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Jared Lee Loughner's YouTube Site Reveals Clues About The Killer, Lists Mein Kampf And Communist Manifesto Among Favorite Books
Details emerge about the shooter Jared Loughner., pictured below. In addition to numerous details about his life, such as his favorite books, among which are The Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf, we find the following suicide video. Incidentally his MySpace site has already been taken down.
And from his personal details per his YouTube page:
Name:
Jared Lee Loughner
Channel Views:
271
Joined:
October 25, 2010
Website:
About Me:
My name is Jared Lee Loughner!
≈
Hometown:
Tucson
Country:
United States
Schools:
I attended
school: Thornydale elementary,Tortolita Middle School, Mountain View
Highschool, Northwest Aztec Middle College, and Pima Community College.
school: Thornydale elementary,Tortolita Middle School, Mountain View
Highschool, Northwest Aztec Middle College, and Pima Community College.
Interests:
My favorite interest was reading, and I studied grammar. Conscience dreams were a great study in college!
Movies:
(*My idiom: I could coin the moment!*)
Music:
Pass me the strings!
Books:
I had
favorite books: Animal Farm, Brave New World, The Wizard Of OZ, Aesop
Fables, The Odyssey, Alice Adventures Into Wonderland, Fahrenheit 451,
Peter Pan, To Kill A Mockingbird, We The Living, Phantom Toll Booth, One
Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, Pulp,Through The Looking Glass, The
Communist Manifesto, Siddhartha, The Old Man And The Sea, Gulliver's
Travels, Mein Kampf, The Republic, and Meno.
favorite books: Animal Farm, Brave New World, The Wizard Of OZ, Aesop
Fables, The Odyssey, Alice Adventures Into Wonderland, Fahrenheit 451,
Peter Pan, To Kill A Mockingbird, We The Living, Phantom Toll Booth, One
Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, Pulp,Through The Looking Glass, The
Communist Manifesto, Siddhartha, The Old Man And The Sea, Gulliver's
Travels, Mein Kampf, The Republic, and Meno.
And two other videos posted on Laugners' website
Lastly, here is a picture of Loughner, via azstarnet.com (h/t Doug Ross)
And below is a screengrab of his MySpace page before it was taken down, via @jhlaing
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that's an interesting theory. i guess that is why the nazis threw the communists in concentration camps?
do you know who the rivals/enemies of the nazis were in their parliament? the democratic socialists...
So a doomer did it ....
I bet he has gold derivative tissue paper in his e-trade' account & some silver ( down 20% in days ) wheaton ....
mcVeigh2
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He sounds like he was speed reading Zero Hedge...
Nope - judging by the arsehole's grammar, he is functionally illiterate.
Simply put, he is someone who hoped for change, and was deceived. There are no doubt many more similarly disaffected people out there.
You find more than occasionally correct grammar, let alone spelling, on ZH?
Punctuation is a different story, entirely.
-one that passed English, back when it was required
His one favorite YouTube video...
http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10#p/a/f/0/3L1lsLU-kUw
Oh, shit... he's wearing a garbage bag and a Scary Movie mask!
Edit: Deflated smiley-face balloon?
He just lit the American flag on fire.
I don't think that video is him, it is just a video he 'favorited'.
Well, it does look like Arizona to me.
Speculation has it that that was his first YouTube ID, before he created his other one.
Has the identical cryptic babble as his other one, as well.
Go ahead and tell me that this isn't Jared's...
"If there's no flag in the constitution then the flag in the film is unknown.
There's no flag in the constitution.
Therefore, the flag in the film is unknown"
Hey, watch it, you got your chocolate in my peanut butter!
"play it in reverse" he said ...
We did that all the time when we were young (putting flags of certain western countries on fire) so what ?
We'll be watching you, listener....
TYLER---- Great reporting job
+1000
His writing style is schizophrenic. Look at his sentence structures. Everything is "if... then..." He writes like everything must fit to a certain logical structure.
Sounds like a software developer
Java:
if ( loughner.equals("marxist') ) {
system.out.println("wacko");
}
Nah, he's a perl guy. I can elaborate with the syntax:
use Strict;
use Weapons;
if ( 1 ) { kill_everyone; }
give_up;
but no -w option for warnings
this whole thing stinks of -T
For the less understanding of PERL, the -T flag tells the interpretor to be wary of any input data as it may be tainted...
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A writing style can be schizophrenic?
He probably tried to capture and express how words can bring into existence and force a version of reality.
