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It's Official: "Nuclear Fuel Has Melted Through Base Of Fukushima Plant" ... "Far Worse than a Core Meltdown"

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Washington’s Blog

The Telegraph reports today:

The
nuclear fuel in three of the reactors at the Fukushima Dai-Ichi nuclear
plant has melted through the base of the pressure vessels and is
pooling in the outer containment vessels, according to a report by the
Japanese government.

 

The findings of the report, which has
been given to the International Atomic Energy Agency, were revealed
by the Yomiuri newspaper, which described a "melt-through" as being
"far worse than a core meltdown" and "the worst possibility in a
nuclear accident."

 

***

 

The pressure vessel of the No. 1
reactor is now believed to have suffered damage just five hours
after the March 11 earthquake and tsunami, contrary to an estimation
released by Tepco, which estimated the failure at 15 hours later.

 

Melt-downs of the fuel in the No. 2 and No. 3 reactors followed over
the following days with the molten fuel collecting at the bottom of
the pressure vessels before burning through and into the external
steel containment vessels.

 

***

 

"The recovery effort
at the plant is likely to be more difficult as they will not be able
to use their previous plan to contain the fuel," Yoshiaki Oka, a
professor of nuclear science at Tokyo's Waseda University told The
Daily Telegraph.

"So it may take longer and be more difficult, but it is something they have to do.

Other portions of the Telegraph article underplay the severity of the crisis, such as:

The fuel appears to be stable at present as it is being cooled by water
pumped into the vessels, although it will complicate the emergency
recovery plan put forward by the government.

 

***

But
we now know that this happened at the very beginning of the accident,
so I see no particular additional affects on human health, he said.

Alexander Higgins notes:

The
Telegraph report once again echoes statement from TEPCO that the fuel
at the plant is now being cooled and that plant is stable. However, we
have heard the same exact statements from TEPCO day after day for
almost three months now. We heard it when there was no meltdown. and an
were assured the rods were stable so the risk of meltdown was little to
none. The media printed the statements.

 

When we were told that
there was only a partial nuclear meltdown under way and there is no
comparison between Fukushima and Chernobyl. Again, TEPCO and the media
told use there was no danger because the fuel rods were stable and
being cooled.

 

Then were found out this was in fact a level 7
incident on par with Chernobyl and were reassured the plant and fuel
rods were stable.

 

Then they reveal a full meltdown occurred at 3
reactors, and the media again reported the fuel rods were stable and
being cooled.

 

Now even with news that the nuclear lava inside the
reactor has melted through the base of 3 reactors they once again
print the same lies again that the cool rods are being effectively
cooled and are in stable condition? Should we believe them this time
after 3 months of lies?

The media is also still reporting that
there is no risk to human health in Japan. What a joke. Does anyone
seriously believe these lies?

Indeed, as NHK reported Saturday:

The
operator of the damaged Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant says steam was
observed coming out of the floor of the No.1 reactor building, and
extremely high radiation was detected in the vicinity.

***

TEPCO
said it found that steam was rising from a crevice in the floor, and
that extremely high radiation of 3,000 to 4,000 millisieverts per hour
was measured around the area. The radiation is believed to be the highest detected in the air at the plant.

TEPCO says the
steam is likely coming from water at a temperature of 50 degrees
Celsius that has accumulated in the basement of the reactor building
.

</blockquote>And Japan Times reports today:<blockquote>
The
government should consider evacuating children and pregnant women from a
wider area around the Fukushima No. 1 power plant because radiation
levels remain high even outside the 20-km no-go zone, Kumi Naidoo,
executive director of Greenpeace International, said Thursday in Tokyo.

Naidoo's
team of radiology experts found hot spots that had a maximum hourly
reading of 45 microsieverts of radiation alongside a school zone.

***

During
the news conference, Jan Beranek, an expert on radiology from
Greenpeace International who joined Naidoo's trip to Fukushima,
recommended that the government widen the evacuation zone to at least 60
or 70 km from the power plant.

He said there were parks and public spaces where the level of radiation activity hit 9 microsieverts per hour.

