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Jared Lee Loughner's YouTube Site Reveals Clues About The Killer, Lists Mein Kampf And Communist Manifesto Among Favorite Books
Details emerge about the shooter Jared Loughner., pictured below. In addition to numerous details about his life, such as his favorite books, among which are The Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf, we find the following suicide video. Incidentally his MySpace site has already been taken down.
And from his personal details per his YouTube page:
school: Thornydale elementary,Tortolita Middle School, Mountain View
Highschool, Northwest Aztec Middle College, and Pima Community College.
favorite books: Animal Farm, Brave New World, The Wizard Of OZ, Aesop
Fables, The Odyssey, Alice Adventures Into Wonderland, Fahrenheit 451,
Peter Pan, To Kill A Mockingbird, We The Living, Phantom Toll Booth, One
Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, Pulp,Through The Looking Glass, The
Communist Manifesto, Siddhartha, The Old Man And The Sea, Gulliver's
Travels, Mein Kampf, The Republic, and Meno.
Lastly, here is a picture of Loughner, via azstarnet.com (h/t Doug Ross)
And below is a screengrab of his MySpace page before it was taken down, via @jhlaing
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go to uploaded videos this is bizarre!!!!!1
http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10#p/u/4/E8Wr6AeZTCE
W T F was that?
Here is the MySpace page before it was taken down:
http://fedupmontrealer.blogspot.com/2011/01/jared-loughners-myspace-page-before-it.html
Loughner was in an AZ court in 2008:
http://fedupmontrealer.blogspot.com/2011/01/loughner-in-court-in-2008.html
he seemed well read, more then Palin, i bet†
He may have read some books, but judging by his videos his command of the English language was not impressive. Another damaged vet...
well who cares, he sounds good to me†
It is now reported that he tried to join the US Army but they denied him.
He had a criminal drug conviction. My guess is the Army did not want him. High school friends said he is/was a pot head. He was into flag burning and no Tea Party member is interested in flag burning because it is infantile or reading The Communist Manaifesto or Mein Kampf. The NY Times spews the same crap anyway particularly Frank Rich.
that you tube page is BS... but you ate it up pretty well.. i guess they did their job
Poor guy's grasp of English is so weak, talking about his grammatical errors is a waste of time. Compare Ted K., the Unibomber.... now there was a man with a considered opinion and an art for expressing it. (See back issue of Wired for his "Manifesto".)
Jared Lee seems like a dimwit. I don't think he's "crazy" (whatever that means). He's just a confused simpleton - presumably, a highly pissed one.
But I don't like the way our media masters feel they have to shield us from the facts. Though I guess a big deal will be now made of Mein Kampf and Marx. Very spicy tidbit, that, I guess.
BTW, the Okie bomber was interviewed by genius author Gore Vidal, I think. (Or at least Vidal wrote a good book about McVeigh.)
I think it was Vidal who said that in the US we have a free press ... but only for those who own a printing press.
May the gods bless Vidal with a much longer life. (He's old and frail, now.)
Why am I even talking about Jared Lee? The entire world is going down the shitter and we will hear only about this lone shooter until some new sensation arises.
I've really enjoyed the discussion of this and other matters at ZH. Very high caliber stuff. Thanks! Long live Zero. There's hope for the nation, yet. (A very small bit of hope.)
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Where I come from we normally assume someone is crazy when they shoot into a crowd of people. If this is a measure of how pissed simpletons behave, then we're all in a shit load of trouble.
George:
I'm much amused.
But yes, I'm afraid we are in a shit load of trouble.
If you had talked to Jared on the day before, I bet you'd have taken him to be just another a mixed up kid.
Where I come from (S.F.), there are some real loonies. And when I meet them, I have few doubts about the correct classification.
Understatement of the millennium.
I think that is called word salad.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_salad
He's schizophrenic. That is the long and short of it.
yep, funking stark raving bonkers.
So, then he was a Krugmanite?
Mentally ill. I suppose it could have been that he missed the balancing impact of Atlas Shrugged, but I doubt even that could have saved him.
Wait a second. On another thread, I was told that he was solely inspired by Fox News and Glenn Beck. Turns out he's just another mentally ill, deranged madman. Hmmm, sorry that doesn't fit the Krugman narrative.
He happens to be crazy. That doens't excuse Glen Beck.
