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Irish Stress Test Results, And Full Irish Financial Measures Programme Report
And so the Irish bank sector is about to nationalized.
- IRISH REGULATOR SAYS FOUR BANKS NEED EU24 BLN MORE CAPITAL
- BANK OF IRELAND NEEDS TO RAISE 5.2B EUROS OF NEW CAPITAL
- IRISH LIFE NEEDS TO RAISE 4 BILLION EUROS, CENTRAL BANK SAYS
- EBS NEEDS TO RAISE EU1.5 BLN IN CAPITAL, REGULATOR SAYS
- ALLIED IRISH BANKS NEEDS TO RAISE EU13.3 BLN IN CAPITAL
More details:
- Irish Central Bank used BlackRock to conduct the loan portfolio test (basically the whole thing is a sham)
- Irish Central Bank sees €13.2 billion potential capital loss from deleveraging
- Irish stress tests see 10.5% core tier 1 ratio in base case; see 6% core tier 1 ratio in adverse case
- Irish Central Bank says each bank to have loan deposit ratio of 122.5% by 2013
- Irish Central Bank says banks have to deleverage EUR72.6bln by 2013
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Bullish news
You only need to know 2 things:
(1) Just BTFD.
(2) If there is no FD, then it was all priced in.
(3) BTFS Today's spike is tomorrows dip
I'm waiting for the run.
is it snowing over there or something?
An Irishman abroad tells it like it is
+1 blarney stone kiss
Absolutely, fucking brilliant.
As the memorable Stan Lee would say, " 'nuff said."
Is that a run on the banks.
AT least the Irish have the balls to tell the bond holders, Fuck You. Something Americans lacks, Balls and Knowledge.
Americans only understand what the news media tells them. Bullshit Noise. I live in a stupid society.
This pretty much guarantees PM's move upward. Did anybody notice how much money Bloomberg reported that we gave to China and Foreign banks. Go Bloomberg. They also pointed out that Lloyd Blankfein lied under oath about the window borrowings. Blankfein said they were there once. Not True. Perjury??? Yup !!!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/mar/27/dutch-bankers-bonuses-axe...
The Dutch scored a small victory with ING Bank, centering a campaign around Twitter, threatening to withdraw their money unless they axed the banker bonuses... it worked. Not bad... where's the fortitude of the American people?
Fortitude and American no longer belong in the same sentence.
It's the only way anything will get done. The lawmakers in the US have proven to be all equally worthless. The only thing they fear is a run on the banks. Of course, in the new totalitarian America, the organizers of such an act would be branded domestic terrorists and the goon squad would come and burn them alive in their own homes. Never mind the fact the bankers used the exact same tactic (threatening to remove billions, trillions) if the government didn't release bailout money. You can commit such acts when you're a suicide banker.
Apparently congress has decided that the word "perjury" may not be used to describe The Bernank, Blankfein, or any other bankster. Instead, please use the newspeak words "partial information," as in "Partial Information = Truth." Remember; if Mr. O'Brien says that 2 + 2 = 5, then it equals 5 damnit! Now Mr. Winston Smith, don't step out of line again or else you may be called before congress to testify about your blashphemous, terrorist behaviour. Say hello to Meredith Whitney for me while you're there...
Ignorance is Strength
Hopefully the Irish are wearing diapers today.
They are prepared for the runs ;)
...in your trousers?
well, let me buy a bushel of euros on this "good" news.
Not to worry. TEPCO says groundwater in Fukushima has 10,000 times legal limit of radiation. Ireland can sell whiskey to Japan.
(and if TEPCO says it's 10,000x it's probably 1 million x)
Radioactivity 10,000 times the limit found from groundwater: TEPCO
When NHK goes quiet on reporting it (as they have today), and the video of the site stops, you can bet some really bad shit is developing there.
I guess we'll see what the DAX does this afternoon.
US markets don't look too happy.
Wow...AAPL in another bloodbath today. Down almost $1, and probably only solvent for another 6 months. People continue to dump these shitty tech stocks realizing they are living on borrowed time.
Meanwhile, silver and gold doing nicely as people continue to realize what true wealth is...
You can go to yahoo finance and pull your own dumb little chart in Apple, like Robot does to get an idea of what blood on the streets looks like in graph form.
AAPL down less than 0.5% is a bloodbath?
According to Robo, "Silver getting slaughtered" when it was down .2% yesterday in interday trading. Slaughter and bloodbath are just common nomenclature at this point.
Buy the Fucking Dip, as I am going to dip my balls in it - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR1hI_Ikuv8
Well said Doctor.