Even
some nursery schools that have already undergone a decontamination
process had a relatively high reading of 0.5 microsievert per hour, he
said. That would translate into an annual exposure of 5 millisieverts,
which was the evacuation threshold for Chernobyl, Beranek said.

The
government recommends a maximum intake of 1 millisievert a year during
normal times, but raises that to 20 millisieverts in times of a nuclear
accident.

Beranek recommended that people in Fukushima residing
in areas with high levels of radiation wear masks and remain inside
their homes.

Radiation from some kinds of particles "is not
something that goes away in weeks or months," he said, explaining that
some chemical elements can be absorbed into organs and bones.

While
expressing concern that the level of decontamination "hasn't been
adequate" in Fukushima, Naidoo also said he fears that people there
haven't received sufficient information from the central government.

Pointing
out that many children living near areas with high levels of radiation
are playing outdoors without proper masks, he criticized the government
for being "too slow" in explaining the risks of exposure.

 

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Fri, 06/10/2011 - 05:37 | 1357206 falak pema
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Make love not war...That is the new paradigm of the Oligarchs that GW does not WANT to hear!

But if this Oligarchical love is indecently obsessive, it is so for the right reasons...its... "We love you so much...you belong to us....body, mind and soul and this... forever onwards!"... Now that is TRUE love...

We should be thankful to this NWO of Oligarchs who lie to us every day so selflessly to protect us more and more ...from insanity and worse!

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 04:44 | 1357169 Tense INDIAN
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pEOPLE OF ALL COUNTRIES ARE JUST political PRISONERS...NOT CITIZENS

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 01:16 | 1357023 The Heart
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The criminal COVER-UP of the Fukushima radiation and failures are coming out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g3Pejmigkg

People must shine the light on the total shortcomings of the EPA/FDA/UN/NILU/NRC to protect and warn the people of the US and other countries about the hazardous radiation that is daily getting worse. It is a harsh day in Arizona, New Mexico, and Colorado today with heavier then usual amounts of radiation coming down on the entire area.

What is also not being mentioned is the UV index in the New Mexico region that is the highest in the nation. It is past the maximum level of 11 and for days has been 12, which causes skin damage after ten minutes. Does intense days like that probagate more radiation, and or do they synergize each other?

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/stratosphere/uv_index/uv_current_m...

What is urgently needed is the proper monitoring animations and plume models of the fallout clouds like the ones the NILU were doing before being ordered to stop. At least then people can know which areas and days are heavier than usual and have the foresight knowledge to warn them to stay indoors on those days like today.

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 02:12 | 1357070 majia
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the first video was "removed by user"

???

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 02:03 | 1357062 CustomersMan
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     Why Are We Paying?

 

Why are we fucking paying for Industry Hacks and Government Accomplices To LIE TO US? All this bullshit about cutting Government costs and austerity for the masses, is a scheme to dis-empower us,  and we have these people doing nothing but deceiving us,...and at a huge expense. Meanwhile all our rights, under the U.S. Constitution are being taken away. IT MUST STOP NOW.

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 00:47 | 1356996 dcb
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there is almost no differece between this, the financial crisis, and deepwater (gulf oil spill). in each instance the indistry fucked up, and the captured government has been in cover up mode ever since so people don't realize what a bunch of fuck ups their government really is and how owned by big business they are.

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 08:23 | 1357323 Escapeclaws
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Good article, George. However, it's all obvious to anyone who doesn't buy in to the propaganda we are expected to believe. It's probably a thousand times worse than your reasons would have us believe. There's no solution but to run and hide, and that will probably just buy time. Evil is in the saddle now. Run and hide. Get out while you can. Follow the example of the Jews who fled Hitler while there was still time.

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 08:31 | 1357365 falak pema
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"Woe to women who give suck in those days!"...

That would really piss off the DSK types in these hard times...no unintentional pun on the word hard...Oops, your removed it! My bad! I reacted too fast...

 

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 00:44 | 1356992 CustomersMan
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  When The World Was Hit With Stuxnet: Was the intention to drive Oil & Gas prices HIGHER, Along with a plan to control Middle East and Caspian Resources in a year or two? During this interim phase they have killed a major alternatine; Nuclear Power Systems.

