to the United Arab Emirates where officials hope to determine what caused an onboard explosion. Japan’s transport ministry said the M. Star was passing through the Strait of Hormuz … with about two million barrels of crude oil when the crew reported a blast. Japan’s Mitsui O.S.K. Lines said that despite the explosion, the ship’s tanks did not rupture and that no oil is leaking.’4
Within a few days, the UAE authorities were claiming that this was indeed a suicide attack by al Qaeda-liked terrorists using a small boat loaded with homemade explosive: ‘The United Arab Emirates said Friday that a Japanese oil tanker was hit by an explosives-laden dinghy in the Persian Gulf in what would be the first attack in the strategic waterway where millions of barrels of oil are transported each day. The report — which came days after an al-Qaida-linked group claimed responsibility for attacking the vessel — raised fears about the vulnerability of the Strait of Hormuz, a vital shipping lane for many petroleum exporting countries. … But if the UAE report is confirmed, the July 28 incident would be the first militant attack in the strait, a narrow chokepoint between Oman and Iran…. A group known as the Abdullah Azzam Brigades said it had carried out a suicide attack against the tanker to avenge the plunder of Muslim wealth and to destabilize international markets. The statement was issued by al-Qaida’s communications wing, the al-Fajr Media Center and posted on militant websites.’5 A collateral effect of the damage to the tanker was to begin pushing the world price of oil up above $80 per barrel, anticipating on a small scale the massive price increase which the Wall Street financial interests would like to occur as part of their desperate strategy to save the US dollar in extremis.
Hamas Rockets Fired From Egyptian SinaiAnother front where Israeli forces are facing a pro-Iranian guerrilla movement is the Gaza Strip, which is under the political control of the Hamas movement. An incident on August 2, the day before the shooting started on the Israel-Lebanon border, suggested that Hamas had acquired the ability to operate not just out of Gaza, but also in other parts of the Egyptian territory of the Sinai Peninsula. It was in August 2 that four or five Grad rockets were apparently fired from Egyptian territory against the Israeli city of Eilat and the Jordanian port of Aqaba. It should be recalled that the scene of the shooting is one of the most sensitive points in the entire Middle East, where Egypt, Israel, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia come together at the Gulf of Aqaba, the northeastern end of the Red Sea. One Jordanian was killed, and damage was otherwise slight, but Israel was alarmed enough to send the head of its Shin Beth intelligence agency to meet with his Egyptian counterpart.
Within a few days, Egypt confirmed that Palestinians from Gaza, quite possibly Hamas, had launched the rockets:‘Egypt, contradicting its initial denials, has acknowledged that Gaza militants operating in the country’s Sinai Peninsula launched the deadly rocket attacks on Israel and Jordan earlier this week. At least five rockets hit the Red Sea border area Monday, killing one Jordanian and wounding at least three others. Egypt’s state news agency … blamed Palestinian factions from the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip, operating in the neighboring Sinai Peninsula, for the rocket volley. This is the second attack believed to originate from the Sinai in four months, highlighting Egypt’s ongoing internal security problems in the largely lawless, desert frontier.’6 Any increase in the military potential of Hamas is a very ominous sign for the Israelis.
Mullen Admits US War Plan Is Ready — Thanks To PetraeusOn Sunday, August 1, US Admiral Mike Mullen, the chairman of the Pentagon’s Joint Chiefs of Staff, shifted decidedly away from his personal brand of conciliatory rhetoric and towards the language of naked threats against Iran. Mullen stressed that the United States does indeed possess a war plan against Iran. According to one summary, ‘Barack Obama’s main military adviser said today the US does have a plan to attack Iran should it become needed as a means of stopping the Tehran regime from acquiring nuclear weapons….Admiral Mike Mullen, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff and the country’s highest ranking officer, was asked by Meet the Press on NBC whether the military had a plan to attack Iran. “We do,” he replied…. He said it was unacceptable for Iran to obtain nuclear weapons, but he said that equally he would be “extremely concerned” about the prospect of a military engagement…. Striking Iran could have “unintended consequences that are difficult to predict in what is an incredibly unstable part of the world”…. As Mullen put it: “I hope we don’t get to that, but it’s an important option and it’s one that’s well understood.”’7
The war plan in question would have been drawn up by the US Central Command, mainly during the time that it was run by General David Petraeus, the neocon leader who has now emerged as the virtual military czar of the hapless Obama regime. If war comes, Petraeus will gain immeasurably in power, with the obvious temptation to decree martial law.
Iranian Defense Minister: Mullen’s Threats ‘Fascistic’Mullen’s threats were quickly answered by a chorus of bellicose replies from the Iranian side. ‘The official Iranian news agency IRNA quoted Revolutionary Guard deputy chief Yadollah Javani as saying …that security in the Persian Gulf would be jeopardized “if Americans commit the slightest mistake.”’8 Speaking from Moscow, Iranian Foreign Minister Mottaki also rejected Mullen’s threats in vehement terms: ‘”In case of an attack against Iran, their destiny will be worse than their pitiable destiny in Iraq and Afghanistan,”…Mottaki hoped that better sense would prevail in Washington, saying “they said they would go to some places and they went.” “But we have seen what happened to them. We think there are still rational people in America… who will not put the American dignity on sale.” … Foreign ministry spokesman Ramin Mehmanparast also dismissed Mullen’s remarks. “We witness such inappropriate remarks by these American military officials,” he told reporters at his weekly news conference in Tehran. “We think the reason behind it stems from the consecutive (US) defeats in the region and its military adventurism which has resulted in deaths of innocent citizens and of their own forces.”’
Iran’s Defence Minister Ahmad Vahidi ‘described Mullen’s comments as “fascistic.” “Such remarks are in contradiction to their claims of change that they are after dialogue and peace,” Vahidi was quoted as saying by state news agency IRNA. “They show that they are unable to stand against the will of Iran. Having plans to attack an independent nation… in the third millennium is a clear violation of the UN charter.”’9 These were eminently newsworthy exchanges, but so far as is known none of the Iranian replies made it onto the Wall Street-controlled US television evening news.
