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Irish Bund Spreads Hit Lifetime High Of Over 500 bps

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The Irish-Bund spreads has just hit a lifetime high of over 500 bps, pushing above 502.75 last. Elsewhere, the EURUSD continues to trade over 1.40 despite the now inversely parabolic drubbing in gold. Then again, what can one expect when Cramer recommend buying it with both hands.

 

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Wed, 11/03/2010 - 11:36 | 695948 TheGreatPonzi
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Who cares. The ECB will buy the bonds.

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 11:51 | 696000 Jones79
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no they won't--that's why the spread is blowing out!

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 11:54 | 696009 jus_lite_reading
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As I stated on Monday, the ECB would buy them if they could but they have officially run out of resources.

Thus Greek 10yr at 10.99 and rising, Irish at 7.59 and rising. Default for the PIIGS may bring about the spark required to end the global financial system. But what do I know?

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 11:58 | 696026 TheGreatPonzi
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The ECB cannot run out of resources. If they have, they will simply print money, just like your old Bernie does.

As I've already said, this crisis won't reach its peak because of a default or a bankruptcy, but only because of inflation.

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:23 | 696113 Jean Valjean
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Bingo, therefore buy gold on this dip.

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:06 | 696055 sunstreaker
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Of course they will. Otherwise the ECB will be history. That would be historic. First central bank to abolish itself.

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:30 | 696140 jm
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The ECB won't be history.  The pork will be cut.

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 11:37 | 695953 scratch_and_sniff
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Bring on the pain! This has been the most absurd rally in history, every peice of fundamental common sense completely out the window for the promise of some wild liquidity pump, but the truth is i will miss these conditions when they are gone, because fuck knows whats next.

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:23 | 696105 Jean Valjean
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Rest assured, it will be interesting.  And at least it will be REAL.  Never fear.

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 11:39 | 695959 ruffian
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does anyone know why gold just tanked? ...thanks

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 11:40 | 695961 HelluvaEngineer
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Dunno.  The dollar just spiked though.  Maybe a bunch of stops got taken out?

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 11:49 | 695992 holdinmyown
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Most likely someone big got news that QE2 would disappoint.

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 11:56 | 696024 Bananamerican
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wasn't it Taylor's newsletter (yesterday) saying "sell AU till early next week"?

I've been expecting another spank the goldbugs moment myself.

The backstory? "Fiscally responsible Republicans to save the Nation, Fight the FED, Impose austerity etc etc" and les initials B.B. to "disappoint" with a smaller QE (initially)

 

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:29 | 696136 Non Passaran
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You never know...

I'm holding onto mine, counting that PIIGS will scare some folks into buying PMs.

 

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:25 | 696119 Jean Valjean
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Could it be the story that Rand Paul will be able to fillibuster the debt ceiling, therefore preventing Treasury borowing from increasing?

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:40 | 696174 bingaling
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I would hope so .But dont underestimate the lameducks who will probably raise that ceiling to infinity before he gets into office.

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 13:26 | 696313 trav7777
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you HONESTLY believe he can get 39 other Repugnicon Senators to go along with him????

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:23 | 696108 gookempucky
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Right on QQQQ--london close---nothing has changed--all is an illusion.

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 11:45 | 695973 Horatio Beanblower
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I think a butterfly may have just flapped his wings in the JPM building.

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 11:49 | 695989 breezer1
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i'm surprised its not down to 1200 with the next qe just hours away.

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 11:56 | 696019 HelluvaEngineer
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If it gets down to 1220, I'm backing up the truck.

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 11:40 | 695960 Sean7k
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If you haven't noticed- paper dump of all PM's just happened. No event to tie it to. Blew through resistance all the way down to1330. 

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 11:43 | 695967 ruffian
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so just a typical takedown then...I mean equities and dollar barely moved

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 11:49 | 695993 lsbumblebee
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So if this PM takedown is typical, meaning not unusual, how would you describe an unusual takedown?