Logically, words are used to depict reality. But reversely, they can be used to frame reality.
Several times, he announced the version of reality that is to be enacted.
He brings it to reality by stating it.
And finally,he assesses how the version of reality brought in by his word has transformed reality.
Empowerment, propaganda and stuff...
He will probably be characterized as a deranged person.
I can see why he enjoyed reading Alice Adventures in Wonderland and Through the looking glass and a few other books like Gulliver's travels and one flew over one cuckoo's nest.
Yes, writing can be schizophrenic. Schizophrenic people are identified via their communications, verbal or otherwise.
Have you ever spoken to a schizophrenic person?
Looks like a slip from a person's attributes to their actions.
A writing style might express a schizophrenic personality. Does not make the writing style schizophrenic.
Nobody on how the State uses psychiatry to control people by sending them to mentally ill asylums?
Because with all the wannabee psychiatrists populating this section...
If you would like to argue that this guy is perfectly sane and simply misunderstood, be my guest.
I dont know this guy therefore I can tell nothing about his mental health. Even if I were qualified for psychiastrics or stuff, I'd refrain from passing a judgement of his sanity based on a few exercizes of style.
General "Buck" Turgidson: Ahem... The Duty Officer asked General Ripper to confirm the fact that he *had* issued the go code, and he said, uh, "Yes gentlemen, they are on their way in, and no one can bring them back. For the sake of our country, and our way of life, I suggest you get the rest of SAC in after them. Otherwise, we will be totally destroyed by Red retaliation. Uh, my boys will give you the best kind of start, 1400 megatons worth, and you sure as hell won't stop them now, uhuh. Uh, so let's get going, there's no other choice. God willing, we will prevail, in peace and freedom from fear, and in true health, through the purity and essence of our natural... fluids. God bless you all" and he hung up.
[beat]
General "Buck" Turgidson: Uh, we're, still trying to figure out the meaning of that last phrase, sir.
President Merkin Muffley: There's nothing to figure out, General Turgidson. This man is obviously a psychotic.
General "Buck" Turgidson: We-he-ell, uh, I'd like to hold off judgement on a thing like that, sir, until all the facts are in.
The text in his videos did call to mind some bad attempts at free verse poetry (mine when I was that age). Given that he said he was into literature, I think your interpretation has some validity.
Google "Neuro-Linguistic Programming"
Can YOU think of anything without having a word for it?
listed as his favorites.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L1lsLU-kUw
to the tune "let the bodies hit the floor"
Actually 3 videos from Dec 6 to Dec 15
http://www.fundmymutualfund.com/2011/01/videos-3-videos-of-jared-lee-lau...
those videos freaked me out
Great book list, but what the hell is conscience dreaming? Does he mean lucid dreaming?
I don't think the media will emphasise the political beliefs of the gunmen, it would confuse the American people too much, I mean a nazi and a commie? It just doesn't make sense!
..and a gold bug...
A communist nazi goldbug...no wonder he couldn't keep it together
There, this is what you get when you send kids to community colleges studying grammar. Communications, on the other hand, is so stupid that it's harmless. But grammar is powerful, powerful shit but you can't get a job or otherwise make money with it.
Youse is either with us or youse is with the grammarians.
Cunning Linguists.
LOL
We used to do lines of grammar in elementary school -- but I quit, cold-turkey!
Wow this guys's fucked. Looking through his youtube page is like a cross between reading traditional chinese via google translator and the writings of a 4 year old dyslexic kid.
Peter Pan? Wizard of Oz? Alice in Wonderland? These are much more troubling than Kempf or Manifesto, come on.
Money and Politics in the Land of Oz
http://www.usagold.com/gildedopinion/oz.html
Where's "Moby Dick?" "The Rights of Man?" "The Federalist Papers?"
Well-rounded? I don't think so!
Great book list, but what the hell is conscience dreaming? Does he mean lucid dreaming?
Perfect fodder for Manchurian Candidate speculation.
I'm guessing a misuse of conscience for 'conscious'.
No Catcher in the Rye?
Strawberry Fields Forever!
Holden finally 'catches' a break.
Stocks will go up on Monday
Hahahhaa +1
Seems he was also a hard money guy and a constitutionalist according to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHoaZaLbqB4.
But his logic is very disturbing in the other videos. Seems he was a quite disturbed.
Disturbed may be the new normal. Buckle up. It´s going to be a wild ride.
Ya. Ordinary people have to get really disturbed before they kill. Dick Cheney or army snipers can do it all day every day without any worries at all.
