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Iraq Part 2: UN Says Syria Violated International Nuclear Agreements
Well, if anyone was looking for the green light to invade Syria, here it is:
- UN SAYS SYRIA VIOLATED NUCLEAR AGREEMENTS
- SYRIA VIOLATED INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENTS, BUILT REACTOR
And in case there is any doubt who is next:
- UN NUCLEAR WATCHDOG EVALUATING NEW IRAN WEAPON DOCUMENTS
It's a good thing the UN found all those WMDs that were the pretext to establish Halliburton's oil extracting infrastructure in Iraq. Then again, history never repeats itself.
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Syria violated UN conventions. NATO accidentally invades Zimbabwe.
News at 11.
This is not like the 1940's where we were able to get out of a depresion by joinning a war and building factorys. We dont have any factorys or dry docks to build shit!
Well the government would just pay people to create factories and give plenty of shovel ready (make work) jobs.
They could hire a few million people to sweep the streets
Now THATS producing something......
Oh wait, no that doesn't produce or stimulate any economic growth.
We already spend more than the rest of world combined on "defense". How much more shit do we need?
Syria and Iran would feel threatened if we didn't continually threaten them, so our MENA policy will always come back to bite us on our own asses.
We've never forgiven Iran for reneging on their oil contract with the English, which basically gave them 100% of the oil for about $1/bbl.
"This is not like the 1940's where we were able to get out of a depression by joining a war ". This is not true.
This is what the US & Zionist propaganda machine likes you to think. In the reality, world Jewish banksters declared a war on Germany in 1933. FDR, being their servant, has done everything in his power to initiate the WWII.
In addition, both Stalin and Hitler wanted to destroy the world Jewish banking oligarchy. It was clearly stated in their the Soviet & Nazi Germany in their secret agreement of cooperation between Gestapo and NKVD signed on Nov. 11, 1938.
However, in the late 1940, Stalin double-crossed Hitler by intending to capture the entire Europe for himself. This forced Hitler to attack USSR first, just 2weeks before Stalin planned to attack Nazi Germany. FDR and Jewish banking oligarchy did not know about this Pact before the end of the WWII. This was the cause for starting the "Cold War" between the West banking oligarchy and Stalin. They learned that Stalin was not their friend at all.
The bottom line: the Rothschild, Oppenheimer, Warburg, Schiff, and other leading Jewish bankers were greatly responsible for both the WWI and WWII. Now, we are in early stages of the WWIII. Enjoy it.
I'm looking for sources for Red Army disposition pertaining to Soviet attack on Germany. Got any?
More revisionist history.
Stalin sucked Hitler's dick until Hitler invaded. They even cooperated to kill Poland.
And the Internet was supposed to spread truth.
Ah NATO, you mean that organization that was formed as a defense against Russia expansion into Eastern European countrys that is now an offensive weapon
Yep that's be the one -- now used as a sledgehammer to intimidate Russia and China's international interests everywhere. NATO needs to be sunset already
First thing first... one job at the time.The Lybian people waiting for they liberators. /sarc/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LII4opY7mbg
...except Syria actually DID build a reactor of PRK design. The Israelis bombed it. Has everyone forgotten already?
I'll start caring about violations of nuclear agreements when the US has zero nuclear weapons
UN is so TOUGH!
If they think its so bad, send in your own troops you paper tiger
We're gonna take you back, to the year 1939 when Charlie Chaplin and his nazi regime enslaved Europe and tried to take over the world...
But then an even greater force emerged, the U.N.
and the U.N. un-nazied the world - forever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DueSvcjn810
They should UNtie their UNamerican asses from our shores. USeless sack o'shit
TPTB surely have given up all attempts at hiding 'it', haven't they? It's been going on for so long and the 'sheeple' are so conditioned now that there is no need for subterfuge or veiling the blatent attempts at hedgemony and oil.
So pathetic to watch.
Indeed. History does not always repeat itself, but crimes certainly do . . . until they're punished.
We're literally dealing with mass murderers here. What ever happened to that old rule of thumb that they really want to be stopped?
I blame fiat. I wonder how many of the ignorant sheeple would tolerate this, if they were visibly taxed for it, rather than invisible.
