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Julian Assange Has Been Freed On Bail By UK Court
As part of his £200,000 bail, Assange has a 10pm curfew, passport surrender and an electronic tag. Unclear if he is allowed to use a computer. So how about that AES 256 key already?
Keep up to speed on the most recent development courtesy of the Guardian:
3.50pm: Here's our story on today's decision.
3.46pm: More on the bail conditions.
• Surety of £240,000, according to BBC News
• Curfew from 10am-2pm and 10pm-2am
• Assange must report to the police station every day at 6pm
3.36pm:
Hang on. Swedish prosecutors plan to launch an appeal against the
decision to grant Assange bail. They have two hours to do lodge an
appeal. Assange will not be freed until that process is over.
A lawyer for Assange predicted that the he won't be released tonight, according to Mostrous.
3.34pm: Assange's bail conditions include surrendering his passport, a curfew, and an electronic tag.
3.31pm: Assange's next court appearance will be January 11 2011. (Sorry about the technical problems in the last few minutes).
3.25pm: Assange has been granted bail, to cheers from inside and outside the court.
3.00pm:
We doubt whether this actual category of rape would be rape under
English law, Robertson told the court, according to Mostrous. (This is
the weirdest way to report court proceedings. Why don't they televise it
and have done with it?)
2.57pm:
Sarah Saunders, a restaurant designer and friend of Assange, signs
document offering £150,000 as surety, writes Vikram Dodd from the court.
She says it is almost all the money she has.
2.51pm: It looks likely that Assange will be granted bail, Vikram Dodd predicts from the court.
He
adds: "Over £200,000 offered in surety for bail. Court told ten
international public figures also offering surety. Court asks one of
them to sign [bail] document."
2.46pm:
Vaughan Smith, from the Frontline club, has been put forward as someone
offering surety. As expected Assange's barrister Geoffrey Robertson
says an electronic tag could be placed on Assange if he is bailed. He also offers a curfew, and travel restrictions, according to Mostrous.
Robertson jokes that Assange would be under "mansion arrest" if he was bailed to Vaughan Smith's house, Mostrous tweets.
2.34pm: Unfortunately we can't set up an automatic feed for Alexi Mostrous's Twitter feed. Unlike Heather he works for someone else.
Here's his three latest tweets:
pros counsel: "The court has already found that mr Assange is a flight risk and its submitted that nothing has changed"
Judge says: "the stronger the case, the more likely the defendant is to abscond, the weaker the case, the less likely."
Pros counsel says: "In bail applications under extradition act strength of evidence ought not to be primary focus."
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Key please..
Tag actually. He's now been stamped with the mark of the beast.
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Edit: Not being released for 48 hours at best.
FUCK THAT KEY!!
When Assange was arrested, he had 32.000 euro into his accounts WHICH ARE BLOCKED NOW!
Bail = 200.000 pounds = 240.000 euro!
WHO BAILLED HIM OUT!!!
Some patriot.
I don't know how it works in Britain, but you can post bond with only 10% of the required bail by using a bail bondsman.
Of course, if you jump bail, you'll have Dog the Bounty Hunter on your ass.
It said something about "10 international figures" who were offering bail. Since I'm long tin, how about one of the ten kings of Revelations!
Michael Moore was one who said he would offer bail money. Michael would forgo a couple meals to put up the $20k
And simulataneously save on the extra airline seat he has to buy. Win/win.
WHO BAILLED HIM OUT!!!
" Sarah Saunders, a restaurant designer and friend of Assange, signs document offering £150,000 as surety, writes Vikram Dodd from the court. She says it is almost all the money she has."
everyone will be bailed out nowadays, including Ass(ange)
In the UK, the courts/government can make you surrender a key used to protect yuor private infromation. In this case, forcing him to give up the key unlocks all the secrets... and I bet he is not the only one who knows what the key is...
Truly must see TV:
http://www.disinfo.com/2010/12/wikirebels-the-wikileaks-documentary-video/
Neo: Yeah. That sounds like a really good deal. But I got a better one. How about... I give you the finger... and you give me my phone call?
Agent Smith: Mr. Anderson... you disappoint me.
Neo: You can't scare me with this Gestapo crap. I know my rights. I want my phone call.