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 11:58 | 696027 ruffian
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I dont...these verticle plunges in PM's occur periodically  with no corrosponding movement in related or inversely related mkts  eurodollar and equities barely moved therefore there is macro confirmation/ verification/reason for the movement in PM's.....this is typical for a paper takedown

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:06 | 696054 lsbumblebee
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So this particular periodic takedown just happened to occur on QE2 day?

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:13 | 696078 ruffian
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what better day could there be...scare longs out before a trillion in still warm digital credits...cmon bumbles...are you just playing devils ad. or are you serious?

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:18 | 696091 lsbumblebee
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I'm not arguing with you. I'm just trying to understand how you can say this is just your average ordinary old takedown in PM's and it has no significance, today of all days.

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:28 | 696133 ruffian
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just because they are typical does not degrade their significance....whenever the BB's feel threatened AND see an opportunity( moment of nervousness ahead of major news event) to scare longs out, this type of manipulation occurs. In fact many of these takedowns occur just beofre or during unemployment #'s ( as per testimony by london trader/whistleblower Mcguire) so indeed todays action is extremely"typical"

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:36 | 696163 lsbumblebee
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Okay. I'll agree that this is an unusually typical takedown and leave it at that.

 

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:41 | 696179 ruffian
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LOL.......all best bumbles.....

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 13:04 | 696249 lsbumblebee
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Thanks you too.

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:15 | 696083 flacon
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JPM has to cover it's shorts BEFORE the announcement. 

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 13:49 | 696368 Strider52
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I think the PPT doesn't *ever* want to see POG at $1400, so....TakeDown Biatchez...

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 13:49 | 696369 Strider52
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Duplicate

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 11:41 | 695962 Sudden Debt
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Strange that ZH doesn't mention the ECB speech where they just announced that the PIGGS will soon need to use the EU emergency funds.

 

It would have been a scoop :)

 

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 11:50 | 695994 traderjoe
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Link? I'm looking for it online...

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:01 | 696040 Spalding_Smailes
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Brutal ..

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:34 | 696156 traderjoe
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From Google Translate:

"Portugal spent Wednesday morning for 1 billion euro bills to the man"

Funny. Payin' to the Man...

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:03 | 696044 stumpper98
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Me toooo~!

thanks

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 13:01 | 696245 Zero Debt
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And Hong Kong launches its first local gold fund....

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/hong-kong-launches-gold-fund-2010-11-03

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 11:41 | 695963 The Axe
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No one cares....joke

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 11:43 | 695968 Turd Ferguson
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Obviously, Blythe decided to act early. The question is, what does this mean?

To me, the only reason for smashing gold now is this: The EE either knows or suspects that the QE2 announcement is going to be larger than anticipated and, therefore, PMs are going to rally sharply. So, crush the PMs now in order to cover shorts at lower prices before the blastoff.

Again, if anyone doubt the existence of the EE and their influence on today's action, simply look at a one-minute chart of todays' action. Violent one-minute downdrafts galore. Only the EE has the power to overwhelm the bid like that. They are clearly trying and succeeding in dropping price before the announcement. Again, why before? They are clearly afraid of getting their collective nuts and ovaries in a vise this afternoon.

I am very confident of a big price move UP later today.

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 11:44 | 695970 ruffian
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sorry my bad but what is EE?

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 11:52 | 696005 Turd Ferguson
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EE is my term for the bullion bank cartel of JPM, HSBC et al. It stands for "Evil Empire".

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:06 | 696056 ruffian
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thanks...BB I would have understood

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 11:47 | 695984 scratch_and_sniff
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Dont be so sure Turd, people could be scrambling to get out of risk in general because they dont think QE2 will be so big. Dont think in conspiracy when your money is on the line dude(even if its true), because it wont be much of a conspiracy when you blow up. Look at what just happened today, people are getting twitchy. But i hope we rally, regardless.

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:09 | 696063 Rainman
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......SEC just banned naked access trading......38% of trading volume go poof. 

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:26 | 696123 scratch_and_sniff
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Yeah they are going apeshit on the retail traders for some reason.

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:56 | 696229 skipjack
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What retail traders ?

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:28 | 696130 flacon
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That is exactly what I was thinking - and anticipated the move. It's perhaps their last time to cover their shorts. 