Yeah, he started his own currency. He's crazy like a central banker.
Lol
+1
The mind controller one was really freaky
Yes, but there's a slip there. He "studied grammar" but he uses "you're" for "your." Twice.
Grammar Nazi alert.
Er, no, just pointing out that a person who lists "studied grammar" as a descriptor would most likely not make a simple error twice and post it in a video for weeks without going back and doing an edit.
I see reports here and there that someone from the crowd fired at the shooter, but missed. I find that interesting.
Where's the 2nd Amendment supporters now?
'Spose that'd have a lot more weight if the guy who missed had practiced a little more.... LOL!
Right here. I imagine if more people in the area had been armed, he would have been hit before he got as many people as he did.
In a way, I'm glad he's unharmed. I want to hear what this guy was thinking.
Which you never will. Same story with timothy mcveigh. Under the guise that his giving interviews would sensationalize it or he would profit or benefit from it.
Your job is to be a bad judge without the whole story. Thier job is to make money and sell newspapers and tv ad time with the superficial cliff notes and analysis from "experts" or people close to this or close to that providing the judgement for you. You're going to be an ego extension of the powers that be through their media outlets whether you like it or not.
Don't fear. In the end you'll be told who to feel sorry for and why and who to be angry at and why.
Thank you for giving me hope that there are people out there that get it!
he will "die" in prison and surface in paraguay with new id and bank account...
will it be with his new currency and name and symbol?? those vids are such a fuckin plant
Wow, I thought I was the ultimate skeptic ;)
You're spot-on, in my estimation.
unfortunately it is working like a charm... just look how 99.99% of the people are reacting and overreacting to this
They, being the Sheepeople... dont see it.. dont get it... and can not comprehend it... God Bless You! for trying to enlighten them... but at best it is an up hill battle and at worst a lost cause.
The ignorant, poor child... shot an evil doer... plain and simple.
The guy shot and killed a 9 year old, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Nothing wrong with him. There were number of kids in Sodom and Gomorrah. So what? They did not survive. Why? Because there were no 10 righteous people there:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodom_and_Gomorrah
"God reveals to Abraham that he will investigate Sodom and Gomorrah, because their cry is great, "and because their sin is very grievous."[20:21] In response, Abraham reverently inquires of God if he would spare the city if 50 righteous people were found in it, then 45, then 40, then 30, then 20 or even 10, with God affirming he would not destroy it after each request, for the sake of the righteous yet dwelling therein."
USA does not have EVEN ONE righteous human. If God have decided to punish USA for an oil and computer idolatries, He probably can use their own words from pharisees:
"49But one of them, Caiaphas, who was high priest that year, said to them, ‘You know nothing at all! 50You do not understand that it is better for you to have one man die for the people than to have the whole nation destroyed.’"
It does not matter how many semi-brained, digital-brained, half-brained etc people the Angel of God will direct to WARN the ex-USA.
Maybe this extreme event will force Obama's gang to think TWICE before continuing their "policy".
No word salad here, you're a different brand of bat-shit-crazy.
Please, sir, be more specific. What do You mean "crazy"?
Maybe the view I have expressed here is different from the "democracy" mantras You have been listening from the lips of TV parrots, lips of thief President of USA G.W. Bush?
If what is different from all those semi-truth and the straight lies You, sir, simply call "crazy", I prefer to be "crazy".
Any other suggestions?
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I'm one. I'm right here and completely support people carrying. If there was one or more carrying there, perhaps they wouldn't have had to wait for him to empty his weapon before being tackled. If there was an alert and packing person(s), perhaps this bat-shit crazy, section-8.666, stark-raving-mad, grade-A, Number one, Ichi-ban, crazy motherfucker wouldn't have gotten a shot off, wounding anyone, much less killing a child. Maybe he would have thought twice knowing that entering an area where a large %age of people could be carrying would be a bad idea, and thus never went to commit this heinous act.
Controlling guns only controls law abiding citizens. So go fuck yourself six ways to saturday and twice on sunday (sideways).
No it would not have been prevented the murder. One man in Wa state shot and killed 4 police officers having coffee in Lakewood, Wa. He suffered a wound and escaped. Incidents like this occur so quickly there is little to no time to defend.