What.. and have to give up thier iPhones and Cable? It would never fly... ;)
For each bomb we drop, each American has to give up 1 channel from thier 5,000 channel line-up. Oprah's network goes first..
Followed by MTV. That would get the yoofs up in arms.
Ahh..., the utes of America.
Syria has no oil. Their reactor was already bombed to smithereens by Israel prior to ever even getting fueled.
Yeah but Iran has oil. And Syria and Iran are allies. Attack Syria, and you attack Iran.
invade with what money? we are done.
I second that.
Noooo - the American taxpayer will foot the bill.
That's how it works - 'socialist' europe 'wastes' their taxes on unaffordable hospitals and schools - the US Government wastes it's citizens taxes on war and weapons.
Besides - as per the peak oil theory - the major nations will waste yet more oil fighting over the remaining (and diminishing) oil in an act of self centredness that would make Gordon Gecko wince.
I hate to break it to you - but your Government see's war as the only way out of this depression - and by that I mean the government, not the president.
(for Government see alliance of Goldman, Halliburton, McDonalds etc.)
Best comment. Damn socialists looking out for the health and happiness of all the people. They should learn from us and resume killing brown and tan people. Better use of finite resources.
Yes, how much longer can the money machine make war? What happens when the dollar is not the reserve currency? A war will not fix the economy, cause the only thing we make is weapons of war and movies. We need to produce everything to wage a major war. Our war machine is only possible now, because of the money machine, and there is no larger country poised to bail us out as we did Britain. What happens now?
Yes the people in Cuba and North Korea are so very happy because their leaders are looking out for their health and happiness. The Cambodians were so happy under Pol Pot and the USSR was the workers paradise because Stalin wanted his people to be happy.
Not socialism dummy. No matter how many times Rush and Glenn tell you it is.
We have to pay for ObamaCare somehow.
Y'all have no idea of what you unleashed, do you?
YAY! I will claim useless distinctions when it fit's my desires of imagery. Socialism as defined by Nises is Government Interventionism. Whether or not those Government are opressive dictatorships doesn't matter. All Government end the same way, by Fascist control.
So much for public education....
as long as fiat is traded for crude, there is no "done"
Think some banksters might be willing to loan us the money . . . as long as we properly embrace "austerity" to show we're "serious" about "protecting 'American interests'"?
ObamaCare and carbon trading will require sacrifices...from everyone.
Heh.
Yay! Does this mean more of those neat night vision shots by CNN et al of shit blowing up in Damascus?
Oh I do hope so.
"The burden against Damascus.
“ Behold, Damascus will cease from being a city,
And it will be a ruinous heap."
Isaiah 17:1
Only way I see this happening is a nuclear attack.
What aboutIsrael's violation of international nuclear agreements? Oh yeah, they don't want to enter into one of those things.
Oy vey! international agreements are for schmucks.
not cool to point out blatant hypocrisy. -1
You mean like.
"Iran could become a terrorist state under a nuclear umbrella"
Which is totally our thing. You can't steal our thing. We gots patents on it.
What about Pakistan and India's violation?
violation of what? Neither Pukistan nor India were signatories of the NPT.
Israel wasn't either.
they have no oil. they will be ignored.
Thank you for pointing this out among all of the "war for oil" comments. Not every US invasion is for oil. I just finished TAing a class at an upper level US university and was appalled to realize that the majority of students think that we are in Afghanistan for oil, and that Afghans* (and Iranians*) speak Arabic! The (rightful) critique of the Iraq/Kuwait/Libyan wars is now applied liberally to all conflicts.
*fwiw Iran and Afghanistan speak Persian and Pasto, respectively, which are more closely related to French than they are to Arabic.
I believe it's Farsi in Iran. I agree with you that many college students are unbelievably dumb but believe they are genius if not gifted. There was a girl in my grad economics class who complained because gas was cheaper in Venezuela and Saudi Arabia. It never occurred to her that both countries are awash in oil, subsidize fuel, and don't have to follow EPA rules.
In a discussion on World Systems Theory, some of my grad classmates were equally clueless on such matters. It certainly doesn't imbue one with a sense of confidence regarding the future.