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:47 | 696192 ruffian
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I had some underwater hedges against my physical longs via GLL and got a chance to cover those at a small loss today thanks to blythe or whomever

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:51 | 696202 Turd Ferguson
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I still think I'm right on today.

Notice how gold has crept back up to 1338, $11 off its lows, as of 12:50.

Blythe is slowly, methodically covering shorts, too.

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 11:44 | 695971 carbonmutant
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Sounds like the Crying Game to me...

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 11:44 | 695972 Azannoth
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gold lower by 20$ in the last few minutes, is it now legal to 'know' what Bernanke will announce to the public in 15 mins ?

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 11:50 | 695974 plocequ1
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It doesnt matter. Lord Alex Jones says there will be an SDR currency. According to him, Things are going as planned, So bad news is good. Serfdom is just another couple of bailouts away. Does the NWO network carry American Idol?

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 11:56 | 696020 dark pools of soros
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bypassing the Amero straight to one world fiat currency??

one world currency was always gold/silver but why use snake oil to exchange to real currency when you can make snake oil THE currency

 

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:00 | 696033 plocequ1
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Todays show should be most outstanding. Gotta go. Hes on in two minutes. This is not an advertisment for lord Jones.

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 11:45 | 695975 swissinv
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off topic but look at the big London pm fix intervention on spot gold price:

http://www.kitco.com/charts/livegold.html

 

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:43 | 696185 bingaling
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wont last long - soon those dips will be flash interventions . 24 hours price will be back to par .

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 13:02 | 696247 swissinv
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fully agree -Iran will have its joy

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 11:47 | 695979 I am more equal...
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Distortions can only last long enough to frustrate those who recognize them.  That loud popping sound you will be hearing will be the rubber bans holding this thing together. 

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 11:50 | 695985 holdinmyown
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Wed, 11/03/2010 - 11:52 | 696002 Cult_of_Reason
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Gold is selling off today (down ~2%) -- suggesting someone knows that they Fed will disappoint (this someone could be US Treasury or some other central bank selling gold from the reserves -- front-running the Fed announcement).

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:01 | 696038 ruffian
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if that were the case then why barely any move in $ or equities.....does not compute

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:21 | 696101 Cult_of_Reason
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I am not sure as to why you think a central bank selling gold should influence USD or equities.

 

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:36 | 696164 ruffian
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given that cental banks are buyers of gold and the imf sold aggresively last month and gold kept rising and Iran just bought 15B $ worth and gold....what reasoning do you use that a central bank was selling? this is pure conjecture an  definitely a cult of reason as it goes against all evidence of cental banks interests in gold and the rapid absortion of all IMF supply with gold continuing to rise rapidly  

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:45 | 696189 bingaling
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Someone may be shorting paper - I believe physical will have demand no matter who shorts the paper . Fiat money is in the crosshairs .

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:05 | 696051 Azannoth
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If the FED did what every1 expects it to do, it would be lights out for the dollar and the ponzi, they know that the FED will die with the dollar they don't want that, ... yet

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:11 | 696071 swissinv
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intervention of the gold cartel - LN pm fix (you don't wanna announce QE II with sky rocking gold price)

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:32 | 696145 flacon
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Didn't the Rothschilds do that when they got wind the British won at Waterloo, but they started SELLING in the stock market before anyone else knew - then an avalance of SELLING by everybody, and then Rothschilds BOUGHT BACK EVERYTHING for pennies! 

 

 

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 13:11 | 696264 Azannoth
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Oh the ol'e Watterloo trick, those where the times

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 11:59 | 696010 Horatio Beanblower
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David McWilliams (who?) on Irish bonds and other tasty morsels...

 

MP3 - http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/TodayFM-Archive-For-Tuesday2.mp3

 

McWilliam's website - http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/

 

Brilliant  - Ireland's First Economics Festival - http://kilkenomics.com/

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 11:56 | 696018 jus_lite_reading
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In other news, a surprise guest was kicked off Dancing With the Whores. Please do NOT look at the man behind the curtain. Focus on the drama on the Jersey Shore.

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 11:59 | 696030 nutkicker
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freefall, bitchez.