Poor example - police are thinking "Offense". Citizen carrying is thinking "Defense". Unless the shooter is a seasoned practitioner, the time they take to aim/fire/aim - would give plenty of time for a defensive minded practitioner to draw, aim and shoot before 4 well placed shots are made by the bad guy.
+1. For some reason, law-abiding citizens who don't own a weapon can't comprehend that....
+1 and perfectly put UGrev.
The fact is that nobody armed or not, likely could have stopped him from shooting the first few people -- even armed to the teeth, the element of surprise is in the assailants favor. The fact Arizona is a state that allows concealed carry, didn't seem to deter him much. I for one do not feel safer in a situation where everyone is carrying a gun, all it takes is for an armed person to have a bad day & it's lights out for some innocent victim.
I believe it's open carry. you need a permit for concealed carry
"Starting later this summer [2010], U.S. citizens 21 and older can begin carrying a concealed firearm without a permit in Arizona." http://www.azcentral.com/news/election/azelections/articles/2010/04/16/2...
And as an Arizona resident, it doesn't bother me at all whether law abiding people carry openly or concealed. And criminals won't obey the law anyway.
Carry laws are not designed to make you feel more or less safe. I personally couldn't carry any less how safe you feel when I carry a handgun. The point of the law is that I feel safer carrying, and if you were willing to dedicate the time and money to become proficient with a handgun, you too, could feel safer carrying.
I agree with posters above that if multiple persons had been carrying at the rally, in all liklihood, one of their bullets would have found the shooter and stopped his rampage sooner.
I'm just kidding with you. In my early days of blogging I used to get a lot of that. Now I'm more mindful of checking grammar and spelling before I post thanks to people who point out these kinds of errors. I'm still not perfect though. IE7 pro is the add-on I use to check my spelling.
No worries; carry on.
is ur avatar a picture of pelosi?
Yes, I made the bandit eyes with PC Paint.
So, Pelosi "normally" runs around in white face and green hair, then? Who knew! :>D
Very astute, I just suppose he had other things "on his mind"!
Just like half here on ZH. The clincher is "teh" for the.
He was definitely not all there .
It appears to be some sort of rap/poetry, but I'll be damned if I can figure out what he's trying to say.
Nice. Got it before the Feds were able to take it down and spin it.
Pre-crime is not a real crime, but they will try to make pre-crime a real crime with this incident.
+1... Exactly.
Notice His Pro Gold (Anti Fed?) Position
Your (You're) a Domestic Terrorist, I'm a Domestic Terrorist, Were (We're) ALL Domestic Terrorists...
Sorry... I just wanted to cover myself grammar wise...
Some countries have thought crimes.
Lex mala, lex nulla.
Bad law is no law.
My thoughts exactly
The Daily Kos put a Bullseye on her in 2008 that's pretty bizarre too.
http://hillbuzz.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/screen-shot-2011-01-08-at-3-05-33-pm.png
Yeah, but you know Marcus Kos is way too busy drinking Obummer-Greenshoots-Lime Kool-Aid to do anything but urinate...
Thats was WEIRD!!!
It's so strange it makes no sense. He's making new coins and currency!!! WTF!!
Too bad he didn't pop Pelosi.
Damn. He is either over qualified for Fed Chairman, or more qualifed for TreasSec than the tax cheat currently imbezzling his ass off.
super creepy. even creepier is his whole profile info is in the past tense
fake -- who the hell posts such a one dimensional rant and makes sure to have his name on there TWICE on his profile and in the videos.. if he wanted to be KNOWN why hide in the burning flag video?? cause that wasnt him
wow. He is either completely off the reservation, the page/content is not really his, or he is way over my head. Or some combination of the three.
What do our elected public servants expect to happen to them when they manufacture utter hopelessness for such a large scale of our population?
20%+ unemployment. Families being foreclosed on by the millions. No hope of productive prosperous lives for millions of young people. 43+ million people on food stamps. Out of control inflation in the price of education, healthcare, food and energy, etc.
Bailouts and laws passed to benefit the rich wealthy elite and special interests. Putting we the people under a constant state of surveillance, getting the US into senseless wars killing and maiming many of our men on the battlefield and bankrupting our country chasing the boogieman.