Regarding the language, we are both correct--Farsi is another name for the modern dialect of Persian.
But..., pesto is a sauce..., is it not?
S/B "Pashto", spoken by Pashtuns, etc.
Oil is exactly why the US went into Afghanistan, and now with the abundance of raw materials found in the dirt they will never leave. The US wants to build a pipeline through Afghanistan to move all of the oil out from under the Caspian Sea, circumventing Iran. They wanted to wait until a more US-friendly regime was in place, and after the 9/11 farce they had a "justifiable" reason to put troops on the ground there. They speak Urdu and Pashto in Afghanistan, and Farsi in Iran btw.
By the way, Farsi IS Persian. They speak Urdu, Pasto, Tajik and numerous other languages in Afghanistan, if you want to be so particular (this doesn't change my point however, that all of them are more closely related to European languages than they are to Arabic). And secondly, Afghanistan has no border on the Caspian Sea, so why didn't the US invade Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan (which is currently a dictatorship. It would be easy to do so under the auspice of humanitarian intervention) or Azerbaijan? And where does this pipeline extend to, as Afghanistan is landlocked? Are we going to airlift oil out of Tajikistan/Kyrgzystan where US air bases are?
Across Afghanistan out to Karachi, Pakistan if I recall correctly. Cannot find the link right now, but I will. Hard to justify an invasion of Turkmenistan and Kazakhstan though. You still believe the US went into Afghanistan to find OBL who repeatedly DENIED any involvement in 9/11? Don't you think that if OBL were holed up in a mountain somewhere plotting the greatest attack on American soil ever that he would have claimed FULL RESPONSIBILITY with much chest-pounding rather than denying any involvement yet praising those that pulled it off?
Junked all you fuckers for ignorance masked as ivory tower doctrine: Dari and Pashto bitchez! Don't write about shit that you have no clue of....
Dari IS Farsi IS Persian. For the purposes of the non-linguist they are the same. Were you home schooled? If not, then you probably learned something from the academic establishment, even if you had to wade through a lot of garbage/propaganda to get to the real information.
Listen to me very closely: Stop now while you are still holding on to 10% of your credibility. If you want to continue down this path, I will embarrass you beyond recovery in front of the entire ZH community. The warning is in place and the choice is yours. Proceed at your own peril....
'Tis better to be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
But Zap, he was TAing! ;- )
As mentioned, I am a graduate student. I didn't claim to bring any expertise to the discussion beyond a mild indictment of college students' intelligence, some trivial linguistic details, and basic geography (Afghanistan is a landlocked country without significant oil reserves.) While proof of the first is made available to us by the Girls Gone Wild series, the second two are available via wikipedia or the Internet if you prefer those sources to the "ivory tower". What of this is embarrassing, incorrect, or so foolish that it warrants cyber-bullying on your part or a loss of 90% of my credibility? Do you think that perhaps I argue for the general perspective advanced at ZH when lecturing to students who would otherwise have no way of trying to see around the propaganda or avoid profound Ivy League indoctrination? I've heard it mentioned elsewhere on ZH that most of us hold very similar viewpoints, yet we waste time antagonizing each other over minutae, or in your case, nothing at all. So, what path were you suggesting we could continue down at my "peril" (is it perilous to apply for a new username)?
"Now you's can't leave."
I'd expect that an anthropologist who studied at Saint Vincent College and has spent time OCONUS (presumably Northern Argentina) wouldn't write something as utterly preposterous as "Dari IS Farsi IS Persian" with conviction. (Also, what is a 'non-linguist'? Are we talking about mute people or what? Science has proven that even plants talk to each other.) It's that comment that leads me to believe that you downed one too many Rolling Rocks while you went to school in Latrobe. Your comments give me a slight hint as to your knowledge level of Central Asia, but before I really open this up, please indulge me by answering the following questions so we can gauge at what level this argument should ensue:
1. Aya ta pa pakhto khabarey kawalai shey?
2. How many years have you lived in Afghanistan?
3. What is your experience in politics, tribal culture, and the role of language in Central Asia, with emphasis on Afghanistan?
If those are too overbearing, then please just entertain me by defining the following: "Afghani" And use it in a sentence for me.