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:00 | 696034 MGA_1
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It looks like $1T worked for about 6 months ?

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:01 | 696037 putbuyer
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And yet heavy buying on 2 days left, out of the money AAPL calls.

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:20 | 696096 firstdivision
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Would love to know who is selling all the calls.  Time to buy some AAPL puts then ;)

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:05 | 696043 hambone
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Rand Paul = Turd in Keynsian punch bowl!

TPTB really do fear the ability of one Rand Paul to filibuster the raise on the debt ceiling.  I truly believe he may do it...and I truly believe someone may be highly motivated to stop this man (Rand, hire very, very good security and make sure they work for you).

 

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:27 | 696126 John McCloy
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Word is he removed all hot tubs from his residence last night. Joking aside This can also be just the kind of catalyst to finally bring Ron Paul into the mainsteam for the 2012 election.For some odd reason Romney is considered the favorite know but that is because the elites have been trying to ram him down our throats in order to set up their old "Heads we win tails we lose outcome in 2012"

The people will not fall for it this time. Ron Paul will crush him in upcoming debates. What use would we have for another puppet creation that has all the checkmarks for the elitists:

Harvard bus grad

Worked for BCG & Bain

Opposed Iraq withdrawal

Father was a Governor

Top donors in 2008:

 

Retired $5,226,994 Securities & Investment $4,976,889 Real Estate $4,280,926 Lawyers/Law Firms $2,735,215 Misc Finance

$2,181,862                                                                        

1 Goldman Sachs $234,275 Citigroup Inc $178,200 Merrill Lynch $173,025 Morgan Stanley $170,350 Lehman Brothers $144,100 UBS AG $123,850 Bain Capital $123,150 Bain & Co

 

 

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Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:34 | 696154 Jean Valjean
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I added similar comment above, before reading yours.

So what would happen?  Would gold plunge and the dollar rise and we're all saved?  Or would that be the moment where we realize we are broke and debt and the dollar are worthless and gold flies and the barter economy begins?

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:08 | 696061 ruffian
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The $ has barely budged....smaller QE....Rand Paul putting an end to deficit spending would have pushed the $ higher but it cant get off its ass...neither of these explanations acct for move in PM's

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:15 | 696082 Iam_Silverman
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Angela Merkel receives package from Irish Bankers, film at 11.

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:23 | 696109 haller
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Clashes at Dublin student protest

Tens of thousands of students are protesting in Dublin today against increases in registration fees, with reports of some clashes with gardaí in the city centre.

About 2,000 students gathered on Merrion Row close to the Department of Finance.

Witnesses said a brick and eggs were thrown at the building and that a group of about 15 students made it inside. Gardaí later ejected them.

Up to 25,000 students from colleges across the State had joined today's march on Leinster House.

Taoiseach Brian Cowen today refused to be drawn on the possible reintroduction of third-level fees in next month’s budget.

Speaking in the Dáil, Mr Cowen said he was not in a position to divulge any discussions taking place in Cabinet on the various adjustments to be made. “We have to look at all of these issues,’’ he said.

Mr Cowen was challenged on the issue by Labour leader Eamon Gilmore in advance of today’s march.

Mr Gilmore said there was a commitment in the revised programme for government which said there would be no new scheme of student contribution for third-level education. He said that had been interpreted by the Green Party as meaning that fees would not be reintroduced by the backdoor by way of an increase in the student registration fee.

Last week, Union of Students in Ireland (USI) president Gary Redmond said a rise in the registration fee would have a major impact on students.

“I think we’re looking at a horrendous situation where parents and families are going to have to decide which, if any, of their children can go to college in future.”

Mr Redmond said attempts by the Government to raise the student services charges, more commonly known as the registration fee, would not achieve anticipated savings as they would be offset by those who were receiving a grant. "We simply don’t know where students are going to get this money from.”

As well as the registration fee, which currently stands at €1,500, Mr Redmond noted that individual colleges also charged an additional levy of between €150 and €350 for student centres and other facilities.

The Irish Times  understands that both student grants and increases in registration fees are likely in this year’s budget as the Department of Education attempts to find ways to reduce its spending.