Obama The War Options MonsterIn the meantime, Obama is revealing himself more and more as the most extreme warmonger among major US politicians, a niche which he seized in 2007 during the presidential campaign, although many pathetic left liberals still cannot grasp the aggressive designs of which Obama is the bearer. Back during the regime of Bush the younger, the standard White House jargon for issuing a threat against Iran was the mantra that “all options are on the table.” Over the past two years, Obama has been increasingly speaking this language more and more. Obama told Newsweek on May 17, 2009, in advance of a visit by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: “I’ve been very clear that I don’t take any options off the table with respect to Iran. I don’t take options off the table when it comes to US security, period.”’10
About a year later, on May 4, 2010, in the wake of reports that Iran and Syria were furnishing Hezbollah with new and more effective ballistic missiles, an antiwar blogger noted: ‘“The continued presence of all options on the table” — this is the disappointing message which a Nobel Peace Prize laureate dispatches internationally, in his latest interview with CBS news….’11 Most recently, Obama told Israeli television on July 7: ‘we are going to continue to keep the door open for a diplomatic resolution of this challenge. But I assure you that I have not taken options off the table.”12 In response to this,Netanyahu expressed cautious optimism that he had the current tenant of the White House in his pocket in the same way that he was able to dominate Bush: “But I am saying that the president’s position that all options are on the table might actually have the only real effect on Iran, if they think it’s true,” commented Netanyahu.13
Achmadinejad: US Will Strike Two Countries In The Next Three MonthsEven before the volley of threats from Admiral Mullen, Iranian President Achmadinejad had issued his forecast of a US attack, probably involving his country. Achmadinejad said that the United States and Israel had ‘decided to attack at least two countries in the region in the next three months…” Ahmadinejad said Iran had “very precise information that the Americans have hatched a plot, according to which they are to wage a psychological war against Iran”. He also criticized the US-led drive for global sanctions to pressure Tehran over the nuclear issue. “The logic that they can persuade us to negotiate through sanctions is just a failure,” Ahmadinejad said.’14
Iranian Defense Minister Vahidi Warns IsraelOne day earlier, Iranian Defense Minister Vahidi had issued a separate warning of his own addressed to Israel. Vahidi statedthat ‘”any injudicious action” will lead to the annihilation of the Israeli regime. “Any injudicious action of Israel will trigger the countdown of its destruction….Israel is facing many setbacks in resolving its domestic, regional and international problems. Therefore, it is trying to get rid of this heavy burden through putting the blame on others,” he added. The Iranian defense minister reiterated that public pressure on Israeli officials has prompted them to have some “false illusions” in their minds,’ a Syrian news service reported.15
The Devine PlanAs noted in the essay of July 21, the current deployment of US forces in Afghanistan and Iraq may well represent a grave weakness in the US military position in the region, since these fragmented forces are liable to be cut off and encircled by regular and a regular Iranian and pro-Iranian forces in case of general war. An awareness of this threat in US ruling circles is giving rise to more frequent calls to ratchet the Afghanistan adventure down to a more manageable level, so as not to give the Iranians such an opportunity. One of the clearest calls of this type has come from Jack Devine, the former deputy director of the CIA and head of the clandestine service. In an op-ed, Devine advocated getting US Army and Marine land forces largely out of Afghanistan, while perpetuating chaos there through a policy of predator drones for assassinations combined with special forces in small numbers and especially CIA negotiations with the principal warlords and druglords. This kind of the strategy has worked before, and it would work again, Devine argued: ‘In the ’80s we essentially ended the Cold War with a well-funded and broadly supported covert action program. In 2001, under similar political circumstances, a small band of CIA operators restored old ties to Afghan tribal leaders, teamed up with U.S. Special Forces and, backed with U.S. air power, toppled the Taliban in a matter of weeks.’ … A smart covert action program should rest on worst-case scenarios. Afghanistan will likely enter a period of heightened instability leading up to and following our planned 2012 departure, so we should figure out now which tribal leaders—and, under specially negotiated arrangements, which Taliban factions—we could establish productive relationships with. We must also consider the possibility that our departure could precipitate the eventual collapse of the Karzai government. Thus we should cultivate relationships with leaders inside and outside the current regime who are most likely to fill the power vacuum.’16 Not mentioned was the tremendous advantage that would accrue to the CIA by controlling the totality of the Afghanistan opium, heroin, and morphine production, which would put the agency in a position to vastly increase its influence over American government and society for decades to come.
Wikileaks And Assange: Part Of The War BuildupAgainst the backdrop of these confused alarms of war, a group of intelligence community provocateurs calling themselves Wikileaks saw fit to publish a document dump of more than 90,000 low level specimens of US cable traffic from Afghanistan, primarily of the secret and sub-secret classifications. No scandals against Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Powell, Obama, Biden, Gates, or any other top officials were contained among these dispatches. Instead, the documents tend to support the CIA’s thesis that ‘Osama bin Laden’ is an actual living person and a powerful enemy of the United States– a manifest absurdity. Assange is also on record as saying that he finds challenges to the US official story of September 11, 2001 an annoyance.17 Assange’s actions are evidently inspired by some combination of George Soros, Cass Sunstein, and Samantha Power of the Obama National Security Council. A separate essay on this important theme will be forthcoming shortly.
For the moment it is enough to note that the mental strategic map which emerges from the Wikileaks document dump faithfully mirrors the intentions of some of the most dangerous factions in the US intelligence community. The interpretations of the document dump which were conveniently trumpeted by such ruling class news organs as the New York Times, theLondon Guardian, and Der Spiegel of Germany conveniently stress that the Afghanistan war is futile, while the real enemies of the United States and the Western world in general are the treacherous backstabbers of Pakistan who support the Taliban and kill American soldiers, and of course the Iranians, who do everything possible to defeat the US presence in the areas of western Afghanistan closest to their borders. In short, anyone creating an imperialist policy on the basis of the lessons of the Wikileaks document dump would tend to converge on something like the Devine plan, along with vigorous measures against both Pakistan and Iran. The much-touted document dump, which has been abundantly publicized by the controlled media of the world, is thus revealed as a CIA mind control operation in the tradition of Daniel Ellsberg and the 1971 Pentagon papers, which was a similar limited hang out of self-serving disinformation by the spook community, designed to manipulate public opinion.
British Prime Minister Cameron: Nuclear KlutzBritish Prime Minister David Cameron appears to have a mind like a rag bag: lacking in mental discipline and astuteness, he appears to blurt out either total nonsense or fragments of the secret briefings he has been given. This means that important state secrets can sometimes be gleaned from what otherwise seemed to be his idiotic malapropisms. An example isCameron’s early August charge that Iran already possesses nuclear weapons. Had Cameron’s Downing Street handlers jumped the gun, prepping him in advance for the war speech he might have to give a few weeks down the line? The BBC commented: ‘Labour has accused David Cameron of committing a gaffe by mistakenly claiming Iran has a nuclear weapon. Asked why he was backing Turkey to join the EU, he said it could help solve the world’s problems, “like the Middle East peace process, like the fact that Iran has got a nuclear weapon”. A No 10 source said the PM “misspoke”, later adding he had been talking about Iran’s pursuit of nuclear weapons. But Labour said he was becoming a “foreign policy klutz.”’18 In reality, Cameron had tipped his hand too much.
Hariri Probe Targets HezbollahThere is every indication that the United Nations commission investigating the February 2005 murder of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri will attempt to frame Hezbollah for this crime, while ignoring strong circumstantial evidence implicating the United States, the United Kingdom, and Israel, to name just a few. Hezbollah leaders have gotten out in front of the commission’s findings with a preventive condemnation of the likely fixed verdict. As a new mania news source reports, ‘Lebanon’s Hezbollah Resistance Movement warns against falsely accusing its members of involvement in the assassination of Lebanon’s former premier Rafik Hariri. A top Hezbollah official, Sheikh Nabil Qaouq, … warned about the dire consequences of trying to link the resistance movement to the assassination and called such accusations “dangerous.” Qaouq said the indictment of Hezbollah members was part of a US and Israeli conspiracy and called for the trial of the individuals, who testified in the case of Hariri’s assassination and whom Hezbollah regards as false witnesses, a Press TV correspondent reported…. “We will continue confronting this conspiracy … and we will consider any indictment against the resistance an Israeli-American fabrication executed through local or international means,” he added.’19 Part of the US-led strategy appears to be the attempt to drive a wedge between Syria and Iran over these Lebanese events. Whether this crude stratagem can succeed or not is uncertain.