Bottom line is that I stated that people shouldn't write about shit that they don't have a concrete understanding of. Yet, you decided to come after me. Do you see me trying to debate Tyler about the fiscal ramifications of POMO or the intricacies of the FMOC? No. Why? Because I don't have a concrete enough base in those topics, so I STFU and learn.
Not bullying dude, I was just trying to be a gentleman by letting you walk away quietly, because I have yet to see evidence that you're a troll. Please answer my questions at your earliest convenience so that we can continue-on to the debate.
To anyone else reading this: apologies, bc this is becoming absurd. I hope someone finds this to be informative.
To clarify, I did down too many Rolling Rocks while in Latrobe. To clarify something else, many languages have their roots in Old Persian (Iranian). These languages, which comprise the Persian (Iranian) branch of the Indo-European language family number 87, according to one source. There are at least three modern varieties of Iranian (Persian) which, because of some degree of mutual intelligibility (speakers of the different dialects can make out the meaning intended) are not classified as different languages. These are 1.) Farsi, which is modern Persian (Iranian), 2) Dari, which is the variety of Persian spoken widely in Afghanistan, and Tajik, which is the variety of Persian spoken in Tajikistan. For someone who doesn't study this (aka a non-linguist. Someone whose profession is not linguist. Not a feral person who never learned to speak, or a plant that communicates without possessing language capabilities), which I count as more than 99% of the readers here, I can say for the purpose of this forum that Dari IS Farsi IS Persian because Dari, Farsi, and Tajik are three varieties of one language (Persian). (the differences consist of a few different vowels, loan words, and dipthongs).
1. Your question asked if I can speak Pashto. I can't (but I can use google to figure out what you wrote). I speak English, Spanish and Toba.
2. 0. How many of the people who have commented or reported on Fukushima have lived in Japan?
3. My wife manages a project concerning legal services and real estate markets in Tajikistan. I have accompanied her there. Part of that project advocates the using of Tajik, rather than Russian, in court proceedings. That led me to read up on it to some extent, despite not speaking it or living in Afghanistan. This is second hand, but still enough to give an off-hand remark.
Afghani can refer to one of two things: 1) A citizen/resident of the nation state of Afghanistan, or 2) a person who self-identifies as being part of the Afghani ethnic group (presumably this person is not bullshitting).
I agree with you that people shouldn't talk about what they don't know about. I still think I have a concrete enough understanding of this to post a comment on a thread where some comments are just "________ bitchez!"
Just out of curiousity, what is your relationship to Afghanistan/Central Asia? I presume from your comments, that you lived there?
This is fight club kid, don't apologize for anything.
Your response is exactly what I would have expected from someone who quickly scoured the internet for answers. Here is where the inherent problem lies with your generation: A reliance on 'Instant Information' (which is almost always unreliable) to transform yourself into an 'Instant Guru' who believes that they truly know what they are talking about. The internet works just like any other database in that it abides by the principles of 'junk in -> junk out'.
Case in point: 'Afghani' refers to one thing and one thing only, the monetary instrument of currency in Afghanistan. If you were to refer to anything as 'Afghani' other than the afghanis in your wallet, you would have immediately offended any native-born Afghan in addition to making yourself look extremely ignorant. So obviously that google search didn't work-out so well for you, did it? That mistake, if propagated, would have levied a hefty toll if you were in-country, depending upon the situation and who you were addressing.
So, because of your steadfast reliance on what the internet tells you, it is going to be impossible for me to convince you that "Dari IS Farsi IS Persian" is an absolutely absurd premise. But ponder this, if they are so similar why are they taught completely separate from each other? Even espanol speakers can take a four-week class to convert to portuguese, so ask yourself why its mandatory that Dari and Farsi are taught separately? Wouldn't it be much easier to just offer a conversion class? In addition to having you ponder these questions, I invite you to go speak Dari to a Farsi speaker and see how far you get. Or better yet, go speak Tajik to a Dari speaker and see how many rifle barrels get pointed in your direction.
