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Julian Assange Press Conference With Julius Baer Whistleblower Rudolf Elmer Begins

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The press conference with Julian Assange on Julius Baer whistleblower Rudolph Elmer who plans on releasing information on "over 2,000" high net worth tax evading individuals, which we discussed this weekend, has started. It can be watched below.

 

 

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Mon, 01/17/2011 - 08:35 | 881172 dark pools of soros
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everyone get ready to connect the dots on the 2000 to see if all walks of life will be represented or just a group hated by a single agenda..

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:15 | 881226 Arius
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will be fun to see the speculations, imaginations running wild...my bet it will be "all walks of life" connected by their greed

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 15:15 | 882244 More Critical T...
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And here's a quick reminder to those "evil government steals our income" tax cheating people, from Monty Python's "Life of Brian":

Reg: The PFJ hates the Romans! They've bled us white, the bastards. They've taken everything we had, and not just from us, from our fathers, and from our fathers' fathers.
Stan: And from our fathers' fathers' fathers!
Reg: Yeah.
Stan: And from our fathers' fathers' fathers' fathers!
Reg: All right Stan, don't belabour the point. And what have they ever given us in return?!
Man: The aqueduct?
Reg: What?
Man: The aqueduct.
Reg: Oh yeah, yeah, that they've given us, yeah, that's true, yeah.
Man: And the sanitation.
Stan: Oh, yeah, the sanitation, Reg. Remember what the city used to be like.
Reg: Yeah, all right, I grant you, the aqueduct and the sanitation are two things the Romans have done.
Mathias: And the roads!
Reg: Well, yeah, obviously the roads. I mean, the roads go without saying, don't they! But apart from the sanitation, the aqueduct and the roads...
Man: Irrigation.
Man: Medicine.
Man: Education!
Reg: Yeah, yeah, all right, fair enough.
Man: And the wine.
All: Yeah, yeah, the wine!
Francis: Yeah! yeah, that's something we'd really miss, Reg, if the Romans left.
Man: Public baths.
Stan: And it's safe to walk in the streets at night now, Reg.
Francis: Yeah, they certainly like to keep order. I suppose they're the only ones who could in a place like this!
Reg: Yeah, all right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us!?
Man: Brought peace.
Reg: Oh, peace. Shut up!


Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:56 | 881332 Mercury
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Not even that.  This action obviously aids the tax collectors not the tax evaders no matter to which side one cedes the ethical high ground.

What the hell happened to his big B of A bombshell anyway? Did I miss something?

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 17:19 | 882560 The Fonz
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I have to admit though I do not idolize Assange and even consider he may be an earnest tool for various intelligence interests this long delay in this banking info really lowers his faction in my mind the longer it is put off. I am more ready to see corruption in relation to banking info release than any other topic, and its abscence bothers me greatly having announced it would be forthcoming. 

 

Will he choose to destablize the banks with this info by timing it correctly or  will he choose to stabalize and control the deflation caused by a controled destruction over time of chosen banking interests?

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 12:25 | 881791 AuShoot
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+2000

Release everything to the media.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 08:39 | 881174 Tense INDIAN
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seems like nice time for some revenge for some people....anyway this is not going to bring down the stock markets 

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 08:42 | 881179 Hephasteus
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It's just a useless display. Shepards slaughtering THEIR sheep as a display. Kind of freaky though. Like how they are going to let wesley snipes out after 2012 is over. Knowing our asses will be either sheeped or gone by then.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:33 | 881276 CH1
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I don't think it is useless... it reduces the hypnotic belief in the legitimacy of the current meta-regime. That is good.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:31 | 881463 Sabremesh
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"Shepards?"

This may seem overly-sensitive, but it actually hurts my eyes whenever I have to read this. It's a "shepherd" - it may be easier to remember if you consider the etymology of the word, namely, someone whose job it is to "herd" sheep.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 08:39 | 881175 Djirk
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this guy at the frontline club is winding up to be the next Ted Turner

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 08:41 | 881177 Manipulism
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"The names on the CDs will not be made public, just as a much shorter list of 15 clients that Elmer handed to WikiLeaks in 2008 has remained hitherto undisclosed by the organisation headed by Julian Assange, currently on bail over alleged sex offences in Sweden, and under investigation in the US for the dissemination of thousands of state department documents."