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      Note That, the potential enemies (of humanity, who introduced it into the system, supposedly aimed at IRAN)... were narrowed down to the U.S. and/or Israel. It seems to have caused Germany to plan to completly dismantal Nuclear Power Plants, any reasonable person would ask why? Can't this program developed in the U.S. and/or Israel be turned off?

 

So why the dispropotional response by Germany, which has billions to lose, and who has some of the best software in the world?

 

As I see it, the German Government is still under the control of the Allies who won WW 2, (under an agreement mentioned in another posting). Therefore a move toward Oil & Gas places additional demand on Oil & Gas, which in turn creates higher prices for Oil & Gas.

 

 

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Cyberwar, Stuxnet and People in Glass Houses

The Pentagon has concluded that cyber attacks are "acts of war" and may therefore merit a full military response.

By Haroon Mee

June 08, 2011 "Al Jazeera" --   Headlines this week were provided courtesy of the Pentagon's first formal cyber strategy document which concluded "that computer sabotage coming from another country can constitute an act of war", and "opens the door for the US to respond using traditional military force".

The same article carried a widely repeated (but not clearly attributed) quote from a military official who glibly said: "If you shut down our power grid, maybe we will put a missile down one of your smokestacks."

To many who work in information security, the threat of a full military response to a cyber offensive seems disproportional - especially when many pundits were claiming that cyberwar was not even a real threat - so where did this come from and what does it mean?

Most of the established military powerhouses have long realised the internet's potential as a battleground and many have been dipping their toes tentatively into cyberwar waters for a while. The first computer worm ever unleashed on the internet (in 1988) was written by a graduate student from Cornell, whose father happened to be the chief scientist of the American National Security Agency.

Reactions to that worm spawned the computer security industry as we know it today, which in turn spawned what's becoming known as the military digital complex.

The incident in February with US defence subcontractor HBGary and Anonymous gave people a glimpse into this world and opened the eyes of many to the millions of dollars being invested in offensive computer security research. What many suspected (and a few knew) was laid open for everyone to see. Huge investments were being made in Exploits & Rootkits, essential components of any self-respecting cyberwar.

Two incidents (separated by a few months) are worth noting here.

Stuxnet

In July of 2010, a worm was discovered by a Belarusian company with some interesting payloads.

The more the worm (dubbed Stuxnet) was examined, the more interesting it became. Today we know that Stuxnet was written to target SCADA systems relating to gas centrifuges. The worm contained multiple attack vectors that were previously unknown to the world and was in some ways, technically sublime.

It ultimately targeted Iranian nuclear reactors, and some experts claim that the worm set back the Iranian Nuclear programme by as much as two years. Estimates on the cost of building the worm swing wildly but even the highball figure of several million is a far sight cheaper than the traditional weaponry that would have been needed to achieve the same result.

We may never know for sure if the worm was written by Israel or the US as most experts believe, but we do know that it was effective, and that it made it clear that attacks in cyberspace have effects in the real world.

Comodo Hack

 

 

 

Cyberwar, Stuxnet and People in Glass Houses

The Pentagon has concluded that cyber attacks are "acts of war" and may therefore merit a full military response.

By Haroon Mee

June 08, 2011 "Al Jazeera" --   Headlines this week were provided courtesy of the Pentagon's first formal cyber strategy document which concluded "that computer sabotage coming from another country can constitute an act of war", and "opens the door for the US to respond using traditional military force".

The same article carried a widely repeated (but not clearly attributed) quote from a military official who glibly said: "If you shut down our power grid, maybe we will put a missile down one of your smokestacks."

To many who work in information security, the threat of a full military response to a cyber offensive seems disproportional - especially when many pundits were claiming that cyberwar was not even a real threat - so where did this come from and what does it mean?

Most of the established military powerhouses have long realised the internet's potential as a battleground and many have been dipping their toes tentatively into cyberwar waters for a while. The first computer worm ever unleashed on the internet (in 1988) was written by a graduate student from Cornell, whose father happened to be the chief scientist of the American National Security Agency.

