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Jared Lee Loughner's YouTube Site Reveals Clues About The Killer, Lists Mein Kampf And Communist Manifesto Among Favorite Books

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Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:17 | 859576 bingaling
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go to uploaded videos this is bizarre!!!!!1

 

http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10#p/u/4/E8Wr6AeZTCE

 

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:26 | 859625 Ese Pinche
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W T F was that?

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:48 | 859770 Malcolm Tucker
Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:18 | 859924 Malcolm Tucker
Sat, 01/08/2011 - 21:06 | 860486 velobabe
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he seemed well read, more then Palin, i bet†

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 21:15 | 860515 Lord Koos
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He may have read some books, but judging by his videos his command of the English language was not impressive.  Another damaged vet...

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 21:19 | 860534 velobabe
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well who cares, he sounds good to me†

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 23:02 | 860801 XitSam
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It is now reported that he tried to join the US Army but they denied him.

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 00:16 | 860968 Freddie
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He had a criminal drug conviction.  My guess is the Army did not want him.  High school friends said he is/was a pot head.  He was into flag burning and no Tea Party member is interested in flag burning because it is infantile or reading The Communist Manaifesto or Mein Kampf.  The NY Times spews the same crap anyway particularly Frank Rich. 

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 01:55 | 861163 dark pools of soros
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that you tube page is BS...  but you ate it up pretty well.. i guess they did their job 

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 00:55 | 861059 SF beatnik
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Poor guy's grasp of English is so weak, talking about his grammatical errors is a waste of time. Compare Ted K., the Unibomber.... now there was a man with a considered opinion and an art for expressing it. (See back issue of Wired for his "Manifesto".)

Jared Lee seems like a dimwit. I don't think he's "crazy" (whatever that means). He's just a confused simpleton - presumably, a highly pissed one.

But I don't like the way our media masters feel they have to shield us from the facts. Though I guess a big deal will be now made of Mein Kampf and Marx. Very spicy tidbit, that, I guess.

BTW, the Okie bomber was interviewed by genius author Gore Vidal, I think. (Or at least Vidal wrote a good book about McVeigh.)

I think it was Vidal who said that in the US we have a free press ... but only for those who own a printing press.

May the gods bless Vidal with a much longer life. (He's old and frail, now.)

Why am I even talking about Jared Lee? The entire world is going down the shitter and we will hear only about this lone shooter until some new sensation arises.

I've really enjoyed the discussion of this and other matters at ZH. Very high caliber stuff. Thanks! Long live Zero. There's hope for the nation, yet. (A very small bit of hope.)

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Sun, 01/09/2011 - 05:12 | 861347 George the baby...
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I don't think he's "crazy" (whatever that means). He's just a confused simpleton - presumably, a highly pissed one.

 

Where I come from we normally assume someone is crazy when they shoot into a crowd of people. If this is a measure of how pissed simpletons behave, then we're all in a shit load of trouble.

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 06:18 | 861415 SF beatnik
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George:

I'm much amused.

But yes, I'm afraid we are in a shit load of trouble.

If you had talked to Jared on the day before, I bet you'd have taken him to be just another a mixed up kid.

Where I come from (S.F.), there are some real loonies. And when I meet them, I have few doubts about the correct classification.

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:56 | 861964 tmosley
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then we're all in a shit load of trouble

Understatement of the millennium.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 21:54 | 860636 MayIMommaDogFac...
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I think that is called word salad.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_salad

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 15:05 | 862218 pan-the-ist
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He's schizophrenic.  That is the long and short of it.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:30 | 859650 scratch_and_sniff
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yep, funking stark raving bonkers.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:44 | 859743 Fred Hayek
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So, then he was a Krugmanite?

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 19:50 | 860273 Bob
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Mentally ill.  I suppose it could have been that he missed the balancing impact of Atlas Shrugged, but I doubt even that could have saved him.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 20:02 | 860316 Turd Ferguson
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Wait a second. On another thread, I was told that he was solely inspired by Fox News and Glenn Beck. Turns out he's just another mentally ill, deranged madman. Hmmm, sorry that doesn't fit the Krugman narrative.