I'm impressed that you tried to keep up, honestly I am, but your hypothesis is based on what you have studied on the internet and not what transpires in real life. Edgar Allen Poe adeptly wrote, "Believe only half of what you see and nothing that you hear." This comment should be amplified by ten if applied to information on the internet. And since you generously answered my questions, I will respond in kind: Yes, I lived there for a long time.
Seems like its just you and me on this message board, so why not continue discussing? I did not disappear because of an abrasive comment on your part, and now, after an insightful comment, I feel like I should give at least one more response. First of all, it would be quite easy for you to convince me that, on the ground, my over-assertion that "Dari IS Farsi IS Persian" would be a problem. You have convinced me that Dari and Persian are not interchangable on the ground because they are not exactly the same. My last post said though, that they are equivalent only for the purpose of this forum, not on the ground. I didn't say they were--I said they only differed--but only slightly. In fact, so little that some people would call them two dialects of the same language (see next post). You have a case that it shouldn't be glossed over like that in a forum, because the oversimplified info could get re-used somewhere else (junk in --> junk out). Is it possible that Farsi and Dari are taught differently because of the political tension in the region(clearly Tajik is taught differently bc it is written in Cyrillic)? I am sure that if the US was at Civil War, and foreigners were learning English to intervene, that it would matter whether they learned it with a Boston accent vs. a Southern one vs. British English. Could this be it? What are your thoughts? In fact, see the post below: there are conversion courses offered because of the similarity.
Which do you think is correct: Argentine or Argentinian? The fact that you might not be able to tell me doesn't make you unable, at least in my eyes, to comment on the Argentine ecnomic collapse in terms of silver's value in a hyperinflationary scenario, for instance. If you bar people from opinions based on something like that, then you are more elitist than people in "the ivory tower".
On the Spanish conversion to Portuguese point, so that you know (not sure of your on the ground experience in Latin America), I know people directly who tried to do it and said that it doesn't work. My best bud in grad school speaks Portuguese, and I speak Argentine Spanish, and we can't hold on a conversation in our second languages(not because we suck either). I think I would have a hell of a time with a conversion course.
While I did search the Internet for the details of my comments, I plugged the details into concepts I learned the hard way/long way. It is not easy to read Sapir, Whorf, Saussure, Chomsky (only his linguistics stuff) and other linguists/philologists (people who study the evolution of languages), but I have. The problem with it is that it is general theory (social science theories do not to explain 100% of real life occurances), and I thought that I could plug some details into it. Good thing that I can learn a lesson--not to overstate/oversimplify. Thank goodness too that I am not TOO prone to the instant information temptation (as you undoubtedly saw when you reviewed my other comments to see if I was a troll). I would not be going through a 7 year graduate program if I preferred that gaining knowledge were instantaneous. It is good to have the hand slapped as the eyes enlarge and the hand starts reaching for the low hanging (potentially rotten) fruit.
Lastly, I am not sure what type of information you would prefer someone to use to comment here: you poo-pooed ivory tower academic info and have now critiqued the Internet. Is there anything other than (50% of) first hand experience that is legitimate to you?
Apparently someone offers a Farsi--> Dari conversion course. Search the page for LKL826.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:O7fJqGbNDoEJ:forums.military.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/37919558/m/8960068712001%3Fr%3D7950097812001+dari+to+farsi+conversion+course&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com
"I'm learning Persian-Farsi right now and I like it a lot. It's pretty easy to learn in my opinion. It's extremely close to Dari so you'll be able to speak the language of Iran but also be able to understand Afghans pretty well. After I'm done with Farsi I take a mini Dari course so I can hopefully get double FLP pay."
It seems then, that I wasn't so far off regarding the Dari-Persian similarity. In fact, since there is mutual intelligibility (according to that comment), some linguists (Chambers/Tredgill) would argue that they are the same language. Considering that Farsi is Persian . . . . (http://www.google.com/products/catalog?rlz=1C1SNNT_enUS357US358&q=rosetta+stone+persian&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=853571572130100819&sa=X&ei=0PPdTdetC6jn0QHttKHTCg&ved=0CEEQ8wIwAw)
I understand your points, but we're running out of margin space, so I guess we'll just have to 'agree to disagree' on some of these issues. Have a good holiday weekend. Best, ZB.