Reactions to that worm spawned the computer security industry as we know it today, which in turn spawned what's becoming known as the military digital complex.

The incident in February with US defence subcontractor HBGary and Anonymous gave people a glimpse into this world and opened the eyes of many to the millions of dollars being invested in offensive computer security research. What many suspected (and a few knew) was laid open for everyone to see. Huge investments were being made in Exploits & Rootkits, essential components of any self-respecting cyberwar.

Two incidents (separated by a few months) are worth noting here.

Stuxnet

In July of 2010, a worm was discovered by a Belarusian company with some interesting payloads.

The more the worm (dubbed Stuxnet) was examined, the more interesting it became. Today we know that Stuxnet was written to target SCADA systems relating to gas centrifuges. The worm contained multiple attack vectors that were previously unknown to the world and was in some ways, technically sublime.

It ultimately targeted Iranian nuclear reactors, and some experts claim that the worm set back the Iranian Nuclear programme by as much as two years. Estimates on the cost of building the worm swing wildly but even the highball figure of several million is a far sight cheaper than the traditional weaponry that would have been needed to achieve the same result.

We may never know for sure if the worm was written by Israel or the US as most experts believe, but we do know that it was effective, and that it made it clear that attacks in cyberspace have effects in the real world.

Comodo Hack

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 00:45 | 1356987 tony bonn
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this report is so anti-climatic....anyone with 3 or more brain cells knew that the plant was completely and totally compromised after the earth quake....and yet all of the bubble headed bleach blondes (all of the establishment press) lied with straight faces about minimal damage, containment, and all of the other happy horse shit which congenital liars slap around because they think people believe their lying lips...

fuck you cbs, *nbc*, cnn, foxnews, pbs, and all of your compatriots....

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 00:33 | 1356974 Jim in MN
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Nuclear lava???  Phew, that's a relief.

I thought you said nuclear larvae.  Now that's scaaaaary.

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 00:27 | 1356909 cranky-old-geezer
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I wouldn't worry much about "china syndrome" here (I guess it'd be "america syndrome" in their case). 

When core melts through pressure vessel it mixes with molten steel diluting fuel concentration and reducing criticality.  As it melts through more stuff fuel concentration is diluted futher, reducing criticality further.  Eventually it mixes with enough stuff it dilutes below criticality, fission stops, the "corium" mass cools and solidifies.

But it's still lethally radioactive ...for a few thousand years.

This is what happened at Chernobyl.  Explosion blew out reactor floor, molten fuel mixed with molten steel plus large amounts of molten sand from reactor shielding plus molten concrete as it melted thru concrete structure below reactor, quickly diluting fuel below criticality, fission stopped, the "corium" mass cooled and solidified in basement area ...where it remains today ...still lethally radioactive.

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 01:00 | 1357009 PhattyBuoy
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No.

Fuku3 is structurally different ... which prevents effective air dumping.

Chernobyl was an open crater after it blew its top ... that allowed massive dumping of dillutive materials from the air.

The total amount of materials dumped on Chernobyl was about 5 000 t including about 40 t of borons compounds, 2 400 t of lead, 1 800 t of sand and clay, and 600 t of dolomite, as well as sodium phosphate and polymer liquids (Bu93). About 150 t of material were dumped on 27 April, followed by 300 t on 28 April, 750 t on 29 April, 1 500 t on 30 April, 1 900 t on 1 May and 400 t on 2 May. About 1 800 helicopter flights were carried out to dump materials onto the reactor; During the first flights, the helicopter remained stationary over the reactor while dumping materials. As the dose rates received by the helicopter pilots during this procedure were too high, it was decide that the materials should be dumped while the helicopters travelled over the reactor.

 

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 01:22 | 1357019 cranky-old-geezer
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No.

It doesn't matter how much shit they dumped in / on / around that reactor.  Molten core was below reactor in a few hours tops, way before all that dumping ...meaning it was a complete waste of lives, helicopters, etc.

They assumed the core was still in the reactor.  When they eventually got a camera in it they were surprised to find it empty of core material.  Ccontrol rods, graphite, and all that dumped in shit were the only things they saw.

