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Ireland In Talks For Bailout With EU, IMF And ECB

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From Reuters:

IRELAND SAID TO BE IN TALKS TO GET FUNDS FOR GOVERNMENT, BANKS

Also noted that negotiations are continuing and no decision has been reached yet, according to sources. European finance ministers are meeting in Brussels today at 5pm local time. EURUSD jumps 25 pips on the headline but nothing firm yet. After all, could merely be wishful thinking on behalf of the bankers-kleptocrat politician complex, but it appears Ireland may crack soon.

more as we get it.

 

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Tue, 11/16/2010 - 09:27 | 730283 Oh regional Indian
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Crack? It's going to be healed.

With a dose of IMF@#$#ing love! And an ECB death bear hug! And a world bank kiss of death.

C'mon st.patty, the Eyerish need you!

I remember the Economisty being full of the Irish Tiger stories, feels like yesterday.

Spreads are going to go from pips to pops!

ORI

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Tue, 11/16/2010 - 09:25 | 730287 gwar5
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The 24 hours is about up, they better talk fast.

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 09:29 | 730292 LongSoupLine
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Bernank...I mean "IMF" to the rescue...again.

Feel that backside penetration American middle-class?  That's your Fed in action again.

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 10:07 | 730423 IBelieveInMagic
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Hang together or hang separately.

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 09:30 | 730296 firstdivision
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So, this is why the EUR is going up?!?  Whacky world we are living in.

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 10:55 | 730685 snowball777
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1.3579....ummm...yeah.

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 09:30 | 730297 lead salad
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Irish Car Bombs all around!......basterds....

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 09:32 | 730303 the not so migh...
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You will borrow from us or you will die.

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 09:41 | 730320 TumblingDice
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...from kicking yourself in the head after missing such a great deal. These low rates came around only once in a cyclical collapse of society!

or

...is what I would have said if the system was starving for more debt. But here, now among friends, just...just fucking take the money. [takes out a wad of $100 bills out of pocket] Look at it. Oooooo...money. Politician like to spend, yes? Spending is nice, yes? Keeps politician in office, yes???

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 09:40 | 730317 bank guy in Brussels
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An Irish journalist in Brussels - Mary Ellen Synon, who is both very anti-EU and pro-British - has a recent article saying that the euro (now afflicting Ireland) was always a German plot to have a currency lower in value than a stand-alone Deutschmark would be, thus fueling German exports.

Article hints the Germans always knew it would blow up and then they could blame the peripheral states for their sloppy practices after it did.

What's funny is that you can find exactly the opposite conspiracy view on the internet, as for example Lyndon LaRouche saying that Germany was forced into the euro at gunpoint by France twenty years ago ... that Germany was threatened to agree to join the eventual euro, or else be blocked from re-unification, and be subjected to another 'war' from other european states.

The Mary Ellen Synon piece, saying that the euro was always a scam to prop up German exports, is here, on her 'Euroseptic' or '€uroseptic' column -

http://synonblog.dailymail.co.uk/2010/11/der-euro-as-ever-the-d-mark-by-...

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 10:30 | 730559 snowball777
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LaRouche is a douche with serious veracity issues; take anything he says with a Gibraltar of salt.

As for a "German Plot", BS...they export because they make quality product and those sour grapes from shite-engineering countries like France and Britain is laughable.

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 09:41 | 730318 LeBalance
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Please note in the emboldened line that the words "people" or "citizens" do not appear.  Since the government is but an extension of the Banks, we already know who is getting the "bail out."

But as we are all old hands at this (ex. Greece [those folks on the ground received $100,000 each, right?]) we know who gets the money and who receives the bill.

All in the name of Financial Stability.

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:06 | 732286 StychoKiller
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"I am Jack's total lack of surprise."

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 09:42 | 730322 viator
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Finland seen strongly opposing Ireland EU bailout

16 November 2010

"Finland is against putting pressure on Ireland to quickly apply for a European Union bailout, saying EU financial aid must be a last resort.

"Finland strongly opposes the German position that the mechanism should be used just to make the markets calm down," said one euro zone source familiar with Finland's position. "The mechanism wasn't created for that purpose."

Since decisions among finance ministers over activating the European Financial Stability Facility (EFSF), which Ireland may need to access, have to be taken unanimously, Finland's view counts as much as the other 15 members of the euro zone.

