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Jobless Claims Huge Miss To Expectations Of 380K, Print At 412K, Previous Revised Upward, Core PPI Higher Than Expected

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The BLS beat the expectations game continues. While this week's number of people filing initial cliams surged to 410K, blowing out expectations of 380K, it is once again the prior revision that shows the true nature of the BLS. As we said last week when claims printed at 382K, better than expectations: "last week's 388K was revised up to 392K, declining to 382K below
expectations of 385K, which in tried BLS fashion will certainly be
revised next week so that the actual number will have been a miss but by
then nobody will care." Sure enough: last week's number was revised... to 385K, meaning there was no beat. Obviously this week's number will be revised higher next week. As usual. Looking at continuing claims we see the same thing: the prior number was revised from 3,723K to 3,738K, meaning the drop to this week's 3,680K was better than expected. Lastly from the BLS, people claiming EUCs and Extended Benefits increased by about 40K in the week ended March 26 (full report here).

Elsewhere, PPI printed at 0.7% on expectations of 1.0%, down from 1.6% previously. PPI ex food and energy came at 0.3%, up from 0.2% previously, which also was the expectation for the March number. As El-Erian says on CNBC: "People may be surprised by the rate at which the core goes up." As for headline prices dropping, looks like once again nobody at the BLS actually bought food or filled up their car in the past month: the 0.7% headline number was the lowest since November 2010 (full release)


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Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:40 | 1168274 NOTW777
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Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:17 | 1168392 Thomas
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Get Sophie on the phone. She's got some choices to make.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:31 | 1168452 youngman
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As the BRIC´s are meeting about the demise of the US man

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:15 | 1168380 trillion_dollar...
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Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:44 | 1168488 taraxias
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brilliant ++++

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 11:27 | 1168860 AmazingLarry
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Nice! I'll need to borrow that at 0% if you don't mind.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:45 | 1168496 oh_bama
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Why too negative and unamerican!!

  • Claims are high due to JAPAN and MIDEAST!
  • BTFD and you will be rewarded!!
Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:42 | 1168287 101 years and c...
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...BLS notes that jump in claims reflects quarter end.

So, companies now fire people at the end of the quarter? If thats the case, why did the retarded "economists" not know this and forecast it.  What a load of BuLlShit.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:51 | 1168317 John Law Lives
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It makes one wonder why the BLS should add any such comments to the data.  Shouldn't they simply report the data and let if go at that?  It seems obvious someone sent them a memo to put a positive spin on anything they report.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:03 | 1168350 Confucious 222
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Makes one wonder why the BLShit Bureau shouldn't be stuffed into the cracks at Fukushima to help revise the previous week's emissions.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:22 | 1168409 WonderDawg
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That's awesome.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 10:41 | 1168654 smithcreek
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The reason doesn't matter, they just need to throw out one of these crappy numbers now and then so they can get back to the usual ways of describing the unemployment numbers:

  •  (this week and the next 4 weeks) the unemployment numbers have fallen x-1 of the last x weeks
  •  (after 4 weeks) the unemployment numbers have fallen x weeks in a row
  •  add in the always useful (when it goes in the right direction) 4 week average and you have data for every outcome
Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:42 | 1168288 Global Hunter
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this is one of those moments where I turn on CNBC for sport.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:47 | 1168297 oogs66
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I did the same thing :D  it was entertaining to watch liesman only talk about CPI and how food prices went down! 

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:51 | 1168322 Josh Randall
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As long as the Truck Stop buffet stays the same price, Liesman thinks the economy is doing well

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:42 | 1168289 billwilson
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Impact of Japan earthquake on US production?

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:49 | 1168304 I am Jobe
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Bad weather in the East Coast was also the reason.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:01 | 1168349 SheepDog-One
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No billwilson I think US production of #1 product, 'bullshit' is increasing.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 12:22 | 1169100 Campagnolo
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or maybe Peru elections?....or Chavez talking some bullshit?, what a joke

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:43 | 1168290 The Axe
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I love this data!!!   I decrease in the FOOD component??   You kidding me?  right..Do they only collect data at Taco Bell...