 

 

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:39 | 881292 JW n FL
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by Manipulism
on Mon, 01/17/2011 - 07:41
#881177

 

"The names on the CDs will not be made public, just as a much shorter list of 15 clients that Elmer handed to WikiLeaks in 2008 has remained hitherto undisclosed by the organisation headed by Julian Assange, currently on bail over alleged sex offences in Sweden, and under investigation in the US for the dissemination of thousands of state department documents."

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and where is the source of this information? the praise jesus club?

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 08:45 | 881181 Bob
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Tech problem?  I'm not getting a video of Assange here.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 08:49 | 881183 kridkrid
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edit... now it's gone

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 08:50 | 881188 Bob
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Tried that.  I'm getting a two hour interview of a guy who was released from Death Row. 

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 08:49 | 881186 Sudden Debt
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same here...firewall... IT'S A CONSPIRACY I  TELL YOU!!!

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 11:31 | 881553 Arch Duke Ferdinand
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"firewall"....The Next Financial Safe Haven is...

Vancouver B.C...The new Geneva of Switzerland

...and it is completely legal and safe

http://seenoevilspeaknoevilhearnoevil.blogspot.com/2011/01/vancouverthe-geneva-of-switzerland.html

Why?

...Because it is the Gateway City of Canada's Four Western Provinces...a plethora of natural resources w/ on 12.5 million citizens

http://seenoevilspeaknoevilhearnoevil.blogspot.com/2011/01/what-will-happen-to-canadas-western.html

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 08:50 | 881187 dark pools of soros
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it was a live feed...

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 08:48 | 881184 claycalhoun
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Wrong video!!

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 08:55 | 881191 JW n FL
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Lets get it on!

WWF! Hulk Hogan v. ________________________.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 08:58 | 881195 Popo
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Two thousand outsiders being culled by the insiders.

Never forget that high crime (a.k.a "the ponzi"... a.k.a "banking") is a game of privilege. When outsiders either outweigh insiders, or cause undue risk to the insiders (see "Madoff". Also see "Lehman") they are culled to preserve the security of those higher up on the food chain.

This is a net positive step, but these are the lowliest rungs on the ladder. (I.e. "politicians")

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:03 | 881198 Bagbalm
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No names = nothingburger. He must have been dismayed to find the criminals included those with his same political affiliations. Can't out your peers and brothers...

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:11 | 881208 Alcoholic Nativ...
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Fuck Wikileaks.  They are attention seeking fascist fucks.  They are maneuvering their releases like some scum bag politician....AND...they have banned me from their IRC channel but at the same time blabber about freedom of speech?

 

FUCK WIKILEAKS, they are going to start pissing off the wrong people.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:22 | 881246 JW n FL
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http://www.peopleokwithmurderingassange.com/

dont worry sweet heart... your drill baby drill crowd is with you... praise jesus!!!

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:23 | 881251 JW n FL
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and while I am at it... not all of Julian's supports are caffe' drinking little twinks.

what I am saying to be clear... is maybe the crazies should pay your kids a visit while you watch... then come back after you make it thru 10 years of therapy to finish the job...

Crazies!!!!!! pick up on isle one, to go.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:08 | 881209 JW n FL
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"Elmer and WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange worked together on a complaint against Swiss banking secrecy at the European Court of Human Rights in 2008."

http://www.allvoices.com/s/event-7912293/aHR0cDovL3Jzcy5jbm4uY29tL35yL3Jzcy9jbm5fdG9wc3Rvcmllcy9+My9yeEd3dnhkcnpHay9pbmRleC5odG1s

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:35 | 881279 Bob
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Proof?  That's an unambiguously fraudulant claim. 

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:12 | 881215 Alcoholic Nativ...
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I say we martyr this idiot and demand the "insurance file".

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:12 | 881217 JW n FL
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"The FBI has reportedly raided a Texas web host and worked with international authorities to search servers in pursuit of the anonymous leaders of the group Anonymous, who blocked the website of PayPal earlier this month in retribution to the company's decision to stop its customers from making donations to Wikileaks. That according to an affidavit posted in part by the legal watchdog website The Smoking Gun today. Dallas host Tailor Made Services was raided on the 16th of December, the site reported.