Shapiro: New 9/11 Or New Oklahoma City Needed To Save ObamaA blunt and cynical appraisal of the crisis of the Obama regime and of Obama’s need for a wag the dog crisis to shore up his cratering poll numbers comes from Rob Shapiro, co-founder of the Progressive Policy Institute, a think tank close to the right wing Democrats of the Democratic Leadership Council. A Bilderberger activist, Shapiro served as a top official during the Clinton administration. An article in the London Financial Times about Obama’s alarming weakness contains this revealing assessment by Shapiro of how Obama might restore his authority: ‘“The bottom line here is that Americans don’t believe in President Obama’s leadership,” says Rob Shapiro, another former Clinton official and a supporter of Mr Obama. “He has to find some way between now and November of demonstrating that he is a leader who can command confidence and, short of a 9/11 event or an Oklahoma City bombing, I can’t think of how he could do that.”’20
Barak And BarackThe last week in July saw the Washington visit of Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak, who came close on the heels of Prime Minister Netanyahu. According to Time magazine, Barak’s party line was that the economic sanctions imposed on Iran by the United Nations Security Council in early June are only a temporary expedient, and must be quickly followed by war. As the magazine reported, ‘Barak arrived in Washington this week with the message that not even the far-reaching sanctions adopted by the U.S. and its allies against Iran are likely to change Iran’s behavior. “It’s still time for sanctions,” he told theWashington Post in an interview. But “probably, at a certain point, we should realize that sanctions cannot work.” In an interview with the Washington Post, Barak stressed joint US-Israeli efforts in the area of anti-ballistic missile defense, noting that Israel is ‘now developing, together with the United States, the Super Arrow, a kind of a space-age kind of interceptor that protects us against incoming missiles from places like deep into Syria or from Iran.”21
Time identified Obama advisor Dennis Ross as a leading member of the US war party, suggesting that Ross is one of the handlers feeding Obama his belligerent “options” rhetoric and keeping the war option on the front burner. The magazine wrote: ‘Obama has … insisted that a military option remains “on the table.” That insistence could be consistent with the perspective of his key adviser on Iran, Dennis Ross, who wrote two years ago, “When we say we are not taking force off the table, that must be more than a slogan. It is essential that the Iranians continue to believe that they may well be playing with fire if they persist in their pursuit of nuclear weapons.” Regardless of whether force is ever used, Ross was arguing, the only way Tehran will back down is if it’s convinced it will face U.S. military action if it doesn’t.’22
H. R. 1355: House Republicans Demand Aggressive WarThe reactionary Republicans of the US House of Representatives claimed their part of the looming tragedy with a jingoistic draft resolution of genocidal intent, directed against Iran. As one commentator noted, ‘Republicans in the House or Representatives have unveiled House Resolution 1553, a resolution providing explicit support for an Israeli bombing campaign against Iran. The measure, introduced by Texas Republican Louie Gohmert and forty-six of his colleagues, endorses Israel’s use of “all means necessary” against Iran “including the use of military force.” “We have got to act,” Gohmert has said in regard to the measure. “We’ve got to get this done. We need to show our support for Israel. We need to quit playing games with this critical ally in such a difficult area.”’
As this commentator pointed out, ‘Gohemert’s resolution may be an unprecedented development — Congress has never endorsed pre-emptive military strikes by a foreign country. In fact, this measure is no small part of a neoconservative agenda to go to war with Iran. The green light resolution is precisely what John Bolton called for two weeks ago in a Wall Street Journal piece that reads as a playbook for dragging the US into military conflict with Iran.’23 Such statements violate the Nonproliferation Treaty, since they represent direct military threats by a nuclear state against Iran, a non-nuclear state under that treaty.
Venezuela Threatened By The US Via ColombiaThe notion that coming hostilities involving Iran could also be extended to the Latin American continent is plausibly argued by Russian analyst Nil Nikandrov of the Moscow Strategic Culture Foundation, the think tank associated with General Leonid Ivashov. Nikandrov points to the increasingly close relations between Iran and Venezuela to suggest that the conflagration may well be extended to this latter country as well. Here a likely scenario involves the US playing off Columbia against Venezuela in a classic exercise of the imperialist buck-passing favored by the Brzezinski faction. As Nikandrov argues, ‘Under B. Obama, the US started to actively reinforce the existing and set up new military bases along the borders of Venezuela. The US maintains 10 military bases in Columbia alone, though on top of that the Pentagon enjoys unrestricted access to the de facto occupied country’s own military infrastructures. US army and navy bases have also been promptly built in Costa Rica and Panama. Experts believe the list of potential targets of the forces deployed at the bases includes both Venezuela and its regional allies – Cuba, Nicaragua, and Ecuador. US military advisers are dispatched in increasing numbers to Guatemala, Honduras, and Salvador. Chavez speaks frequently about the threat posed by the US. This July, he mentioned several times the warnings about the higher than ever threat of the US aggression he received from a well-informed “secret friend” in Washington. Washington is waging a permanent smear campaign against Venezuela. Reports are circulated that Chavez hosts ETA terrorists or guerrillas from Iran, Palestine, and Lebanon and helps them to penetrate the US. The disinformation, easily disproved by Venezuela, will certainly reemerge when the US and Israeli forces hit Iran’s “nuclear infrastructures”, airports, and army bases. Ignoring Washington’s ire, Chavez openly sides with Iran. He visited Tehran on a number of occasions and keeps inviting the Iranian leaders to Caracas. Chavez pledges not to abandon Iran in trouble. The US is keenly aware what the signals sent by Chavez mean: against the backdrop of the war in Afghanistan and the coming war in Iran, Venezuela’s taking its barrels offline would send the oil prices skyrocketing up to $200 per barrel and thus reanimate the global economic crisis.’24 Unfortunately, increasing the price of oil is currently an enticement, rather than a deterrent, to the Anglo-American financiers.
"Yeah, well we have mass graves ready for anyone who wants to mess with us too!" "Pssst, Barry, those are FEMA camps." "Damn it Gibbs, you are ruining my mojo!"
As expected, the State Department and Foreign Operations (foreign aid) appropriations bill for FY ‘10 (which began Oct. 1, 2009) was folded into an “Omnibus” bill, H.R. 3288. The ensuing Conference Report, H.Rept. 111-366, was passed by both Houses of Congress in December and signed by President Barack Obama on Dec. 16 as P.L. 111-117. The separate Defense appropriations bill, H.R. 3326, was passed by both Houses, also in December, and was signed by Obama on Dec. 19 as P.L. 111-118.
2010 Appropriaions Israel:
$2.8 billion, including $25 million for refugee assistance and $2.775 billion in military grants—including the $555 million military aid for FY ‘10 included in the previous supplemental appropriations bill—with $729.825 million (the usual 26.3 percent) of the military aid available for procurement from Israeli rather than U.S. firms.
Afghanistan: $2.457 billion, including $2.037 billion in economic aid and $420 million for International Narcotics Control and Law Enforcement (INCLE).