24 Billion EU is a drop in the bucket. JCT....open the spigot....
Approximately 15% of Irish GDP.
Billions, trillions of 'money' being thrown around these days. Those numbers have definitely lost their meaning.
Irish Central Bank says banks have to deleverage EUR72.6bln by 2013
Wouldn't want to own Irish real estate in any form with that statement.
What it gives you an idea of is just how rich a bunch of Irish property developers got on the back of this lunacy....
True but I suspect most of those developers reinvested all their earnings for even more homes and projects.
Not to me they haven't, not since I found out that even spending £1 miilion pounds a day every day since the birth of Christ (i.e. 2011 years!), I would still not have spent £1 trillion pounds.
DavidC
Good one!
Approximately 15% of Irish GDP.
Insanity. The Irish people are absolutely out of their minds if they consent to this (aka, not "Go Iceland").
Let the banks go under. Of course that may start the "contation" the bankers fear so much.
Good I say. It's coming at some point anyway.
do you remember when jerry the king lawler slapped andy kaufman on the david letterman show? ha ha ha ......
Maybe they can borrower the bearded eggplant's printing press?
PigMen will be profiting from this event, as they are always pre-positioned properly by taking advantage of inside information provided courtesy of Brian Sack.
Heh, any wonder why Sotheby's is skying today?
More fancy artwork to be purchased, in order to impress the Ukranian escorts who will be arriving to The Hamptons in a few weeks....
Who would have figured that the biggest country bank debt bust in history would have created a bull market in fine art?
I flagged you as junk because only a loser would try to impress an escort.
HelluvaEngineer for the win! That is the best comment of the day by far. Dust off the "Fuck your couch, Bernanke!" t shirts, you win comment of the day!
Yes you are correct.
Ukranian escorts have a visceral penchant for Gustav Klimt and the likes.
They can identify an artist based on just several brush strokes and all the financial services employees are just willy dilly to impress them. That must be the reason for the strong bid under BID.
Your analyses is second to none.
Tyler can we please have an ignore button?
+++
mouse scroll wheel works well enough
Not well enough to block momo charts. Feels like yahoo forums *cringe*
Derp
They should just access the NATO reserve (aka frbny) discount window.
Don't worry, expectations were for 25 Billion Euros
EUR/USD unch. Incredible...
Race to the bottom. Dollars just as shite as euros.
No, Dollars are worse.
This is a logical fallacy. Both are not viable means of exchange, if the fact that they are not actual stores of wealth is taken into account, which it should be.
Exactly. Which pattern of ink is better? Which is the superior grade of paper?
Which has the better portrait?
Tepco CEO failed stress test.
LOOOL
Sorry, this is a little bit OT, but worthwhile reading:
http://www.americanbanker.com/issues/176_62/bank-pay-1035218-1.html?ET=a...
All Through the Crisis, Average Bank Pay Grew at Pre-Downturn ClipAmerican Banker | Thursday, March 31, 2011
By Jeff Horwitz
Print Email Reprints FeedbackThe past few years have been very rewarding for bank employees.
OK, maybe not the government rescues, stagnant loan books, layoffs and litigation. But none of these disasters hurt pay at banks.
A review of call reports filed with the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., compiled by BankRegData.com, shows that average compensation in the last few years rose — and at the same rate as it did before the crisis. Employees of the largest banks realized the largest gains. The increases significantly outstripped inflation and can't be attributed solely to shifts in pay schemes or recovering profitability. Banking in general shielded pay from its cost-cutting ax.
Because the gains are not restricted solely to banks' highest earners, the issue may be less politically fraught than CEO compensation packages or trader bonuses. But the trajectory of pay is nonetheless remarkable given the broader industry turmoil that accompanied it.
"Companies set up internal compensation structures in part to protect themselves and employees from the vagaries of the labor market, so it's not unusual that compensation wouldn't track the market perfectly," said Peter Capelli, director of Wharton Business School's Center for Human Resources. "But it's sort of strange that after the worst crisis in modern times, you see wages rising."
The clear trend, in both nominal and absolute terms, is up: Over the last eight years, average compensation for a full-time bank employee has risen 35% to $83,050, twice the rate of inflation. In 2003, the banking industry's 1.3 million full-time employees took home $78.3 billion. In 2010, it's 2.1 million employees took home $168.1 billion...
This is more evidence of the real forces driving corporate compensation and bonuses: The more fraud you can stomach and facillitate, the more money you earn.
Please note that this theorem is also entirely consistent with the conventional wisdom that the more profits you can earn for your company, the more deserving you are of increased compensation.
