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Israel Knesset Member Declares "We Are Preparing For War"

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In an interview by Likud Knesset Member Danny Danon, speaking with WND senior reporter Aaron Klein, who hosts an investigative program on New York's WABC 770 AM Radio, the Israeli said that "Israel is preparing for a time of war...We are ready for all scenarios, and we are able to defend our civilian population. I cannot tell you how long we can wait more. But we prefer to wait and see if the international bodies are acting, or [whether] it will be only the burden of Israel, like it was in the early '80s, when the great leader, Menachem Begin, [made] the great decision to bomb the nuclear reactor in Iraq." He concluded: "We don't want this to be a war of Jews against Muslims. It should be a war of Western civilization [against] Iran." Good luck explaining that to 1.5 billion Muslims around the world.

From 77WABC Radio, specifically WND's Jerusalem Bureau:

While Israel is hoping for a peaceful resolution to Iran's nuclear ambitions, the Jewish state is also preparing for "a time of war," declared a Knesset member of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's ruling Likud party.

"We are prepared for all risks," said Likud Knesset Member Danny Danon. "And I think our enemies should know that even though we are speaking of peace, we are getting ready for a time of war, as well."

Danon, the deputy speaker of Israel's parliament, was speaking in a radio interview with WND senior reporter Aaron Klein, who hosts an investigative program on New York's WABC 770 AM Radio.

Danon hinted that Israel may take action if the world does not stop the Iranian nuclear threat, recalling Israel's lone strike on Iraq's nuclear reactor in 1981.

Stated Danon: "We are ready for all scenarios, and we are able to defend our civilian population. I cannot tell you how long we can wait more. But we prefer to wait and see if the international bodies are acting, or [whether] it will be only the burden of Israel, like it was in the early '80s, when the great leader, Menachem Begin, [made] the great decision to bomb the nuclear reactor in Iraq."

Despite his assertion that Jerusalem is preparing to act alone, Danon stressed that Iran is an international concern. He called on the Western world to "take action" against Iran's suspected illicit nuclear program.

"I think we have to take action," he said. "It's about time to take action. It should be the international world and not only Israel. And I expect the administration in the White House to wake up as soon as possible."

Danon said he is concerned the international community has not been forceful enough in its policies toward Iran.

"What we see today is that the Russians, the Americans, the Europeans all say they are worried about Iran becoming nuclear, but in fact Iran is working full ahead, and it's only a matter of months or a year before they will be reaching the point of no return," he said.

Danon stated that any future military confrontation against Iran "should be an international effort."

"We don't want this to be a war of Jews against Muslims. It should be a war of Western civilization [against] Iran," he said.

"The threat of Iran becoming nuclear is a threat for the people who live in the U.S., Europe and Israel." he said. "No one can guarantee that Iran will use its power only against Israel."

And with that, we look forward to another stock meltup tomorrow.

The full interview can be heard after the jump.



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Sun, 08/22/2010 - 22:00 | 536728 daneskold
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War, bitchez

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 05:41 | 537193 Sudden Debt
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Obama will wait until the first nuclear bomb explodes in New York.

After that, he'll decided that every America should excuse them self to Iran and offer 60square miles at the centre of Washington for Iranians to build a peaceful army base to show they mean well.

And as a second peace offering he will allow all Iranian men in America the option of first choice of American woman.


= sarcasm off =

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 06:58 | 537216 nmewn
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I'm glad this little trivial matter didn't interrupt Obama's tenth vacation this year...LOL.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 09:50 | 537393 jeff montanye
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he and w. have more in common as time goes by.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 12:02 | 537648 BobWatNorCal
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Disagree heartily.

Obama is making Bush look good.

Sun, 08/22/2010 - 22:03 | 536732 themosmitsos
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Bush shoulda done it. DEFINITION of bullshit chicken-hawk. Where was Cheney? Israel won't succeed. Escalation.

Rapture bitchez

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 00:07 | 536878 barkingbill
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why on earth should anyone "do it". isn't it time we moved on from the neoconservative pipedream of spending billions and losing soldiers and killing civilians just to eliminate israels tin pot enemies?

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 07:29 | 537227 aint no fortuna...
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Mon, 08/23/2010 - 07:45 | 537236 cbaba
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Mon, 08/23/2010 - 01:14 | 536954 Beard of Zeus
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Apocalypse bitchez.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 13:18 | 537850 A Nanny Moose
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Har Meggido Bitchez

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 12:27 | 537705 knukles
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He holdeth my head under deep water,
He stealeth my soul.

Sun, 08/22/2010 - 22:06 | 536741 Bearster
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Good luck explaining it to all the hair-shirted "pacifists" who believe in peace in our time, peace with honor.  Mr. Achmadinejad's sense of reason can be appealed to, and surely there are moderates in his regime.  I am sure they just want electrical power generation.  Pay no heed to their constant threats or their ballistic missile program.  Or their low-level proxy war against Israel via Hezbollah.  Or that Mr. Achmadinejad talks about the apocalypse the way geeks talk about the latest product from Apple...

