Japanese Metropolitan Radiation Readings Spike Once Again, As Wind Turns Toward Land

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Sun, 03/20/2011 - 17:55 | 1079601 Malcolm Tucker
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AMAZING speech by a brave Iraq war veteran. So inspiring!


I can see clearly now...

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 18:09 | 1079624 Ahmeexnal
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Nice speech. Let's see if it evolves from there. Or if it ends in just another speech.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 18:15 | 1079641 mrgneiss
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What happened to the other radiation post?  It looked interesting and I didn't get a chance to read it..................did the MIT legal dept. call by chance?

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 23:51 | 1080581 dick cheneys ghost
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for those who have not seen it, National Radiation Map, updated every minute. We have moved the blog.......



Mon, 03/21/2011 - 03:13 | 1080871 herewego...
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True, radioactive rain in that area is something to worry about. Folks should stay indoors and keep windows closed. This is not your usual scaremongering, and those simple measures will help.

But please note: IN THAT AREA. Not elsewhere.

BBC - Japan nuclear threat: The tsunami is the bigger tragedy

By David Spiegelhalter, Professor of the Public Understanding of Risk, Cambridge University


Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:21 | 1081336 Bicycle Repairman
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"BBC - Japan nuclear threat: The tsunami is the bigger tragedy"

No doubt it is, but the tsunami damage is the rug under which the nuclear damage will be swept.  Act of G-d.  What are ya gonna do?

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 18:49 | 1079740 Golden monkey
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Faggot voiced. Should join the secret service, to provide Obama close "protection".

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 19:59 | 1079923 Bob
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I don't know if that's in any way representative, but I find it interesting to see that the "experts" being hawked as representatives of good judgment on nuclear risks by the corporate media are technical experts.  Nerds. 

I don't think nerds are the people I want making decisions profoundly affecting people, knowhutimean? 

Technocrats have little rightful role in decisions like those.  They tend to be freaks--even the ones who aren't sock puppets of sociopathic corporate interests. 

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 20:07 | 1079952 Flakmeister
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Catch-22 my friend... Anyone who is capable of commenting on the techical aspects appears to be compromised in your view.

Be careful not to paint with too broad a brush....

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 20:26 | 1079992 Bob
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What is acceptable risk for society is not a technical decision is what I'm saying.  They're being thrust onto the podium as if they operate upon some superior scale and speak for higher social consciousness by virtue of technical knowledge.  I was being tongue in cheek about nerds . . . until I really thought about it. 

Sorry, I've known too many Ph.D.'s. 

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 22:00 | 1080306 beanieville
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Ph.D. Jim Berkland:

Massive earthquake to hit California between march 19 to 26.


Mon, 03/21/2011 - 00:27 | 1080642 Flakmeister
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I've noticed a big difference between public and private Ph.Ds... The private ones sold their soul to a certain extent, esp. if they are working any where near their field... The academics are much more in tune with your line of thought..

All the time, keeping in mind, the brush is fairly large.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:24 | 1081343 Bicycle Repairman
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Catch-22?  Hardly.  The technical details are trivia in the end.  Those who know such details are obviously part of the system and are completely and irreparably biased.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:29 | 1081363 Flakmeister
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You do have strong opinions on things you know nothing about... You are a poster boy for the Downing Effect....

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 20:09 | 1079953 barkingbill
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go to afghanistan yourself monkey boy and maybe some friendly fire will put an end to your arrogance. 

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 18:51 | 1079746 reader2010
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He couldn't understand they need perpetual wars for profit$. War is peace.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 19:58 | 1079924 oh_bama
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QE!! ONLY QE can save JAPAN!!


Sun, 03/20/2011 - 21:19 | 1080164 Gimp
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Good speech but the question is nothing has changed in the last 1,000+ years. The elite always get the  poor, working class stiffs to fight the wars. War to the wealthy means one thing - transfer of assets -   now get out and vote every election and let's keep replacing the bums in office till we get somebody decent.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 18:00 | 1079603 Dr. Porkchop
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Blowback bitchez!

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 18:04 | 1079607 M4570D0N
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Those figures (30-90nGy/h) are essentially harmless. That is not a high amount. At all. 30nGy/h = 0.000003 rem/h

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 18:06 | 1079621 nwskii
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spoken like a true politician, next your going to say that radioactive iodine in my water is good for me

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 19:12 | 1079803 Brother can you...
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It is, if they mix it just right with the flouride, it's tastes like kool-aid... yummmmy

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 20:12 | 1079956 M4570D0N
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Ok, genius. Show me how that level is harmful.

A nuclear plant worker is not allowed to have more than 5 rem/year exposure. That's 0.000570776 rem/hr, or 190 times more than 30nGy/h and 63 times more than 90nGy/h.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 20:35 | 1080028 d_senti
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Obviously no one thinks those levels (which are just background) are harmful. The concern is about the areas where they've shown 4000 ngy/h. If they SHOW that level, then what would you guess the level is in the "under survey" prefectures? You say correctly that around 5700/hr is the harmful threshold, and we can be certain that it's been over 4000 in at least 3 prefectures for days. That's the real issue, genius. Elementary math skills aren't all that's required to understand what's happening there.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 21:43 | 1080262 Cursive
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Fuck your analysis of the readings.  If Japanese passengers deplaning at O'Hare set off radioactivity alarms, that's enough for me.  Oh, and just for good measure, China is sending back planes to Japan because the readings are too great.  That's not a win for the Nipponese.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 00:27 | 1080647 Flakmeister
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I set off the scanner once at a lab once, 1 week after I had a bone scan. The dectectors are very good...