Agent Smith: Tell me, Mr. Anderson... what good is a phone call... if you're unable to speak?
Awesome. Very apt. If I was JA I'd be worried that plausible deniability of an upcoming hit was the British judicial systems game here. I hope he has a body guard or ten.
I'll bet two ounces of silver this a ploy to facilitate his extermination or rendition. Some coffee shop he's in will blow up, it will be blamed on IRA or muslim extremists, and somebody in MI5 will be fired(reassigned to liason in Langely, VA). Or perhaps he'll just disappear, with several witness saying he was last seen riding a Segway off a large cliff.
Time for homeboy to get his ducks in a row. This won't last long.
Relax, Tyler, Christmas is a comin'.
Oh, I hope it's a "client" list...
We've been hearing that for months now!
He sits on too much of the information for my liking.
The Powers that be have probably got him in their pockets and are using him as controlled opposition.
When i actually see information Wikileaks releases actually bring down a government or corporate entity then i may think otherwise. But, for now, i'm sceptical... it's starting to look like a scripted soap-opera.
+1
If Julian or the hackers would just release docs implicating the CIA in 911, then it would be game over.
Why hasn't anyone released this think of material?
Much more damaging than a BofA dump, which most Americans would't get anyway!
But the 911 stuff, I think would be enough to start riots in every city across America.
Out with the 911 docs, already!
In the mean time, I think I'll go downtown to the 16th Mall in Denver and throw a few river stones through the windows of the Federal Reserve bank.
I suspect I can probably hit 5-6 windows before I am detatined. Doing my part to keep the Fed in the spotlight! Who's got the 0ther 11 branches covered?
Assaunge wishes people like you would stick to the real world he said 9/11 was not a conspiracy.
“I’m constantly annoyed that people are distracted by false conspiracies such as 9/11, when all around we provide evidence of real conspiracies, for war or mass financial fraud,”
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/lifestyle/features/wanted-by-the-cia-wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-14880073.html
That statement combined with documents released that echo western war drums is precisely why many of us choose to wait until the dust settles on this before we can determine who JA is really working for.
If you have evidence of countless conspiracies meant to bring about war and/or financial gain, then: (a) release the information; and (b) why is it so hard to make the jump to 9/11?
As to (b) it seems that most people only believe the government would dare to kill brown people, and they are ok with that. Also they are I guess ok with the death of white volunteer soldiers. Or maybe they aren't ok with either, but they accept the reality of both. Due to the fact that neither one involves their own life and is therefore sad etc. but not personally frightening. Another possibility, is that it is too frightening or sad to contemplate for most so denial sets in. It probably depends on the individual.
You got me MachoMan, you see Fascism everywhere you look around you and it's almost universally agreed upon, but bring up the trigger event and DEEP conditioning kicks in even with other wise "hip to the scheme" people. I don't get it, but then I had my doubts about the official story literally day one.
excellent comments both. It has never made sense to me how people can't make the leap since it is nearly undisputed the wars were an oil scam and have caused how much death and destruction? That said, as I've mentioned before, the criminal justice system has a similar phenomenon with incest and child rape. The family has a next to impossible time admitting the ugly truth and will believe just about any other bad guy scenario.
Perhaps he says that to protect himself and maintain credibility. JA loves playing intel games. Who knows what he really thinks, or who he really works for. This whole thing sure is fascinating Kabuki shadow play or not.
THERE ARE NO 9/11 DOCS!!!
THERE ARE NO 9/11 DOCS!!!
This operation was conducted by an small elite group in the top layers of power(think Dick Cheyney),
a few low level operatives on the ground that can't prove anything and would be just laught at(and properly dealt with) so don't hold your breath on 9/11
Especially if there is no one looking for them.
Here's one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozTnINH6Yls
Don't forget the firemen at the scene!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmC_HKRu428
Of course the NIST and other government agencies suppressed these videos for years. You know probably in the interest of full disclosure right? Nothing says transparency like obfuscation!
Azzanoth and your guys' statements are consistent. There is a massive amount of circumstantial, physical, witness, and expert evidence. The most difficult part is assigning direct criminal responsibility to any one individual even though it is fairly obvious it's at the very top of the food chain. It's funny how we tortured all sorts of folks but didn't do some heavy leaning on our own to get to the "truth."