Sun, 08/22/2010 - 22:25 | 536767 Hedge Jobs
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are you going to sign up for this war bearster since you feel so strongly about it? They could put you on the front line and you can post a comment from one of those ditches the Iranians dug a few weeks ago.

Sun, 08/22/2010 - 22:43 | 536786 zaknick
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Well put. F@ck the Zionist big noses.

Sun, 08/22/2010 - 23:00 | 536809 citationneeded
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I don't know what's with your nose fetish man. Bringing it up twice in one weekend now? I mean, Ahmadinejad has got one as big as any.

Sun, 08/22/2010 - 23:19 | 536825's picture

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad revealed to have Jewish past

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's vitriolic attacks on the Jewish world hide an astonishing secret, evidence uncovered by The Daily Telegraph shows.

Sun, 08/22/2010 - 23:25 | 536834 citationneeded
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I can link to random UK newspapers too!


Ahmadinejad has no Jewish roots

Rumours that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's family converted to Islam from Judaism are false. In fact, they are proud Shias

Sun, 08/22/2010 - 23:37 | 536842's picture

I can link to random UK newspapers too!


But you didn't link to a random UK newspaper. You linked to a Guardian article which does a pretty good job of disputing the Telegraph article I referenced.

Both articles would seem to have their merits and I could not say with confidence that one or the other can be called definitive. I thank you for sharing the information.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 03:26 | 537111 Village Idiot
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I think ol' Crockett may have really just been making the suggestion that there is a reason for Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's big nose.  "Disingenuous at best," isn't that one of your lines, Crockett?


on Sun, 08/22/2010 - 19:43


Well put. F@ck the Zionist big noses.

by citationneeded
on Sun, 08/22/2010 - 20:00

I don't know what's with your nose fetish man. Bringing it up twice in one weekend now? I mean, Ahmadinejad has got one as big as any.

on Sun, 08/22/2010 - 20:19

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad revealed to have Jewish past

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's vitriolic attacks on the Jewish world hide an astonishing secret, evidence uncovered by The Daily Telegraph shows.



Mon, 08/23/2010 - 09:37 | 537370's picture

What does disingenuousness have to do with it?

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 11:15 | 537533 Village Idiot
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I re-read the thread - you are right.  You were just pointing out a reason for the man having a big nose.  Question:  Why bother getting mixed up with a "nose" issue, Crockett?

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 11:30 | 537565's picture

My priorities begin with "anything for a laugh." Of course, I say that as an American of German Irish descent with a well proportioned proboscis.



Now listen to me, you smooth-talking son-of-a-bitch! Let me lay it on the line for you and your boss, whoever he is. Johnny Fontane will never get that movie! I don't care how many daigo guinea WOP greaseball gumbahs come out of the woodwork!




I'm German-Irish...




Well let me tell you something my Kraut Mick friend, I'm gonna make so much trouble for

you, you won't know what hit you!

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 10:36 | 537466 quintago
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yeah having a big nose has nothing to do with the persian empire being over-run by Muslims and their big noses. Perhaps they were over-run by the jews before that in a 300 type of takeover.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 06:45 | 537212 dkny
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Both articles would seem to have their merits and I could not say with confidence that one or the other can be called definitive.

Yes, but apparently once suspected for being a Jew there is no way back.
Kinda like being labeled a Communist by McCarthy, isn't it?

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 09:38 | 537373's picture

Why do you believe that such a conclusion is apparent?

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 17:19 | 538659 RichyRoo
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Because the first article make a lot of claims which the second article demolishes. Hence the first article is worthless, and yet someone claims they 'both have merit'. No they dont, the first makes claims which the second effectively refutes, leaving us back where we started, with no reason to belive he is Jewish.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 18:01 | 538772's picture

If nothing else, the first article tells us that Imadinnerjacket's family made some change in their identity which is interesting in and of itself and therefore has merit. Did you know this before you read the article? If you fear Imadinnerjacket don't you want as much background as possible on him?

Also, can you prove that everything in the first article is false and everything in the second is true? Just because one attempts to refute an argument does not mean that one has refuted an argument. If you really believe that than this refutation of your argument by me proves that you are wrong and without merit.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 22:15 | 539254 dkny
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Like I said: once suspected as a Jew, there is practically no way to remove the suspicion.
Alas, who am I kidding? You're the guy who believes that the Wehrmacht was packed full of pure, practicing Jews.

Tue, 08/24/2010 - 01:59 | 539485's picture

But you know for a fact that 150,000 jews and half-jews did serve in Hitler's army. Why do you so despise the truth?