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 22:01 | 1080313 LeBalance
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/anology ON/

I have in my hand a small speck of shit.  I dissolve it in a bucket of water and you drink it over several days.  But the fun part is; I never told you about the shit.

How much shit would you really prefer eating?

Some, alot, or zero?

/anology OFF/

Got Beef?

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 22:48 | 1080444 herewego...
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Heh, love the anology. Is that why you sleep alone?

Sleeping next to someone is 0.05 Silverts radiation.


Sun, 03/20/2011 - 23:30 | 1080527 MSimon
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Shit is part of food. Don't like it? Stop eating.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 19:16 | 1079804 Bob
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I suspected as much and when Tyler acknowledged that it was not material, I was glad I didn't have to bother doing the conversion.  I think the operative variable in his analysis is the wind, whose whims effectively determine radiation concentrations.  Even if that particular data set is legit.  Another major venting of radiation at the plants on a day when the wind is not friendly will likely be a much worse day in Tokyo. 

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 19:22 | 1079826 Judge Judy Scheinlok
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I believe Tyler puts it out there for us to digest.

Some do not believe the official number that are being released. Some have proof that they are fictitious.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 19:27 | 1079842 Yen Cross
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fictitious Judy! Party time.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 19:36 | 1079864 Bob
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People quibble when they're small.  Tens of thousands of people in metro Tokyo are wearing personal dosimeters.  This is a culture where people wearing surgical masks on a good day of summer draw no looks--because they're actually common.  In combination with such locals, there are the western corporate media hawkers who are wearing them on air (and they are still on air from Tokyo.)  When concentrations/levels become material, the word will get out quick. 

But if you watch the plant drama and know the winds, it gets real simple. 

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 21:41 | 1080195 herewego...
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NW Pacific Wind Chart


Some more wind data for y'all. Winds are blowing generally away from Tokyo. Though further south the winds are, at the moment, going against the prevailing east to west direction.

What we are dealing with here is prevailing winds caused by the rotation of the Earth. These generally blow away from Tokyo.


Additionally, the radiation levels are so small outside of a 20k radius (aside from occasional spikes) that Tokyo is not and will not be in danger, even if the Earth suddenly starts spinning the other way round and Tokyo gets a constant breeze from the plant.

Can we stop blowing the alarmist trumpet now? Even the MSM has moved on now they have something else to get their page-views from.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 23:01 | 1080475 Oligarchs Gone Wild
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Whenever I need meteorological data in the future, I'll make sure I bookmark magicseaweed.com, your first stop in wind forecasting products. 

I am Cowabunga dude.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 18:27 | 1079684 Oligarchs Gone Wild
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Winds definitely showing out of the Northeast, more real time data w/ wind direction.


Sun, 03/20/2011 - 19:33 | 1079854 Yen Cross
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Putin Jailed all of them. Or he used umbrellas to inject radioactive isotopes into his adversaries. Love that Red(water based) paint on the Kremlin. Does it come with the matching Siberian Tiger?

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 18:06 | 1079615 Rockfish
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Nothing like a slow low drip of Rads, you won't even notice the build up.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 18:06 | 1079616 Jim in MN
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It was ad seeing the chief of the Tokyo Fire Department choke up (not weep like the TEPCO director) as he said "I am very sorry for the families left behind."  The cream of the country's largest fire department is being sacrificed to try to save the Kanto Plain (Japan's largest arable/buildable area) from significant contamination.  Along with the TEPCO workers.

Best of luck to them.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 18:06 | 1079623 Rockfish
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+1000 Heros.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 18:12 | 1079627 cossack55
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Too bad Lloyd is doing "Gods work".  I guess these poor schlubs are doing "BoJs" work. Bankers need to die soon(radiation sickness has a kind of happy karma ring).

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 21:57 | 1080303 herewego...
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Thanks for the heads up on the Kanto Plain - it looked like an agri centre but I couldn't be sure. 

Back of the envelope calculations I made before this new data suggests a loss of 50% of that region's agriculture due to saltwater inundation. This will reduce rice production in the short term at a time when the price is going up anyway. Looks like even more of Thailand's rice will go to Japan.

You are right about the workers and firemen being heroes, and the sacrifice they are making.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 18:06 | 1079619 PY-129-20
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Japan nuclear crisis: 'Fukushima Fifty' cut off from family


Sun, 03/20/2011 - 18:07 | 1079620 Boilermaker
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Futures are UP and climbing, of course.  The world's largest city becoming a toxic wasteland is great for equities.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 18:13 | 1079637 Larry Darrell
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Not just futures up on worthless dollar.

Silver got a nice opening bid.


Sun, 03/20/2011 - 18:13 | 1079642 Boilermaker
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One makes perfect sense and one doesn't.  I'll wager that the TSE also goes up.  In fact, just take that wager across the board on literally everything.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 18:22 | 1079672 A Man without Q...
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I think it's a bank holiday in Japan today, but the boys in Sydney have the futures up a good 2%.  The financial markets continue to wage battle against reality - Sunday night is always their favorite time.

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