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:50 | 1168308 MarketTruth
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From one of the USA's LARGEST FOOD DISTRIBUTORS serving many chains and others, food prices have once again been increased from 4% to over 10% depending on product last week at wholesale level. Of course this is an APRIL number.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:54 | 1168326 wang
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Johnsonville Brats and food inflation - CEO prices are going up food inflation is here

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:46 | 1168293 tip e. canoe
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quick Timmay pull that 3rd thumb out your ass and stick it in the dyke toots sweet, cuz she's gonna blow!

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:46 | 1168295 Saxxon
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Fed reporting seems to be engineered to induce short-covering bouts.

I knew we were in trouble when the WH Chief of Staff said something about not letting a good crisis go to waste.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:45 | 1168298 mpok8
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i don't really understand the above article. Are you basically saying that bad figures (i.e. bad for the economy) are being slipped in by the back door? And this is done by revising the previously issued figures which people pay less attention to?

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:46 | 1168490 MachoMan
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Welcome to the party

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:46 | 1168493 hedgeless_horseman
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Sounds like you need to start here:

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:48 | 1168300 I am Jobe
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BTFD, America keeps exporting jobs and then saying the tax receipts has dropped. The truth is coming out and it s looking uglier everyday. Created or saved jobs is a crock of shitz. More pain to come and more layoffs. Get ready for a ugly decade.Meanwhile we need more fucking programmers and crap which is of no value.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:06 | 1168365 LawsofPhysics
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Don't forget all the bankers and financial "experts".  Talk about useless crap.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:49 | 1168314 oogs66
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Translation - We tried really hard to seasonally adjust our way out of this number, and just couldn't so yeah, its quarter end related, yeah, that's it.  Nothing to do with tax cuts failing, QE2 causing inflation without growth, etc....nope, just higher than normal quarter end volatility.  

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:28 | 1168436 WonderDawg
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Let's not forget the uncertainty in the cost of hiring someone thanks to Obamacare and the indecipherable tax code. All the while Hopey the Clown talks about cutting $4 trillion over 12 years, just like he was going to cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term. And $4 trillion over 12 years won't do shit, even if he did somehow manage to make it happen.

We're so beyond Fucked we can't even find it on a map.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:49 | 1168500 taraxias
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Remind me again, what did he say about increasing exports? LOL

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 11:27 | 1168867 Alea Iacta Est
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hmmm...and what, pray tell, do we export?

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 13:18 | 1169321 Printfaster
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Guns?  Butter?  Vaseline?  Jobs?  Pollution?  Dollars?  Treasury debt?

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:53 | 1168320 Global Hunter
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BLS we don't just provide data we provide spin.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:55 | 1168332 oogs66
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they should just drop the L in BLS

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 10:57 | 1168721 Problem Is
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Where's My Fuckup Job at BLS??
Where can I get a statisticians job fucking up so constantly that my work has to be revised every week and not only not get fired...

but make $100k+ a year with full benefits, retire at 55 on 80% of my salary with gold plated government medical insurance??

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:58 | 1168347 SheepDog-One
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'Reflects quarter end' so they admit they lie? Or are they asserting unemployment always goes up at 'quarter end'. Theres really a lot of people that need a good neck stretching.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 11:04 | 1168775 TexasAggie
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so, should I short rope?

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:47 | 1168303 DavidJ
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One Word:  Oil! 

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:48 | 1168312 I am Jobe
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Oil has not bearing on the Economoy and so is infaltion. Janet Yellen. yeap, I could not get inot Harvard. Damn, I guess i should have lied on my application to  get into Harvard.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:37 | 1168462 youngman
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You don´t have to just have to be able to pay for it....

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:49 | 1168306 John Law Lives
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This is a recovery?

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:21 | 1168413 Hedge Jobs
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yep, the "jobless recovery" is back. who wants to take bets on when QE3 starts? I month, 2 months or straight after QE2 ending? 

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:50 | 1168307 GolfHatesMe
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Snowing in the NorthEast at the end of March

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:50 | 1168309 youngman
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If I looked at Obama´s 12 year budget he announced yesterday...I would be looking to move my companies elsewhere....I did...I am in Colombia

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:46 | 1168492 topcallingtroll
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Good move!