Egypt: $1.552 billion including the $260 million military aid in the previous supplemental bill, plus not less than $1.295 billion (Sec. 7042), consisting of $250 million in economic aid, up to $50 million of which is for “an endowment to further the shared interests of the U.S. and Egypt”; $1 million for INCLE; $1.9 million for International Military Education and Training (IMET), and $1.04 billion for military grants.
Pakistan: $1.408 billion, including $1.035 billion in economic aid; $130 million for INCLE; $5 million for IMET; and $238 million in military aid, with authority to transfer up to $60 million from the economic aid heading in this and prior acts.
Jordan: $692.95 million, including the $150 million in military aid in the previous supplemental bill, plus not less than $542.95 million (Sec. 7042), consisting of $363 million in economic aid; $1.5 million for INCLE; and $150 million in military aid.
West Bank and Gaza: $502.9 million (Sec. 7042), including $400.4 million in economic aid, of which $150 million may be for direct cash transfer, and $100 million for INCLE.
Iraq: Up to $466.8 million (Sec. 7042), including $382.5 million in economic aid, of which $50 million is for “ministerial capacity development,” and $52 million for INCLE.
Lebanon: Not less than $283.3 million (Sec. 7042), including $109 million in economic aid, of which $12.2 million is for scholarships for students in Lebanon; $20 million for INCLE; and $100 million in military aid.
Yemen: $40 million, including $35 million in development assistance and $5 million in economic aid.
Tunisia: $20 million, including $2 million in economic and $18 million in military aid.
Turkey: $5 million for IMET.
Morocco: $3 million in economic aid.
In so, so many ways things have not changed in Washington. Only the 3-card Monty front man has changed (ya, he a lot coola ha). The utter absurdity of these amounts, GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE ARE FUCKING BANKRUPT, ASSHOLES !!!!!, speaks volumes to the depravity in Washington. I don't know where or how to even begin to list the reasons why this action is criminal are other than to say to all but a very small handful of people there, a simple fuck you....
Amazing the protests about $3bn to Israel but nary a word to the sums (far in excess) to the non-Jewish nations in the region.
U.S. MILITARY AID AND THE ISRAEL/PALESTINE CONFLICT: The U.S. is providing Israel with at least $7.0 million each day in military aid and is giving the Palestinians $0 in military aid during Fiscal Year 2009 | if Americans Knew
“Since the October War in 1973, Washington has provided Israel with a level of support dwarfing the amounts provided to any other state. It has been the largest annual recipient of direct U.S. economic and military assistance since 1976 and the largest total recipient since World War ll. Total direct U.S. aid to Israel amounts to well over $140 billion in 2003 dollars. Israel receives about $3 billion in direct foreign assistance each year, which is roughly one-fifth of America's entire foreign aid budget…
- John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt
"The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy"
* The source for US military aid to Israel during Fiscal Year 2009 is the Congressional Research Service’s “U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel,” written by Jeremy M. Sharp, Specialist in Middle Eastern Affairs, updated February 3, 2009. According to this report, by early February 2009, the US had already given Israel at least $2.55 billion ($2,500,000,000) in military aid for Fiscal Year 2009. …
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/usaid.html
Thanks but no thanks, guy. If I want Jewhating agitprop, I'll turn on NPR.
Well are you a beggar or not? Suit up and get fighting the wars you want so badly.
Who are you talking to, sport?
I can't see for all of your spittle.
Your posts are like a dramatic summer's morning on the craggy coast of Maine...except that isn't exactly seafoam on your face, is it?
You keep avoiding his point.. Why don't you fight for Israel?.. Is it the basic training that scares you or dying in a dessert 5,000 miles from home for no good reason?
His point is addressed to me? Didn't know that.
And what are you, his fucking wetnurse? Let the swine speak for himself about what "his point" might be, and if it is in fact directed to me.
Ever actually serve in the military, Herr Hunter? I seriously doubt it.
Why don't you strap some explosives to yourself, go join Hamas and blow up some of dem damn Joooos?
Or maybe go shoot a security guard at the Holocaust Museum in DC like others of your ilk have done?
C'mon, you know you want to earn your Iron Cross!
All of that aid should be cut immediately, if not sooner.
It would also be nice if the government stopped spending our money in an effort to blow up many of those same people.
A sick leadership in an oppressed state.
Mass graves?
Maybe two hours work with a backhoe.
Buncha rookiez.
Flashback. GulfWarI. Tanks with mine defense plows straddling trenches burying Republican Guard troops. No amateur hour that time.
Flashback: The 1980s, world superpower, the USSR, bleeds blood and treasure for a decade in the mountains of Afghanistan. Their nation dissolved a few short years later.
Simple comparisons for simple minds.
When the bombs and missiles begin falling on the fascist infrastructure in Iran and the dazed and pants-wetting little murderers are running around and shooting at the sky, I hope the Iranian people rise up as one and hang the little Hitler where our satellites can broadcast it to the world.
By then Israel will be about finished cleaning up their front yard.
The we can declare peace.
Whatsoever you do to the least of my brothers you do unto me.
Fascist Iranian clerics and their lackeys are your brothers now?
I think it's pretty clear where you stand, Crockett. Kindly renounce your citizenship now and go join your brothers in their perfect Islamic society.
Read revelation. We have already been told the end story and who wins. It's a geopolitical/geoeconomic play on what is unfolding before our eye's. False God's or the Creator-pick a side but choose wisely. Hurt is coming for the Godless - as has happened throughout history. Don't want to preach, but countries fall when they lose their moral compass. More to follow as we are brought to our knees- another wanna be- like Great britain before us.. God Bless and help us!!
We best be meek peacemakers who are poor in spirit or we are doomed.
Do I get a coffin too? It doesn't have to be fancy, I'd just like a box over my dead body.
The amounts posted are of course are annual - an annual rape of American taxpayers (admittedly, mostly idiots). if you want to give to those countries (fuck em all as far as I am concerned, let em fucking destruct each other - I don't give a shit about ridiculous religious rivalries) then please send a check to their Embassies in Washington. I am sure they will chuckle (just as they do every year they get their wire transfer), and then head over for a nice $200 lunch with a diplomat from one of the other money grubbing countries. Then, with their gold tooth flashes, they smile and laugh and toast with a nice 20 year old Scotch.
What these amounts don't include are the billions in charitable donations that are effectively billions more in taxpayer funded support.
So, this all for oil. I mean if a Spaceship landed and dumped off a new energy machine on the White House lawn (not so subtely) then I'd love to see us fuckin pull completely out of there and let them destruct each other. In the meantime we are slaves of oil which has a real cost in the $200 per barrel area....
"It is so much more complicated than that". Sure.
Israel and false flags you say?
http://incogman.net/08/2010/false-flag-attack-justified-according-to-jews/
You are the loony linkmaster.
Gitmo ‘Child Soldier’ Tribunal Set to Begin: Prosecutors insisted abuse didn’t affect confessions | Antiwar.com | by Jason Ditz
August 9, 2010--The Obama Administration’s military “trial” against Omar Khadr at Guantanamo Bay is expected to begin as soon as Tuesday, following a ruling from a military judge that the confessions made by Khadr are admissible.