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An entry from the Ron Paul blog:
"Nice try... That fake profile was just created"
Now, the fake facebook page is gone.
The "english" used in the video looks like it was a second language for whoever posted the video; "I'm informing you for your new currency." And why just the text and no voice? He didn't own a microphone? Many don't, I guess, but it could have been easily tested for authenticity via voice analysis if a voice had been present.
An entry from the Ron Paul blog:
Ron Paul doesn't have a blog, but some so called truthers who can't understand that Paul calls their theories "preposterous" like to post in a blog named for the good doctor. Is that the blog to which you referred?
Fuck nut.
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked up. The MSM probably isn't releasing his name til this stuff is scrubbed.
And so everyone who was complaining about social media in an earlier post, this is where it really shines. All of this early info came from twitter users. That is where I first found mention of the videos using twitter search:
http://search.twitter.com/
Google got me there independently pretty damn quickly.
but twitter was there first
I hit the youtube account via google without any twitter involvement. Twitter "beat" only those who didn't google it themselves.
Nope...No red flags here
From a video of his-
All humans are in need of sleep.
Jared Loughner is a human.
Hence, Jared Loughner is in need of sleep.
A dirt nap? But he was not successful in nap dreaming.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHoaZaLbqB4
The kid sounds like he was just starting to figure out how things really work.
Too bad it also sounds like he was on shrooms at the time too.
Most people who figure it out on shrooms do not go out and murder a whole bunch of people. In fact, I'd argue that figuring it out on shrooms (with plenty of good company) will probably prevent this sort of thing.
+420
Most ZHer's will junk this as stupid shit. But I agree.
Nothing against shrooms as I am experienced, and psychedelics do open your mind to many new horizons, writing while under the influence does not articulate well.
Reads more like a speed freak to me.
doublethink is the act of simultaneously accepting as correct two mutually contradictory beliefs, often in distinct social contexts. A Nazi and Commie at the same time, makes sense to us here at minitruth.
Pre-crime is not a real crime, but they will try to make pre-crime a real crime with this incident.
Says who.... ? That can be changed anytime.....
Strange. Bet he never dreamed he'd be looking at the death penalty.
I'm guessing he doesn't have a lot of friends, much less an army.
oh christ...he talks about currencies, new currencies and your own currency. Guilt by association. What an amazing coincidence...
This does seem too perfect and beneficial to our oligarchs.
He wants a new currency, therefore he's NWO, so we should arrest the bankers.
There it's easy. But I'm sure the corporate media will take a slightly different angle on this.
+ ScAmero
I like your logic
dp
yeah - yank his myspace but leave up the disinformation.. there is also reports that another person was trying to shoot him... he'll be silenced anyway
No ZH on list. TD off hook.
Old channel of his I'm guessing-
also fucked up.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10#p/a/f/0/3L1lsLU-kUw
this stuff is nonsense... that flag burning vid is just a 'favorite' of his with both of these accounts made 4 months ago...
serious holes in all this
this just keeps getting weirder\
In one of his videos also mentions he's a military recruit.
I smell a false flag.
Na they would try to get more mileage out of it. Throw in that he loves ron paul and zerohedge and that he also loves gas guzzeling pro-street cars. They gotta a lot of shit they gotta knock out before time runs out.
But seriously it's either a false flag or it happened naturally and will be used to discredit suspcious types.
Me too...it drips as it burns...made of petroleum products
--what is that sound it makes as it drips and burns ... zip zzziiippp zziipp
Melting plastic milk cartons cause voot voots when they drip.
Think I've seen this guy before:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgcVLOe9qFM&feature=related
LOL +1
His writing style is messed up and schizophrenic but he seems to be a silver and gold bug though...
We should not only be sorry for the victims - this man also deserves our sympathy.
Things are going to unravel much faster than we thought. Hold on to your hats because in a few months' time the country will have become unrecognizable.
We should not only be sorry for the victims - this man also deserves our sympathy.
I'm not into collective emotionalizing but as an individual he and his family have my sympathy as do the victims and their families.
Fox News is reporting he killed a 9 year old. Now he's gone and done it!
Fox News is reporting he killed a 9 year old.