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 15:08 | 862221 pan-the-ist
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He happens to be crazy.  That doens't excuse Glen Beck.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 22:36 | 860727 Cursive
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Yeah, he started his own currency.  He's crazy like a central banker.

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 14:31 | 862142 jdrose1985
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Lol

+1

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:34 | 859682 palmereldritch
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The mind controller one was really freaky

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:38 | 859712 -Michelle-
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Yes, but there's a slip there.  He "studied grammar" but he uses "you're" for "your."  Twice.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:58 | 859823 Michael
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Grammar Nazi alert.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:08 | 859874 -Michelle-
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Er, no, just pointing out that a person who lists "studied grammar" as a descriptor would most likely not make a simple error twice and post it in a video for weeks without going back and doing an edit.

I see reports here and there that someone from the crowd fired at the shooter, but missed.  I find that interesting.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:12 | 859888 ReeferMac
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Where's the 2nd Amendment supporters now?

'Spose that'd have a lot more weight if the guy who missed had practiced a little more.... LOL!

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:18 | 859919 -Michelle-
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Right here.  I imagine if more people in the area had been armed, he would have been hit before he got as many people as he did.

In a way, I'm glad he's unharmed.  I want to hear what this guy was thinking.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 19:29 | 860209 Hephasteus
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Which you never will. Same story with timothy mcveigh. Under the guise that his giving interviews would sensationalize it or he would profit or benefit from it.

Your job is to be a bad judge without the whole story. Thier job is to make money and sell newspapers and tv ad time with the superficial cliff notes and analysis from "experts" or people close to this or close to that providing the judgement for you. You're going to be an ego extension of the powers that be through their media outlets whether you like it or not.

Don't fear. In the end you'll be told who to feel sorry for and why and who to be angry at and why.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 20:52 | 860453 Seer
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Thank you for giving me hope that there are people out there that get it!

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 21:02 | 860474 barkster
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he will "die" in prison and surface in paraguay with new id and bank account...

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 21:40 | 860601 dark pools of soros
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will it be with his new currency and name and symbol??   those vids are such a fuckin plant

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 14:33 | 862150 jdrose1985
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those vids are such a fuckin plant

Wow, I thought I was the ultimate skeptic ;)

You're spot-on, in my estimation.

 

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 15:38 | 862292 dark pools of soros
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unfortunately it is working like a charm...  just look how 99.99% of the people are reacting and overreacting to this

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 01:57 | 861165 JW n FL
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They, being the Sheepeople... dont see it.. dont get it... and can not comprehend it... God Bless You! for trying to enlighten them... but at best it is an up hill battle and at worst a lost cause.

 

The ignorant, poor child... shot an evil doer... plain and simple.

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 05:38 | 861366 George the baby...
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The guy shot and killed a 9 year old, what the fuck is wrong with you?

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 07:23 | 861451 DrLamer
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The guy shot and killed a 9 year old, what the fuck is wrong with you?

Nothing wrong with him. There were number of kids in Sodom and Gomorrah. So what? They did not survive. Why? Because there were no 10 righteous people there:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodom_and_Gomorrah

"God reveals to Abraham that he will investigate Sodom and Gomorrah, because their cry is great, "and because their sin is very grievous."[20:21] In response, Abraham reverently inquires of God if he would spare the city if 50 righteous people were found in it, then 45, then 40, then 30, then 20 or even 10, with God affirming he would not destroy it after each request, for the sake of the righteous yet dwelling therein."

USA does not have EVEN ONE righteous human. If God have decided to punish USA for an oil and computer idolatries,  He probably can use their own words from pharisees:

"49But one of them, Caiaphas, who was high priest that year, said to them, ‘You know nothing at all! 50You do not understand that it is better for you to have one man die for the people than to have the whole nation destroyed.’"

It does not matter how many semi-brained, digital-brained, half-brained etc people the Angel of God will direct to WARN the ex-USA.

Maybe this extreme event will force Obama's gang to think TWICE before continuing their "policy".

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 15:11 | 862225 pan-the-ist
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No word salad here, you're a different brand of bat-shit-crazy.