"These coordinated attacks, investigators allege," writes The Smoking Gun, "amount to felony violations of a federal law covering the 'unauthorized and knowing transmission of code or commands resulting in intentional damage to a protected computer system.'" How several hours of inaccessibility constituted damage to the system was not described in the part of the affidavit posted online."

http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/fbi_raids_web_hosts_over_wikileaks_advocates_opera.php

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:14 | 881220 almost_have_a_name
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Here is my short list. I does not include people with more than one alias, or one shoed Vegas hookers:

Al Gore, Ben Bernanke, Barry Obama, Barry Soetoro, Barack Soetoro, Barry Dunham, Barack Dunham, Banzai7, Ben Ali, Bono, George Bush (I), George Bush (II), Lloyd Blankfein, Michael Mann, Oprah Winfrey, Paul Mccartney, The University of East Anglia, Tyler Durden

 

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:04 | 881370 Millivanilli
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Assange is a CIA patsy.  Wiki leaks= Weak leaks.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:41 | 881500 Sudden Debt
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That's exactly what a CIA undercover would say....

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:18 | 881423 knukles
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Strike Paul.  Paul is dead.
Add Elvis, who is still alive and let me sit next to him the other night while he flew the UFO which is parked in my driveway disguised as a cement mixer.  

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:14 | 881221 JW n FL
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In the latest in a series of blows to Wikileaks, PayPal says it will no longer support money transfers to the whistleblower site.

PayPal has posted a (late-night) statement to its website, saying: "PayPal has permanently restricted the account used by WikiLeaks due to a violation of the PayPal Acceptable Use Policy, which states that our payment service cannot be used for any activities that encourage, promote, facilitate or instruct others to engage in illegal activity. We've notified the account holder of this action."

PayPal's announcement follows Wikileaks' loss of its DNS server today and its ousting from Amazon Web Services earlier this week. This comes on the heels of the recent release by Wikileaks of another round of leaked documents - 250,000 U.S. diplomatic cables.

 

PayPal isn't the only way to donate to Wikileaks. You can make a bank transfer or send money directly by mail. But certainly sending money online via PayPal has become one of the easiest and most routine ways for folks to make all sorts of online donations.

It's not the first time Wikileaks has run into trouble with PayPal either, as the organization had its account temporarily frozen earlier this year.

PayPal's announcement will certainly result in a loss of donation dollars for Wikileaks. But it also marks an important symbolic loss for the organization as well, as it represents yet another major private tech company that has closed its doors to Wikileaks. In addition to those who've refused to provide Wikileaks with hosting and financial services, the visualization company Tableau Software also expunged all Wikileaks content from its site.

Although these companies have said that their terms of service forbid the support or facilitation of illegal activity, such pronouncements about Wikileaks are debatable. While it is a crime to leak classified information, receiving and publishing it is not.

http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/paypal_announces_it_will_no_longer_handle_wikileak.php

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:18 | 881234 JW n FL
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Affidavit Details FBI "Operation Payback" Probe 4chan, "Anonymous" targeted over attacks on PayPal

 

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/paypal-ddos-attack?page=0

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:14 | 881222 JW n FL
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The official Twitter account for Wikileaks has posted a press release this evening drawing a comparison between the controversial rhetoric from public figures that some believe contributed to the attempted assassination on Saturday of Arizona congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords and the even more explicit calls from public officials for violence against Wikileaks spokesperson Julien Assange and others. The organization called for public figures making such calls to violence to be arrested and charged with crimes.

Assange is attributed the following quote in the release: "No organisation anywhere in the world is a more devoted advocate of free speech than Wikileaks but when senior politicians and attention seeking media commentators call for specific individuals or groups of people to be killed they should be charged with incitement -- to murder. Those who call for an act of murder deserve as significant share of the guilt as those raising a gun to pull the trigger." The release pointed to specific high-profile calls for Assange's assasination by Sarah Palin, Mike Huckabee and others and concluded with a link to the website PeopleOKwithMurderingAssange.com

 

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:14 | 881223 doomandbloom
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Ben Fulford in his blog last week (10/1/10) had indicated that major arrests will be made ( with names such as Ban ki Moon amongst others).

 

http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/

 

Now i as usual would have disregarded this fantastical tale, but this recent Julius Baer leak about 2000 names is intriguing...its almost like some people are using Wikileaks as a front to arrest famous people...without causing widespread chaos....( now thats a conspiracy theory).

This will be confirmed if one of the 2000 names in Ban ki Moon...

 

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:20 | 881239 almost_have_a_name
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 Ban ki Moon. I almost forgot about that turd-wipe. 

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:15 | 881225 Seasmoke
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someone needs to give Julian a leatherbound edition of The Boy Who Cried Wolf

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:16 | 881229 Rodent Freikorps
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Is Julian actually going to leak anything this time? Or just talk about it?

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:46 | 881307 JW n FL
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by Rodent Freikorps
on Mon, 01/17/2011 - 08:16
#881229

Is Julian actually going to leak anything this time? Or just talk about it?