The chics r hot down there and it is a real status symbol to have a.caucasian usa boyfriend.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 10:35 | 1168646 Blano
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Oh hey thanks for the info!!  : )

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:50 | 1168310 Global Hunter
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gold up a buck, silver a half buck, index futures down.  Rockin.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:50 | 1168311 Cdad
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This is just one of those rich mornings...when no matter where you look, nothing but FUBAR.  And yet, per the recent takeover of the BlowHorn [CNBC] by the New American Marxist/Banker party, we are about to be treated to a criminal syndicate Wall Street banker who is going to tell us just how bullish he is...on tech.

In the years to come, as we try to explain to our children just how and why we sold their liberty, it will be clips like this that will still be echoing in my mind, one of the hockey helmet wearing criminal bankers pushing "tech" as Japan nears complete nuclear holocaust, and the dollar collapses, and the China bubble pops, and the first rumblings of the zombie apocalypse shake the ground.  

And yet the idiot banker with his blinders on tells us how exciting the present moment is, in hardware and the Internet, how he likes iPads and smart phones, etc puking etc.

And I'm going to have to explain to my children that, on that whole liberty thing, that relic, unfortunately America decided to bow down to mentally retarded and immoral banker fuckwads...and sorry son...there you go.

FUBAR, brothers!  Even the government stooges cannot keep the FUBAR from leaking out today.  Weekly jobless claims....SURPRISE!  So much for an improving labor picture.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:52 | 1168331 John Law Lives
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If everyone did their part and turned CNBC off, it would go away.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:05 | 1168357 Cdad
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I would like to believe that, John.  However, since the New American Marxist/Banker party took over the BlowHorn [CNBC], their revenue stream changed.  I'm pretty sure it is not the return on advertising dollars that pay the bills at that network.  Just look at their ratings.  They are so unbelievably bad that, were you correct, the network would already be gone now...OR...COMCAST would be firing some pretty high profile personalities there in an attempt to re establish journalistic integrity. 

Nope...I think the money comes directly from...the New American Marxist/Banker party's propaganda wing...quarterly "contributions."  There is no other explanation for why the network is still on the air.  The criminal syndicate Wall Street banker network exists...for bankers.

Oh...and because I know the comment that will come next, I do not watch them to keep informed on economic issues...but rather for staying up to date on just how far down the Marxist road we are [so spare me those comments for the 100th time].

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:21 | 1168415 John Law Lives
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Perhaps you are right.  There is an obvious bias to their content.


<<< Oh...and because I know the comment that will come next  >>>

You won't get that from me.  I haven't watched CNBC in ages.  You can spare yourself a headache by turning it off.  

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:54 | 1168335 SheepDog-One
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Lets see how bullish tech is when they realize no IPhone or other ICrap parts are available from Japan! These Criminal racketeers are going to have to eat crow by the bushel soon. Even the Geisha Bukakke girls Quick Burnett and Liesman wont be able to placate the 401K bathrobe brigades this time around.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:04 | 1168359 Cdad
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Quick Burnett and Liesman wont be able to placate the 401K bathrobe brigades this time around.

LOL!  Classic SheepDog-One ism.  Good one, Dog.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:10 | 1168375 SheepDog-One
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I read a chilling article laying out just how far reaching Japan is for ALL cars, nevermind Toyota and Honda spin. GM and all the pther US cars are filled with Japanese parts, wiring harnesses, switches, we dont make any of that! And wormy Apple is Japanese parts assembled in China. What are they going to make Iphones out of now? 

That Japanese disaster was immediately kidnapped, thrown in the back of a black van with a blanket over its head. But they cant keep it under wraps for long.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:28 | 1168433 Cdad
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Correct Dog.  They just had to keep in under wraps long enough to take down the Japanese market, then mark it back up...while they also printed their double top in the US market.  Nothing has anything to do with anything...real.  That is the state of the state, the world that Ben Bernanke made, the institutionalized nature of pathological lying that the criminal syndicate known as Wall Street has established as baseline, or common.

They own the networks, and they can get away with it...for a while...but eventually, one or two criminal syndicate Wall Street bankers have flashbacks...and they remember things like credibility.  They talk, say something on the New American Marxist/Banker party network [there have been a couple].  And eventually, the herd is forced to turn.

