Italian SEC Can't Rule Out Manipulation In Bank Stock Plunge

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Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:07 | 1398500 Bohemian Clubber
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haha 'stop-loss trades' from who ? the FED ?

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:09 | 1398507 firstdivision
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No one is allowed to sale, short, or buy puts on any financial stock.  That always instills confidence.....merp

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:10 | 1398508 Vinny
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Wow, the Italian Sherlock has arrived. What news will they announce next? Perhaps the time for sunrise and sunset?

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:10 | 1398509 alien-IQ
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while manipulation may be a possibility...yet another more likely reason might just be that people dump trucked those stocks en masse because they are overpriced insolvent pieces of shit?

just a theory...

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:24 | 1398569 alien-IQ
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if all goes according to plan, by 3pm I'll be far too baked to care...and by 4pm I should have no clue what they're talking about.

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:51 | 1398662 fuu
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You have got to be shitting us.

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:56 | 1398679 RockyRacoon
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Actually, yes, he is.


Arthur Andersen
Fri, 06/24/2011 - 13:24 | 1398976 fuu
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Whew. I was afraid this was all just a flashback.

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:15 | 1398510 Debt Rolling
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The next step is forbidding by law any stock drop. 

Don't laugh: in socialist countries, there were laws forbidding people to sell capital grounded in State-owned companies. 

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:14 | 1398512 Eireann go Brach
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So many skeptics out there these days, and to think some people still believe O'Bama was not born in Kenya!

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:15 | 1398515 firstdivision
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No one is allowed to sale, short, or buy puts on any financial stock.  That always instills confidence.....merp

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:13 | 1398526 SheepDog-One
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Bank stock DECLINED? This is highly suspect...has to be 'manipulation'! If it had gone way up, then obviously there was no manipulation.

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:16 | 1398537 Cdad
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You got it, Dog.  Banks shares cannot plunge because banker bonuses are paid in options.  

I shudder to think what will happen to TIF if bank shares go any lower.  Talk about recession contagion if the retail sellers of bobbles lose their jobs.  The fate of the US hangs here in the balance.  Whatever will our nation do?

Now, Average Joe's silver coin value being plundered...that I can see.

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:24 | 1398553 SheepDog-One
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No little Blue Boxes, therefore no mistresses, therefore banksters cranky and unhappy, cats sleeping with dogs etc, etc....

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:13 | 1398527 Vinny
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O'Bama was born in Kenya? Why does he have an Irish name then?

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:18 | 1398549 Eireann go Brach
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Didn't you hear, he was in Ireland recently and claimed he was 8% Irish too, so he changed his last last name to O'Bama!

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:25 | 1398575 Vinny
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Yeah, I saw that photo of him and his angry half at the pub.  Must have been a sight, because afterwards everyone was trying to flee that island. Yeah, I saw the pictures of stranded travelers too.

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:17 | 1398530 carbonmutant
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Mutually Assured Deflation...

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:22 | 1398545 Caviar Emptor
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Mutually Assured Financial Destruction

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:15 | 1398535 speconomist
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Spain before Italy!

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:21 | 1398542 lizzy36
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Newsflash: If its trading, it is manipulated. Oddly nobody minds when it trades higher, that is "animal spirits", when it trades lower "evil short sellers/speculators".

Ahhhh simple branding.

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:25 | 1398560 carbonmutant
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 Shows you which side of the market most traders are on...


Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:28 | 1398562 SheepDog-One
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Stocks levitate up on bad news? 'Animal spirits'. Stocks go down? In particular BANK stocks? 'EVIL spirits'!

Means banksters get smaller bonuses, banksters get cranky and throw tantrums, markets plunge to get politician puppets back in line to hand over more free money.

I believe they refer to this as 'free and unfettered markets'.


Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:54 | 1398688 Protonrick
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Speculators drive oil prices up = evil.

Speculators drive stock prices down = evil.

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:17 | 1398544 Caviar Emptor
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Rising flood waters in Minot, ND may flood nuclear silos.....poof? 

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:25 | 1398559 SheepDog-One
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AH yes interesting sideshow here check this out!

YouTube - WTF - Nebraska Nuclear Accident PLANNED?

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:30 | 1398579 Caviar Emptor
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There's been a no-fly zone over Ft Calhoun for weeks. Very hushed. Only reported in offshore press. 

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:50 | 1398674 fuu
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Supposedly it is to keep news choppers from getting too clsoe because of power lines and stuff.

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:40 | 1398628 Cdad
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Fri, 06/24/2011 - 12:02 | 1398721 RockyRacoon
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It's a simulation site, not what the hell IS going on.

Some reality-checking is in order.

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:24 | 1398558 entendance
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Europeans better beware mr.bean-draghi coming next to Frankfurt and bearing G.S. gifts to anyone...

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:26 | 1398565 Dre4dwolf
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Maybe people are dumping those stocks because they are worth-less? financial stocks are probably the worst investment when it comes to standards of safety, stability and the true state of these institutions.

The financial corporations are gambling money they don't have in quanitites that can only lead to self termination, who would invest in that for their future? for short term gains its a gamble, "pump and dump" is becoming the new trend.

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:27 | 1398567 richard in norway
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uni-credit is very exposed to Eastern European debt, most of which is denominated in Swiss franc's. so when the CHF surges the problems for eastern European borrowers get worse and the eventual problems for uni-credit intensify


folk keep forgetting about the former soviet bloc countries, but things are really bad there. Egypt style revolts are a distinct possibility

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:28 | 1398572 oogs66
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Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:39 | 1398621 ivana
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that's why you can expect CHF to rise more and more to ridicilous levels.

Will be interesting to watch east european govs .. they will have to come up with some plan for their sheeps

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:53 | 1398671 Going Loco
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I believe this is true, certainly for Poland. I am receiving emails from ex. workers of mine who returned to Poland after completing a project for me in the UK and they are desperate for money. Desperate.

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:24 | 1398570 oogs66
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but rest assured they can rule out manipulation in the case of any stock going up!

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:32 | 1398605 treemagnet
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PIIGS = paper tiger with tail on fire.

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:33 | 1398607 williambanzai7
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Italian SEC, sounds like a movie about Mary Schapiro.

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:39 | 1398616 carbonmutant
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Could you illustrate your point?

Something to the tune of Best Little Whorehouse in Texas
Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:38 | 1398612 ivana
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ooo yes. Italian pig is lagging and powerz don't like that

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 11:40 | 1398627 Roger Knights
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Ragin' contagion


Fri, 06/24/2011 - 12:21 | 1398766 hungarianboy
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And when things go up? Do they investigate to?

Please let the second crash coming. Just so that I can safeley buy again :-)

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 13:38 | 1398958 glenlloyd
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Fri, 06/24/2011 - 13:39 | 1398965 glenlloyd
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Fri, 06/24/2011 - 13:19 | 1398972 glenlloyd
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This little PIIGSY went to market....

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 13:35 | 1399020 glenlloyd
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Fri, 06/24/2011 - 16:18 | 1399640 AldoHux_IV
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So stupid I don't know what to say-- oh wait I just said it.

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 18:33 | 1399974 Buck Johnson
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It could be speculators, but the problem is that like spain at one time Italy kept a low profile until finally the contagion got to them.

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