Google "afghan oil pipeline"- there are only 2.2 million pages referencing it
Oil is exactly why the US went into Afghanistan, and now with the abundance of raw materials found in the dirt they will never leave. The US wants to build a pipeline through Afghanistan to move all of the oil out from under the Caspian Sea, circumventing Iran. They wanted to wait until a more US-friendly regime was in place, and after the 9/11 farce they had a "justifiable" reason to put troops on the ground there. They speak Urdu and Pashto in Afghanistan, and Farsi in Iran btw.
Is this the same reactor the Israelis destroyed a couple of years back?
I wondered about that too.
Yeah, funny how Israel blew it up instead of bringing it to the attention of the UN so it could be independently verified.
Probably dumped a few radionuclides at the same time to give the 'inspectors' something to 'find'.
it wasn't yet fueled, dumbass
You fail at reading comprehension.
Among many other things.
Wikipedia:
An International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) investigation reported evidence of uranium and graphite and concluded that the site bore features resembling an undeclared nuclear reactor.
Trav7777, The Man Who Knows All, strikes again.
Really, Trav, isn't there a KKK meeting you should be organising somewhere?
there appears to be more discovered as of feb this year...
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4033407,00.html
Sounds like it's time for the UN form a committee...
Is there room enough on this planet for a non-Jewish state?
Armageddon days are here, again!
Well, we need to print more money and now we will have a legitimate excuse.
Our Military machine at best. What else are we producing in US?
Debt. Strange how that equation works.
If war for oil is the premise, then Assad doesn't even rate NATO humanitarian air strikes.
Until the Security council invokes article 39 chapter VII of the UN charter, nothing can and will be done about it. The SC need to determine first if there is a threat to peace. So no need to rush on who's going to invade what. The UN is just ramping up the pressure by dusting old IAEA files because as always it is powerless until a state actually act on behalf of the SC.
Netanyahu is just now urging U.S. Congress to attack Iran.
I agree with Netanyahu. I would love to see our Congressmen and women personally attack Iran. We could make a movie out of it and call it "535".
LOL
No, No
"Attack Of The 535"
Since Israel is on everyone's mind, when will Israel join the NNPT so inspectors can go in there and evaluate their situation? Imagine if Cuba had nukes yet refused to join the NNPT.
Er... Saddly, the time will be when unicorns will be sniffing 100% pure cock with folded 1 trillion $ bills in the butt crack of flying pigs.
+1 freudian slip
Well, we spell it that way, but I suppose cocaïne would have been better... My bad
+++
ROFLMAO!
I cannot wait!
I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the unicorns and flying pigs , on the other hand the 1 trillion $ bills should hit the market in your lifetime.
Release the hounds of WW3! Right when US troop morale is at an all time low. Should work just great!
Haliburton
my gas tanks hurtin
round some terrorists
and draw the curtain
it's all their fault
of that I'm certain
Are Bush and Cheney still in the White House or did Halliburton buy off Obama?
Bush Derangement Syndrome is forever. Just like herpes and bureaucracies.
Russia and China might have a small problem with this action. Global thermonuclear war in 3, 2, 1...
Whoa dude, beat me by a second LOL!
So, when does Russia and China declare War in the UN and NATO?
The UN is another institution in a long line of ones that have become utterly useless and now exists outside of their original premise. It's time to end these facades.
If we can get off of this course and consolidate as is desperately needed, the UN will wither and die. The irrelevant, rediculous, useless, and expensive debating group that it has become.
The only real problem with the UN is that its current statutes empower 5 countries to exert the veto rule in security council to kill all initiative. This hangover from the cold war days, should now be scrapped; without veto powers we would get decisions based on majority vote!
Change the rules of UN and you get a harem eunuch structure that grows balls!
It is a world government body, it may grow balls (taxing power), but it will never be corruption free nor fulfill its mandate. Never has. Cite cases UN lovers out there.
that's pretty funny. "the only reral problem". funny!!