Khadr, a Canadian citizen, was 15 years old when he was arrested. Now 23, he is charged with having thrown a grenade at US troops during the Afghan War, and is being labeled an “unprivileged enemy belligerent” to explain the charges, as throwing a hand grenade during a war is not generally considered a war crime.
Defense lawyers had argued that Khadr’s confessions should not be allowed because they came in the wake of threats of gang rape and repeated abuse during past interrogations. Prosecutors argued, and the judge agreed, that the threats were irrelevant to the confessions. …
In fact the military judge’s ruling today was just the last in a long line of attempts to block the trial by the defense, which had petitioned the US Supreme Court to suspend the trial on Constitutional grounds. The court declined to do so.
Even coverage of the preceding at Guantanamo Bay have become something of a controversy, as the Pentagon continues to restrict what journalists allowed to see the trial will be permitted to cover, citing “operational security concerns.”
Having virtually grown up in US custody, Khadr could face life in prison if convicted. The Canadian Supreme Court decided in January that it could not force the current Canadian government to seek his repatriation, but it remains possible that some future Canadian government may decide to seek the return of its citizen.
http://news.antiwar.com/2010/08/09/as-khadr-trial-looms-military-rules-d...
JR
While not trying to prejudge the Omar Khadr case one way or the other, I think you will find Canada was a flag of convenience for Papa Khadr. Momma Khadr is hiding in Canada too.
Papa Khadr used his kids (including Omar) as pawns in his Kill Americans for Allah crusade.
The Big Guy in the Sky trumps nationality.
For those that prefer scripture, As far as it is possible live in peace with your fellow man.
If you believe in scripture, Jerusalem is the apple of God's eye and the Jews are his chosen people.
If the knowledge of history has any relevence I wish some of the Israel-haters would tell me why Israel has no right to exist?
Before the Arabs possessed the land the Turks claimed it. Before them, the Romans. Before that Greeks. Before that Persians. Before them it was someone else then someone else then someone else.
Why does Israel have no right to exist?
[whisper] Because it's full of Joooooos...
Although there are those who refuse to accept the teachings of our Rabbis and will continue to support the Zionist state, there are also many who are totally unaware of the history of Zionism and its contradiction to the beliefs of Torah-True Jews.
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/
Nice propaganda, but what you ought to say is that some traditional Jews are not Zionists.
I mean, if you want to be honest.
I didn't say it. Jews said it.
By posting it here to support your view, you say it too.
So who gets to claim any particular patch of soil ? How far back do you go ?
Who settled the land before the Jewish people laid claim to Jerusalem ??
Just asking.
Isn't legitimacy entirely based on Tribal attachments ??
Right. Everybody should just calm down and make peace with their neighbors. Israel will remain Israel and they will withdraw from the Occupied Territories. Both Fatah and Hamas have agreed to this by confirming that they will abide by the 1967 borders.
Haniyeh: Hamas willing to accept Palestinian state with 1967 bordershttp://www.haaretz.com/news/haniyeh-hamas-willing-to-accept-palestinian-...
Right... because every Israeli withdraw has brought nothing but peace, right? Hmmm... wait... not so much.
The fact that you actually buy these terrorist groups' demands reveals you for the 'tard that you are. If Israel withdrew to the '67 borders, there would be no peace, as the Islamic facists goal, as they have repeatedly stated, is to drive the Jews into the sea and extinguish the state of Israel. An Israel with 1967 borders would be much more vulnerable to attack and infiltration... exactly what the Islamic Nazis want.
Land for peace is a mirage that only fools like yourself (and Neville Chamberlain) believe (though I think that in reality, you don't actually believe in it at all and are just interested in using the concept as a way to weaken Israel).
The nation called Israel that was created by the kangaroo court, the Paris Peace Conference Treaty of Versailles, and recognized quickly by Harry Truman and others for political advantage, is not the Israel identified in scripture. And there’s much more to be said about the “chosen people” as to whether Ben Gurion, Menachem Begin, Golda Meir, Ariel Sharon and Benjamin Netanyahu were “chosen” by the Creator of the Universe to blow others to bits in the name of God.
Wow.
I didn't know so much bullshit could be compressed into so tight a graf.
Congratufuckulations.
Let me get this right. First we had Abraham and Moses and Joshua, right?
And then along came the prophets David Lloyd George…and Woodrow Wilson. And now we’ve got Harry Truman who provided us a place for the Jews. Weren’t they wondering around in the wilderness before Harry came along?
And wasn’t it Paul Newman who helped with the Israel-modern-state (1947) establishment movie “Exodus” along with Jewish brother Otto Preminger? And not to slight Ingrid Bergman as “A Woman Called Golda"; surely an Emmy winner chosen in Heaven.
It’s just that these later books of the Bible haven’t been written yet, right? They’re still in draft form… But, hey, thanks! for the sneak previews... and the congratulations!
Another Jew-hating Christian. Weren't you guys trying to eradicate anti-Semitism from your religion? Dang, even the Pope has apologized for past anti-Jewish behavior by the Catholic Church (I know, I know, you're probably not a Catholic and the Pope doesn't speak for you, blah, blah, blah... but still, how can you call yourself a Christian and still support the extermination of an entire people?).
Even more amazing is how Germany would almost let Greece die,
but it won't stop sending shitloads of cash to the hamas and hezbollah thugs.
The reasoning is simple. Of the millions the EU sends to the miniArafats, a lot goes back to fill the pockets of the corrupt politicians in the EU. The miniArafats keep some pocket change for their own personal use.
And everyone is happy. If only the european taxpayers knew!
you conveniently forgot about the 2 nuclear subs Germany sent to Israel recently.. Free of charge of course.. That's ok.. those don't count.. The well armed arab armies could take them out easily with all the AK's they got from Russia.. Clown
Volksgenossen...selling to Juden?
Das ist verboten!
nicht kaufen,, macht frei.. naturlich
Bien sûr, sale Boche.
I wonder how the term judefetzen came into existence?
I wonder how the term "fascist pig" came into being? Oh, that's right, for freaks like you!
Why do the Israel-haters not exhibit any hatred for those that oppress the Arabs in Palestine? These cynical butchers wear the robes of religion as they place their weapons in hospitals, schools and mosques.
Why do the Israel-haters not save some of their hate for those that use their own people for human shields?
Suggesting that war be avoided -- a war which would take the lives of Americans, Israelis, Iranians and others -- can hardly be called hatred of the Jews.
Do the Jews who oppose war hate jews? Does one have to insist on killing every Muslim man, woman and child in order to avoid the label of "jewhater?"
Now you are the dispassionate observer? LOL. Go back and look at your loony links again; they aren't objective.
Can you be more specific? I mostly linked to things that Jewish people had said. Please don't tell me YOU hate Jews!
Regarding human shields, is this the video you were looking for?
Again, banned on youtube so you can only see it here:
http://theforbiddentruth.net/videos/504/israelis-ganging-up-children.html
I couldn't finish watching it. Makes me want to cry.
Why are the Israel-haters not willing to give one single articulate reason for their hate?
Because there isn't one. Not one.
All I see here are links to sites that in themselves offer no coherent logical statement.
