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Just Released: Julian Assange Op-Ed In The Australian

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Just released in The Australian

Don't shoot messenger for revealing uncomfortable truths

IN 1958 a young Rupert Murdoch, then owner and editor of Adelaide's The News, wrote: "In the race between secrecy and truth, it seems inevitable that truth will always win."

His observation perhaps reflected his father Keith Murdoch's expose that Australian troops were being needlessly sacrificed by incompetent British commanders on the shores of Gallipoli. The British tried to shut him up but Keith Murdoch would not be silenced and his efforts led to the termination of the disastrous Gallipoli campaign.

Nearly a century later, WikiLeaks is also fearlessly publishing facts that need to be made public.

I grew up in a Queensland country town where people spoke their minds bluntly. They distrusted big government as something that could be corrupted if not watched carefully. The dark days of corruption in the Queensland government before the Fitzgerald inquiry are testimony to what happens when the politicians gag the media from reporting the truth.

These things have stayed with me. WikiLeaks was created around these core values. The idea, conceived in Australia, was to use internet technologies in new ways to report the truth.

WikiLeaks coined a new type of journalism: scientific journalism. We work with other media outlets to bring people the news, but also to prove it is true. Scientific journalism allows you to read a news story, then to click online to see the original document it is based on. That way you can judge for yourself: Is the story true? Did the journalist report it accurately?

Democratic societies need a strong media and WikiLeaks is part of that media. The media helps keep government honest. WikiLeaks has revealed some hard truths about the Iraq and Afghan wars, and broken stories about corporate corruption.

People have said I am anti-war: for the record, I am not. Sometimes nations need to go to war, and there are just wars. But there is nothing more wrong than a government lying to its people about those wars, then asking these same citizens to put their lives and their taxes on the line for those lies. If a war is justified, then tell the truth and the people will decide whether to support it.

If you have read any of the Afghan or Iraq war logs, any of the US embassy cables or any of the stories about the things WikiLeaks has reported, consider how important it is for all media to be able to report these things freely.

WikiLeaks is not the only publisher of the US embassy cables. Other media outlets, including Britain's The Guardian, The New York Times, El Pais in Spain and Der Spiegel in Germany have published the same redacted cables.

Yet it is WikiLeaks, as the co-ordinator of these other groups, that has copped the most vicious attacks and accusations from the US government and its acolytes. I have been accused of treason, even though I am an Australian, not a US, citizen. There have been dozens of serious calls in the US for me to be "taken out" by US special forces. Sarah Palin says I should be "hunted down like Osama bin Laden", a Republican bill sits before the US Senate seeking to have me declared a "transnational threat" and disposed of accordingly. An adviser to the Canadian Prime Minister's office has called on national television for me to be assassinated. An American blogger has called for my 20-year-old son, here in Australia, to be kidnapped and harmed for no other reason than to get at me.

And Australians should observe with no pride the disgraceful pandering to these sentiments by Julia Gillard and her government. The powers of the Australian government appear to be fully at the disposal of the US as to whether to cancel my Australian passport, or to spy on or harass WikiLeaks supporters. The Australian Attorney-General is doing everything he can to help a US investigation clearly directed at framing Australian citizens and shipping them to the US.

Prime Minister Gillard and US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton have not had a word of criticism for the other media organisations. That is because The Guardian, The New York Times and Der Spiegel are old and large, while WikiLeaks is as yet young and small.

We are the underdogs. The Gillard government is trying to shoot the messenger because it doesn't want the truth revealed, including information about its own diplomatic and political dealings.

Has there been any response from the Australian government to the numerous public threats of violence against me and other WikiLeaks personnel? One might have thought an Australian prime minister would be defending her citizens against such things, but there have only been wholly unsubstantiated claims of illegality. The Prime Minister and especially the Attorney-General are meant to carry out their duties with dignity and above the fray. Rest assured, these two mean to save their own skins. They will not.

Every time WikiLeaks publishes the truth about abuses committed by US agencies, Australian politicians chant a provably false chorus with the State Department: "You'll risk lives! National security! You'll endanger troops!" Then they say there is nothing of importance in what WikiLeaks publishes. It can't be both. Which is it?

It is neither. WikiLeaks has a four-year publishing history. During that time we have changed whole governments, but not a single person, as far as anyone is aware, has been harmed. But the US, with Australian government connivance, has killed thousands in the past few months alone.

US Secretary of Defence Robert Gates admitted in a letter to the US congress that no sensitive intelligence sources or methods had been compromised by the Afghan war logs disclosure. The Pentagon stated there was no evidence the WikiLeaks reports had led to anyone being harmed in Afghanistan. NATO in Kabul told CNN it couldn't find a single person who needed protecting. The Australian Department of Defence said the same. No Australian troops or sources have been hurt by anything we have published.