Dog...NOT ONE CHANGE over at the BlowHorn [CNBC] since the merger.  Can you believe that?  So telling...blankets and being tossed into the back of panel you say.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:46 | 1168494 aerojet
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WTF is the problem?  We can start making all that stuff and go right around Japan if so desired. 

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:41 | 1168485 topcallingtroll
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ishit is about to hit the fan.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:50 | 1168319 TumblingDice
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Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:52 | 1168327 AccreditedEYE
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Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:54 | 1168329 aVian
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normalcy bias...its all where to move to...any thoughts?

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:25 | 1168378 Dr. Richard Head
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The Icelanders seems to enjoy shoving the imposed debt back into the bankster's bernanke (aka ass - I will be using Bernanke as an expletive from this point forward).  I need to learn their language.  Is there an app for that?

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 10:52 | 1168696 Problem Is
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You mean a multi purpose expletive like:

"Hey Bernank you, you Bernank-hole!"

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 14:20 | 1169601 Dr. Richard Head
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Bingo.  It's bernanking fun too. 

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:53 | 1168333 Commander Cody
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And the Titanic's bow takes a dip.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:16 | 1168398 Dr. Richard Head
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No, no, no.  It was just Percy Cornelius Taylor's "A" string on his cello that broke.  That was the sound you heard and not the bulkheads filling with water.  That is all. 

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:55 | 1168334 Josh Randall
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Wonder if the Toyota and other car mfg employees are rolled up in there yet

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:57 | 1168338 aVian
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they wont count them until they have too

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:57 | 1168341 Global Hunter
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Damn you should work for the BLS, you could spin that.  "One time gain due to car manufactures shutting down".  Like it.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:15 | 1168391 Herman Strandsc...
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Employment in Japanese specialist  Junk Yard operations should increase?

I hear that Airbus A380 wing repairers are also in demand.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:56 | 1168336 topcallingtroll
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the race between core and real gdp is heating up

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:54 | 1168337 Racer
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Ah yes, the Bureau of Lies and Scams can be relied upon to continue the lies and fiddles

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:56 | 1168344 topcallingtroll
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goldman had to know this before their topcall, those trolls

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:59 | 1168346 Oh regional Indian
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With a SNAP of BLS fingers, all NUMBers are revised at will.

Meanwhile, sheeple wallow in the mire, what was once the exclusive domain of PIIGS.

Hmmmm, How to make Sheep Pigs in one fell revision.

I think that is revisionary mutation right here.


Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:04 | 1168351 I am Jobe
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Inflation Actually Near 10% Using Older Measure

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:03 | 1168356 Eireann go Brach
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Ahhhh Ben, what do we do now, Print Barry Print! Ahhhh ok, order more printers then, we dont print money Barry, we just add zeros on a computer, stop confusing me Ben....

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:08 | 1168364 ivana
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Have to love such Dpt of Truth!

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:07 | 1168369 the not so migh...
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one word " winning the future" 

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:13 | 1168381 SheepDog-One
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I knew with Barry Soetoros yammering about how things will be 30 years from now that all out depression for 2011 was confirmed.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:32 | 1168446 the not so migh...
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freudian slips, 30 year depression; i agree

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:09 | 1168371 Angry-Irish
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"A Labor Department spokesman said claims typically jump in the week following the end of a quarter. Workers who wait to file in the next quarter sometimes can get higher benefits based on periodic adjustments in how they are calculated."

Blah, blah, blah.

It's funny, you never hear the Labor Department explain why improvements in the New Claims number are the result of temporary anomalies that should be discounted.

This simple facts shows that the BLS's remit is the recording of labor statistics but the marketing of them - and always with a positive slant.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:09 | 1168372 DoctoRx
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Bullish for gold.  

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 13:20 | 1169341 Printfaster
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Not so.

You first have to have income and savings to buy it.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:11 | 1168376 breezer1
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everyone here is too negative. those guys are just trying to keep everyone calm.( while they dry ass fuck the rest of the population of the world)

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:14 | 1168383 cowpieflapjack
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Why do they even bother to trot this shit out? There's a

load of hurt going on out there and from what I can tell the wrong people are feeling it.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:16 | 1168393 SheepDog-One
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They really dont care and in fact wish all of us would just drop dead. When people realize that is the truth, they see everything in a completely new light.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:46 | 1168498 aerojet
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Yup, pretty much.  We're farm animals to them.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 11:17 | 1168827 trav7777
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and of course EVERY farmer wants nothing more than his farm animals to drop dead

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 14:31 | 1169646 ItsEvolutionBaby
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There comes a time where the farmer slaughters his animals for meat.