Public servants refusing to discuss real issues of importance to many of us like the controlled demolition of building 7. Agenda 21, Codex Alimentarius, the police state feeling us up and irradiating us at airports, leaving the corporate controlled media in charge of the talking point memos and continually trying to socially engineer freedom out of our lives, etc.
Our elected servants have given the American people more than enough reasons to take matters into our own hands exacting our own form of justice because our government delivers none on our behalf. No banksters jailed for fraud and ruining our economy and our lives etc.
The French people had a unique way to deal with unruly public servants, guillotines! It will come to guillotines and the killing of many more public servants if they don't get on the side of Main Street Americans real soon and respect our Constitution.
The American people need no more reasons, given to us by our elected servants, to take matters into our own hands. It is amazing we have been so restraind, giving them the benefit of the doubt for so long. No more. What is going to happen now has been 100% expected and there is nothing the control freak government can do about it.
What do they expect? When people lose everything, they lose it.
to MICHAEL ..... that was an excellent comment. i loved it. ........ i'm worried about my children & grandchildren.......... so worried. they do not understand. i try to explain things to them, that it's NOT their fault. unfortunately, the young people have been brainwashed over the past 25 years to "trust government". OBAMA was deliberately placed in his presidential position because he was so smooth, so trustworthy ...... what an outright scam & fraud.
+1
Regarding the videos:
1) In one video, he states "I wouldn't pay any debts that aren't denominated in gold and silver". Hence, he is clearly an advocate of a bimetallic (gold/silver) backed currency. Obviously he is therefore against fiat currencies. Therefore, logically, he would have to be against the USD. Therefore, he would probably also be against its issuer, the Federal Reserve, and its distributor, the US Treasury.
2) In the linked page above, the video both tries to illustrate that something is zero and can go to one, can also go to two and there. If it can go to 3, it can go to 700 billion and 4 trillion as well. He mentions that the time series of A.D.E. never ends. The question is, will the issuance of currency never end.
3) He is dreaming about a new currency. He says that there are only 5% dreamers in America. This implies that he concludes that a majority does not think this way. Combine that with his interest in the Animal Farm. It is not a stretch to conclude that the rest of the 95% using the old currency are living on the animal farm.
4) He illustrates that creating a currency is extremely simple. Anyone who can construct their own grammar can do it, so to speak.
5) He is "thinking of adding the 1 new symbol to the current alphabet". To that, most people would respond, 'well that's crazy, why would you add another letter'. But at the same time, most people accept that new money is added to the money supply. So, if it is crazy to add a new letter to the alphabet, then wouldn't it be crazy to add new money to the money supply?
6) He uses the phrase "unconstitutional money". Coinage act anyone?
7) He distinguishes distributing a currency "lethally" and "non-lethally" to people. The notion of competing means of debt payment comes to mind here.
Good analysis.
Jared may have been psychotic, but the frontier between madness and intelligence is often slight.
He studied grammar and found out that grammar contains factual elements. He saw them everywhere. Most of his points are built on the same pattern, the one you underline.
Notice though that the pattern is rejected when he moved to a US army boot camp. The Army built its own grammar of reality when handing out that mini bible but the killer did not fit in.
Will probably be sold as a deranged. Looks more like a guy who got overwhelmed by what he discovered. James Isaac Newton, for example, got overwhelmed by what he discovered, leading him to see the world organized only around what he discovered.
Was Newton a psychotic? I dont know.
shut up you daft twat.
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Yeah, well "The Wizard of Oz" and "Aesop Fables" are pretty subversive as well.
"I think this boy's cheese has slipped off his cracker."
line from "The Green Mile."
Just another psychotic demon that has exploded in violence.
He sounds like he's been reading your shit CD.
So you and Jared are my two readers? I never would have guessed.
So when are you going off the deep end? Oh sorry, you already did, hence the "scratch_and_sniff" moniker. I thought you were restricted from hanging around the ladies room last year as part of your probation?
I thought his probation said no contact with minors and stay 1000 feet from a school or daycare?
He jumped me on one of my posts. What's the troll edicate here? Do I have to check him out with my library card to use him or do we just let him decide who he gets to troll?
"Etiquette" lessons aside, scratch_and_sniff hit the nail on the head:
And since the subject of “probation” has been raised, pot meets kettle:
(Emphasis added to both.)
Case closed.
Case closed indeed.