Tue, 08/24/2010 - 08:06 | 539680 dkny
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And how many full/half/etc Italian and Germans served in the US Armed forces in WW2, conspiracy boy?

Tue, 08/24/2010 - 11:03 | 540237's picture

What makes you think there is a conspiracy? It's just a historic fact. Why does this fact make you so angry?

Tue, 08/24/2010 - 11:52 | 540427 dkny
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Amazing how you avoid commenting on the makeup of the US Armed forces in WW2. Keep up the charade that you're merely stating facts without any opinion behind them.

Tue, 08/24/2010 - 12:50 | 540604's picture

What's so amazing? Lots of German American and Italian Americans and Japanese Americans served in the US armed forces in WWII. It's a fact. Would you like confirmation that that water is wet, too?

Why does the fact that 150,000 jews and half jews served in Hitler's army enrage you to so much?

Tue, 08/24/2010 - 13:34 | 540765 dkny
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LOL @ "enrage".

Then I suppose that your brain is as devoid of opinion when you state that fact, just as when you state that water is wet. Or are you merely in the habit of dropping "facts" out of nowhere in certain kind of discussions and that one just happened to be next on the list, as opposed to, for example, "the sky is blue"?

Like I said: keep up the charade.

Tue, 08/24/2010 - 14:02 | 540869's picture



Please consider going back on your medication.

Tue, 08/24/2010 - 22:39 | 542148 dkny
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LOL @ you classic avoidance tactic.

I can't wait for your next context-free "fact" spewing session.

Tue, 08/24/2010 - 22:46 | 542159's picture



The context will be there for those wise enough to see it.

Wed, 08/25/2010 - 15:02 | 543801 dkny
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More empty words from the world greatest fact book.

Can't wait for the next time you turn tail when I push you about your "facts".

Wed, 08/25/2010 - 17:31 | 544342's picture




You can't even post a readable message. How damned dumb are you, anyway?

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 12:29 | 537707 knukles
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No Shiat!

Sun, 08/22/2010 - 22:51 | 536796 stev3e
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Sun, 08/22/2010 - 22:42 | 536783 drB
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How about Pakistan? They already have the bomb. Want war also there? Why only Iran? Why not, for example, North Korea? Ah, forgot...neither Pakistan nor North Korea have OIL!!!

Sun, 08/22/2010 - 23:08 | 536816 rawsienna
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Perhaps because Pakistan has not threatened to wipe another country off the face of the earth.  North Korea - well they may be isolated and impoverished but they are controlled by China .  

Sun, 08/22/2010 - 23:49 | 536850 AnonymousAnarchist
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Neither has Iran. Do you believe all nonsense spewed by the statist media? Let me guess... you also think the war in Iraq is over.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 01:55 | 536978 assembler
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You are the one deceived by your holocaust denying, revisionist friends.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 02:12 | 537010 AnonymousAnarchist
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Your comment posted before you were able to complete your point and explain to me how I have been deceived.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 06:22 | 537208 luigi
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Agreed, or that Iraq had WMD to start with... (maybe he was that sure because he saw Hallyburton's delivery bills?)

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 00:11 | 536886 DaveyJones
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Mon, 08/23/2010 - 01:20 | 536960 Calvin Jones an...
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If you remember, we used to talk a lot of smack to the Soviet Union, and they'd reply likewise, back in the day.  Besides, Israel already has 200 nukes.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 02:09 | 536997 johan404
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Iran never threatened to wipe out Israel. That was a hyped up mistranslation by the warhawk media. And yes, it's all about the oil and natural gas. Iran has the second largest natural gas reserves in the world and the third largest easily accessible oil reserves. Oh, and high oil prices would cause the dollar to rally, as petroleum is mostly traded in dollars, AKA the petrodollar.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 02:27 | 537079's picture

Actually the mistranslation was originally made by an Iranian translator who mistook the Iranian phrase "The Zionist regime will be wiped from the page of history," (simply meaning regime change) for the idiomatic English expression "wiped off the map," or "wiped of the face of the earth."

Western media has repeated the mistake without bothering to correct the translation.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 02:59 | 537097 RichardP
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Wouldn't wiped from the page of history imply that it will be as if they never existed?  How would one bring about such a state through regime change?  New regime is in power, but the old regime is still there, giving interviews to the news media.  Such a situation (giving interviews to the news media) hardly brings to mind a state of being as if they never existed.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 03:27 | 537115's picture

That's the thing about idiomatic speech -- it doesn't literally mean what it says. Does "wiped off the map" mean to totally destroy or to literally wipe off a map? Does "removed from the page of history" mean to stop the progress of a particular policy or to literally remove pages from a history book?

We understand common idioms in our own language but translations can be messy. Thus the translatin error.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 03:39 | 537128 RichardP
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I'll go with the translation given below: "vanish from the page of time". That more closely approximates "cease to exist". A regime can cease to exist, even though it's leaders are still giving interviews to the media.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 03:04 | 537102 AnonymousAnarchist
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The full quote translated directly to English:

"The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time."