And the animals never see the farmer sharpening his knives.

Animals are caged on a farm, not free.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:17 | 1168390 Fox-Scully
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It's all about WTF (winning the future)--please do not live in the present!

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:32 | 1168455 dexter_morgan
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The truth is out there.........

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:19 | 1168402 I am Jobe
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Percent of people working lowest since ’83…Only 45.4% of Americans had jobs in 2010

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:21 | 1168416 cowpieflapjack
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A budding Steinbeck puts words to paper in a garret somewhere....

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 10:12 | 1168573 Josh Randall
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Exactly - everyone thats ailing needs to hop on 66 while the ole Mother Road is still available and head West. Whether they find a Labor Camp, a Beach, or actually a new job is immaterial, because the drive will be good for the soul. The human highway is still out there for those whom seek help, love, and understanding from their fellow man

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:22 | 1168417 LawsofPhysics
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At this point, eliminating the BLS might be a good idea.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:26 | 1168422 web bot
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The solution is pretty simple.

The US needs to balance its budget within a 3 to 4 year time frame with measurable goals. Pure and simple. Otherwise, buckle your seat belt, and add a zero to the unemployment number.

Unless a clear plan can be signalled to the markets and they see an end to this structural deficit, we're headed for default.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 12:26 | 1169110 mayhem_korner
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How about Congress gets 10% of what they cut, divided pro-rata among all the "yea" votes? And a bonus 2% for entitlement cuts... They'd be in permanent recess inside of 45 minutes and we'd have the entire slate to re-elect.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:25 | 1168424 cowpieflapjack
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Another bureaucratic backwater "office" whose relevance has passed.


Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:31 | 1168441 jkruffin
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But, they said everything was great? They said job openings were everywhere. They were adding employees all year long? The jobless recovery was intact? 

Just like last time the QE was about to run out, everything went from rosy to dumpy. Bernanke has just ensured QE3 and DOW 16000.  Same crap, same story.

QE until the printing presses are demolished.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:32 | 1168443 HedgeFundLIVE
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The last time Obama went to war with Wall Street, the biggest of the taxpayers, the market sold off hard:

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:33 | 1168451 dexter_morgan
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Manipulating the numbers by this government? Shocking.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:40 | 1168477 Cole Younger
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WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner on Thursday said Congress will act to raise the debt ceiling because they realize the consequences for not doing so. "We're only two years from a cataclysmic financial crisis, and the huge damage to credibility and huge loss of confidence," he said before a Bertelsmann Foundation conference. "The idea that Washington would court that risk is inconceivable." Publicly and privately, Congressional Republicans have indicated they understand the implications of not raising the debt ceiling, Geithner said. Geithner added that markets have confidence that Congress will cut deficits. "The world basically believes that problems are manageable, and the system will solve it," he said.


So...I have to is raising the debt cieling going to avoid this? Is this a freudian slip or your first official warning?

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:46 | 1168495 web bot
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The fact that Geithner has uttered these words should send chills down our spines. The cardinal rule in public speaking is to NEVER admit the obvious. The fact that he has done this tells us how personalized this is becoming and how concerned the government is.

To have these words spoken by the Treasury Secretary is huge.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 10:00 | 1168529 taraxias
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massively huge

they CAN'T contain this anymore, plain and simple

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 10:29 | 1168625 Founders Keeper
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["We're only two years from a cataclysmic financial crisis..."--Tres. Sec. Geithner]---Cole Younger

Thanks for the post, Cole.

"Cataclysmic financial crisis."  Like that's avoidable.

The next step down is approaching. What I read into Geithner's comments is that the ground work for the blame game is underway.

No doubt the debt ceiling will again be raised by Congress. Kick the can down the road.

Get squared away. We're running out of road.


Thu, 04/14/2011 - 11:43 | 1168915 ConfusedIdiot
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"that risk is inconceivable." Really?