Finland's staunch opposition to pushing Dublin into asking for help is partly based on its belief that the rules must be strictly adhered to but also out of domestic political concerns - there is an election in Finland next year and there is popular opposition to more bailouts."

http://www.businessandfinance.ie/cat_news_detail.jsp?itemID=3203

"Luxembourg Prime Minister Jean Claude-Juncker, who chairs Tuesday's talks in Brussels, said Ireland was not even close to asking for a Greek-style bailout, which would involve tough austerity terms enforced by the European Commission and the IMF."

"The Irish coalition government has been reluctant to apply for assistance, partly because it faces a by-election it can ill afford to lose on November 25 and also because it says it wants to preserve its sovereignty."

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Euro-zone-seeks-way-out-of-rb-3843748163.h...

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 09:44 | 730327 THE DORK OF CORK
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If the two Brians stick the bank bad debt where it belongs - to the ECB then I may be able to forgive these chancers just a little.

This problem is almost solely the ECBs baby and their efforts to get the periphery Treasuries to shoulder these mutants needs to be stopped by the respective goverments.

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 10:32 | 730570 snowball777
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Awww man...the band's breaking up.

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 09:45 | 730330 morph366
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While Irish banks are fast losing their depositor base and there is a real question mark over solvency of the Irish government, there really is a simple "daisy chain" solution which is for the Irish government to have the ECB loan money to the Irish banks to buy Irish government bonds - after all there is a blanket guarantee on offer from the Irish government.

 

 

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 09:47 | 730335 grunk
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Go see Crystal Moore/Mona Lisa at B of A. She'll sign your loan docs before the 24 hour deadline.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1aGT-8WwTc&feature=player_embedded

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 09:52 | 730349 svendthrift
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Ireland will not be bailed out. The institutions that Ireland owes money to will be bailed out.

 

What will be the conditions applied on Ireland so that the usurious bastards can be bailed out? Higher taxes? The sale of state assets?

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 10:21 | 730500 reload
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The EU will push Ireland to bring its corporation tax into line with other member states. How long will the likes of Dell, Intell & Google etc stick around if that happens?

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 09:53 | 730358 Mercury
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So...Ireland hasn't found any uncashed checks for 100 million Euros under the bed yet?  What is plan B?

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 10:03 | 730404 Horatio Beanblower
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Many, many, many pints of Guinness.  Perhaps a Black Bush or three as well.

 

There may be no money in the banks; but there will always be Whiskey in the Jar - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TehFZ38kt6o

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 10:11 | 730407 knukles
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"The bailout will be finalized subsequent all EU governments agreeing upon the true color of Taupe without visual aids.
The French are the recalcitrant holdouts pressing for the term "sorta caulk like", contrasted with a German preference for "Ms. Merkel's upper thighs during winter months".  Apparently the Greeks delegates angrily left the negotiations screaming something about having better things to do with the creation of newly discovered sexual perversions than being compared to "abunch of drunken Irish football hooligans."

Knewt Holdontoyernutsacknpeckertite, the Dutch token mute spokesperson for the EU Something-Or-Other in Brussels, waving his hands about through an interpreter stated that negotiations were proceeding "Quite normally, happily."  And that the Greeks were expected to return after the "Moussaka selection plate had been refreshed."

The independent Icelandic observer was rumored to have told the Irish representative to tell the EU negotiators to "Go fuck yourselves." suggesting in that manner Ireland would actually realize a larger pool of funds at a lower interest rate under substantially easier terms.  When asked for verification, the Icelandic representative only replied; "Go fuck yourself."  Apparently, that phrase alone represents his complete English lexicon.

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 10:59 | 730710 LMAO
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When asked for verification, the Icelandic representative only replied; "Go fuck yourself." 

 

And rightfully so  ;0)

 

Here's to hoping that the people of Ísland continue their "Go fuck yourself" kind of attitude when confronted by the financial mobsters.

LMAO

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 10:36 | 730596 justinius1969
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Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

William Butler Yeats

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 10:40 | 730623 treemagnet
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the junkie doesn't need another hit, they need a new supplier.

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 10:58 | 730701 snowball777
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They need to stop sharing dirty needles first.

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 10:52 | 730670 Batty Koda
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I owe my sister some money, I can't pay her back coz I spent it all on crack. Who do I contact for my bailout?

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 10:57 | 730695 snowball777
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Vinnie and the Italian Businessmen.

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 11:10 | 730756 Batty Koda
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But won't I have to pay them back? I don't want to have to pay it back.

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 11:00 | 730702 LMAO
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