The only thing it proves in the end is Trav's degree of peak oil urgency. I think this is how these crazy bastards justify it in their own twisted mind. Us stupid common folk can't handle the truth and the emergency is so dire, we can't take normal, legal, internationally acceptable avenues to "secure" our future and our safety. This is not Dick Cheney, this is every one in and out of power who fails to insist on investigations going forward.
Time to take off your tin foil hat. There are lawsuits starting against governments by citizens thanks to the leaks.
Lawsuits against the Lords from the peasantry? Funny.
Agreed.
That's part of the control mechanism, letting people think they can seek real justice and wrestle back control through the court system.
Please...........
You "win" when they want you to win. And I'm not talking about winning one case. You must then "collect" your winnings. In this case, let's see if we can use a corrupt process to remove corruption.
Lacks your usual incisive insight, CD. Control only works when people believe that it does, which means that the means and mechanisms of control are as varied as people's beliefs. That's a lot of variation.
It only takes one leak to bring down the dike. All it takes is one fortuitious combination of an implacable plaintiff, a competent attorney, a reasonably fair judge, and a plausible case. Highly unlikely, but not impossible. More suits equals more at bats for the good guys.
I wasn't arguing if someone could win as much as I was asking them to try to collect after winning.
A judge can say whatever. But if the state doesn't wish to comply, who's going to make them comply? There are many ways to skin the cat and the state has several ways to block the courts.
It takes more than one reasonably fair judge. It takes a reasonably fair appeals court and on and on. Your logic presumes a legislative and judicial system that is not thoroughly corrupt. Can you point out the evidence for that?
+1
I'm still undecided whether he is an agent of the CIA or just being fed limited info through controlled leaks ... I tend toward the latter. In any event, many of the published leaks are a major step forward from NO leaks and incriminate many in governments, the agencies and the military with evidence of serious crimes.
All the publicity has made the public much more aware of the lack of morality in the conduct of the wars and so-called diplomacy. That is a good thing.
Time to quit drinking the Koolaide. Mr. A sure seems to get lots of coverage in the various press organs of the Empire-far more than he deserves. He sure doesn't act like he is trying to leak info-he acts like part of a lame reality show. A real whistleblower would release everything and go hide somewhere, not play kat and maus with various very well funded 'intelligence' agencies. The only lasting results of this lame reality show will be inconsequential leaks and lots of new internet restrictions.
You think Assange is the only member of Wikileaks?
He's out front taking the blame, generation publicity for other potential whistleblowers, and distracting public attention away from the real leaking operation.
You've got to understand, he's got them by the balls. They can't kill him or the really bad stuff will get out. He has forced them to play his game.
And Wikileaks is constantly demonized in the press, not praised.
You've got to use your heads, people. You give the government and intelligence agencies FAR too much credit, and you greatly underestimate the damage being done to the US lie machine by these leaks.
Read what High Plains Drifter wrote a little further down. Then try to use your brain. Oww, we give governments too much credit... Or maybe we give The Fed much credit too , huh? Or the banking sector and how its interests are secured, ahaha, too much credit! I find it hilarious that Assange was right there with Lady Gaga and the rest of monkeys in the spot for "Person of the year" by Time. Look there - "Wikileaks"! Now look over there - war between Koreas! Ok, now you can go back to Justin Bieber. People don't use their brains, they eat what they are being spoon-fed.
Its true. If he were doing half of what people think he was doing , does anyone with half a brain think he would get one minute's worth of publicity? Come on now. One million people showed up in Washington DC last September for a march. Did any of you see any of this in the media? Nope. Total black out. Why? Not in their best interest to show such things to the sheep. Case in point. Just because someone dangles some bait out, don't be the foolish fish to go for it and get your self hooked.
Are all rebels ignored by the press? Does history dictate that? There are limits to that logic. While it is just as possible that he is or has become a tool, it is equally logical that this was the innevitable battleground of insurrection. The mere fact that people debate this has opened up reality questions to a broader audience. As others have said, there is some interesting stuff in those documents. If he is real, he is at the mercy of his suppliers, and they have their own limits. If he is real, there is a great deal of balancing to maximize the political support.