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like this time sweet heart?

Cablegate: 250,000 US Embassy Diplomatic Cables

2010-11-28

On Sunday 28th Novembre 2010, Wikileaks began publishing 251,287 leaked United States embassy cables, the largest set of confidential documents ever to be released into the public domain. The documents will give people around the world an unprecedented insight into the US Government’s foreign activities.

All released leaks archived

2010-11-28

Due to recent attacks on our infrastructure, we’ve decided to make sure everyone can reach our content. As part of this process we’re releasing archived copy of all files we ever released - that’s almost 20,000 files. The archive linked here contains a torrent generated for each file and each directory.

War Diary: Iraq War Logs

2010-10-22

The 391,832 reports (’The Iraq War Logs’), document the war and occupation in Iraq, from 1st January 2004 to 31st December 2009 (except for the months of May 2004 and March 2009) as told by soldiers in the United States Army. Each is a ’SIGACT’ or Significant Action in the war. They detail events as seen and heard by the US military troops on the ground in Iraq and are the first real glimpse into the secret history of the war that the United States government has been privy to throughout.

War Diary: Afghanistan War Logs

2010-07-25

From here, you can browse through all of the documents that have been released, organized by type, category, date, number of casualties, and many other properties. From any document page, clicking on the green underlined text will open a popup that links to other documents that contain those phrases, making it possible to see important search terms and connections that you might not otherwise notice.

Video: Collateral Murder

2010-04-05

WikiLeaks has released a classified US military video depicting the indiscriminate slaying of over a dozen people in the Iraqi suburb of New Baghdad — including two Reuters news staff. Reuters has been trying to obtain the video through the Freedom of Information Act, without success since the time of the attack. The video, shot from an Apache helicopter gun-sight, clearly shows the unprovoked slaying of a wounded Reuters employee and his rescuers. Two young children involved in the rescue were also seriously wounded.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:53 | 881334 Rodent Freikorps
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What has he done lately?

Why do all those things seem to have something in common?

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:41 | 881503 JW n FL
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by Rodent Freikorps
on Mon, 01/17/2011 - 08:53
#881334

What has he done lately?

Why do all those things seem to have something in common?

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Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:20 | 881240 MountainMan
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Watching an ex-con being interviewed, is this the right site?

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:24 | 881257 JW n FL
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yes and no... I missed it to an hour I ahve been here! aaggggggggghhhhhhh!

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 11:25 | 881622 CH1
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So, a government locked him in a cage always = He is a bad person?

If you believe that, you really need to walk in some different circles for a while.

 

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 11:44 | 881678 JW n FL
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Preach it Monkey! Preach! let the people hear the truth!

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:30 | 881263 JW n FL
Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:32 | 881272 Rodent Freikorps
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Perhaps you should cut back on the caffeine.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:37 | 881289 JW n FL
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perhaps the crazies should cut your daughters ear off and make you eat it?

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:43 | 881300 Rodent Freikorps
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Good thing Sharia Law would make them pay me for it, seeing as she is my property to dispose of as I please.

Wrong Crazies?

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:45 | 881303 JW n FL
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camel jockey's dont count, wrong side of the world.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:46 | 881305 Rodent Freikorps
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Not for Europeans, Sweety.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:32 | 881274 JW n FL
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www.elmerconsulting.com/pages/About-Me

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:31 | 881271 Zon
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didn't he say he was going to release some BoA documents in the beginning of Janurary? well were are those?

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:34 | 881277 JW n FL
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by Zon
on Mon, 01/17/2011 - 08:31
#881271

 

didn't he say he was going to release some BoA documents in the beginning of Janurary? well were are those?

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No! the jesus freaks said so! praise be to god! drill baby drill!

 

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:45 | 881517 Sudden Debt
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I think you'll have to buy his copyrighted 50$ book to read those.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:32 | 881273 THE DORK OF CORK
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I getting that Guardian vibe from this display - I suspect this entire thing is a load of bollox.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:36 | 881284 Rodent Freikorps
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I suspect you are right.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:44 | 881285 JW n FL
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by THE DORK OF CORK
on Mon, 01/17/2011 - 08:32
#881273

I getting that Guardian vibe from this display - I suspect this entire thing is a load of bollox.

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Cablegate: 250,000 US Embassy Diplomatic Cables

2010-11-28

On Sunday 28th Novembre 2010, Wikileaks began publishing 251,287 leaked United States embassy cables, the largest set of confidential documents ever to be released into the public domain. The documents will give people around the world an unprecedented insight into the US Government’s foreign activities.