That's when they started looking for core material and found it in the basement.

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 01:32 | 1357035 PhattyBuoy
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"That's when they started looking for core material and found it in the basement" ...

That's exactly where Fuku1/2/3 are now ... and they are raging, and #3 will still be generating 5 megawatts a year from now.

 

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 10:44 | 1357366 cranky-old-geezer
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5 MW / yr is far less than decay heat from SCRAMed reactor typically yielding 500 - 700 MW per HOUR in normal operation.

It's nowhere near enough heat to keep tons of corium in molten state.  5 MW / yr wouldn't even keep it lukewarm. It would solidify and cease melting thru anything, exactly what happened at Chernobyl.  When they eventually found corium in basement areas it was diluted below critcality, cooled, solidified, yet still throwing off 3,000 - 4,000 roentgen / hr background radiation. 

3,000 roentgen / hr = 357 sievert / hr = very lethal.

By comparison a large 16 cyl CAT diesel generator can typically do 2.0 - 2.5 MW per hour. I know. I used to monitor and maintain them in 24/7 operation at a remote industrial facility.

During a scheduled turbine coast-down test Chernobly #4 reactor had been SCRAMed,   unexpectedly dropping down around 30 MW / hr, way below minimum recommended safe level of 200 MW / hr, very unstable at such low power. 

Trying to get power back up they pulled ctl rods all the way out with coolant pumps unknowingly shut off.   

Power suddenly zoomed up to 1,000 MW / hr, way over max operating parameters, with no coolant circulation, causing massive steam explosion blowing top off and blowing bottom out.

With no water left, core rapidly melted down, running out blown-out bottom, melting thru structures below, mixing with molten material till it diluted below criticality, started cooling and solidifying. 

It all happened in 12 hrs most likely.

Fukushima meltdown / pressure vessel melt-thru / fuel mixing & dilution / dropping below criticality / cooling / solidifying may have taken hours longer depending on how much coolant was circulating ...likely none... but unlikely more than 36 - 48 hrs after earthquake piping breaches and subsequent loss of coolant pump power in the tsunami.

(G)utless (W)imp does everyone a disservice with his crybaby disaster-mongering like this article, fear-hyping headlines with no engineering / scientific substance.

Yes Fukushima is far worse than Chernobyl in terms of radiation released, as I've pointed out repeatedly.  North central Japan is his-to-ry most likely.

But all this "china syndrome" fear-mongering has no engineering / scientific basis.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 22:42 | 1356780 JustACitizen
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And to think that the Japanese citizenry used to object to the U.S. having any "nuclear" ships parked in their harbors...one of the last conventional carriers that we had in the fleet was dedicated to them... Betrayed by their own...

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 22:30 | 1356752 yipcarl
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Peeps.... This strain is sad.... but damn funny you people...

I have a client who is the lead physicist at a Nuclear Power plant in California.  He was the contact for Feinstein and Boxer regarding the amount of Radiation we were recieving on the Pacific Coast and their contact to questions about the disaster.  He seems think this is not a big deal.  He says the fish will be tested and the ground water as well.  Of course many of you know there are several different life spans if you will for radiation(I'm not scientist) and my client said much of the cesism of whatever he called it has an 8 day half life and the ocean is SO big that it's easily diluted....etc.  He did say that the 30k year stuff has escaped but the concentration is super important and again it's highly diluted.   Anyway half of me thinks he's jaded, not lying, but jaded because the Nuclear industry supports him, but I'm not sure, he's the physicist.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 22:16 | 1356728 kekekekekekeke
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So I'm flying to Tokyo on Saturday

I'm bringing potassium iodide and zeolite any other suggestions please?

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 07:57 | 1357308 onthesquare
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if you have 'boys' to protect a lead jock

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 23:07 | 1356851 TheMerryPrankster
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avoid the suishi and any fish. If you are just going for a few days, enjoy yourself and just figure the odds are on your side.