The General Assembly established the UNHRC by adopting a resolution (A/RES/60/251) on 15 March 2006, in order to replace the previous CHR, which had been heavily criticised for allowing countries with poor human rights records to be members.[1][2]
According to human rights groups, the council is controlled by a bloc of Islamic and African states, backed by China, Cuba and Russia, who protect each other from criticism.[3] UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon and former High Commissioner for Human Rights Mary Robinson have criticized the council for acting according to political considerations as opposed to human rights.
I'm certain this "news release" timing is coincidentally concurent with a certain war criminal addressing CONgress.
Sounds like the same rhyme from the same album though.
Sarkozy needs to "close the deal"....namely win his Nobel Peace Prize by now invading Syria.....
Ready.....Set.....Go!
Since wars are a classic way to stimulate a contracting economy,
This could be a White House alternative to QE3...
Yeah, that's it! That's the ticket!!
Attack Iran
Syria
Pakistan
Libya
Afghanistan
Iraq
And..... And.....
Iceland
don't forget Vatican City
Somewhere a month ago I read that under operation NATO/NWO (hitmen for hire) operatives were sprinkling radioactive pixie dust all about Pakistan and Syria.
Syria will not be invaded:
The Assad Family has a much bigger & stronger army than Libya.
There is no oil, so no interest in UN, NATO for "protecting" the people of Syria.
USA already intervening in too many places now.
Incredible to see army shooting the masses and masses continue protests.
Agreed - and honestly, mighty as the USA is, who seriously believes that the USA can successfully gain control of Iranian oil - under any pretext. From a military point of view invading Iran would be a nightmare, perhaps impossible. Sure it could be missiled to bits, but a ground offensive would be a bloodbath.
Baloney.
The U.S. army is the strongest, best and fiercest army in the world.
They are second to none.
They're gonna do the job !
They're gonna succeed without doubt !
The funny part is that without commie lib ROE, you'd be right.
George Bush was a closet Liberal.
Let me make this clear since you are new here.
Libya, syria, north korea, Iran, Cuba. All these places do NOT have a rothchilds controlled central bank. What do you think is going to happen to them? They will either be directly attacked. Riot incited and regime changed with a dictator or wiped out. Cuba is last on the list because it's subdued. North korea is second to last because it's subdued.
"Let me make this clear since you are new here."
Your preamble tells me more than all the bullshit you wrote after.
Ok. So you're saying syria is definitely not going to get invaded or bombed?
Syria: they will let them have their civil war. No need to bomb or invade.
Libya: if so, only to save Euro/Italy's ass.
North Korea: with second largest army, just maintain them off South Korea until feeble heir ruins themselves trying to take power from each other.
Cuba: already changing with Raul Castro.
Wow. You know how expensive it was to take iraq. Double that for libya. You know how hard it was to even get to where you could semi surivive inside of afghanistan. Half that for syria. You just really have no idea. The low hanging fruit has all been picked.
Just watch what will happen to Iran.
The rest is peanuts.
Breaking News....
Tape recording accidently records recent conference between French President Sarkozy, Sec of State Clinton and Fed Chairmen Bernank. )other officials reportedly were part of this conference call but are not heard on the recording. Officials are heard discussing recent plans to revive the economy.
Partial Transcrpt below:
Sec Clinton: ....I have just been speaking with members of U.S. military industrial complex as well as numerous high-level executives in the U.S. and European Banking sector and they all agree the time has come for the big one. The "companies" all agree, we must get our bomb factories up to full capaciity now, or we risk having the the entire world economy falling back into a worse recession.
French President Nicholas Sarkozy: I think it is safe to say that we are all in agreement here....but what about the protestors? Won't they be demanding answers...and a good reason for another large-scale war? What about the cost - All of us are insolvent...how can we justify another couple trillon in spending on a major and premptive military action in the middle east?
Sec. Clinton: (In her witch Kackle) HAHAHAHA The protestors and public outrage is the easiest problem to hande. All we have to do is set off a couple small germ bombs in the subway of Paris, New York, London, Barcelona, Berlin, or a combination of a couple locations and the people will have blood dripping from their fangs by nightfall, demanding a full-scale retaliation. We can pin this on BOTH the Iranians and the Syrians at the same time. It is will be plenty believable, we have been demonizing those people and molding them into boogeymen for 30 years now....This was all done in expectation that one day we would need to create just such an emergency...in case we ever found ourselves in the financial situation we are in today.