Word by word translation:

Imam (Khomeini) ghoft (said) een (this) rezhim-e (regime) ishghalgar-e (occupying) qods (Jerusalem) bayad (must) az safheh-ye ruzgar (from page of time) mahv shavad (vanish from).

The fact that a 30-year-old, mis-translated Khomenei quote is constantly cited when one points out the fact that Iran has not threatened aggression against any other country (although, like all governments, their citizens would be better off without them), shows that not only is the argument weak, it's non-existent.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 10:06 | 537415 Max Hunter
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True.. But they really need that one right now.. Need it badly..

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 04:12 | 537152 fajensen
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But Pakistan has indeed tried, twice, to wipe India off the face of the earth - failing that, Pakistan tried to kill India's parliament .... But talk matters much more than actual behaviour, I gather!

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 09:14 | 537344 tmosley
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Exactly.  Brown and yellow people don't count.  Only whites and Jews (preferably both) count.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 09:41 | 537378's picture

An American DEA asset is being held in the US in connection with the Mumbai attack. The US will not give India access to the prisoner. Interesting, isn't it?

Tue, 08/24/2010 - 03:31 | 539540 Shylockracy
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Crockett, this junk you got reminded me of Orwell's line:

"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."

Tue, 08/24/2010 - 03:44 | 539549 RichardP
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The truth, out of context, is not useful.

Tue, 08/24/2010 - 11:04 | 540246's picture

The truth, out of context, is not useful.

Thanks for disclosing your M.O.

Tue, 08/24/2010 - 12:59 | 540643 RichardP
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Transparency, and all that.

Tue, 08/24/2010 - 12:58 | 540635 Shylockracy
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Indeed, RichardPerle, and it is up to you to provide the right context so that the right truth may blossom in all its useful glory, I presume.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 07:58 | 537245 Tense INDIAN
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its no use trying to find out a reason for this behaviour by these TALMUDIC zionist....OIL or no OIL......they r working according to a plan by some mason called Pike.....even PAKISTAN is being attacked .....we always knew there was a plan to break up PAKISTAN ...balochistan......steal their the masons are trying all sorts of warefare including the weather weapon.............the weather pattern witnessed in different parts of the world have stunned n destroyed many.....Fires in Russia ...Floods in Pakistan n China......Pakistan has been hit so badly that they r about to collapse....many here must have heard about HAARP.............( do u know that a former senator called TED STEVENS was killed recently).:::

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 07:58 | 537246 cbaba
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The only reason iran is making a nuclear bomb is to balance the power with Israel. Isreal has currently 500 nuclear bombs, iran has none.

If someone wants to make a nuclear terrorist attack to israel, us , europe  they can do it  without iranian, pakistani or NK's help. Russians sell very small size nuclear bombs in the black market which one can carry in a bag. Any terrorist organization can reach these sources and buy it.

All wars in the middle east are for oil only.


Mon, 08/23/2010 - 09:43 | 537379's picture

The US National Intelligence Estimate states that Iran has no nuclear weapons program.

Sun, 08/22/2010 - 22:43 | 536787 Barry Freed
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People like you should be dropped from a plane onto whatever country you want to attack, without a parachute.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 05:52 | 537194 Incubus
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Their righteous conviction will sunder the earth before them as they approach; any lesser, more rational man will simply perish.

Sun, 08/22/2010 - 23:21 | 536829 masterinchancery
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Or their unmanned bomber.  Funny how all the arab states in the Gulf want Israel to strike.

Sun, 08/22/2010 - 23:49 | 536854's picture

Iran is not an Arab state, the folks there are Persian. Make sure you kill the right people when you strike.

And who but an Arab or Persian (dirty Muslims) could conceive of an unmanned aircraft which bombs people? It's an infernal machine, an engine of infamy of which the gentle American character can scarcely comprehend.

Go get 'em!

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 00:58 | 536936 Oh regional Indian
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Nice Irony Crockett. You are Ironyman on this thread.

The predator.... very interesting war-machine, as it allowed a further disambiguation from death. Like they are building machines that will be controllable with 3-D "game" environments, with arm-chair warriors, shooting, killing, bombing...

Surreal world.


Mon, 08/23/2010 - 01:14 | 536952's picture


I am Ironyman...


Mon, 08/23/2010 - 03:32 | 537121 Village Idiot
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I prefer - Crockett the "provocateur."  Takes one to know one, ol' buddy.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 06:57 | 537214 Oh regional Indian
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On dial-up so no vids, but I know you are, so all good.


Mon, 08/23/2010 - 09:47 | 537385's picture

I was on dial up until June then got DSL for $20/month. Well worth it. I love to watch videos especially Ayn Rand interviews on youtube.