All released leaks archived

2010-11-28

Due to recent attacks on our infrastructure, we’ve decided to make sure everyone can reach our content. As part of this process we’re releasing archived copy of all files we ever released - that’s almost 20,000 files. The archive linked here contains a torrent generated for each file and each directory.

War Diary: Iraq War Logs

2010-10-22

The 391,832 reports (’The Iraq War Logs’), document the war and occupation in Iraq, from 1st January 2004 to 31st December 2009 (except for the months of May 2004 and March 2009) as told by soldiers in the United States Army. Each is a ’SIGACT’ or Significant Action in the war. They detail events as seen and heard by the US military troops on the ground in Iraq and are the first real glimpse into the secret history of the war that the United States government has been privy to throughout.

War Diary: Afghanistan War Logs

2010-07-25

From here, you can browse through all of the documents that have been released, organized by type, category, date, number of casualties, and many other properties. From any document page, clicking on the green underlined text will open a popup that links to other documents that contain those phrases, making it possible to see important search terms and connections that you might not otherwise notice.

Video: Collateral Murder

2010-04-05

WikiLeaks has released a classified US military video depicting the indiscriminate slaying of over a dozen people in the Iraqi suburb of New Baghdad — including two Reuters news staff. Reuters has been trying to obtain the video through the Freedom of Information Act, without success since the time of the attack. The video, shot from an Apache helicopter gun-sight, clearly shows the unprovoked slaying of a wounded Reuters employee and his rescuers. Two young children involved in the rescue were also seriously wounded.

 

 

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:47 | 881308 THE DORK OF CORK
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Noise , not music.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:51 | 881322 JW n FL
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you would preffer nothing? your offer better is... then sit, and be very fucking quiet.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:12 | 881377 THE DORK OF CORK
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How could anybody be surprised with the dynamic of war - all wars are barbaric - if they were not they would not be war.

Just because this particular engagement violates Thomas Aquinas rules for a just war does not change the reality of all wars.

As for dispatches between minor and middle ranking diplomats - its tertiary to strategic ambition which as far as I can see is not visable in any of this.

I get the feeling he is Agent Provocateur ,perhaps unknowingly - but his activities will be used by higher level operatives to perhaps shut down the Internet.

Also where is the source in this data  ? (although this swiss banker seems a different beast as he is coming forward independently ) - any journalist that cannot identify the source in his activities is without a foundation for his allegations. 

 

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:24 | 881443 JW n FL
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by THE DORK OF CORK
on Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:12
#881377

 

How could anybody be surprised with the dynamic of war - all wars are barbaric - if they were not they would not be war.

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Wars take money, and right now $20T is up for grabs... that buys a LOT of air time and ammo.

Just because this particular engagement violates Thomas Aquinas rules for a just war does not change the reality of all wars.

As for dispatches between minor and middle ranking diplomats - its tertiary to strategic ambition which as far as I can see is not visable in any of this.

I get the feeling he is Agent Provocateur ,perhaps unknowingly - but his activities will be used by higher level operatives to perhaps shut down the Internet.

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The internet switch was installed long ago. Get satellite.

Also where is the source in this data  ? (although this swiss banker seems a different beast as he is coming forward independently ) - any journalist that cannot identify the source in his activities is without a foundation for his allegations. 

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If he is good enough for the IRS? if he is good enough for my US Goobermint! hes good enough for me!

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:39 | 881493 THE DORK OF CORK
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Why the fuck did I waste a hour of my life having a conversation with you , I will try to keep my counsel a bit more in future.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:53 | 881543 JW n FL
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Dork.. I love your stuff... but I am a dog with a bone as far as Julian goes... honestly... and I will say I am sorry fine sir forgive me please.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 19:34 | 882841 Hephasteus
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You're monopolizing the convo too much and so am I. Come sit with me in the time out booth. And don't play with my junk or keep telling me to kill people so you don't have to. I can start middle and horrible fucking end a fight as well as the next guy.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:38 | 881290 grunk
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With all due respect for Mr. Assange's stated objectives, this "I've got the goods but I'm not going to release them yet" stuff is getting tedious.

 

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:43 | 881301 JW n FL
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by grunk
on Mon, 01/17/2011 - 08:38
#881290

 

With all due respect for Mr. Assange's stated objectives, this "I've got the goods but I'm not going to release them yet" stuff is getting tedious.