I think you have to support JA regardless of whether he is an "Op" or not. I will say it's really too early to make a judgement one way or the other. Until something definitive comes out one should support him and furiously rebuke any attempt at Internet censorship. Stating with certainty one way or another about JA seems premature to me. I remain agnostic and supporting of JA/WL until I see something definitive. The fallback stance should be support of all leakers and against all Internet censorship.
Just my $0.02 pre-1981 pennies.
I'd like to believe, but sadly, i can't. "Underwear bomber" lead to TSA patdown and scanners. This looks like a step to implement more internet censorship. We'll see soon.
Yeah, I hear you and articles like this: http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/netanyahu-wikileaks-revelations-were-good-for-israel-1.327773
really make me wonder. I guess we'll see what happens. I keep hoping something definitive will come out one way or the other. Of course I think that about LOTS of things and have yet to receive satisfaction on them.
"Every Israeli leader has known for years that that dispatches are likely to leak out, so we adapted ourselves to the reality of leaks,"
This is the key statement. Remember who's talking. The ruling elite of Saudi Arabia and America, like the the ruling elite everywhere have all sorts of alligned interests that have little to do with the common folk of either and both. Then there's that sunni shi'a thing to consider. If a deal is cut to split the oil spoils and quell some competition, why wouldn't they be on board?
The State Dept already admitted in testimony before congress that they let the undiebomber keep his visa so they could observe his activities. Apparently they observed him get on the plane, try to ignite the bomb and get wrestled to the floor by a Dutch tourist.
With facts like that openly admitted and freely available why not spend your time promoting that instead of following mindless conjecture about Assange?
Wait, let me get this straight. You DON'T think 9/11 was an inside job (had help), but the underwear bomber was?!?!
**Paging Cognitive Dissonance...to the Wikileaks thread...Cognitive Dissonance to the Wikileaks thread, thank you**
It's not about conjecture, it's about the evidence. A State Dept. official said that they let the undiebomber keep his visa so that they could observe him. That's a fact. 9/11 "truth" is purely conjecture.
Can't you tell the difference?
Obviously you either have done ZERO investigation. Or made up your mind before investigating. There are two videos linked in this thread that are NOT conjecture, but eyewitness reports. There are tons of research done on architects and engineers for 9/11 truth, firefighters for 9/11 truth and all the intel whistleblowers that came forward similar to the underwear bomber revelation.
They are not conjecture but bearing first hand witness and/or explaining how physical reality works. If you haven't figured that out it's on you.
Conjecture means, in case you didn't know, to just randomly state things with nothing to back you up. The core of responsible 9/11 truth investigation (the precludes obviously specious, and likely psy-ops distractions eg holograms) shows facts and does not attempt to derive all the answers. That is what a properly transparent investigation is for that follows all evidence and has subpoena power and testimony ONLY under oath.
The conjecture is the fabricated bullshit fairytale that even the government's handpicked commission didn't buy.
You're either lazy, in fearful denial, or work with pre-conceived notions. Perhaps if Obama had been in office instead of Bush you would have believed in collusion?
Obviously you either have done ZERO investigation.
See, that's another example of conjecture which you believe is evidence. I have in fact spent hours and hours reviewing "truther" material. Lots of conjecture there, no evidence. Do you know the difference?
I concur with Ron Paul when he says that so called 9/11 truth is "preposterous."
Well I concur with Ron Paul when he says 9/11 commission was a coverup:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMTyga2NvCc
You obviously either wasted your time reading the worst 9/11 dis-info sites eg holograms. OR you are being less than honest here, or you are just unable to assemble the critical facts that anti-Truthers such as yourself can't explain away. Of which there are probably a dozen catalogued on the reputable 9/11 truth sites. And of course there was the firemen's testimony: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmC_HKRu428
And that of another witness: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozTnINH6Yls
Of course there is also the 9/11 families who want a transparent investigation. www.buildingwhat.org.
Me thinks you either didn't spend THAT much time, or found some wellmeaning 9/11 truth idiots or 9/11 disinfo sites (holograms etc.).
If you are being honest and you ARE open minded please review the following sites in addition to the video provided:
http://firefightersfor911truth.org/
http://www.ae911truth.org/
www.buildingwhat.org
Here is an interesting article on the continued hit pieces against people like Judge Napolitano a Libertarian who wants an investigation: http://911truthnews.com/911-families-demand-apology-from-media-matters/
Do you believe that Paul, Napolitano and the 9/11 families want a new investigation because they think the government perpetrated 9/11?