Sun, 08/22/2010 - 23:52 | 536859 merehuman
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Sorry, i misunderstood "unmanned" as in "balls cut off" or "not without Viagra".

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 00:10 | 536884 barkingbill
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what about israels constant threats? you want to be the worlds policeman and bankrupt the united states doing it? why is Iran's proxy war against israel something we need to start a war over ? how many proxy wars we got going do you think? what about the one we have with jundallah against Iran? give me a break with this b.s.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 01:06 | 536943 Things that go bump
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Have a war dance on me - courtesy of the All Black New Zealand rugby team.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 01:17 | 536958 longontents
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What is this "low-level" proxy war you speak of?  Do tell us more.  I see no evidence of war being waged on Israel from Lebanon at this time.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 02:02 | 536983 assembler
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You mean besides them being officially at war? Of course ignoring the huge build up of Iranian supplied Hezbollah arms aimed at Israel from Lebanon. Not to mention the flotilla provocation. Yes besides all that, and the ambush on the Israeli's clearing a tree in the neutral zone, there is no "war" going on.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 03:09 | 537104 skippy
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Umm packing for what to pack[?] (weight is a factor)...body armor or a economy size pack of Depends.

Skippy...damn the gods of technology for not yet producing Kevlar undergarments!!!

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 07:59 | 537247 Sean7k
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When did the zionists become part of "western civilization"? It is unfortunate that the jewish people have to be used as a pawn in a war of stupidity. Israel, if you want to bomb Iran- you're choice, but I would do everything possible to isolate you and make you pay any price for your actions. 

The US should not lift one finger, financial or otherwise, to help the Israelis. I am not a "hairshirted pacifist", nor am I an ignorant militarist who defines peace as the destruction of another people. The US government has declared this plant to be acceptable and for peaceful electric generation. This knisset member is a tool and deserves whatever apocalypse he creates.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 13:10 | 537827 A Nanny Moose
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Si vis pacem para bellum? That means you prepare, not act upon.

For anybody to initiate force is wrong! I don't give a shit who it is.


Sun, 08/22/2010 - 22:15 | 536751 ZackAttack
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Israel and Iran fight to the death... two problems solved at once.

Sun, 08/22/2010 - 23:09 | 536819 Things that go bump
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Is it going to be a cage match?

Sun, 08/22/2010 - 23:54 | 536861 merehuman
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greed and stupidity will never die. Goes good with fries and coke

Sun, 08/22/2010 - 22:16 | 536753 Arraya
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An Apocalypse (Greek?ποκ?λυψις Apokálypsis; "lifting of the veil" or "revelation") is a disclosure of something hidden from the majority of mankind in an era dominated by falsehood and misconception, i.e. the veil to be lifted

Sun, 08/22/2010 - 22:59 | 536805 Rusty Shorts
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..and the merchants of the earth wept and mourned, since no one buys their cargo any more, cargo of gold, silver, jewels, and pearls, fine linen, purple, silk, and scarlet, all kinds of scented wood, all articles of ivory, all articles of costly wood, bronze, iron, and marble, cinnamon, spice, frankincense, wine, oil, fine flour and wheat, cattle and sheep, horses and chariots, and slaves, that is, human souls...In one hour all this wealth has been laid waste...and all shipmasters and seafaring men, sailors and all whose trade is on the sea, stood far off and cried out...


Apocalypse 18 ~


No, I'm not religious, yet.

Sun, 08/22/2010 - 23:27 | 536837's picture

So we should short chariot manufacturers?

One would think that a prophet who was adept enough to correctly predict the apocalypse would have also noticed that there wouldn't be many horse drawn vehicles making the rounds in the end times.

Sun, 08/22/2010 - 23:51 | 536857 Rusty Shorts
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Chariots for sale.

Sun, 08/22/2010 - 23:56 | 536865 merehuman
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Chariots for sale pick

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 00:19 | 536896's picture

Chariots for sale.

Nice site. Might be nice to email the prophecy to them so that they can get into some other line of work. Or at least tip them off about the internal combustion engine.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 00:27 | 536904 Rusty Shorts
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You are right, I will go ahead, and give him a heads up.

Sun, 08/22/2010 - 23:40 | 536847 Spalding_Smailes
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The 2012 phenomenon comprises a range of eschatological beliefs that cataclysmic or transformative events will occur on December 21, 2012,[1][2][3] which is said to be the end-date of a 5,125-year-long cycle in the Mayan Long Count calendar. Various astronomical alignments and numerological formulae related to this date have been proposed, but none have been accepted by mainstream scholarship.


Revelation 20:12 ..." And I saw the dead small and greatstand before God; and the books were opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according  to their works." ...

Judgement Day


     The Bible says the Euphrates river will be the initial division between the North and the South when the nations of the world begin to align in preparation for the battle of Armageddon.