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are you in fast food? what service industry to you represent? who would RE-release 2,000 names... without the list being vetted first? with the US breathing down his neck? please, go flip your bugers and shut the fuck up. or default, whatever it is you people do for work now a days.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:58 | 881353 grunk
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So in the JL in Fl world of logic, it makes perfect sense to hold a press conference to say "I've got incriminating documents but I haven't reviewed them yet".

Do everyone two favors:

Take your lithium before you climb on the keyboard in the morning; and

When the crop dusters are about to spray the orange grove around your trailer, have your mom take you into town. Walk around the Walmart for a couple of hours until the pesticides have settled down.

And, as a personal favor to me: fuck off with your illogic.

 

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:15 | 881407 JW n FL
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by grunk
on Mon, 01/17/2011 - 08:58
#881353

 

So in the JL in Fl world of logic, it makes perfect sense to hold a press conference to say "I've got incriminating documents but I haven't reviewed them yet".

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The idiots sheepeople get 24 hours a day of official stories... competing in the space for market share, you fucking simpleton.

Do everyone two favors:

Take your lithium before you climb on the keyboard in the morning; and

When the crop dusters are about to spray the orange grove around your trailer, have your mom take you into town. Walk around the Walmart for a couple of hours until the pesticides have settled down.

And, as a personal favor to me: fuck off with your illogic.

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as for logic, see above...

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:10 | 881388 LFMayor
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I should not bait trollish hydrocephalic idiots, but from time to time I like to excercise my base pleasures.

You are a  fucking  idiot  .  Some chattering, pimply juvenile weakling that thinks CRAZY somehow elicits fear in people.  Crazy people, like my goddam ex-wife, are simply annoying.  You're not even truly crazy, you're just pretending to be to try and inflate the meanace that you exude.  You believe it enhances a menacing aura, which defracts light when you walk in front of it, right?  Son, all unpredictable means is unreliable. Real violence, from people who mean it, comes from discipline and is not used like a magic wand to buttress talking points in conversations.  So in closing, I fully wish that you someday make the mistake of speaking to others like this in the real world, instead of online.  That's when your real education is going to start. 

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:17 | 881413 JW n FL
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by LFMayor
on Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:10
#881388

 

I should not bait trollish hydrocephalic idiots, but from time to time I like to excercise my base pleasures.

You are a  fucking  idiot  .  Some chattering, pimply juvenile weakling that thinks CRAZY somehow elicits fear in people.  Crazy people, like my goddam ex-wife, are simply annoying.  You're not even truly crazy, you're just pretending to be to try and inflate the meanace that you exude.  You believe it enhances a menacing aura, which defracts light when you walk in front of it, right?  Son, all unpredictable means is unreliable. Real violence, from people who mean it, comes from discipline and is not used like a magic wand to buttress talking points in conversations.  So in closing, I fully wish that you someday make the mistake of speaking to others like this in the real world, instead of online.  That's when your real education is going to start. 

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Dont lie to yourself, you can see me when ever it suits you...

as for your ex-wife, I hope the crazies take more from you than she did... hows that for some clarity.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:48 | 881313 Cash_is_Trash
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Bring it down, BRING IT ALL DOWN!

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:49 | 881315 JW n FL
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wiki leaks BITCHEZ!

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:53 | 881335 Oh regional Indian
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What is the opposite of incontinence? That is what wiki dribble is really all about.

Talk about made for TV. Blood Circus. Who's going down?

But having said it before, right here, I'll say it again. As things get "harder" all around, they will cull their own herd. 

Watch for a de-iconification, which I believe began in earnest with the take-down of Tiger Woods, to escalate. 

De-iconification does two things, it destroys, often deeply,  people who held such people to be icons in the first place and second, gives a tired public some sort of visceral, vicarious release, seeing a "rich" one come down.

Oprah is due for her de-icon moment, something which will throw many black people and many many women into deep despair. It's really that deep, strangely enough, and that pervasive.

Wall-street becomes a side-show at such times.

Much 'arresting" fare and times ahead.

ORI

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2010/12/01/of-leaking-wikis-and-true-lies/

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:58 | 881354 Kreditanstalt
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Assange usually goes - quite rightly - after governments. 

Now he goes after tax resisters and tax evaders.  In collaboration with the odious government-serving "tax justice network" no less.

Isn't there some conflict in this?

I hope now he will also produce an expose program outlining how thousands of deadbeat American homeowners are getting away with free houses as their mortgages are annulled on document technicalities...