I admit that this construct falls apart in an atmosphere of legal enforcement, but it is nevertheless sound when applied to the real world.
hands up who thinks this will be it capital wise....
So give it to them. Nothing changes.
Nationalize and then what? They are still short capital to support debt that can never be repaid, no? Just like the rest of the west. Debt jubilee... or World War. Only one of these two are realistic.
They were eager to jump on libya....
Yup... everyone will be picking dance partners for the next 6-12 months. It's been coming for a long time... pumping up the housing market bought some time to establish a better position around the oil.
World War sooner or later...
And those are the stressless-test 'optimistic' numbers? Ugh!
Didn't they have a printing press at their disposal to print at will?
What happend?
Can't the machine print fast enough?
Does it need a overdrive powerchip?
Need for Speed?
INSTALL SOME NOX IN IT YOU FOOLS!!
It's all fun and games until noone pays debt back
Fed bails out EU as payment for NATO taking the lead on Libya?
I suspect all these Fed discount windows and currency swaps to other CBs are contingent upon their respective nations helping prop up the American empire.
Again, I predict QE3 will be Fed buying sovereign debt - Irish, Greek, JGBs etc and our domestic sovereigns - local and state munis. Just imagine what will happen when 10 year Treasury yield returns to more normalized historical average of 6% (currently 3.5%). What if we see inflation like the '80s, where the 10 year averaged about 10%. Wonder what Irish, Greeks, Montgomery County and Illinois would have to pay to roll debt then? Earlier this week http://bit.ly/gEqN0D
Not a chance.
Jamie Dimon & Blankfein's successors already have their sites set on the juicy business of 'financing' local units of governments. They will own the joints (literally own the bridges and water treatment plants).
Their best customers will be the subprime ones.
It's a very disquieting thought to consider banksters in charge of my drinking water quality. But I'm sure your'e correct that they do have a plot, I mean plan, to continue screwing people for profit.
I'm just basing my call on the fact that the Bernank told Congress that the Fed would not bail state and local units of government out, and then Jamie Dimon was spotted stealthily speaking of juicy defaults to come, as of yesterday.
February 25, 2010
“We’re not going to monetize the debt,” Mr. Bernanke declared flatly...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/feb/25/bernanke-delivers-warning-on-us-debt/
Time to PRINT....use the cloud!!
Nice one!
Ignore button. LOL. Luv it. Hmmm. Not a bad idea.
The ALL Mighty Printing Presssssssss! Nothing Else Matters!
What printing press? They've just got some chimpanzees pressing zero keys on computers - easy and the wages are low.
DavidC
I heard the Vatican is loaning at 2.5%.
... and in good faith!
who picks up the tab for this?
pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
That's easy... You do!
i guess ultimately..but which agency writes the check to the banks?
SPX
Updated channels.
http://www.zerohedge.com/forum/99er-charts-0
Never Ever Forget The Swaps.
It is the swaps that drag down German and French banks if these Irish banks default.
It is astonishing to me that Ireland is not informing the EU players that "bailout" will consist of **grants**. Not loans. **Grants**.
"If you want your banks to avoid the problems of their swaps blowing up due to our banks defaulting, then let's retire the debt on which the swaps apply. Yes, retire it. Pay it off. Not with a loan. With money you will GIVE us. Tomorrow."
And the Ponzi scheme goes ON! BTFD.
Now, to go back to watching porn and buying S&P Futures.
Blackrock: The Colossus of Wall Street
Wonder when Blackrock will offer a new ETF for Irish Banking -
I wonder when Blackrock will offer a new ETF for Chechnian prostitutes.
Something deeply ironic about the early innovator in MBS now crowned the next king of wall
more irony
The parent of BlackRock is BlackStone. The 'Black Stone' happens to be the famed Muslim relic located in Mecca ( http://sakina.wikidot.com/the-black-stone )
Timmmmberrrrrrr!!!!!
Woooolf!!!!!!
When is the 'shove it up your ass' mystery rally today?
I have some errands to run and don't want to miss it. My guess is roundabout 1:30 pm EST.
As soon as oil hits $107.
Everything is going to be fine....just fine....go back to sleep now. Shhhhh...go back to sleep.....
Real number should be 75 billion euros.
There's an article at BBC that talks about how Ireland is literally selling its country out in the process to be deemed 'worthy' to get away with these results by EU.
Irish politicians literally just betrayed their own people.
The Irish politicians got their MBA's (Master of Betrayal Arts) from U.S. CONgress; the finest school of Shophists and equivicators in the world.
Whores to the IMF pimp.