Ron Paul has always said that Arab hijackers attacked the US and that the government had plenty of warning. He says the government has covered up their failure to prevent 9/11. He says that he doesn't believe that the government attacked US citizens on 9/11.
Do you see the difference between that position and the "truther" position?
You see my point. It is easier for you to believe in the lie, than believe the truth. This is why our military has such a easy job getting volunteers to go fight their immoral and illegal wars. It is easier to believe the lie than believe the truth. We have a major problem in this country. Not sure why so many can be fooled so fast and so often. There is something definately wrong. Don't get me wrong Mr Gold, it is just my oberservation and is not a ad hominom attack on you, but I say these things for the purpose of generating healthy discussion. Lord knows we need it before they close down the net.
You find it easier to believe that TPTB are omnipotent, that like magic, any bad thing you can imagine they have already done. If TPTB are all powerful, then you don't really have to do anything to promote transparency and freedom.
I have a sad feeling you are right.
Way to much coverage by the networks,....
If the leaks contained any real damaging information, they would have muted the coverage on TV.
I think this is about setting the ground for "new internet restrictions" which Obama already has the legal power to shut the internet down.
With the first cyber terrorist caught and charged, the sheeple will applaud future moves to restrict the Internet.
Bin Laden got away, but we caught Julian just in time.....
If the leaks contained any real damaging information, they would have muted the coverage on TV.
And yet few people seem to know what is in the leaked documents. The focus is almost entirely on how bad a man Assange is and that's coming from left and right.
well, the intelligence agencies are saying he is a bad man, and at the same time they are controlling him. I believe more than ever that this whole thing is some kind of intelligence operation , plain and simple. There is simply too much support for him, coming from the main stream, while at the same time, they also say he is a threat. Nice game, if you can play it.
well, the intelligence agencies are saying he is a bad man, and at the same time they are controlling him
You believe that by saying Assange is under CIA control the statement becomes true. Don't you understand how crazy that is? Just because you can imagine something bad about someone doesn't make it true.
Well, we already know the US Govt is Biblically Corrupt. But who is going to 'bring them down'? Recall, they have the tanks and helicopters. Wikileaks is only providing evidence of what we already know. Assange should get the Nobel Peace Price. Oh wait, you gotta escalate a shooting war to get one of those.
Wikileaks is only providing evidence of what we already know.
So tell me the contents of all the cables. What's that you say, you can't? Oh, so then you're lying about already knowing the contents. Now I get it.
This is pretty clear. Shouldn't be too hard to crack.
Z72s+NOofUhRdpNDu86rEfTNIW7L4MAE7KCN52/KBgw=
You got it friend.
Wonder if that AES 256 key was incentive for a P.R. bond?
Assange as Neo, right. This is the Matrix you have bought into. Well, it still sells, Tyler, why not.
No chance of it being released.
Its winter in many places. Lets hope he doesn't "slip" and hurt himself.
He should decline any friendly tea meeting as well.
Very nice referrence.
For those who don't get it, please follow the link below.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Alexander_Litvinenko
+AES 256
Well played sir.
Hackers have had their say? Or just tools used to shut down the net?
Because they will saw his leg off and leave it in a nudie booth in Picadilly Circus?
It would be a lot easier to off him via an "accident" than prosecute him. He should stay away from sharp objects, sleep in a different place each night, and know what's in what he eats. His insurance is the key but it's worth more to him if kept under wraps than exposed.
Just keep away from grassy knolls, JA.
And hot tubs. And book depositories. And dog leashes, etc, etc.
I know death hath ten thousand several doors
For men to take their exits
Don't forget airplanes!
Of course I guess that got played out during the 30 years from 1980 to 2003ish. It is truly ridiculous how many whistleblowers/politicians died in airplane crashes during that period. Although they did bring back an encore performance for the Polish government so who knows.
Nigel Farage
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/ukip/8173447/Nigel-Farage-plane-crash-pilot-charged-with-threatening-to-kill-Ukip-leader.html
If you're not familiar with it, he got into a plane crash a little while after making some derogatory remarks about the EU president Herman Van Rompuy. Accidental coincidence or coincidental accident?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article7040733.ece
Obviously you never know with stuff like this but you can't help but wonder if the two events are connected.
