It Is Time For The Recoupling Arb

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Thu, 06/03/2010 - 15:39 | 392532 Cursive
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And with this late day equity thrust, the spread is widening.  Hmmm.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 15:40 | 392535 Leo Kolivakis
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Recoupling? you mean there's hope...

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 15:45 | 392553 Conrad Murray
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Get that disgusting display of indecency off my screen! AHHHHH!!!

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 17:42 | 392757 Unscarred
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Seems like those numbers are sagging a little bit...

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 19:29 | 393023 Double down
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Yeah, where is Leo with something tasteful?

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 15:43 | 392536 What_Me_Worry
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I think a lot of people have high hopes for tomorrow.

The EUR/USD seems to pop off of 1.2159/1.2162 every time right now.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 15:51 | 392565 jbc77
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Personally, I want to see the Euro smashed into bits. Looks like 1.2159 has broken into the close, see if it slides farther.

Perhaps the central bank laughing stock gang has realized that the more they crank currencies they less effect it has, enventually the crank will be viewed negatively en masse and it will drop accordingly.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 15:44 | 392550 plocequ1
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Updated score:
Bernanke 2

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 16:01 | 392562 Cursive
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Give it 24 hours.


ETA:  In fact, if the CB's don't close the gap before tomorrow's open, we could have a big gap down on tomorrow's open.  The jobs report would be a great excuse.  BTW, I didn't junk you.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 16:11 | 392613 plocequ1
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Dosent matter. The Pump software is new and improved and will stand up to Euro declines, Oil spills, Wars, Dennis Hoppers death, Etc. Guaranteed or your money stolen.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 15:48 | 392557 hambone
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Anybody thinking now is the time take up some shorts?  Euro sinking to lows...S&P sitting on # coming in morning likely a sell the news event?.  How brave do we dare?

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 15:51 | 392568 Al Huxley
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I've been adding to short positions today, although I feel like I should have some out-of-the money SPY calls just to hedge against those low-volume meltups that seem to happen so frequently.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 16:17 | 392623 Greater Fool
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OTM SPY calls don't really help much with that risk. A low-volume meltup means vol through the floor, so between that and theta over a period of several days of small gains you lose money on the short and stay about flat on the calls.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 18:25 | 392862 ZeroPower
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Increases typically lead to decrease in vol. Agree on theta, but you could purchase longer dated calls.

You could always go with a call spread.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 15:52 | 392566 wagefreedom
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as I just caught myself thinking I'd cover if we close again above the 200 day, I can all but quarantee that now is the time to short... goddamn look at that $ strength tho....

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 15:51 | 392567 aldousd
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John Meriwether, is that you?

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 17:44 | 392763 Unscarred
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I lost track.  Is he on his third or his forth hedge fund?

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 15:52 | 392573 Gubbmint Cheese
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in a 'normal' market where fundamentals mattered, yes.. absolutely short the crap out of this thing. But in THIS market? No - best to sit on the sidelines imho..


Thu, 06/03/2010 - 15:53 | 392575 Joe Shmoe
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I agree.  But then, isn't it a lagging indicator anyway?

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 15:53 | 392577 Chartist
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Hambone, individual stocks like WHR are setting up to be interesting shorts...JPM too...

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 15:56 | 392582 jkruffin
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I just about guarantee they will intervene overnight and push EUR/USD back to 1.23 minimum before the jobs report is released.  No way they let it fall under 1.2150  I would be very very shocked if they did.  GS was calling to go short, that is the first contrarion indicator to me, as it always has been.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 18:29 | 392872 ZeroPower
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1.2152 hit not going any low so far...

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 16:00 | 392590 What_Me_Worry
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PPT earns their pay, yet again.  That was some nice work to raise the markets into a falling euro during that last hour.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 16:02 | 392593 carbonmutant
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"...a spectaular explosion will immediately render your trade TBTF and will guarantee Discount Window access for life."

...which will be shorter than the term of many current legislators...

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 16:04 | 392598 papaswamp
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i thought it was interesting the EUR tracked with the market (or vis versa) until late in the day..then decoupled. What happened? Investors decide now Europe is ok....or is everyone so pumped about tomorrows numbers? God forbid they come in lower than expected.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 16:05 | 392599 n2dark
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One way or the other tomorrow will be a bloodbath.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 16:09 | 392606 Joe Shmoe
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My dog just farted (yes, I have her in the office with me).

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 16:09 | 392607 John Law
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The EUR/USD is in a decending triangle on the 4 hr charts. It had a break out last night during the Asia session to the upside but that fell once the European session started so the euro may be in for a huge fall shortly. And the usd/jpy has sort of (it's not the strongest patteren I've ever seen) put in a head and shoulders which would put it around 84 handle if it falls thru the neck line.

Things a very intresting indeed.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 16:19 | 392611 hambone
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Euro is teetering on the edge...whose turn is it to stoke the fire?

Buckle up everybody...we're 'bout to shoot higher or lower but either way gonna be a good sized move.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 17:42 | 392758 Jace0228
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I dont have access to the forex, can anyone point me to an ETF or other equity I can trade on Ameritrade that will give access to this?

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 18:29 | 392871 ZeroPower
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FXE and FXY. Watch for liquidity on the latter one though

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 19:05 | 392966 BeerGoggles
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I dont have access to the forex, can anyone point me to an ETF or other equity I can trade on Ameritrade that will give access to this?

 I would recommend you get access to the forex.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 19:21 | 393003 Jace0228
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The genius of simplicity :)

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:05 | 394138 BeerGoggles
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This trade is going nowhere. Arbed 50pips in the hole so far and it has recoupled. Great.


Edit: closed for profit. Nice.

Out of interest, how do you calibrate the correlation? I have an overlay but due to axis autofitting, it makes it look like they are recorrelated when they are not.

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