But our publications have been far from unimportant. The US diplomatic cables reveal some startling facts:

  • The US asked its diplomats to steal personal human material and information from UN officials and human rights groups, including DNA, fingerprints, iris scans, credit card numbers, internet passwords and ID photos, in violation of international treaties. Presumably Australian UN diplomats may be targeted, too.
  • King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia asked the US to attack Iran.
  • Officials in Jordan and Bahrain want Iran's nuclear program stopped by any means available.
  • Britain's Iraq inquiry was fixed to protect "US interests".
  • Sweden is a covert member of NATO and US intelligence sharing is kept from parliament.
  • The US is playing hardball to get other countries to take freed detainees from Guantanamo Bay. Barack Obama agreed to meet the Slovenian President only if Slovenia took a prisoner. Our Pacific neighbour Kiribati was offered millions of dollars to accept detainees.

In its landmark ruling in the Pentagon Papers case, the US Supreme Court said "only a free and unrestrained press can effectively expose deception in government". The swirling storm around WikiLeaks today reinforces the need to defend the right of all media to reveal the truth.

Julian Assange is the editor-in-chief of WikiLeaks.

 

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Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:32 | 785284 BobPaulson
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I wonder how much was spent on setting this guy up for the charges they pinned to him. At least now he's getting more press.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:12 | 785434 Clayton Bigsby
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he's just lucky we got to him before he really pissed off someone like the russians - my money says they would have just vanished his ass and that would have been the end of it

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:27 | 785494 BobPaulson
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I think his big mistake was letting them make Wikileaks be about him. Perhaps that would have been hard to prevent but it seems the guy is foolishly enjoying the limelight.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 12:38 | 785863 chumbawamba
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Or perhaps, after sitting around watching all the bullshit being thrown at us go unchallenged and hoping for someone to do what needs to be done, he grew tired of waiting and has decided to take it upon himself.

And not a whiff of gratitude for it.  For shame.

I am Chumbawamba.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 12:53 | 785933 Cognitive Dissonance
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Nice to see you slumming around ZH again my friend.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 13:05 | 785983 chumbawamba
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Thanks for holding down the fort, good friend.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 18:09 | 787162 DaveyJones
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good to see you. well said as usual. History is just as much made of individuals as it is trends

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 13:09 | 785991 Real Estate Geek
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check the spelling of his name, CD.  IIRC, the original was chumbawUmba

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 13:46 | 786154 Cognitive Dissonance
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Nope, this is the one and only chumbawamba. I asked for a DNA sample and he peed in my hands to prove to me he's the real thing.

Brings new meaning to the term ZH golden shower. :>)

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 13:05 | 785985 piceridu
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well said

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 13:59 | 786211 Secunda
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  Good comment. The Press needs to do a better job of being skeptical and get back to good old-fashioned muck-raking.

  But I disagree a bit.

  There is a big difference between investigative reporting and stealing information. Assange has hurt at least one person: PFC Manning. That guy is facing decades in jail for answering Assange's tempting siren song to be an informant. Manning could have gone to the NYT, Der Speigel, or any one of a number of legitimate news outlets and had himself (as a source) protected somewhat. 

  If you had a letter to a lover stolen by the mail carrier and subsequently published in the local newspaper that your spouse read daily how would you feel? Violated? Ripped-off?

 

 

 

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 16:54 | 786760 hugomarch
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Well intentioned paragraph but now for the facts.  wikileaks has a full proof information submission system.  PFC Manning spilled the beans himself (bragged) in an online chat with a hacker-cum-informant. 

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 16:54 | 786761 hugomarch
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Well intentioned paragraph but now for the facts.  wikileaks has a full proof information submission system.  PFC Manning spilled the beans himself (bragged) in an online chat with a hacker-cum-informant. 

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 16:28 | 786731 hugomarch
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Wow - wikileak tweets down to a trickle.  It's a dark day for the spilling of classified information. 

Thu, 12/09/2010 - 10:34 | 792232 Z
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Try this on for size: http://cryptome.org/0001/assange-cpunks.htm

 

[edit: condom pun unintentional]

Wed, 12/08/2010 - 04:39 | 788207 Morbo
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A LOT I suspect! Consider though that they can find a 30-something hiding out for breaking a condom during a Swedish sexual interlude but "they" still can't find a guy needing continuous kidney dialysis  named Osama bin Laden... Ya gots ta have ya priorities dammit!

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 08:23 | 1576522 mediahuset
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Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:32 | 785286 b_thunder
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But in mid-1990s the same Rupert Murdoch decided that in the race between truth and profits, profits win.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:34 | 785292 LFMayor
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He didn't sell out man... he bought in! ;)

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:38 | 785304 goldfish1
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Hackers take down website of bank that froze WikiLeaks funds

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/hackers-website-bank-froz e-wikileaks-funds/

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:52 | 785358 Bob
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It's back up now, but this is only the first at-bat of the first inning.  This will not turn out well for TPTB, imo.  An entire generation or two have been primed by lifetimes of movies and video games to commit to this cause:

With the financial noose tightening around WikiLeaks even as a legal one tightens around its founder's neck, Operation Payback has effectively declared war on the organizations working to hobble WikiLeaks.