Sun, 08/22/2010 - 22:18 | 536758 CashCowEquity
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blow them both up

Sun, 08/22/2010 - 22:22 | 536763 Votewithabullet
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Russians built that reactor and they wont take kindly to you blowing it up. IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.Reasonable people have said in fact I think it was Matt Simmons that Iran's ability to export will end in less than a decade. They will generate new-clear energy and will never attack Isreal.just chill niggers we can do this.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 00:03 | 536871 MeTarzanUjane
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The same thoughts have been in my mind ever since Tyler posted the article about israel having 8 days left to bomb the reactor. There are too many outside interests involved. Big ones with the means to destroy anything in their path.

Therefore I agree with you. It will never happen.

I will lend you an 'a'.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 00:18 | 536895 DaveyJones
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Used to think the same thing too until I saw what this country will do to itself and others for oil

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 03:50 | 537132 Village Idiot
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Mr. Tarzan, you are a hard person to catch up to!  I am still trying to make sense of our recent exchange.  Would you please elaborate?  Thank you, kind sir.

by MeTarzanUjane
on Fri, 08/20/2010 - 14:32


Hey VI, I think it's getting junked by the israelis because they have a corner on everything gay especially the israeli army and barney 'backdoor' frank. This may lead to a reduction in profits.

But I'm just guessing about the motives of the junkers. Thank you for soliciting our opinions.

by Village Idiot
on Fri, 08/20/2010 - 15:16

Interesting viewpoint, Tarzan.  Although I can't speak for Israelis who might be junking, in the spirit of full disclosure, I am Jewish.  Just your average run of the mill Jew, though - no affiliations, no agenda.

by MeTarzanUjane
on Fri, 08/20/2010 - 16:18

No affiliations but declares judaism? Yea, no agenda. That's obvious. Did you catch the ghay while you were a student at NYU? Kind regards.

by Village Idiot
on Sat, 08/21/2010 - 13:19



Edit:  Not the agenda you imply.



Mr. Tarzan, what are you saying here?  btw, I was a five year student at a two year community college.






Mon, 08/23/2010 - 01:31 | 536965 TBT or not TBT
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The Russians have been paid for the reactor.   Do you think GM gets pissed when a car they've sold gets totaled?    For the Russians this is mainly about bringing in cash.   The reactor they sold doesn't belong to them.    (duh)

Sun, 08/22/2010 - 22:22 | 536765 nonclaim
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There's always a war being fought somewhere; this is the state of Humanity since the beginning and will continue to the end.

Sun, 08/22/2010 - 23:44 | 536852's picture

It's always raining somewhere in the world but that doesn't mean that precipitation constitutes the entire nature of weather.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 01:04 | 536942 Oh regional Indian
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Mon, 08/23/2010 - 08:52 | 537314 nonclaim
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Yet it still rains... which is the my point, lost in a hurricane of failed reader analogies.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 00:05 | 536877 dark pools of soros
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there's always a central bank somewhere funding both sides of a war to no end...

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 01:07 | 536946 Oh regional Indian
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*Clap Clap*


Sun, 08/22/2010 - 22:23 | 536766 Rotwang
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Sometimes the snake can't swallow the pig

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 00:40 | 536922's picture

The snake couldn't swallow the pig,

Cuz the porker was just too damned big.

So after some scuffles,

The pig shared his truffles,

Which both of them really could dig.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 01:13 | 536951 Oh regional Indian
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*Clap Clap Clap*  and a Hahaha to boot!


Mon, 08/23/2010 - 03:53 | 537137 Village Idiot
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Oh regional one,

When are we going to together the group of "one thousand?"  Peace.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 07:03 | 537218 Oh regional Indian
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Hey VI,

As soon as the thousand show up :-) My (and your) slightly non-financial stuff and calls for action are interestingly received here. 

I feel an urge, to do, like you, in a way, to sway, the mind, hive, collective;

if only changing the world was a change of perspective.

Then again, maybe it is.



Sun, 08/22/2010 - 22:25 | 536768 benb
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The Globalists want Iran gone. Iranian oil rightfully belongs to the British Royals and all their Hoity-Toity

pals. Iranian contracts with China, Russia, and the rest goes against commonly accepted, approved business practices. That is to say it is an impediment to the monopolist agenda. War could also provide great cover in the event of the Big Crash. The IDF is just something to be used like the U.S. military to further the goals of the ruling oligarchy; another clone army. This has little to nothing to do with some future potential nuclear threat from Iran. Interestingly Israeli agents have been all over Patagonia in recent years scoping the place out. Are they are considering a relocation?