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:38 | 881491 Alcoholic Nativ...
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Sheeeee, a lot of chumps are still paying.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 11:12 | 881596 Blankman
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Perfectly stated.  I wondered the same thing.  This guy isn't even an American and he is blowing the whistle on uber-wealthly Americans who don't pay their taxes.  WTF?  Assange is now considered to be part of the uber-wealthy and he does this.  Something smells.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 11:32 | 881641 Bob
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The Press Conference frustrated most people due to their refusal to release those very names. 

I thought they made it perfectly clear that their primary reason for doing so was their desire to focus attention on international governmental collusion that aids and abets criminal tax evasion and money laundering by wealthy criminals via banks in so-called "secrecy jurisdictions."

 

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:03 | 881363 JW n FL
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He SAID "THE FED" BLOCKED FREE TAX INFO!

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:12 | 881395 JW n FL
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$20T minus $16T ='s $4T PLUS for the goobermint!

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:18 | 881421 Kreditanstalt
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The whole thing looks like a bit of a circus to me, orchestrated to gain maximum publicity for the "Tax Justice Network".  John Christenson's TJN is a virtual subsidiary of the British Labour Party and for them to proclaim at their press conference that they "hope people can make the connection between these sorts of financial activity and the cuts to social programs" is totally self-serving and disingenuous...

BTW, bring on some cuts!  And whatever happened to financial privacy in all this? 

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:25 | 881449 JW n FL
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Think big picture... threaten $20T and then you have people like George Washington who start to think freedom's are a good thing again.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:25 | 881447 youngman
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Let me know if I am on it...I know I have some money somewhere...but I forgot where i put it...

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:25 | 881448 hedgeless_horseman
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Anything, absolutely anything, to divert attention from the expense side of governments' P&Ls.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:27 | 881455 awgee
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If I remember correctly, Switzerland is a sovereign entity and no other nation has any authority to tell it how to legislate it's banking laws.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:30 | 881461 awgee
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If Julius Baer broke Swiss law, what difference does it make that he does not like it?  there are many laws I don't like here in the US.  And as far as I know, if I break those laws, no other country can or will do squat to plead my case.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:33 | 881471 JW n FL
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by awgee
on Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:30
#881461

 

If Julius Baer broke Swiss law, what difference does it make that he does not like it?  there are many laws I don't like here in the US.  And as far as I know, if I break those laws, no other country can or will do squat to plead my case.

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I guess if you where watching, instead of praying... you would know he has met with the IRS in the US and presented information... this is about attacking the structure, that is... offshore.

you cant even begin to understand what this is...

the debt ceiling for our country... after printing and printing and fucking printing is $16 Trillion dollars... the monies offshore are estimated... at $20 trillion dollars, US.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:56 | 881547 awgee
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I can't begin to understand?  Are you sure?

The debt in the US was created in the US by US laws, specifically the legislation that created the Federal Reserve, fractional reserve banking, and fiat currency.  You are totally confusing issues.

Do you think Cuba can dictate US banking laws?  Who the heck are these people that think they can tell Switzerland how to run their country?

 

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 11:11 | 881581 JW n FL
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by awgee
on Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:56
#881547

 

I can't begin to understand?  Are you sure?

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That was more a figure of speech, forgive my excitement... please?

The debt in the US was created in the US by US laws, specifically the legislation that created the Federal Reserve, fractional reserve banking, and fiat currency.  You are totally confusing issues.

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How so? the IRS collects for the US Goobermint who then can allocate said funds up yo mama's ass if it suits them.

Do you think Cuba can dictate US banking laws?  Who the heck are these people that think they can tell Switzerland how to run their country?

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This, is not about the swiss you tiwt. this is about the Cayman's and Swiss Banking Structure un-winding to pay down US debt.. or so the sales pitch will go in about 90 - 180 days... maybe longer, how much air time will this be worth? only the sheepeople can decide if this dethrowns danzig wiff da starz!

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:34 | 881475 JW n FL
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Julian!!!! BITCHEZ!

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:42 | 881508 JW n FL
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Names Bitches!!!!! go thru it all and then up on the web site!

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:47 | 881523 JW n FL
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Bloomberg has the deal for the release as well the FT's... Julian is pumping them! Oops!

the goobermint is coming for your monies!

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:48 | 881527 MiddleMeThis
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So, let me get this straight.  Even though the middle and lower classes make up the majority of the population, it's drilled into all of us that the elite are the ones pumping money into the country though purchases, taxes, etc.  However, 2,000 of those elite don't even bother to pay taxes, so money is NOT going back into the system.  Gee, go figure. 