If you are going to be there for a while secure a two month supply of dried noodles, 120 gallons of distilled water, a battery/solar/crank am/fm/shortwave radio, flashlights, batteries, candles, matches, lighters and a couple of good maps of the area and plot out an evacuation route that you can do on foot as well as by car.

Your main worries are a sizable aftershock, that fucks up the fuel pool on the #4 reactor as well as breeching remaining containment on the other reactors.

A typhoon bringing radioactive dust into the city.

and lastly a totally new earthquake on the fault south of Tokyo which seems to be overdue by at least 25 years, but what are our years to the eons of the earth?

Good luck and enjoy yourself, it really is a beautiful country and most of the people are very nice.

 

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 01:22 | 1357030 kekekekekekeke
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thank you. I'm only going to be in Tokyo for a day or two- I'm spending the rest of the 2 weeks near Kyoto.  I'm bringing some boxes of energy bars to eat (I'm on a tight budget but I figure this will help limit my ingestion of contaminated food)

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 01:44 | 1357045 HungrySeagull
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Koyto is a nice area. I have learned from Sensei about that area years ago.

Okinawa is as well.

Consider wearing a respitory mask that filters out particles while in Tokyo. Real ones, not the paper on a rubber band kind. Bring a Radalert from Gonzales Texas (Availible online) to ensure when you return home to the USA, you are not bring in contaminats to your home and family. Or better yet, just come home wearing the clothes on your back.

 

Good luck!

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 09:24 | 1357550 falak pema
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BTW you can still have sex with japanese women in spite of Fuk U scare. So all is not lost on that island...

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 23:04 | 1356846 Vic Vinegar
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Take the zeolite every day for sure.  Bentonite is another good one. 

It would be great if you could provide an update when you are there/when you get back as to what the mood is like in Tokyo. 

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 01:23 | 1357028 kekekekekekeke
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will do! thanks for the advice

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 22:10 | 1356726 blunderdog
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I know this is all pretty serious, but I can't get myself upset about it because it appears to be pretty well out of human control.  We are, of course, all going to die, and although I would prefer it not be because a nuke plant melted down, I realize I don't get to make those decisions. 

That said, I find the fact that there's a "Jan Beranek" mentioned just a tad bit reminiscent of Buckaroo Banzai and his adventures across the eighth dimension.  In the movie, it was simpler--all the aliens were John.

But what if the real-life aliens are a bit more subtle?  Ben Bernanke, Jan Beranek, Jen Berkane, Don Berneak, etc.

That would be creepy.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 21:58 | 1356697 tim73
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GW, the village idiot continues his series of stupid comments about Fukushima.

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 01:50 | 1357048 HungrySeagull
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I will not dignify your comment with a retort. Even idiots, savants and slightly insane people are very useful in battle or other situations where life is on the line.

We all have to die sometimes, radiation is a preventable death as far as I am concerned.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 21:45 | 1356662 HungrySeagull
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I say we should have demo'ed the plant with a underground nuclear detonation and a second one to punch the rubble down so the ocean will fill the hole.

 

But no everyone laughed at me for being stupid.

Now they get to live a life of hell and death by sickness in a radaition world worse than Chenobyl.

I hate to say it but I told you so.

 

Action on the first week was necessary. Now we have lost all this time, the future is lost and what a tragic waste.

Japan had a lost decade, now they stand to discover a lost generation.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 21:44 | 1356658 Buck Johnson
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I mad comment about this a few months ago during this calamity.  I said that by the time they finally say uncle, 2/3 or more of Japan will become uninhabitable.  That radioactive lava is going into the ground and the ground water and it will start to poison much more of the environment quickly if not cause a superheated explosion with radiation.

 

 

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 21:37 | 1356653 SYantiss
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I hear China has a lot of nice, empty, cities... Mayhap the Japanese move there?

I still wonder why those cities were built... Oh, wait... No I don't.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 21:19 | 1356617 zorba THE GREEK
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 I thought when you had a nuclear meltdown, the fuel rods heated up until they melted thru the concrete floor and kept on melting thru the earth until they hit water. at that point they turned the water into instant steam which exploded back up and into the atmosphere and contaminated everything in a 200 mi radius, like at Gernoble. Is this what's about to happen in Japan?