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:33 | 696151 scratch_and_sniff
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“I think we’re looking at a horrendous situation where parents and families are going to have to decide which, if any, of their children can go to college in future.”

Good! 90% of the dumb fucks are only there studying medieval dance and Bod Dylans' sock collection anyway. Here's a better idea, instead of cutting places, cut the syllabus to shreads, i dont want to subsidising some halfwit to lounge for 4 years while he grows a set a balls.

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:24 | 696117 HarryWanger
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You think gold is getting hit now, just wait until 2:30. I hold lots of precious metals long term but am expecting a big sell off.

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:28 | 696125 Turd Ferguson
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Yes, Harry, but you may have already seen the majority of it. Don't look for gold to drop much below 1325 before the usual buyer(s) of size step in.

If Blythe had allowed gold to rally this morning up to 1385-90, I would be extremely nervous about what lies in store for us this afternoon. The fact that she chose to crush it before the announcement clearly means that the QE will be more significant than expected and that the PMs are going much higher.

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:35 | 696159 StockInsanity
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Article converted with Google so its rough: Irish, Portuguese and Greek government bonds get hit again Wednesday. "The days when a Member State to the European euro emergency fund will have to approach, come closer ', bond strategists warn. The fresh wave of selling in the bond market translates into substantially higher interest rates for affected countries. The Irish ten years as interest rates climbed Wednesday to a record level of 7.41 percent, an increase of 25 basis points. The Portuguese and Greek paper losses are less pronounced: the Portuguese long rates rising 3 basis points to 6.15 percent, Greek 5 basis points to 10.72 percent. By comparison, Germany, the eurozone country that investors will most credit worthy, should only 2.42 percent (-5 basis points) paid for the ten years to finance. Belgian ten years interest rate is 3.23 percent (-6 basis points We are still in the midst of crisis, the euro," said Alexandre De Groote, bond strategist Petercam. "Investors do not believe that all Greeks will meet their obligations. Ireland continues to concern about its economy and banks with  guided, and Portuguese budget is not even convincing. " Portugal spent Wednesday morning for 1 billion euro bills to the man, but the calculation should be offering higher interest rates than previous, similar auctions. The investor interest in the Portuguese issuances declined. "Angela Merkel's statements also make investors afraid," says De Groote. Merkel held last week at a European summit an impassioned plea to bondholders to share in the fold, and after another 2013 euros to a crisis In 2013 the two emergency funds run by Europe earlier this year put on the loom, off.   A relief: there is money ready, as a euro country really can not make do on the bond market ", explains the Petercam strategist out. "Greece can be financed through the emergency fund set up specifically for the country of 110 billion euros for the other euro countries is 440 billion euros of European funding has finished. " Ireland is the most severely, but the country has enough money to themselves until mid 2011 to make do. Maybe Portugal is the first that should appeal to fund aid? De Groote asks himself. "Yes, I think it increasingly likely that a euro country fund, the" European Financial Stability Facility (EFSF), will have to appeal. "   Gary Jenkins, bond strategist of British equity house Evolution Securities, is on the same line. Jenkins predicted earlier this year the euro crisis. "The euro leaders would do well to rescue a permanent mechanism for euro countries to consider" Jenkins finds. "But their timing is very unfortunate. Now it risks a self-fulfilling prophecy to be. If current trends persist, the bond investors will finally learn how it works EFSF. That is interesting. " The equity investors are currently not wake the European debt crisis," says De Groote. "All hope is the new stimulus plan from the Federal Reserve addressed. What if a country really EFSF will have to appeal? Well, it may well be that we have a negative market reaction. Investors have very short memories  

 

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 12:57 | 696232 ruffian
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look the golden SHAMWOW has come out....absorbing and sucking up all that gold that was just puked up

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 13:10 | 696263 bingaling
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EU knows ahead of the game what exactly QE2 is this is damage control to keep the Euro down so exports dont get completely crushed . The manipulation of gold before the announcement and this are good indications of 1 trillion plus for QE2 . If QE2 doesnt occur  I expect the BIG hand of the EU stepping in and gettings those numbers down .

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