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:41 | 1168478 digalert
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BLS reports are like a moron Obama speech...all lies.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:48 | 1168497 Rose_Colored_Glasses
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Abbott: You throw the ball to first base.
Costello: Then who gets it?
Abbott: Naturally.
Costello: Naturally.
Abbott: Now you've got it.
Costello: I throw the ball to Naturally.
Abbott: You don't! You throw it to Who!
Costello: Naturally.
Abbott: Well, that's it—say it that way.
Costello: That's what I said.
Abbott: You did not.
Costello: I said I throw the ball to Naturally.
Abbott: You don't! You throw it to Who!
Costello: Naturally.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 10:02 | 1168534 franzpick
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A 2 line graph from 4Q '07 or so showing on the top line the upward-revised initial claims, and on the lower line the first-reported claims number, might reveal the manipulated and continual understatment versus the reality.

And similar graphs for the other statistics gamed by the federal cabals.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 10:07 | 1168550 lunaticfringe
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Fuck Obama. Stock down. Losing. Link to Wirecutter.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 10:08 | 1168563 Jim B
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Suprise, the phony debt based, service, ponzi economy!

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 10:17 | 1168583 digalert
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"We're only two years from a cataclysmic financial crisis"

Is Turbo Tax Timmy talking about the future, or past when he and Barama said they saved us from the brink?

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 10:33 | 1168637 dexter_morgan
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Another issue to get Dickhead Durbin working on.........nah, not enough camera time involved for him.......

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 10:46 | 1168678 Problem Is
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Lie By Revision
Barry Obummer's favorite, go to lie...

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 10:51 | 1168685 web bot
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That ass puppet Haynes and his side kick Barbie Burnett on the blow-horn just posted the question, "Should the IMF be telling the US what to do"?

Here's the simple answer: No one else (ehemm... in government) is, so better them than the Obomatron or the Geitner Counter.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 10:51 | 1168698 svc101
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BLS makes sense only if preceded by a "W".

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 11:06 | 1168782 wrongsideof30
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What does BTFD stand for?

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 11:26 | 1168863 AmazingLarry
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As far as I can tell; Buy The Fucking Dip

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 11:46 | 1168933 AldoHux_IV
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The same very idiots that said we needed all the QE and fiscal stimulus to procure a recovery are now saying we need more debt and to implement austerity.  What a joke-- they were wrong before and they will continue to be wrong again as it is now painfully obvious that these monkeyfuckers only serve to implement policy that benefits the top 1% and that's it.

Right now of the bigger idiots is talking on Bloomberg-- the so-called chief economist of the IMF is trying to say that the everything is rosy and their bullshit models are in control and have a good grasp of what's going on-- please give me a break.  Their modeling is flawed, and listening to the interview it's also painfully obvious these morons are cut from the same rhetorical cloth.  Slavery for the peasants and the continued benefit for the elitards. Hey douchebag-- here's the best solution for the fiscal problem and providing for the other 98% of the world: destroy the meaningless debt.

END THE FUNDING FOR THE IMF AND WORLDBANK.  These financial terrorists need to be brought to justice.  They have the vaguest clues of how economics really functions-- the very face of contradictions.

It will end peacefully or violently either way this slavery will end.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 12:15 | 1169052 mayhem_korner
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Maybe GS' bear-raid on commodities earlier this week was to help Benny buy the dip on cotton-linen paper and ink for his fiat-o-matic presses.  Looks like PMs are queued up again after two days of being in "time out." 

Speaking of PMs, anyone else notice that private deliveries of physical S&G taking a LOT longer to fill in the past couple months?  I think the x-squared term in the polynomial is starting to eclipse the x...

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 13:19 | 1169329 the grateful un...
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el-erian has a good point. the difficulty with this inflation is that it the bottom of the curve, asset prices falling less quickly than personal income. those core items are being held up by the Fed, and is there anyway that raising interest rates will make homes and autos cheaper? Normally home prices would fall in a rising interest rate environment, but one suspects that sellers will learn to play the game. ex you want to sell a 100K home, but the bank will only go 75K on a loan because rates are going up. the seller then agrees to loan the buyer the money, at half the going rate, and in turn he gets full price. poor Bernanke, he taught us all the tricks. 

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