 

Well, I'm sure if we give the elite even more benefits and tax breaks they'll be sure to start paying their taxes immediately.  See, the trickle down effect does work!!  The debts of the elite continue to trickle down to the general populous.  (end sarcasm)

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:55 | 881545 JW n FL
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+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 11:08 | 881574 savagegoose
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this better be good, i bought a  jumbo sized popcorn.

i aint no terrorist hacker, so i just cancelled my paypal and ebay accounts.

 

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 11:12 | 881595 JW n FL
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I did a long time ago...

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 11:31 | 881646 CH1
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Aren't we all terrorist hackers now?

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 11:42 | 881673 JW n FL
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if you are monkeying around with tyler, yes. you are tagged (and bagged at a later date dependant on your abilities).

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 19:42 | 882855 Hephasteus
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Hello my name is acccchhhhmed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59qFDW89ysc

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 12:03 | 881731 jesusonline
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Assange was always a lot of noise about nothing at best. At worst he's in bed with those interested to distract mass opinion and designate who are "the bad guys". At the peak of the hype there were a shitload of fanboys screaming "THIS IS THE DAWN OF A NEW AGE MAN, JUST YOU WAIT" Like, our prophet Julian paved way for some sort of "truth-coming-out-in-the-open every-day-renaissance". So where is it?

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 12:05 | 881738 Rodent Freikorps
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I give you A Truth:

Everyone has a price.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 12:15 | 881763 JW n FL
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it is not even that expensive... it is far cheaper to promote the people with ideas that you like..

Julian lacked street cred... he had to piss up the flag poll. now that he has... people find him so much more honest.

does this site have anyone with a clue who is not just some well read old fart? anyone?

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 19:41 | 882852 Hephasteus
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It's in the questioning masses. Answers better satisfy or the game will end. The problem with being on the side of truth is you get the worst fucking champions liars can create. Which is why people should stick to small champions. Well hulk is kinda big but if he does some cardio he'll lose a bit.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 12:26 | 881792 SgtShaftoe
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Elmer says he is releasing the information "in order to educate society". The list includes "high net worth individuals", multinational conglomerates and financial institutions – hedge funds". They are said to be "using secrecy as a screen to hide behind in order to avoid paying tax". They come from the US, Britain, Germany, Austria and Asia – "from all over.

 

Elmer says: "I agree with privacy in banking for the person in the street, and legitimate activity, but in these instances privacy is being abused so that big people can get big banking organisations to service them. The normal, hard-working taxpayer is being abused also.

"Once you become part of senior management," he says, "and gain international experience, as I did, then you are part of the inner circle – and things become much clearer. You are part of the plot. You know what the real products and service are, and why they are so expensive. It should be no surprise that the main product is secrecy … Crimes are committed and lies spread in order to protect this secrecy."

Well Elmer, Julian, I'm interested and I'm waiting for a good explanation.  I'm not exactly sure how I can be enlightened without the disclosure of individuals however.  I think a few politicians skirts being ripped off would be very enlightening, healthy for the country and really just plain fun.  This has the potential to be some badly needed antiseptic poured over the face of the world, but my cynically jaded side of me is tap tap tapping on my shoulder.  It is nearly impossible for a person in public eye to be void of an agenda.  What is Julian's agenda this time?

Though I can understand the usefulness of creating a media circus, I wish they'd just release the info already. 

 

 

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 12:29 | 881804 KickIce
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Just goes to show you how desperate they are for money.

Look forward to seeing how many politicians are on the list.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 13:06 | 881920 glenlloyd
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So let me get this right, the Swiss government can break their own law by releasing this information to the US but a private individual cannot break the law, that's essentially what's being said.

Sort of reminds me of the US in a way, Timmay can get away without paying his taxes but I certainly could not....

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 13:19 | 881966 JW n FL
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the problem is now, as it always has beeeeeeeeen. the .00000000000000000000000000000000001% of the populace that can phathom, sort and preeeeeeeeeen the information can NOT! make the other....

99999999999999999999.999999999999999999999999999999999999% get a fucking clue, EVER!

we are doomed becuase of them, us and them... its thier fault. lol

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 13:51 | 882051 Rick64
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 This will be used to implement international tax laws towards a one world government. I am losing hope of Wikileaks being a truth exposing media outlet.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 16:15 | 882407 Hephasteus
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No psychotics or sociopaths were harmed in the making of this film- end

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 21:57 | 883111 Pumpanddump
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Guess the Chinese aren't the only ones holding massive US$$'s overseas

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