So you're the guy who complained to mommy Marla about my article. I laughed when Marla told me that someone complained and that she handled it as she normally does, by telling them ZH isn't under the jurisdiction of the US government and to go pound sand.
Thanks for pulling my words out of context. Humor and sarcasm are your friend you know. Now we all know who's a paid agent around here because this is classic psyops technique. Anyone who saves comments that can be retrived as needed has a rip roaring agenda. Keep filling that black ops database honey bun. Someday you'll hit the jackpot and make the big time as disinformation agent of the week.
you're a sitcom just waiting to happen CD.
You're so transparent it's hilarious SS. But keep up the good work. It must be very rewarding.
Im talking to you from the flight deck of the brotherhood of man here CD, and broadcasting the following message through my antenna;
-.-. .... .. .-.. .-.. / - .... . / ..-. ..- -.-. -.- / --- ..- - / -.. ..- -.. .http://morsecode.scphillips.com/jtranslator.html
Oh look it's a piece of shit with specially crafted lying tools. So is this what the information technology revolution was all about? Making the world a better place for liars.
Maybe I'm a sarcastic European, but adding Mein Kampf at the end of the a of books of which half of them are children stories tells me he was being funny and just wanted to trigger a reaction from anybody who would see it.
The fact they focus on that one is pretty silly.
ps: In my silver collection I have all the silver 2 & 5 Hindenburg coins which all have a Nazi swastica. I also have a large bronze plate which has the written speech of Hiterl at Nürenberg from 1937 with the autograph of Adolph Hitler which used to hang at the entrance at Nürenberg during the war.
I also have 1 of the silver birthday coins that Hindenburg had made for Hitler from 1938. For the rest, I have a collection of 9 official document seal stampers of the Berlin SS, a Luger, a small collection of WOII medals and a few books about the doctrine of the 3th reich.
And guess what, I'm not a nazi, just a collector.
LIAR!!!! YOU ARE AN ANTI-SEMITE
The swastika was a very old symbol used by many ancient cultures to denote good luck.
yeah, where are they now?
India and Japan still exist, what's your point (besides the one on your head, that is)?
my only point was that it's just not very lucky? ...not obvious?
Heres a question on Nazi gold. Its illegal to have anything with the symbol on it om certain countries. How does it effect the value?
I'm guessing melt value stays constant wherever, but the coin itself has to have some value too.
ok, tell the truth and shame the devil, how much nazi gold have you got?
none but I do have a couple of nice lampshades har har har
He seems fairly bright. I'm surprised he didn't realize We The Living glorifies the opposite of what the Communist Manifesto put into place.
He should have read Siddharta a few more times -- he clearly did not understand its meaning.
Listen, this person was obviously psychotic. Just because he posted some alleged reading material doesn't mean he actually read the stuff. Just sayin'...
wake the hell up!!!! you think any 22 year old read 3 of those books?? really ?? in the video game, facebook age?? wake the hell up!!!!!!!
I've read Siddartha more than once, along with a lot of other Herman Hesse novels -- in some ways, they're unfathomable.
i cant believe ZH crowd eating up that you tube page like it is truth... i guess this farce was targeted to you all
who the hell lists those books ?? that sounds like the kansas library ban list.. not one modern read?? and you think that kid..hell ANY kid read all those??
They arrested a second and third person so the target of the hit could have been the judge that was killed and the congresswoman could have been a diversion.
it seems those other people created that you tube page to frame this joker... eye witnesses say someone from the crowd fired a shot as well.. no doubt trying to take jared out and leave him with that you tube nonsense
anyone want to send jared the link to that you tube farce???
See, people who read books are dangerous.
sorry my comment had nothing to do with yours .
See guns dont kill people, books do!
It's actually the papercuts from reading the books that make you go mad.
I once had something just like it. I was taking off some papers from the xerox machine at work and cut my finger on the papers. SUDDENLY!! BAM!! MENTAL FLASH! It was something like: Buy Antrax and disperse it in the metro! Kill EVERYBODY!
But then I noticed that it was 5 o'clock so I said to myself "I'll do that tomorrow" and you know how that mostly turns out...
Here we go again....mainstream making us feel guilty about Hitler and the yahoods again. Realize the 'anti-semitism' scam is about to expire just like the Wall Street fiat game. Once people take to the streets, they will have to blame someone...and all fingers will point to this 2% minority thats been fucking us for 100 yrs, AGAIN! When are we going to learn?