75.888 vs 1.420
$2 bucks = 1 € next week?
T'was top, look at the reversal. Lets see if it breaks thru 1.4172
let's hope not...
I've got a citytrip for 10 days lined out to new york at the end of this month with the family and I still need to buy dollars...
I thought an Irish Stress Test was a cocktail.
I thought it was a dry county.
One part Bushmills, two parts Jameson, purple koolaid from Jonestown to mix, and a shaker of formaldehyde from the jarred Oliver Cromwell's brain (a gift from the QofE) they have in the back store room.
If you can down two without puking you win a set of uilleann pipes.
Sounds more like something from the Urban Dictionary .
What if you announce a set of Bank Stress Test results & nothing happens? - EUR/USD not budging an inch...
Silly banks.
If the Banks own the Government owns the Banks, the Government = the Banks.
Yep but only the government owning the banks is publically, officially and the rest acknowledged. That makes the government the weakest link.
Your indentured servitude must appear to be voluntary and legitimate.
Wait: ECB rescues Irish banks = more printing = rising Euro = rising rates. Something is wrong with the equasion. Well, the USD takes the other side.
wait its not friday 3:59 PM
Ireland declares the Euro illegal tender. Decides to marry the Iceland telemark.
Its going to be schuss all the way to the bottom. All bets are off as the Iceland volcano counts down for imminent launch. Not to be outdone by Japan's tsunami, Iceland has decided to HAARP a volcano erection/eruption of century breaking magnitude. The black and white minstrels have pre-warned their theater audiences in Piccadilly, London that they will wear all-black like the NZ rugby team, volcano emissions oblige.
I love these monday morning quarterbacking reports where everything is unwound in a mega-dump of statistics that tells you all the good-bad news and the problem solving restructuring necessary. Pity these guys never wrote these same reports before the event. Then, it was : we can't go wrong we are on a victory surge...let her rip! Well, well...
It's all fucked - the only ones who don't know it yet are the Schmucks.
Even Kramer has realised the error of his ways (although he tries to convince us he knew all along)
Talking heads are falling off and rolling away on the floor....
As of today the "Plunge Protection Team" will now be known as the "New High Protection Team" as any reduction in the wealth effect is unacceptable
I'm taking side bets that the market closes up 8 SPX handles and 80 DOW points.
Takers? No? Pussies.
You can already see it setting up for a 15 minute hijacking up 6 handles for no fucking reason.
The REITs are up anyway. As usual, they have no exposure to the EU, Japan, or literally anything at all. They just go up.
Did does banks pass the previous stress test ?
I'm really surprised by the absolute calm in the FX and stock markets. Yet another "priced in" event I guess
They always pass. Move along.
Both EUR/USD and EUR/GBP at daily and weekly resistance,it will be very interesting to see how they perform over the next couple of weeks,but up until now, the Euro has totally ignored any bad news regarding the PIIGS.
Both EUR/USD and EUR/GBP at daily and weekly resistance,it will be very interesting to see how they perform over the next couple of weeks,but up until now, the Euro has totally ignored any bad news regarding the PIIGS.
Soooooo...no news? Markets show no movement.
(although an opposition member is now dissing the stress tests)
Has anyone pointed out to the witless bankers that most stress tests are based on historical events (911, Suez crisis, 2008 credit crunch etc.)
What are the chances the 'next' crisis will be even similar to any of these?
This is where the bankers are clowns and the politicians are clueless. The hedge funds produce the VaR number and they think they're covered. The reality is that the only accurate probability is the next crisis will be improbable.
Someone should tell them about Black Swans and why the morons cannot 'mathematically predict' future crises.
Who knew, got scared for a minute: Irish Central Bank says no SR Bond Impairments assumed. Out of kindness will give tha banks time to raise private capital.
Anyone know whether these stress tests take into account the subsequent delinquencies if interest rates were to rise from current historically low levels?
Markets are....POSITIVE!
WHEEEE, I knew they could do it. Yippee. Thank you, again, for fucking over my kids future!
God bless you, Bernak. You are one misunderstood mother fucker, I'm sure.
And, of course the price of Earl is now irrelevant $117/$106.50.
Fed Speak... Gotta Know The Enemy
http://apeakunderthehood.blogspot.com/2011/03/fed-speak-gotta-know-your-...
Enjoy hedgers
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bahaha!
Should run on the bankster channel 24 hours a day.
If you think this is notable news then you aren't paying attention. A 9.0 earthquake impacting one the largest world economies, a near-Chernobyl nuclear disaster, Middle East turmoil and the markets are humming along smoothly. Do you think the market at large gives a crap that we have yet another data point supporting Ireland is a failed state? Think again.