Was that before or after his return from Afghanistan? If it happened overseas it's OK because their kids are just collateral damage.
totally...and 11 collaterals is a pretty hohum tally if there's one high value in the house
I came across this video this morning. The last half is interesting as you have a veteran linking the wars overseas to economic issues. One quote: "I threw families onto the street in Iraq only to come home and find families thrown onto the street in this country due to this tragic, tragic and unnecessary foreclosure crisis":
Even The Troops Are Waking Up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-CpCUOygqU
If the media actually served us that should be on every channel, good thing we have the internet.
I dont see the relevance of this story to readers of ZH.
Goulish, I know but Ive checked out the Youtube videos, isnt it amazing the way
a soundtrack over some series of text points can create the thin illusion that this nutjob
had anything to say.
I dont know if the reference to 'new currencies' in the completely incoherent youtube rant
makes it relevant or if this event is being posited as the start of some possible uprising
against the political system. This terrible event is only significant as a
personal tragedy for those directly affected and quite frankly Im slightly offended that people
read this event in any wider political context apart from the unfortunate obsession Americans seem
to have with gun ownership or the sad way that modern life seems to
marginalise certain individuals sufficient for them to carry out these attacks.
Political context will be made from this by the powers that be and it will affect all of us. Think a little.
And it will be presented using powerpoint which every 21 year old loves. You think 21 years like tits and pussies but no. They love powerpoint. They love it so much they will want to rape it. They won't use powerpoint to make these videos because then people will think they were done by the marketing department at Intel.
Reading the stupid commentary here, I'd say that the zerohedgers are making more political context out of this than the MSM will.
While I might agree that some of the commentary here is "stupid", I'd hardly imply that the media is approaching this from a "Facts Only" standpoint. The political machinations have already begun with in-depth reporting and opinion pieces like:
Not exactly un-biased reporting there Sparky.
SHIT! This is only going to make PM prices climb even higher.
Nice going Jared! (/sarcasm off)
But what will it do to Subway sales (not to mention Safeway sales)?
Don't you have a finger to shove up your ass, or some other meaningful task to attend to?
if you want to see all five of his youtube videos before they're taken down (and if you're on the same version of his youtube site as i am), then you might want to open five tabs, open each video, and pause it as soon as it starts. while viewing, pause each video just before it ends, because each one transitions automatically into the next one, and i'm not sure whether you would be able to re-view the previous one(s) after that, if the page is taken down in the meantime.
there are lots of problems with his use of english; i don't plan on cataloguing all of them.
references to mind control are very intriguing. mind control seems to have been involved in many high-profile assassinations since 1968 if not earlier, namely those which involve lone-nut patsies.
comments about the judge who was killed are interesting, including this one:
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/jared-lee-laughners-youtube-site-reveal...
two other people were arrested?
bear in mind that the most revealing information in situations like this is usually available in the heat of the moment, just after they happen. watch for the story to morph over time.
it's also interesting how many media channels are calling him "laughner". even drudge spells it that way right next to their link to his youtube page, where he spells his name loughner. that's very strange. laugh-ner.
(update: drudge just corrected the spelling error a minute ago.)
or just download them with jdownloader
i guess i'd have to download jdownloader in order to do that...
He does have a pretty good start on the insanity defense.
+1
Well, Jared is getting a new currency alright. It's going to be slices of baloney and cigarettes.
internet profiling, coming soon. to your favorite blog. the bush doctrine, goes hi tech
The videos etc make me wonder all the more if this isn't psy-ops. Watch for a responding government power grab. Seems to me the only people that benefit from this guy's actions is the government.
http://livenewswire.org/2011/01/congresswoman-shooting-suspect-leaked-mi...
Goodness.
Sounds like Whitney Tilson talking about Netflix...
+100 P/E
There seems to be more and more "videos" appearing as the day goes on. The first site I looked at had no mention of gold and silver, just "new currency". Then appears a video that mentions gold and silver as "the new currency". Now this link, which was not on the previous links.
It stinks like CIA psy-op.
It's official now, USA has turned into Pakistan. Thanks Tea Party and Palin!!
You ain't seen nothing yet. And your finger of blame points in the wrong direction. Include Bill Clinton who signed NAFTA and repealed Glass-Steagall, setting up 20%+ unemployment and millions of families losing their homes, becoming homeless on the continent their forefathers conquered, one family at a time.
Tough times don't qualify as a defense for 1st degree murder.
His commentary and bizarre trains of thought scream schizophrenia. And this episode would fit with being a psychotic break. And he's the age where the illness begins to manifest strongly.