These Israel-haters seem to have lost all reason and prefer to wallow in irrational emotions.
One reason. In sentences and paragraphs. In coherent logical English.
They can't. There isn't one. Not one.
Nothing they want to voice too specifically, anyway.
As Ayn Rand (a Jew) would say: Check your premises.
Your premise that people who do not wish Israel or America to become involved in a war which is costly in both blood and treasure can not reasonably be called "Israel-haters."
A man who sincerely wanted an answer for the question you posed would admit as much.
Correct, but you have to admit, the way he posed it gives him the appearance of a well read intellect.. That must account for something..
Tutor boy! Finished grading your papers in time to get in on the iran posts? Ha ha.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_rJnTnq0_0
Is this you?
When I was in sixth grade I tutored a second grader who had some behavioral problems and was falling behind in class. I was patient with him, treated him like a human being and made sure we had fun learning. I recall that we had a little nerf basketball and hoop and when he got a problem right we made a few shots. His attitude and his grades improved quickly. He always had the ability, he just needed some personal attention and affirmation of self worth.
I hope he is well today, out there somewhere.
Lucky for the kid he wasn't a Jew. You probably would've just turned him in to the Gestapo.
I suspected you might be the kind of guy who is drawn to children with learning disabilities.
Attacking someone for displaying genuine altruism . . . the saddest thing is, you are not unique. America is fucking pathetic.
Dear Francis
I do not hate Israel, nor do I hate the Palestinians (Muslims and Christians).
But I do hate the incessant Israeli building of settlements on Palestinian lands and I hate the never-ending violence that Palestinians, Hamas, Hezbollah, inflict upon Israel.
The Middle East needs a Ghandi for neither the Koran, nor the Old Testament seem to leading to peace in the Middle East.
And may I remind you the Herr Hitler murdered millions of Jews, Gypsies, Christians and political adversaries, but he murdered more Russians than any other group of peoples.
Hypothetically speaking, of course.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo_MBwT3nHM
What about the building of settlements in Mexican lands (California, Nevada, Arizona, Texas, New Mexico).
What a hypocrite fool you are.
Dear Francis
I do not hate Israel, nor do I hate the Palestinians (Muslims and Christians).
But I do hate the incessant Israeli building of settlements on Palestinian lands and I hate the never-ending violence that Palestinians, Hamas, Hezbollah, inflict upon Israel.
The Middle East needs a Ghandi for neither the Koran, nor the Old Testament seem to leading to peace in the Middle East.
And may I remind you the Herr Hitler murdered millions of Jews, Gypsies, Christians and political adversaries, but he murdered more Russians than any other group of peoples.
I agree, and even a few of my jewish acquaintances are distancing themselves from problem Israel. Some others apparently prefer to go down with the ship.
And yet you offer not one reason Americans should fund, and die, for Israel. Videos speak volumes, Hasbarat.
Because they are a democracy surrounded by totalitarian states. Because they are a capitalistic economy surrounded by thuggish command economies. Because we have long-standing historical ties. Because they are under attack by jihadist Islamic fascists who have also spilled much American blood and are our common enemies. Because nobody protected the Jews from Hitler's ovens and we will not let that happen again (and it would, if we didn't support Israel). Because it pisses you, Crockett and the rest of the Nazis off so much.
Holy shit, you are so fucking stupid that you are not even aware that there is a box to think outside of. You are truly a disgrace to Jews everywhere, you dumb fuck.
I hate Jews because they are the main competition for the title of "master race." Good enough for you, dimwit?
Wow, look at all the new avatars/commenter's! So help me catch up here - who here dislikes the Israeli Government, U.S. support of Israel, Neo-Con Zionists, etc., and which of you just dislike "Jews" in general? Thanks for clarifying. Cheers!
Who are you, Woody Woodpecker . . . you know, some kind of instigator?
No, just a Jew. No affiliation.
It was only an esoteric Seinfeld reference...
Ok, thanks for clarifying.
Seinfeld is great. He's not only one of the funniest people alive, but he uses humor to illuminate seemingly intractable social problems. Like this:
Jerry: Yeah, I got some family backstage. Course my family's nuts; they're crazy. Yep. My uncle Leo, I had lunch with him the other day, he's one of these guys that anything goes wrong in life, he blames it on anti-Semitism. You know what I mean, the spaghetti's not al dente? Cook's an anti-Semite. Loses a bet on a horse. Secretariat? Anti-Semitic. Doesn't get a good seat at the temple. Rabbi? Anti-Semite.
Classic jewish humor which plays on Jewishness itself much like the Marx Brothers and so many other great comedians.
Once again it appears this issue has lots of people's interest. I'm glad Americans (and other host nations) are waking up, and Israel-firsters can no longer stop it! :)
"Wow, look at all the new avatars/commenter's! So help me catch up here - who here dislikes the Israeli Government, U.S. support of Israel, Neo-Con Zionists, etc., and which of you just dislike "Jews" in general? Thanks for clarifying. Cheers!"
Ok, well, I have to go and get the family fed, but it looks to me like a thread of commenter's who just have strong personal feelings. But no one who just dislikes "Jews" outright. Thanks!
awww come on.. you're not going to throw out the timeless "jewhate" or "anti-semite" ?? for ole time sakes?.. LOL
scroll down...simple question.
How is a desire to quit funding a terrorist country, or die for it's benefit, equate with being a hater? The labels are getting old.
So if we don't give more to Israel than any other single country, we are "haters"? It's not like we're advocating this behavior:
http://careandwashingofthebrain.blogspot.com/2010/08/unholy-trinity-israel-zionists-and.html
"How is a desire to quit funding a terrorist country, or die for it's benefit, equate with being a hater? The labels are getting old."
Sorry, were you referring to my comments? If so, I am simply trying to clarify if there are any commenter's who have an outright dislike for people of Jewish/Israeli - ethnicity/religion. I'm referring specifically to your average run of the mill Jew - nothing more.
Hi Village Idiot,
Nice to see you. What's for dinner?
bbq'd salmon, fresh white sweet corn, garlic infused spinach and mushrooms, popsicle.
That sounds good. I had baked chicken, mac and cheese and home grown corn on the cob and sliced tomatoes. But yours sounds better. Mushrooms sound very tempting.
Lucky kids.
and avoids answering the question in 3... 2... 1...
and avoids answering the question in 3... 2... 1...
I won't comment on who you might be referring to, but this was the point of my exercise - who wants to be honest here? many will not be able to square their true position/feelings, until they are.
"...do not wish Israel and America to become involved in a war..."
The war in the Middle East is real. It is fought every day. The real villains are the religion-mad Arabs that feel any number of Palestinian children is worth an Israel corpse. Peace between Arab and Jew is possible if Arabs begin by conceding Israel's right to exist. Hamas-Fatah-Hizballah-Iran-Syria-Lebanon refuse.
The Israelis choose not to be destroyed in this war.
"...object to the settlements."
Fine. So the Israelis withdraw to the 1967 borders. Then the Fatah-Hamas "patriots" move their rocket positions up to that line and start the whole thing over again. The Israelis are reacting to the attacks. Reacting strongly. Just like anyone would that doesn't want to be destroyed. I condemn any Jew that kills any Palestinian that is not attempting to kill him. Too bad Israel-haters don't reciprocate that sentiment.