Sun, 08/22/2010 - 23:11 | 536823 Mad Max
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One of the best responses here, right on.  Don't forget all that 1953 coup d'etat and SAVAK unpleasantness as well.  The ghost of Churchill is cursing the middle east through the present day.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 00:48 | 536926's picture

Don't forget all that 1953 coup d'etat

My dad used to drive a '53 coup d'etat convertible. He said it was one sweet ride.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 01:02 | 536938 Uncle Remus
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That one had the flip-out fins, right? And semaphores in the door posts for turn indicators. Sweeeet.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 01:50 | 536977's picture

That's the one. Granddad drove a Studebaker Hawk.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 10:33 | 537143 Village Idiot
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Oh, Lord, please let me die peacefully like my grandfather.  Not like the people who were screaming in the back of his car did.


No disrespect towards gramps - that joke always pops into my head when I hear about grandpa driving - especially mine.

Sun, 08/22/2010 - 23:28 | 536835 Implicit simplicit
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"Good Night America"



Mon, 08/23/2010 - 01:31 | 536964 Whats that smell
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Good observation, many jews went to Argentina when hitler was killing them, it is kind of like their summer home?

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 04:05 | 537146 Village Idiot
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by Whats that smell
on Sun, 08/22/2010 - 22:31


Good observation, many jews went to Argentina when hitler was killing them, it is kind of like their summer home?




Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it was the Nazi's who were being killed - when (they) fled to Argentina.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 14:20 | 538042 Village Idiot
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Junker, please correct me if I am wrong on my history.  The invitation was already extended to you once.

Tue, 08/24/2010 - 01:17 | 539455 Whats that smell
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You are correct, but there are many jews in Argentina, I did not junk your post.

Sun, 08/22/2010 - 22:30 | 536774 TexDenim
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Not gonna happen.

Sun, 08/22/2010 - 22:44 | 536788 willien1derland
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Israel faces its survival - Iran promotes it ambitions - My question to the International Community - With the introduction of Iran's 'Ambassador of Death' Drone - Iran clearly looks to extend its aggressive posture, however, I am certain that the 'Club International' will remain on the side lines slinging inane commentary - Iran will play the 'Islam/Muslim' card & everyone else will pander - can see this one from the cheap seats unfortunately...

Sun, 08/22/2010 - 22:54 | 536801 stev3e
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!940's - the creation of Israel was a fu*king mistake.  All the world's problems come from this singular mistake.

Sun, 08/22/2010 - 22:57 | 536804 lizzy36
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Wow, let me guess, you are a proud graduate of the US public school system. 

Mazel Tov. 

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 04:11 | 537150 Village Idiot
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by stev3e
on Sun, 08/22/2010 - 19:54


"!940's - the creation of Israel was a fu*king mistake.  All the world's problems come from this singular mistake."



Thank you for not actually spelling out the word "fuck."  Some might have found it offensive.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 10:26 | 537444 grunion
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Yes, I junked your inflammatory comment.

Sun, 08/22/2010 - 23:20 | 536826 NOTW777
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no mistake, rather fulfilled prophecy - 580ish BC. : This is what the Sovereign Lord says:  I will take the Israelites out of the nations where they have gone.  I will gather them from all around and bring them back into their own land.  I will make them one nation in the land on the mountains of Israel.  Ezekial 37:21-22.

Sun, 08/22/2010 - 23:52 | 536858 delacroix
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the khazars, are jewish converts ( 7th century), not biblical jews

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 02:04 | 536987 RichardP
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    ... scientists are able to read Jewish genomes like a history book. The latest DNA volume weighs in on the controversial, centuries-old claim that European Jews are all the descendants of Khazars, a Turkic group of the north Caucasus who converted to Judaism in the late eighth and early ninth century. The DNA has spoken: no.

Note the date is June of 2010 for the article.

There is more interesting information here:

    ... a 2006 study by Behar et al., based on high-resolution analysis of haplogroup K(mtDNA), suggested that about 40% of the current Ashkenazi population is descended matrilineally from just four women, or "founder lineages", that were "likely from a Hebrew/Levantine mtDNA pool" originating in the Middle East in the 1st and 2nd centuries CE.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 02:40 | 537086's picture

Forty percent. So, a minority of Ashkenazis can claim that a long time ago their ancestors lived in Palestine. Interesting.

Israeli Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion said that the Palestinians are descendants of the Biblical Jews. The DNA evidence appears to confirm his belief:

One DNA study by geneticist Ariella Oppenheim concluded that genetic evidence coincides with historical accounts that at least part of the Arab Israeli and Palestinian population is mainly descended from local Christians and Jews "who had converted [to Islam] after the Islamic conquest in the seventh century A.D."[112][113][114] These Christian and Jewish converts are believed to be descended from a "core population that had lived in the area for several centuries, some even since prehistorical times."[115] The study also discovered significant genetic mixing between these converts and incoming Arab tribes during the first millennium A.D., as well as parallel genetic mixing of the Jewish population with the local peoples throughout the Jewish diaspora.[112]

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 03:13 | 537107 RichardP
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Forty percent. So, a minority of Ashkenazis can claim that a long time ago their ancestors lived in Palestine.