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 02:28 | 863142 DrLamer
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No word salad here, you're a different brand of bat-shit-crazy.

Please, sir, be more specific. What do You mean "crazy"?

Maybe the view I have expressed here is different from the "democracy" mantras You have been listening from the lips of TV parrots, lips of thief President of USA G.W. Bush?

If what is different from all those semi-truth and the straight lies You, sir, simply call "crazy", I prefer to be "crazy".

Any other suggestions?

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 10:49 | 861690 Haywood Jablowme
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Which you never will. Same story with timothy mcveigh. Under the guise that his giving interviews would sensationalize it or he would profit or benefit from it.

Your job is to be a bad judge without the whole story. Thier job is to make money and sell newspapers and tv ad time with the superficial cliff notes and analysis from "experts" or people close to this or close to that providing the judgement for you. You're going to be an ego extension of the powers that be through their media outlets whether you like it or not.

Don't fear. In the end you'll be told who to feel sorry for and why and who to be angry at and why.

 

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Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:29 | 859972 UGrev
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I'm one. I'm right here and completely support people carrying. If there was one or more carrying there, perhaps they wouldn't have had to wait for him to empty his weapon before being tackled. If there was an alert and packing person(s), perhaps this bat-shit crazy, section-8.666, stark-raving-mad, grade-A, Number one, Ichi-ban, crazy motherfucker wouldn't have gotten a shot off, wounding anyone, much less killing a child. Maybe he would have thought twice knowing that entering an area where a large %age of people could be carrying would be a bad idea, and thus never went to commit this heinous act.

Controlling guns only controls law abiding citizens. So go fuck yourself six ways to saturday and twice on sunday (sideways).

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 19:14 | 860174 ella
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No it would not have been prevented the murder.  One man in Wa state shot and killed 4 police officers having coffee in Lakewood, Wa.  He suffered a wound and escaped. Incidents like this occur so quickly there is little to no time to defend. 

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 19:48 | 860271 watchingdogma
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Poor example - police are thinking "Offense".  Citizen carrying is thinking "Defense".  Unless the shooter is a seasoned practitioner, the time they take to aim/fire/aim - would give plenty of time for a defensive minded practitioner to draw, aim and shoot before 4 well placed shots are made by the bad guy.

 

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 10:48 | 861685 Haywood Jablowme
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Poor example - police are thinking "Offense".  Citizen carrying is thinking "Defense".  Unless the shooter is a seasoned practitioner, the time they take to aim/fire/aim - would give plenty of time for a defensive minded practitioner to draw, aim and shoot before 4 well placed shots are made by the bad guy.

 

+1.  For some reason, law-abiding citizens who don't own a weapon can't comprehend that....

 

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 20:43 | 860424 DavosSherman
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+1 and perfectly put UGrev. 

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 21:21 | 860539 Lord Koos
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The fact is that nobody armed or not, likely could have stopped him from shooting the first few people -- even armed to the teeth, the element of surprise is in the assailants favor.  The fact Arizona is a state that allows concealed carry, didn't seem to deter him much.  I for one do not feel safer in a situation where everyone is carrying a gun, all it takes is for an armed person to have a bad day & it's lights out for some innocent victim.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 22:05 | 860666 delacroix
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I believe it's open carry. you need a permit for concealed carry

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 23:10 | 860815 XitSam
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"Starting later this summer [2010], U.S. citizens 21 and older can begin carrying a concealed firearm without a permit in Arizona."  http://www.azcentral.com/news/election/azelections/articles/2010/04/16/2...

And as an Arizona resident, it doesn't bother me at all whether law abiding people carry openly or concealed.  And criminals won't obey the law anyway.

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 13:23 | 862015 Republic2009
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Carry laws are not designed to make you feel more or less safe.  I personally couldn't carry any less how safe you feel when I carry a handgun.  The point of the law is that I feel safer carrying, and if you were willing to dedicate the time and money to become proficient with a handgun, you too, could feel safer carrying.

I agree with posters above that if multiple persons had been carrying at the rally, in all liklihood, one of their bullets would have found the shooter and stopped his rampage sooner.

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