"...Kangaroo court that established Israel..."
If you object to the European-American entities that established Israel then you must object to the establishment by those same bodies of Jordan, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq by those same bodies.No? Why not. Are you an Israel-hater?
Israel will not allow itself to be destroyed.
If God created man in his own image how can you be so sure about the evil intentions of the Palestinians?
On a more secular note, even Ronald Reagan said, "Trust but verify."
Sounds reasonable to me.
The best example of the Arab ideal of an independent Palestine may be seen in Gaza, an area that the Israelis withdrew from with no coercion. Western governments donated millions in the hope of fostering an economically viable state. It quickly became a nest of pseudo-religious insanely murderous para-militaries eager to trade the lives of their own people for an Isreali corpse.
The Israelis withdrew with no coercion from southern Lebanon in the hopes of fostering a non-militarized Arab enclave. Iran has transported into this area, with the connivance of Syria, heavy weapons and shock-troops whose sole declared purpose is the destruction of Israel.
Israel chooses not to be destroyed.
"Israel chooses not to be destroyed"
Yeah, but with American lives and lots of our money, too. Now, I choose not to fund or support Israel any longer. Everybody should make their own choices, right Fran? Take a look at these stats:
http://careandwashingofthebrain.blogspot.com/2010/08/murder-by-numbers-and-why-kant-i-spel.html
How/why should anyone believe you have?
Francis
After the Holocaust and in Britain's weakened political and financial position they promised the same Palestinian lands to the "Israelis" and the Palestinian Arabs (including Palestinian Christians).
So do the Jewish people have a right to life ? Of course. Is the nation of Israel a fact ? Of course.
But I fail to see the long term future of Israel as the Arab nations around Israel continue to grow in population and Israel shrinks in relative terms. A fence cannot be built high enough and countries do not have friends, only interests.
The belligerence presented by Hamas and Hezbollah is a monstrous impediment but the building of Israeli settlements through forced removal of Palestinians from their homes and land are creating the seeds of the long term destruction of Israel, in my humble opinion.
Such logical statements produce no responses. Fuck, I hate people. Emotion driven / illogical pieces of shit, all of you.
Israel chooses not to be destroyed.
The choices being made by Israel's ill equipped stewards will likely lead to the destruction of Israel. If no two state solution is arrived at soon, the Palestinians will win the demographic game both in Israel and in the Occupied Territories.
The Palenstinians have a state. It's called Jordan. They also have the Gaza Strip and some of the West Bank. But that is not enough. They want it all.
And the lie of your position becomes intimately clear: Arabs in Israel have citizenship, can vote, and are represented in Parliament. How many Jews can live safely in *any* of the Arab nations? Zero. That's why the Jews need a nation of their own.
And don't be too sure about that whole "demographics" thing. The Jews of Israel have always been outnumbered and always will be. Yet still they've created in 60 years an economy that outshines any of their Arab neighbors and a military strength that the Arabs simply cannot beat.
Keep dreaming of driving the Jews into the sea, Nazi. Ain't gonna happen.
Without the American superpower, i.e., the world’s greatest economy that was built on freedom yet ironically established the modern socialist state of Israel (as defined by Netanyahu himself) and sustains it every day, it would perish within hours.
The token Arabs represented in Netanyahu’s parliament are not doing very well. Eight minority members can accomplish zero. One can always be given voting rights if they can’t affect anything. But let them try to do something and then see what happens. In short, Israel is trying to say it is a democracy without being one.
Anyone who is a Jew can have automatic citizenship in Israel; when Arabs are granted that right in Israel, then Israel is approaching a Democratic state. As it is, Israel's law of return gives automatic citizenship to anyone in the world with at least one Jewish grandparent. IOW, Israel is a Jewish homeland; it is not a citizen homeland. At the moment it can only be called a Jewish state. It is a misnomer to say that it is a democracy.
So, by your definition, a democracy can only be called a democracy if it supports unrestricted immigration and open borders? Hmmm... guess the US isn't a democracy either, huh?
. . . The US doesn't have open borders? Seriously, are you just trying to spout ignorance at this point?
. . . How many Jews live peacefully in Iran? Not only are you stupid, you are ignorant, as well. A double blow; I'm honestly shocked that you are able to type in complete sentences.
I have yet to see one reason why Israel should not exist.
If there is no reason why it should not exist it follows that a modus vivendi must be established to secure Israel and satisy Arab claims. Israel has everything to gain from such an exercise and has demonstrated it's willingness to pursue that goal innumerable times since 1948. Mutual trust is the sole pre-requisite.
But Israel has been thwarted in its efforts for peace. Since 1948 it has been repeatedly rewarded with invasion, terrorism and threat of extermination by the tyrant du jour, of which the Iranian beast is only the latest example, at every turn with the notable and noble exceptions of Anwar Sadat and the late king of Jordan.
Where is the broad Arab recognition of the futility of the blood-letting in the region. Could it be that they are emboldened to continue their support for the murderers by the Israel-haters?
Let the blood be upon them.
Israel chooses not to be destroyed.
francis
Your passion for Israels right to exist overshadows your compassion for the Palestinians right to their own land.
1. I doubt that any of the "Jew/Israeli haters" will add an ounce more to the hate most of Israels neighbors already have.
2. While Sadats and Jordans detente with Israel is certainly notable, noble it is not.
Please tell me how you and Israel intend to bring Israels neighbors over to embracing Israels right to exist ? It certainly is not by bulldozing family homes.
Absolutely.
If one reads Mark Twain's The Innocents Abroad it becomes rapidly apparent that all three major religions have been disputing over this territory for thousands of years. It is also an historical fact that Arab countries such as Egypt and Syria and Lebanon had large thriving Jewish populations until the rise of Arab nationalism after WWII and the creation of the State of Israel.
It is also an historical fact that NO ONE gave a shit, and particularly NONE of the Arab states gave a shit about the Palestinians until after the Arab states lost all of that territory in the 1967 war. So a lot of this outrage about Palestine is at best fraudulent and at worst a tool of convenience to effectuate the destruction of a non-Islamic state in the middle of the Fertile Crescent.
I also submit to you that there is a SIGNIFICANT difference between the rational arguments put forth on behalf of the rights of the so-called Palestinians and the obviously anti-semitic rantings of our deranged friend israsshole.
What do you mean by "so-called Palestinians"?
And perhaps your "anti-semitic" label might be taken more seriously if you didn't reference Mark Twain in your example. He had a thing or two to say about jews!
Now if you're constantly going to pretend you're a victim when you lash out with name-calling, you can expect to get called out. Btw, still no video or links? Who could take you serious?
Whether he should be taken seriously is established by the strength and clarity of his verbal presentation.
The history necessary for a proper understanding of the middle east conflict cannot be adequately presented in internet links. And those who have studied the history, and so know, don't need the links. The immaturity of your presentations on these links astounds me. But what astounds me more is the evidence that you present that demonstrates you don't know that you don't know. Sad.
A palestinian state with it's capital in Paris, France is the answer.
Arafat would agree. He loved living there.
Morrison enjoyed dying there.