And we have a GRAND plan and vision for how this will solve many of our problems...all at once.
Sarkozy...Go on....I am listening.
Sec Clinton. As you know, we have tens of millions of Americans who have nothing to do but sit on their fat asses and collect unemployment checks. We have tens of millions more getting fat off of food stamps. It doesn't look like we will ever be able to get the employment numbers up....and we KNOW that Europe is having the same problems. We see that you have all but lost control of your citizens...they are even demanding that the banks be held accountable!! Imagine that playing out to it's logical conclusion!!! So, we need to make this war so big that we can draft just about every able-bodied person that is poor or that is sucking gov't money (that could be going to corporations), give them an hour or two to learn how to use a weapon and send them on their way....hell, I bet we could wipe half of the people off of the unemployment roles in 6 months..IMAGINE the possibilities.
We will more than likely have to pump up the drug supply though....but our dear friends at the pharmecutical companies assure me that they can meet the demand. We will need to start dosing the water with lithium salts of some other drug that will help us mentally castrate the populous, so that they can never figure out what we are really up to. T.V. and the media do a pretty good job at this...but for something this big and audacious, we will need a little extra something to help us reach our goals. These are indeed trying times we are living in...and desperate times call for desperate action.
Sarkozy...Well, I have to hand it to you....I am intrigued...I think that with a little fine tuning...we can make this work and we can all rest a little easier.
Bernank. And don't worry about the war funding. Between the ECB and the Fed...we have thousands of printing presses....we promise that we will keep you all WELL stocked with fresh fiat....you just need to supply the human capital for this little experiment.
Sec Clinton...well then...it looks like we are all in agreement.....The Companies will be very pleases.....
Lets all take a vote...all in favor of starting phase one of "operation kill the poor" say "I".......(Thunderous "I" overheard....)
END OF TAPE
And that folks is how the war is going to start....
hahaha
3 "junks"....that is it...
Come on you cocksuckers....you got gotta give me a liitle more than that....
Just do me one small, yet very important favor...while you are sucking...please be gentle...my balls are as fragile as eggs.
Either that...or you can lighten up a bit and realize that something as ridiculous as U.S. and U.N forgein policy deserves a story as ridiculous as this
And...I would like to say thank you to Mr. Jello Biafra...(if you know...then you know)
3 words - THE VELA INCIDENT
Completely OT, but I am loving the active ads in the corner. Iranian Personals and Persian singles? Not only do I get the best news on earth here at ZH but I also get the downlow on how to hook up with my Persian princess?
How can we go wrong?
Just as with Iraq the real reasons are unknown to most Americans:
War on Iraq how much did that cost--and WHY?
Iraq
Libya
Next will be Pakistan
The US went into Iraq because Saddam moved from the petrodollar to the petroeuro and that pissed off the American banking cartel. Has nothing to do with Israel Laddie.
Yeah, the Kurds gave a big sigh of relief.
If war means cock-posturing, saber-rattling, hollow ultimatums, empty sanctions and constant fly-overs then yes, we're going to war.
10 bucks says the following take place over the next year: we start another war in the middle east, raise taxes, and default on our debt. any takers?
We can also open a sidepot on the gvmt pillaging 401k's and IRA's.
Hah, raise taxes in an election year...it is to laugh!
Did someone disobey direct orders?
http://memrieconomicblog.org/bin/content.cgi?news=4532
Last bank standing wins!
Once more. These banks do not have rothchilds controlled central banks.
Libya, Syria, North Korea, Cuba, Iran.
So they do not obey direct orders and yes they will suck capital out of the system.
this is like moody's downgrading somebody
What are we supposed to do? Rely on the housing industry? Nope, taking over countries and then selling it back to them is the best hope we have to push that 1.8% GDP growth into uh maybe 2.1%.
Bring it on. I'll gladly get my ass over there and fight against that asshole.
Iran is off-limits to the U.S. without immediate global war. So they (and their unwitting EU accomplices) chip away at the periphery with attempts to coup d'etat more of the satellite states in the region. Each chip shakes the rickety framework of global peace. This is damn reckless and nothing else.