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 23:21 | 1356881 TheMerryPrankster
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The fuel rods are clad with zirconium which helps them retain there shape. When they get really hot and meet sea water the cladding erodes producing hydrogen gas, the rods lose their shape, slump and pool together in the bottom of the inner vessel. This mix of zirconium, uranium, and assorted other materials is referred to as "corium" and is very hot, several thousand degrees and will melt through steel as is now obvious.

right now the corium is thought to be out of the steel chambers and lying on the concrete floor, which spreads the corium over more surface area making it easier to cool and more difficult for it to burn through the concrete, however to keep it cool they are pouring lots of water over it which is becoming radioactive and seeping into the ocean and likely the groundwater. radioactive sewage has been discovered in nearby sewer systems confirming this.

The situation is at present stable but still producing a lot of radiation, that could change if another large earthquake occurs or a substantial aftershock.

No one really knows what will happen at Fukushima. This is a science experiment in action. The best case is eventually the corium cools down enough to allow entombment in concrete in about a year or so. Worst case is difficult to cacluate as there is just so many things that could go so wrong.

 

Likely the Japanese population will have an increase in cancer and suicides. The seafood industry may be destroyed and there manufacturing deeply damaged. Financially they are already boned, but it can certainly get worse.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 21:05 | 1356581 hambone
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Amazing - Japan -  now - is considering if it should move those folks nearby plant?  Folks living w/in 20miles who have been utterly radiated!?!...reminds me of Jaws when the bad chamber of commerce wouldn't shut down the beach cause they didn't want to cause a panic...nice that reality now mirrors movies.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/japan-considers-evacuating-more-towns-wsj-2011-06-09?link=MW_home_latest_news

 

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 00:39 | 1356982 StychoKiller
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Read "An Enemy of the Public" -- Henrik Ibsen

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 20:57 | 1356560 SilverSly1
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People still believe OJ is innocent because the glove didn't fit. Obviously people will believe anything...

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 20:14 | 1356432 MrSteve
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This should permanently eliminate any concept of "peaceful use of nuclear energy". Somehow the youth of the world knew that Homer Simpson's skill level and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles were really a time machine's projection of their future.

Perhaps a People's Tribune could call TEPCO to trial for crimes against humanity. There appears to be so many innocent victims of their operations that nothing less seems appropriate.

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 07:48 | 1357299 onthesquare
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I was only following orders.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 22:24 | 1356747 Fiat Money
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how about including that "star jewel in the gs, jpm, fed financial 'genius' crown" GE ??   or do they get a "Bhopal FREE PASS" ??

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 20:05 | 1356379 Heroic Couplet
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Common sense goes a long way: you could watching the duration of the shaking and KNOW that anything nuclear was going to be damaged beyond belief

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 22:35 | 1356765 Fiat Money
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unfortunately, (common sense did NOT go)

...far enough:  a nation FULL of  Electrical Engineering GENIUSES (sony, toshiba, fuji, canon, nikon, etc.)

...and all those U.S. MILITARY  EE experts (including nuclear engineers on US carriers and other nuke-powered ships based in Japan)    DID NOT  GET OFF THEIR ASSES quick enough, to  RIG UP a TEMPORARY electric GENERATOR GRID -  after the Tsunami.  

   HOW could a nation full of such top-flight engineers, NOT REALIZE that you've got NUCLEAR REACTORS with NO POWER to run their critical  cooling pumps ??!

   

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 22:36 | 1356764 Fiat Money
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(duplicate)

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 19:51 | 1356323 nasa
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Is it time to call it an eight yet? 

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 19:41 | 1356296 Camtender
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"China Syndrome" Bitches...........

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 19:37 | 1356280 Everybodys All ...
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Unbelievable ... keep up the good work GW.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 19:30 | 1356223 zen0
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"Lest those days be shortened, no flesh shall remain alive"

 

.....somewhere in the Bible

 

Plants handle radiation fairly well. Flesh not so much.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 19:21 | 1356196 MGA_1
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Not a worst case scenario - that's if it hits groundwater and explodes.  This is still bad

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