All of todays evils revert back to them. Fuck it.
Hear how they did it in their own words.
True Stories: Defamation.
http://www.archive.org/details/Hashmatsa
Here is another link. Funny how some of the sites showing this documentary are being censored.
True Stories: Defamation.
http://wideeyecinema.com/?p=7208
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wow...talk about self-deception.
The ADL agglomerates denials of time off for unknown jewish holidays as anti-semitism. JFC.
Complete bunker mentality..this shit is mental abuse to these poor kids in Israel. That spot where those guys were on the bench and a LANGUAGE breakdown was construed as anti-semitism...just...wow.
This tends to corroborate my personal experiences in this matter, unfortunately. I didn't get this sense when I was in Israel, but I never really broached the subject with any of them and did not note any propaganda like this in the JPost. It was mostly about the election of Hamas that happened the weekend I was there.
Zionists are a few goosesteps away from being Nazis.. hell read the Haaretz and see that the jewish state is not a zionist state and that plenty of Israelies hate the current racist gov.. http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/is-israel-on-its-way-to-bec...
That made my beverage come out my nose!
'See, people who read books are dangerous."
Thank god Amerikans don't read books... ;>}
New meme: People who know how to read are dangerous
The Khmer Rouge killed everyone in their country who could read.
The Mind Controller
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnNx0WThoF0
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Why would a Marxist-Communist kill a Socialist-Communist? That doesn't make sense. Could this be a set-up just like 9/11?
Is his other favourite book the New World Order Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World"? Strange....
yeah im smelling a bit of a patsy thing going on...its too similar to john patrick bedell. its like they create these guys.
<MK-Ultra> Stamped all over it...
Abolish the CIA...
Damn straight it is! Just like the miracle of the "hijackers'" passports being fully intact on the streets of New York City: oh! pay no attention to those dancing Israelis (whith the white van)!
He's a gold & silver bug.
Lovely....
How many Marxist/Communists do you/we know that are gold and silver bugs? I thought that those sorts of people HATE gold and silver because it hampers the nihilism of Marxism.
He went nuts due to his constant state of cognitive dissonance...lol
Truest statement of the day. A very common affliction in these times. For everyone. Very bad paraphrasing of Kurt Vonnegut but here goes, "only the insane stay sane in an insane society"
you might want to check this out...
http://ofgoatsandmen.blogspot.com/2010/03/why-patsies-have-split-persona...
cool name, barkingbill...
+1 false flag.
My sentiments exactly ....
Here is his youtube channel
http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10
Top books, Mein Kampf and the Communist Manifesto? At least now those arguing he was a right wing nut can claim victory as can those calling him a communist.
Not quite the Right Wing was actually the Left Wing in the Nazi era.
All the right wing people I know if you called them a commie, or a fascist would kick your ass till your nose bled.
Right wing, is now considered Conservatives.
I know no one who would remotely resemble that remark.
'Now the Huff Po Hoes here, is another story.
Nazi’s are national socialists, much closer to commies than right wingers.
Sure, sure. Everything that can comfort you is good.
What, you think Nazi Germany was a shining example of a nation ruled by the individual, rather than one ruled by the madness of crowds?
You need to re-examine your life.
The plain obvious is that neither the right or the left, both groups,offers a path to a nation ruled by the individual.
Claiming that nazis were not right wing is just what the guy got obsessed with: bringing a new grammar to substitute a fabricated version of reality to reality.
The phrasing "a nation ruled by the individual" is also antinomic. But who cares when people want group organized societies?
Do me a favor and recompose that message because I have no idea what you are trying to say.
And East Germany during the Cold War was a "Democratic Republic", because like the Nazis, that's what they called themselves, and they wouldn't lie.
Marx was a Jew. Communism has it roots from those people. They are at odds with each other.
I don't like either.
You clearly have no understanding of fascism. I doesn't matter what Hitler's part called themselves. We call this country a democracy but that doesn't mean that it is one.
When you don't know, you don't speak.
The level of taxation in Nazi Germany was far lower than in the USA today. Hitler ordered the suppression of fractional banking and re-established a dictatorial monetary standard.
Anti-Nazis disgust me.