I'm certain you are right. Pilot threatens to kill investigator too?!?
I hadn't heard about this one. Man, Nigel Farage who has continued with his anti-EU statements really has giant brass balls. That must inhibit his walking in a big way.
http://www.thedailybell.com/1594/Frank-Suess-WikiLeaks-Hype-Propaganda-o...
The PigMen knew all along that he was going to get released.
That is why they have been buying stocks non-stop the last week. The NY Composite and Wilshire 5000 are hitting new highs as we speak.
Were the pig men buying BBY?
Pigmen buy indexes. Too much risk in individual stocks.
Kind of like certain people shorting airline stocks before 911. Same game different name.
Hmm. If I were JA, I'd arrange the insurance in several layers.
So, the first key unlocks the first 10% of the file, showing some fairly heavy stuff; the next key unlocks the next 10%, showing heavier stuff; etc, etc.
So he could apply pressure in stages - one key is too much of a one-time shot.
Well, that's the last we'll see of him. He'll be joining UBL in his cave in Pakistan.
FT this morning said USG should grant Assange a medal for making our diplomatic corps look good.
your avatar just kills me; I gotta know: is that your sister (phone # ?), or your wife? or is it yooo?
More likely just a pic from Google Images. Duh. :-P
3.36pm: Hang on. Swedish prosecutors plan to launch an appeal against the decision to grant Assange bail. They have two hours to do lodge an appeal. Assange will not be freed until that process is over.
A lawyer for Assange predicted that the he won't be released tonight, according to Mostrous.
Interesting that the Swedish government would go to the expense and ridicule of appealing the granting of bail for someone accused of merely having consensual sex with a leaky condom!! And to think that he wouldn't have even been accused of rape if he had only thought to exclaim "Surprise!" on entry.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8197890/Julian-Assan...
wined and dined at US Embassy. What?
http://rense.com/general92/usdep.htm
US Department Of State Cleared The Wikileaks Documents. What?
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2010/12/07/18665978.php
Pussileaks made a deal with Israel. What?
and the beat goes on and on.........
is that rat I smell?
Conjecture, innuendo and blind hatred. But it makes you feel like a big man, so that's OK.
Again, that statement sir, is intellectual dishonesty. Come on now, blind hatred? Please. It is my contention that everything that happens such as this, must be measured and discussed and researched before any findings can be made of a determinative nature. These days, you simply cannot take anything based upon someone's word, unfortunately. If they can, they will lead you around like a dog on a leash. It is bad enough as it is, since they do this most of the time anyway.
everything that happens such as this, must be measured and discussed and researched before any findings can be made of a determinative nature
Let's discuss your employment by the CIA. As much evidence exists against you as against Assange.
Swedish prosecutors under orders from the CIA... how can these slimy scumbags look at themselves in the mirror...
All this over a CONDOM. Give me a break, with all the crooks in the world this guy gets put on the red alert level on interpol over a condom. These vindictive bitches who agree that it was consensual sex have set the female cause back years.
I am confused about this situation.
Assange is charged with a crime in Sweden. He is located in England. The police in England ask him to turn himself in to their custody. He does. The English government decides not to extradite him to Sweden. He has committed no crime in England. The English government requires him to post bail and restricts his rights before they set him free. He has committed no crime in England. I am confused.
Yes it is confusing. It is a big show for the sheep to watch.
extradition rules get complicated
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Extradition-Arrests-of-Julian-Assange-and-Shrien-Dewani-Put-Extradition-Rules-Under-The-Spotlight/Article/201012215849888?f=rss
No need to be confused. Your concerns would be right if Nations and States were actual things, and not administrative divisions bound by world organizations, banks, treaties and oligarchs.
The utopic world government is already here. It's just a "Western government".
Film director Roman Polanski, 76, was arrested this weekend in Switzerland over his 1977 conviction for having sex with a 13-year-old girl in Los Angeles, California
This is the proof that Charles Manson was a deep-cover CIA operative. I'll let you guys fill in the rest of the pieces.