"I choose not to fund or support Israel."
Fine.
See you at the ballot box in November.
I only hope enough Americans realize voting for ANY Israel-firster is a big, fat mistake, regardless of party.
In the meantime, you could go fight for what you believe in, instead of pushing others to do it for you.
And still, before the November elections, during the November elections and AFTER the Novermber elections your tax dollars will be going to support the state of Israel!
Oh, how that must burn, absolutely burn! Sucks to be you!
Israel also chooses to do this to people. Get it while it's fresh, b/c jewtube will ban this asap!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJpj_DK78js&feature=player_embedded
Some "light unto nations", eh Fran? How could you justify this for even a second? Not with my money, and not with my brother.
Any aggressor who watches this, israhole, and justifies it, is an animal. And any American who says God Is With Us! on this issue is a hypocrite.
Consider the Islamic Peril. And while you're doing that, I'll be over here dismantling your Constitution.
Lets not for get the Ethiopian Jews (Attenkun) either, in fact DNA tests show them to have a more direct linage/ethnicity than most modern day Jewry, yet their treatment is that of lesser status. Bloody skin color based endogamy, well it wasn't always such.
Palistinaians or Ethiopians, the conduct is the same.
Skippy...very cheeky of me..eh..."royal gifts" are interpreted by some as sexual contact..lol...Queen of Sheba either married or had any sexual relations with King Solomon...royal gittin bizzy come home to roost..eh.
What no Zionist replies?
Oh well see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqccyUpnZwA&feature=related
Skippy...the final arbitrator is DNA...trix is for kids.
Problem is most people talk about the debate in this context see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gGZAIFteAg&feature=related
Kayman, your sincerity and ability to string two thoughts together without the noxious blathering of many on this site are welcome.
I do not defend Israeli destruction of Arab homes, gardens, orchards, institutions or any other structures.
I grieve for any family that loses any loved one.
I denounce in the strongest terms the confiscation of land from any person without legitimate reason.
However, please consider that overreaction may occur in the face of an existential threat. Incessant war has led to atrocities on both sides.
It is the difficult duty of those that seek peace in any inveterate dispute to ignore the cries for vengeance, the manifest injustices their own people have suffered and those that only seek to call attention to the body count perpetrated by their enemies.
For that reason, I have only one purpose in this discussion, to demonstrate that victory for Israel is survival and victory for the Arabs is the extermination of Israel. All of Israel's actions are animated by that realization. All of the Arabs actions are animated by that conviction.
The Arabs must relent before peace is possible. Israel is waiting.
To allow the issue to be clouded by the excesses of a few only clouds the issue and serves the extremists on both sides.
Those wishing for an equitable solution must stop expecting Israel to lie down and die; and stop ignoring the efforts of the Arab states and Iran (and others) to destroy Israel.
Israel will not be destroyed.
You Americans will never defeat Arab man Iranians will destroy you We have sand make glass we control your tv's your computers without glass you not so called superpower american Saddam will destroy you (Saddam lives you kill look alike only fools believe Saddam dead) - You not win war since you win Grenada you beat platoon of Cuban soldiers persians much better soldiers than Cubans - you lose vietnam you lose korea you lose iraq you lose Afghanistan - You Americans are Losers - Arabman destroy you American - You are so Stupid American - We will bring your blue eyed blondes with big tits back Iran have many babies growup kill many Jews - You are so Stupid you let Federal Reserve rule your Country American - Greenspan Goldberg goldman rubin greenberg bernake weil these people rule you these math very hard for me american 12 - (-65) = 53 right
Hi Defiant1968,
How did you decide on "Doctor Strangelove" as your avatar?
Geez, don't you have some Arab website you can go on to spout your hate? Because, you know, Arabs invented the Internet and all, right?
In fact, I don't think the Arabs have invented a damn thing since the 13th century. You can't even make your own weapons! Good luck on your little attempt to bring down America and Israel. Many have tried and they've all failed.
But keep dreaming, dumbass. At least in your dreams, your fascist fantasies can come true!
Looks just like me - I miss Slim Pickens!
It is disturbing and disgusting to hear some here claim some special concern for American treasure and blood because it may be used in defense of Israel.
No amount of explanation, historical explication, reason or example seems to permit them to eliminate the beam in their eye where the American commitment to Israel is concerned.
Israel is an ally beset by murderers howling for their blood. These animals are bristling with every available weapon supplied by tyrants and totalitarians supported by a religious sect that professes unqualified support for destroyers of of Israel.
These enemies of Israel have violated every legal national and moral law in pursuit of their avowed goal and use their own children as fodder in their efforts.
Like those that applauded the Czech surrender of the Sudenland at the behest of their perfidious the English and the French in 1936, to secure "peace in our time" those jealous of American efforts in the defence of Israel only seem to listen to the specious promises of the aggressor, oblivious of the legitimate hopes of their victims.
America's role in the world today, like that of Israel, is the product of complex causes that are too easily ignored and too often deliberately misunderstood or mischaracterized. The surest and most unassailable proof of America's benevolence in the world since 1917 is the chorus of nations that quietly or actively support and appreciate our efforts to defend freedom in the world.
Old allies like Western Europe continue to support us through thick and thin. New allies like Poland second us. Small nations like Taiwan, Israel and Georgia look to us to fulfull our historic mandate. Large nations like Russia and China hold their plans of aggrandizement in abeyance because of our might and resolve.
These speaking here with their scruples for American blood and treasure being spent for the defence of Israel- is their reservation the time-honored admonition as old as our nation that we stay within our own borders? That is a sadly obsolete and disturbing notion in this world.
And if these speakers save their jealousy of American resources for Israel alone, what tradition do they subscribe?
Disgusting.
Israel will not be destroyed.
Bravo!
Swamp Fox,
You live in a nation in which the redistribution of wealth is the norm. I object to all redistribution of wealth from those who earn it to those who have not earned it.
By supporting a system which redistributes the wealth of working Americans to Israel, you also support a system which uses taxpayer money for so called sex education in our schools, abortion of human fetuses, anti-Christian art and literature and more.
It makes me very uncomfortable to be forced to pay for things which not only do not benefit me, but to which I am viscerally opposed. Do you feel the same way about taxpayer funded abortions? If you can understand this feeling how can you in good conscience expect me to go against my own conscience in matters of war, slaughter and destruction.
When Christ looks at me on Judgement Day and says "You allowed your tax money to be used to kill my children, and so you have done the same to me" what shall I say to him? His kingdom is NOT of this world and on the day on which we might enter his kingdom it would be best to go there with full knowlege that we are poor in spirit, meek and makers of peace.
When and if (and that's a big "if") Christ looks at you on judgment day, I'm sure the only thing he's going to say to you is "You supported Hamas, you dumbass?"
Then he'll flick the lever that opens the trapdoor that sends your fascist ass to Hell (again assuming that there is such a thing as a Hell).
Or, you'll just die and go into the ground like everyone else and your poisonous hate will die with you, assuming you haven't given the gift of hate to any children you might have.
"assuming that there is such a thing as a Hell"
Hell = hades = the grave. Look it up on Wikipedia.
And death and hell (death and the grave) were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. -Revelation 20:11-15