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All parties will support the Finance Bill to legalise the IMF/EU bailout
Agreed. It doesnt make a difference which party is ruling. Just imagine we could elect someone and we could achieve fundamental change in anything - it will never happen!
All parties are working for the globalist elite and thus on its way to a one world currency. They will force them under the rescue "umbrella" bailout package
This is better. I'm particularly proud of my latest creation. Art...in its highest form:
Nice work, Turd. I linked it over at www.Gold-Silver.US/Forum , and titled it "Jim Sinclair Passes the $1600 Gold Baton to Turd Ferguson"
I hope you don't fumble it!
All parties are working for the globalist elite...
They do what they're paid to do.
I wouldn't be so sure of that. We're in a time of turmoil right now and almost anything can happen. I don't see it as a done deal. Far from it.
Ireland is not Tunesia...
However, they better start checking their politicians luggage.
For pots o' gold, lucky charms, and whiskey.
Guerilla war is still in the generational memory of the Irish.
You'r right, its not Tunesia. In fact, it may be more violent.
these socialists are like cockroaches, good luck with getting them throw out.
Some guy said Who do you vote for? You don't, you get out the word that the demo-rethuglican shakespeare is bullshit, and needs to be ended.
Finance Bill will still pass. This will just lead to the total annihilation of the Greens. *rubs self all over with glee*
I was under the impression that the Labour and FG parties have already made clear that they will oppose the Bill? Have they changed their positions? Seems like a vote-loser to me, as public opposition seems to be running pretty high right now.
I am pretty sure that Labour have said that they will support the passage of the Bill.
Shows how much they really care about the 'Working Man' then.
Communists/Socialists care about nothing apart from their twisted and discredited political theories and their positions of power. I am amazed that the 'working man' still votes for, and donate his hard earned money to, Labour parties all over the world. Some people are just really, really stupid. Sadly there are a lot of stupid people in both Ireland and the UK. It is abundantly clear that the 'working man' just loves to be shit upon, in fact, he revels in it.
I know the day is coming when Jesus will return and give us true free market capitalism!
You do know that both parties are equally at fault for destroying the free market in this country, don't you?
Joy, another dumbshit partisan troll.
tmosley: most of these trolls come from the sewer so I think its time we step into the guttter to squash them. hahaha Seriously, It always makes me wonder how people have such allegiance to either of the parties cause bothe the Rs and Ds have allegiance to no one except themselves and their banker patrons.
Oh in that case you don't want to head over to BusinessInsider. Full of "Obama is the antichrist!!11eleventyone". Not that I don't think Obama is a moron, but partisan muppets who sit and accuse the "other side" (when it's so blatant - and as Carroll Quigley confirmed in "Tragedy & Hope" - both sides are controlled by the same group of people) get really, really tiring.
Just to clarify... if you think President Obama is a moron, how would you describe President Bush?
The last name there pretty much sums it up.
they are both complicit. one would be hard pressed to imagine a fantasy that so proved nader's assertion in 2000 that the two parties are much the same as the back to back (or belly to belly?) administrations that followed that assertion.
Obama's just a useful idiot. He'll do as he's told.
Bush? Oil executive, hiring an oil industry veteran as VP, and they invade Iraq within 2 years. But it DEFINITELY wasn't for oil. And "Kennyboy" and his fraud... nah, Bush CERTAINLY didn't know anything about that. And don't get me started on the bailouts.
A complicit fighter pilot with better grades than the Goracle and the guts to release them unlike the bamster.. How is that?
That was some funny shit!
(I didn't junk you)
Your next deep hypnosis session is Sunday at 7.00am
Let's not restrict that condemnation to the UK and Ireland. Here in the U.S., the dems regularly posture as the party of the working man yet regard actual contact with such people as the equivalent of kissing a sore ridden leper and actually make the working man's life much harder, on the whole. Yet, especially among certain subsets of older voters, there are hordes of fools who actually think the Obamas, Pelosis and Schumers of the world do nothing but work tirelessly for them.
"working man" could also be aptly called "the middle class" and if not the democrats then who exactly should a middle class person vote for? And while we are talking about discredited theories like communism, I would throw in the Chicago school's theories as discredited and opposed to middle class needs. It's failed anytime it's been implemented and always leads to the concentration of wealth and bust cycles. I'd like your thoughts. Please spare me the name calling. I'm here for honest debate not politics.
Nobody for president in 2012!
They need to add, "None of the above" to the ballot.
If "None of the above" wins, then no-one is sent for that seat and that electoral area will vote on bills through referendum. No bill can be passed until all referendum have been tallied.
Of course, with vote stuffing and disqualification the issue would be decided before anyone actually voted.
If "none of the above" is elected president/vice president then... we be fooked.
Using the slogans, "Nobody's Perfect" and "Nobody Cares."
Hello . I am nobody..vote for me!
ron paul. the most dangerous policies of the bush/obama administration would be substantially reversed (if he doesn't turn out to be a liar as well) as they are largely controlled by the president (foreign, national security, economic, law enforcement, military). ending crony capitalism and the endless bailout/endless war syndrome would bring the possibility of organic economic growth much closer (dear to the pocketbook and wallet of the impoverished middle class).
"the National parties and their presidential candidates, with the Eastern Establishment assiduously fostering the process behind the scenes, moved closer together and nearly met in the centre with almost identical candidates and platforms, although the process was concealed, as much as possible, by the revival of obsolescent and meaningless war cries and slogans" - Carroll Quigley, "Tragedy & Hope", pg 1247.
You're confused as to why the "we want to take away your entitlements" platform isn't a hit with the octagenarians?
While Fine Gael is offering to do whatever it takes to push it through by the end of next week!
EDIT: Wait, but what's this? The Fianna Fáil finance minister insists the bill can't be passed in a week? If that story's true (or if FF sticks to it whether it's true or not), then either the Greens are in for a second humiliating failure to end this government as soon as they promised to, or there will be an election before the Finance Bill is passed - several weeks of high suspense and market tension until the new government meekly passes the thing right at the beginning of its term.
Political circuses, bitchez!
They've agreed to support it in exchange for an early election. Mind you the Opposition Labour Party has tabled a confidence motion in the Government which is going to be a very tight vote.
Independents may not support it. The Greens, who have just left Government, may/may not support it. Fine Gael may support it.
In all reality however Ireland is in the middle of serious political uncertainty. One way or another though. A new Government will exist in 50 days.
They've agreed to support it in exchange for an early election.
So, selling out your country and consigning it to eternal penury in exchange for the minor political advantage to their party of getting an earlier grab at power is OK in their book? Jesus Christ! And to think that politicians wonder why they are universally held in contempt.
Sounds like republicans, oh wait, sounds like democrats, oh wait, sounds like republicans, oh wait, sounds like democrats, ad. infin.
Greens are in a no-win situation. They don't want to go down with the ship that is the current government, but won't endear themselves by pulling out of the government either.
what does a trillion dollars look like?
would love to see this as a zerohedge headline!
Here's a Youtube version - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBMGms17blE&NR=1
Nice visualization, but we'll never see it except in cartoons. The costs are prohibative. Just as we have, for instance, paper fractionalizing physical metal, so now is the day of digital entries fractionalizing physical paper...
...not to mention the cost of pallets.
I like to visualize it in terms of the speed of light. 5.9 Trillion miles = 1 Light Year.
1 Trillion miles = .17 light year.
Then US national debt in dollars is 2.79 times the age of the universe in days.
Big Bang, just ahead...
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