I agree 100%. Have seen it with my friend's son. A+ student, quiet, exceptional athlete, gifted artist (had worked on album covers for a very well known band). Never gave his parents or sibling any reason to doubt he was normal. Graduated high school. That summer immediately after grad he put together a portfolio in a couple days and got accepted into a very respected art school. The examiners commented that they had not seen that kind of talent for a long time. Within a month he snapped and that was five years ago. Althought he has not hurt anyone yet, you can see darkness in his eyes, his reality is incomprehensible to you or I. In his case medication helps a bit but he's not right. It is sad really.
Too sensitive. You open your crown chakra up too much without an effective filter. That is what happens. You not only get all the stimulation from all the group thoughts and energies you get all the horrible hidden buried junk. The really bad people are able to open up to it and use it because it doesn't bother them. They are part of it. That's why tesla had so much trouble with "controlling" and trying to set up effective mental immune system type reactions to it. While blow people up Alfred Nobel wasn't bothered by it at all. It's the evil advantage.
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Pill? That you?
redpill.....how many OZ of silver do you want to bet that this kid was on some sort of brain candy...some sort of SSRI? it is a little mentioned fact by the MSM that all the school shooters were on some sort of psychotropic helper.
Seriously, if the guy was a right-wing nut job why would he go after somebody more too the left? If he kills somebody moderate, and who happens to be a woman, then the resulting government power grab has public sympathy.
That or he's just a looney acting on his own.
Jared behaves as if he is phsycotic
Thus Jared is psycotic.
Beyond that, you have to look to the main cause of non-organic psychosis, which is rapid change. Our society is changing rapidly, and Jared seems to have taken in all of the areas that are up for grabs at the moment; our currency, our government, our religion. I think too much change tipped Jared into psychosis.
This is part of the reason the dark ages were dark...mass migrations out of peoples existing cultures caused mass psychosis. We are living in interesting times. Expect more of this unfortunatley.
More than anything, this event should be a clarion call for better mental health care funding. We have existing laws that keep guns out of the hands of psychotics...where did Jared get his Glock? This is the only question I have and no one is asking it yet. Was he undiagnosed? Did he steal a friends gun and stop taking his meds?
I for one come to ZH to keep me grounded and sane in an insane world.
Can someone explain this with the 10000 + 1 = 10000 coins ? I dont get it...
I think it may be inferring something about currency inflation?
okay and to the non native english speakers here, what does B.C.E. and A.D.E. mean ?
i guess AD and BC ??
and this 5 4 3 2 1 0 1 2 3 4 5 ?
BCE is now used instead of BC and stands for 'Before Common Era.' Usually, AD is replaced by CE for "Common Era." BCE and ADE seem like a mashup of the two.
He talks about trouble at college with 'adding letters' maybe these are the letters he was reffering to? Some kind of new description of his own?
His videos suggest to me he was psychotic. That is, had lost touch with reality, was paranoid, and couldn't disguish fantasy from reality. His age is consistent with first break schizophrenia.
Poor kid has paranoid schizophrenia. No doubt. He's the right age. Shows signs of curiosity and/or intelligence. The "mind control" stuff is spot-on. Most paranoid schizophrenics are harmless to anyone but themselves. This is very sad.
What about a nation that invades another on ground on WMDs, finds none and keep occuyping the invaded nation after checking the absence of threats?
Can a nation be affected with paranoid schizophrenia?
Or is it the moment you start to charge your precious diagnosis?
That's a discussion better suited for another thread, probably, but an interesting thought.
Concur 100%. I had a girl friend who I watched go into this over the course of 4 or 5 years. Fortunately, she was harmless, but the progression of the illness has consequences. There were a lot of parallel worlds shits, mind control stuff, aliens, secret "Truman Shows" and whatnot. Also knew a kid who had a psychotic break and was committed briefly. Because I knew this other girl, he was easy to diagnose, just ask him if the A/C units outside the window are talking to him. He was batshit, highly disoriented.
Yeah, unfortunately my take on this kid comes from some personal contact as well. I hope the people you've known came out of it OK. It must be absolutely terrifying.
Didn't Mark Vonnegut write his memoirs about this malady in "The Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" or something like that? His dad's stuff was strange but entertaining, Mark's was weird to me because it was "Billy", (a la Slaughterhouse 5), in the first person. Pretty weird.
well, no they didn't actually. The latter better than the former, lost track of the boy. But the girl still calls me periodically from halfway houses or outpatient or sometimes back in psych lockup.
She may have smoked her brain with dex or adderall, but friends of hers from HS said she was always crazy. This is not an illness she is going to shake off, unfortunately.