Asides from the stress tests likely being way too optimistic, they aren't forcing the banks to manage their liabilities better. Capital is one answer, but more longer term debt is also helpful. Its a drag on earnings as you pay more, but you are not at the mercy of having to roll over your debt in times of crisis. Why not force banks to raise more long term debt and rely less on short term financing? It makes a huge difference.
Oh wait, maybe because governments all fall into the same trap! We have some of the lowest rates in history, but we insist on funding a disproportionate amount of our debt inside of 3 years because its oh so cheap. That need to constantly refinance will bite us in the *ss! Even if Ben continues to buy most the debt anyways.
I think that what’s ahead is default on the bankers’ Ponzi schemes. The bankers’ flurry of paper –“ “Sorry, you can’t understand all these technicalities but you owe us this” – will be received with oaths of “Take your papers and go, we’re not going to pay another penny.”
Ponzi schemes don’t last forever. Reaction has been slow in coming because the bankers control the media and the politicians, but increasingly, people are waking up.
IMO, the bankers can’t continue a Ponzi scheme that requires the middle classes to give up all their value and hopes and dreams, to a scam. Already, the Irish are saying, “Don’t pay the bankers.” And the German voters are saying,” You’re using our tax money and production to pay, not Greece, but the bankers. No more!”
It gets to an extreme where the two classes - the class of public opinion and its accompanying politics and the class of self-described too-big-to-fail bankers - clash over the excesses of the central banks. It's happening now in Ireland and the German elections.
To me, the most critical factor in this whole dilemma is the value that has been created by producers and by workers, i.e., the value in the property they own and save and utilize, in their lives and families, in their accomplishments... The bankers cannot continue to cheat and print and shuffle paper unless this value is used to pay the servicing of these Ponzi schemes. One of the characteristics of a Ponzi is that it collapses -- it is not perpetual motion that goes on forever and ever. All Ponzis in history have collapsed because they begin to eat the participants.
And the more force the swindlers use to enforce their Ponzis, the more they lose the support of the body of the people… and the opposition ratchets up. When a man is hit, he wants to hit back; and the more he’s pounded, the more he wants to pound back. That’s a natural reaction.
We’re now seeing it in the ME revolutions; people demonstrate peacefully, the dictator picks up the ringleaders and puts them in jail; the people say the dictator must go, and then he shoots the people with water cannons and rubber bullets…and then real bullets – and the crowd swells to a fever pitch, and the power of the people forces the despot to leave.
IOW, if the bankers turn the army against the American people, they have an American Revolution on their hands.
You know, I agree with almost everything in your post, except the last line. There will be no American revolution. People are drug-addled, dumbed-down, force-fed, dependent upon food stamps and SS payments.
If any American stands up, he/she will be shot. Americans have to do what the bankers have done: CHEAT, LIE, STEAL, with both hands, from the oppressors.
After all, it is the American way.
Irish mortgages 90 or more days behind 5.7%
Irish unemployment rate 14.7%
Those numbers are incompatible with the US experience. Then we have the Irish government removing, reducing various subsidies, benefits and employment as part of austerity plan to reach primary surplus by 2014.
I don't think they have seen the half of it as far as home mortgage defaults and bank writedowns go.
Americans have their fucking head in the sand watching reruns of Jersey Shore and American Idol, all the while listening to Obama feed them bullshit on their Ipads. When financial crisis round 2 comes, perhaps people in this country might wake up.
* IRISH REGULATOR SAYS FOUR BANKS NEED EU24 BLN MORE CAPITAL
So sick of this crap
"...but the interest bill [i.e. interest on the previous massive bailoutz (one of them anyway), which they PROMISED to be the VERY LAST] in effect is an additional 1.7 billion euros, about. I can understand why taxpayers are outraged at having this additional interest to take. But you have to look at the fact that as a state we are already borrowing 19 billion [euros] more than we are spending on ourselves. So put the figure in that context, it is a manageable figure. ..." - Irish Finance Minister Brian Lenihan, Oct 1 2010
These banker crims and their pets in the legislatures will never stop - not voluntarily.
There is always another fucked-up excuse ... always another promise ... that this is, "weely, WEELY da last time" ... the last bailout ... evah! ... WEELY! ... I W E E L Y MEANS IT ... DIS TIME!
The last banker hand rummaging in your pocket, and gnashing your dick.
By the same people who have much, much more than enough, and more than they will ever need, or be able to reasonably spend.
This is not about making them richer, they don't need it.
Nope.
This is about making you POORER.