Forty percent of Ashkenazis can trace their ancestry to 4 women.  The other 60 percent trace their ancestry to a wider group of women.  Your response suggest that you didn't read the articles.  And the subject is whether Ashkenazis are the direct descendants of the Khazars.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 03:33 | 537120's picture

Believe it or not, I do not read every article linked to on Internet forums. I relied on the quotation you provided. If the quotation provided was insufficient to make your point then the fault lies with you.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 03:55 | 537135 RichardP
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My quote was sufficient to make my point.  You made a totally different point.  I think you wouldn't have made that different point if you had read the article.  But I get your point about not reading all links.  I don't either.

There is a consistant claim on this blog that the Ashkenazi (European) Jews are not Biblical Jews but are the descendants of the Khazars, a Turkic group of the north Caucasus who converted to Judaism in the late eighth and early ninth century.  If 40% of Ashkenazi Jews can be linked to just 4 women in the Middle Eastern jewish community, that fact by itself negates the claim that all Ashkenazi Jews are the descendants of the Khazars.  That was my point, and my quote supported it.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 04:14 | 537155 Village Idiot
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Oh, Crockett, your cracks are showing, buddy. :-)

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 09:56 | 537401's picture

What do you mean?

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 10:06 | 537406's picture

If 40% of Ashkenazi Jews can be linked to just 4 women in the Middle Eastern jewish community, that fact by itself negates the claim that all Ashkenazi Jews are the descendants of the Khazars.

Couldn't they be descendants of both? Also, couldn't these middle eastern ancestors have been Semites other than Jews? Arabs are also Semitic and have lived closer to historic Khazar territory and in greater numbers.

And what of the claim that the Palestinians are descendants of Biblical Jews and Christians? It seems logical and the DNA evidence appears to support the premise. Seems to me that the Palestinians are as much, if not more, the Children of Abraham as compared to the Ashkenazis.



Mon, 08/23/2010 - 17:33 | 538685 RichardP
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You will find the answers to your questions in the articles I linked to.  That saves space here.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 18:04 | 538783's picture

Thanks. That answers my questions without having to read those articles.

Sun, 08/22/2010 - 23:56 | 536866 ATTILA THE WIMP

The Truth About Religion

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 00:09 | 536883 AnonymousAnarchist
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Zionism is opposed to Jewish Law.

The Talmud in Tractate Kesubos (p. 111a), teaches that Jews shall not use human force to bring about the establishment of a Jewish state before the coming of the universally accepted Moshiach (Messiah from the House of David). Furthermore it states that the Jewish people are forbidden to rebel against the nations and that they should remain loyal citizens and not attempt to leave the exile which G-d sent them into, ahead of time.

Don't get me wrong, Ahmadinejad is a statist nutjob (although he is an amateur compared to Bush, Obama, Bibi, etc. in using the apparatus of the state to murder) but the extreme weakness of the arguments used to make Iran appear dangerous is how you know they aren't (at least relatively compared to other states).

"Vigilant and just human beings will not blame the Jews for the crimes committed by the fake Zionist regime and its supporters in the occupied territories, including genocide of defenseless and oppressed women and children...." The solution to the conflict in the Holy Land is "a free referendum to establish a government based on the will of the Palestinian nation in which all Palestinians, including Jews, Christians and Muslims will be given the chance to vote." - Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 00:35 | 536910 DaveyJones
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I thought all our problems came from advertising

Sun, 08/22/2010 - 23:25 | 536833 Max Hunter
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Israel faces its survival - Iran promotes it ambitions -...

Ohhh.. I get it.. You just watched the evening news and now you are really smart and understand what's going on over there..

Give me a break.. You have the insight of a child.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 04:18 | 537160 Village Idiot
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by Max Hunter
on Sun, 08/22/2010 - 20:25


Israel faces its survival - Iran promotes it ambitions -...

"Ohhh.. I get it.. You just watched the evening news and now you are really smart and understand what's going on over there..

Give me a break.. You have the insight of a child."


Um...I would have to call "kettle" here.  "Disingenuous at best."

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 09:00 | 537323 Max Hunter
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Yes, your conditioning would force such an assertion..

It is so apparent that I repeat talking points from the nightly news..  Pot, kettle, black.. whatever.. sounds good.. right?

Boy, I see you are attacking with the "Disingenuous at best" I notice you accused another of it being his catch phrase and now rightfully tossed it towards me because I do like to use that accusation.

You just keep sticking up for Israel and demonizing all Arabs and Americans that don't buy into Jewish brainwashing.. You still have numbers on your side.. Use them while you can.

Your insults appeal to simple-minded, that's about it. But, then again, I suppose you know that going in.

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 10:31 | 537453 grunion
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Some here do not work and play well with others.

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!