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r Roman Polanski, 76, was arrested this weekend in Switzerland over his 1977 conviction for having sex with a 13-year-old girl in Los Angeles, California.
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Haha, wat the hell is that^^^
Thanks, its much clearer now.
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Well - I'm convinced.
It's called the invisible hand of the market! :)
anyone got the key? i got the file and am dying to open it
Bees bitchesssss
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flight risk
Hard to fly with no passport. And where will he go - back to Australia? They'll put him on the first plane back to the USA.
Ok maybe there are no 911 docs,
maybe it was just under 50 people in Cheney's circle.
But there were certain individuals that worked in the twin towers that were called the morning of the attack and told "not to come to work" that day.
Maybe there are some docs indicating what a joke the 911 Commission Report is?
Of all the condemning evidence around 911, the biggest piece, and just ask any Air Force pilot,
It is impossible to hi jack a plane in the USA and NOT be confronted by the Air Force within 7 minutes!
I think its called NORAD?
I heard the bs account how the Air Force was up North that day conducting military exercises for just such an event!
Ya right, and I give Bush kuddos for the look on his face that morning, when just by chance, he was visiting with some school children!
The reason that they have prevailed is because they knew the pyshcologiocal impact was to big for the average American to even consider the idea that it was an inside job.
All they had to do was mute the networks for ten years in regard to 911 and issue a bs commission report.
At the VERY least, the CIA stood by and allowed the atatck to happen,
just as they allowed the leaks to Julain Assange, but me personally thinks all those planes were empty.
Not a stich of DNA at the Pennsylvania site. The Pentagon lawn was in perfect shape, indicating that was an missle attack.
I know that the people who know what really happened can't speak out for fear of losing their lives.
At the VERY least, the CIA stood by and allowed the atatck to happen,
The CIA tried to prompt Bush to action when they delivered the August 6, 2001 PDB (titled: Bin Laden Determined to Attack US) to the President on vacation in Texas. Bush's reply: OK, you covered your ass.
Wow! and all this time I thought it was the intention of that plane to hit the Pentagon and now I find out they were suppose to destroy the pristine lawn!!! What a conspiracy!!!! At least be open minded enough to look at the facts.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1
The plane that was to be used to attack building 7 was shot down. Building 7 was rigged with explosives just like wtc 1 and wtc 2 and they intended on doing the same thing to building 7 as they did to wtc 1 and wtc 2 which was to blow it up after the plane had been guided into it. This plane never arrived so there was a snag in the plan and in the afternoon about 5:00 pm , they decided to blow it up and then blame it on fires. We are such fools to believe all of the bullshit we were told about all of this. WTC 3 was also blown up I think. Nobody ever talks about or discusses WTC 3. It was the building that contained all the gold that was stolen.
Please link specific evidence to the individual details in this account.
forgot NORAD and the missle defense systems
The planes that struck the buildings that day, were not the same ones that took off from Boston. There was a switch made in Cleveland. What happened to all of the passengers that were on those flights is anyone's guess at this time, but it is all bad. I suspect they were eliminated.
Where's the evidence?
Weren't a number of phone calls made, by passengers, to loved ones on the ground, prior to the planes crashing?
the first good bail out I see
Hah, well played
Is it me or does this whole Wiki leaks thing remind you of Balloon Boy? A fucking Dog and pony show. A distraction for the Sheeple to behold?
It's not just you. But then Christmas is the season for serving up mixed nuts by the bowlful.
Don't forget. It is FED day. We are waiting with baited breath , for the FED chairman, to speak. We are giddy with excitement waiting for this little tribal crook to speak. Just another distraction.
http://www.twilightwhisper.com/gossip/ExWikiLeaks-worker-Rival-site-unde...
now these guys may just do it in the 4chan anonymous tradition, like it should be done. We shall see.
Electronic tag! OMG... that sucks! Key please!
BTW, where are the top secret docs? Enough of those - yawn... secret docs. :)
Key please! I would be they put the fear of God in him while he was incarcerated. We're gonna need an alien super SUPER computer to brute force that insurance file open. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijVIc3NYLfs&feature=watch_response
Wikileaks founder Julian Assange praising war criminal Netanyahu
does this guy sound like his on some major drugs or what?
I did not hear Assange praise war crimes. Perhaps the voices in your head have confused you.