Italy Pays Most Ever To Place 15 Year Bonds

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oogs66's picture

i was just noticing that italian and spanish 10 year yields were back to where they were before the ecb/china intervention rumors...that market manipulation by the government lasted even less than the oil release one

Cognitive Dissonance's picture

Michelle Caruso "Goggles" Cabrera was just on CNBC live from Italy telling me all was well and that Italy has hit a home run here, selling these bonds for much less than was expected and with great outside participation to boot.

I believe everything "Goggles" (both upper and mid level pair) tells me.

 

BTW, when she goes to the gas mask she is much more coherent.

Ghordius's picture

Last week in Athens nobody even tried to sell me any goggles or gas mask. This is the sorry state of entrepreneurship in the EU.

I would have loved to send a few MMS of me with props in front of this "GREEECE IS RIOT MADNESS - AAARGH" background. Sadly, I have found no such background...

Reporters live in an alternative reality.

Sudden Debt's picture

I think woman with gasmasks are sexy!

But if they wear that, they should show their tits.

At least.

 

Cognitive Dissonance's picture

I love MCC when she's wearing her Goggles. And the gas mask sends me over the top to puppy love.

<sigh> I love MccGoggles.

lolmao500's picture

A little question... what will happen to the states and municipalities bond markets if the US defaults? They gonna blow up?

Ghordius's picture

Concentrate, this is about Italian bonds!

Now seriously, why should the US ever default? Because the Republicans are posturing about it? No way.

10% chance you'll see a bit of government shutdown, it would not be the first time.

Ghordius's picture

If there is a breaking point it will be in September.

If the "Tesoro" passes this September test, then the "Italian Problem" is over until the goverment changes.

As long as there is no French Banking crisis!

HTZMR's picture

the ECB won't intervene to prop up Italy. They did so with Greece only to see German politicians demand creditors accept forced rollover. And it would take a hell of a lot of freshly printed euros to move the Italian bond market - the third deepest in the world after U.S. and Japan.

 

Ghordius's picture

I agree in the spirit of your sentence but not in the details, for the ECB it makes sense to buy a few billions of Italian Bonds now if this can quiet the waters until the August and September tranches are over.

On this, you'll find most Germans to agree.

jm's picture

Totally disagree.  They can rapid fire bond futures and wag the cash market.

There will always be dogs that chase cars.

Hiwatt's picture

The ECB intervention rumors this week are complete bullsh*t. The SMP is over for the time being, wake up. If they want to restart/revamp the program they will make sure everyone knows. 
Reuters as source of auction "color" is ridiculous: 

"the NEW 15yr benchmark" ??? New my buttock, it's the 7th tap after the initial auction at in September 2010....

Also comparing the yield at taps/auctions to last auction for the bond is GROSSLY MISLEADING:  the last 3/26 tap was on the 8th of March of this year....

Go on.....keep the attention away from the Red-White'n'Blue 400 pound gorilla in the room...

Dick Darlington's picture

And after the auction both Italy and Spain bond curves collapsed...

oogs66's picture

remember the current Greek 10 year bond was a "massive success" in March '10.  6.5% yield.  Within 2 months it was trading below 70 cents on the dollar

Ghordius's picture

Are you seriously comparing the two countries? How?

The Italians debate about different austerity programs, the Greeks debate... well, they debate.

This is another misconception about the EU, that somehow Greece and Belgium are about as far apart as California and Florida...

Peter K's picture

"We will bring you any stories of ECB or Chinese intervention as we see them".  Why, is there a difference;)

Dick Darlington's picture

Tyler, check out Italian 10 yr bond future. ECB plunge protection team in fire?

Hiwatt's picture

plainly illiquid. Which works both on the downside AND on the upside. 
A 300-odd lots buy order went through (€ 30 million bond equivalent).

THE DORK OF CORK's picture

If Italian yields are the average in the Eurozone how can Euro bonds work ?

There is simply not enough money in the eurosystem now.

It needs a massive base money injection.

Ghordius's picture

Eh? Why? (scratching head)

When you buy a 5y or a 15y you are basing your decision on the expectations for the next years. A future which might include base money injection.

But why in all heaven's sake do you clamor for a "massive base money injection"?

THE DORK OF CORK's picture

We are told that most of the Euros debt is internal ....

If so a increase in the base money supply will just redistribute the wealth.

However more & more of Europe's wealth is being exported to Arabia & Russia for oil & Gas where there is massive consumption increases.

(Ireland must export overvalued horses to Arabia which is clearly not a efficient trade)

Europe seems incapable of taxing cars off the road given Germany's mercantile love affair with cars - given the fact that Europe is unable to come up with a rational energy strategy printing a trillion euros or so will be a more inefficient but perhaps a more brutal solution towards a rational energy policey.

 

 

Urban Redneck's picture

If Italian yields become the average in the US-zone how can US bonds work ?

There is simply not enough money in the US-system now.

It needs a massive base money injection.

virgilcaine's picture

The gay Brit at cnbc will be in an uproar over this!  Those darn traders are at it again, they have no business probing the Italians.