"In these modern times, Internet access is fast becoming a basic human right," the group says in a video posted to YouTube. "Just like any other basic human right, we believe it is wrong to infringe upon it."

 

GOOD LUCK SKYNET . . .

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 18:16 | 787169 DaveyJones
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been thinkin along those lines. The young, the ones the most screwed by these lies and theft, are the ultimate masters of these weapons and the new battlefield has little to do with caves, heroin, and desert 

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:52 | 785360 Duuude
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Lisbeth Salander

 

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:01 | 785401 Julia
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With this Operation Payback org, I don't think there will be any problem in getting the rest of the data out if anything happens to Julian.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:15 | 785445 ajax
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I reiterate from an earlier post:

Here's a bit more from the Swiss end of this story:

http://genevalunch.com/blog/2010/12/06/wikileaks-founder-tells-world-hes...

Funny thing about CH Postfinance accounts: all illegal Brazilian and African "cabaret artistes" seem to get them easily enough as well as illegal Central American "mains-d'oeuvre" and Assange had one too in spite of that little exaggeration about 'living' in Geneve but now Postfinance has changed its mind about the most famous Australian on the planet...

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:54 | 785363 Accidental Farmer
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Just like Alan Greenspan - He used to be a strong defender of the gold standard. Look what that wrinkled turd turned in to.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:34 | 785294 kridkrid
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I want to believe.  Cynicism has a slippery slope.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:50 | 785354 Cognitive Dissonance
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Believing doesn't mean you must believe the entire meme. You can understand that the messenger is corrupt but the data is good. Or both are good. Or both are corrupt. There are many permutations to recognize.

The problem comes when we wish to have our explanations served up already chewed and easily digestible. Is you life uncomplicated? I doubt it. So why would the "truth" be simple and easy to understand. It's our expectations that are distorted, not reality or the method is delivery.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:56 | 785372 Bob
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Bingo.  I can't understand why this notion amounts to rocket science for many . . . but I spose that's my expectations speaking.  It is what it is.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:28 | 785499 ajax
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"It is what it is"? What the f--- does that mean exactly for anyone who doesn't spend their time in some burb in California? It is what it is which is a lazy unthinking person's excuse for not having to grow up and learn how to read and write and think for his/her self and take part in a community without which we are all doomed because quite simply no one is alone in any of this f---ing mess. Stockpiles of gold, beans, Evian water, bad grammar and solipsisms are really not all that helpful Mr. USA.   

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:41 | 785563 Bob
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LOL.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:43 | 785566 Confused
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Wow. You ok? 

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:22 | 785470 kridkrid
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Yeah... I'm with you and I agree with you, but one permutation to recognize is, of course, that we are seeing exactly what we are supposed to see.  If that is the case, it doesn't really matter how much of it is true, no?

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 12:32 | 785836 Cognitive Dissonance
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...but one permutation to recognize is, of course, that we are seeing exactly what we are supposed to see.

This is the one constant truth in the world. And a great place to start. I don't mean believe nothing. Just that a critical eye must be applied both to what we're being told as well as who is delivering and the context.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:31 | 785511 Max Hunter
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correct CD. This is why i'm very suspicious and will reserve my acceptance of these "leaks" until I see who they benefit..

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 12:27 | 785811 Z
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Best position at the moment.

Everything leading up to the endgame is just pretense.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 12:08 | 785689 Drachma
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My questions would be:

1. What exactly did Assange reveal that we did not know from other sources already?

2. On what basis do people make the assumption that Assange's data hacks are not tainted with false 'secrets'. This is an age-old military tactic. Hasn't anyone ever heard of the phrases "War is deception." or "PsyOp"?

3. Has anyone honestly researched the background of this newly minted prophet of the people? Think, Anne Hamilton Byrne cult out of Melbourne Australia.

4. Why is my state-sponsored propaganda ministry called the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC) spending an unusual amount of time on Assange, national security and the dangers of the Internet?

5. Why does it seem that a lot of the CIA-style spin in these data dumps gives Obama justification for continued invasions into Iran and Pakistan.

6. And then there is this headline out of the Atalantic, "Lebanese Newspaper Puiblishes U.S. Cables Not Found on Wikileaks". http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2010/12/lebanese-newspa...

There is just too much linear thinking when it comes to this guy Assange and it's being coddled along by the MSM. Hacked CIA = Hero of the People, or Hacked CIA = Enemy of the State. Let's keep everyone debating nonsense while the banksters take down your livelihood and gut what little remains of your rights and freedoms. Perfect distractions.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 12:36 | 785853 Cognitive Dissonance
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There is just too much linear thinking when it comes to this guy Assange and it's being coddled along by the MSM.

The really good magician understands that the real "trick" of the magic trick is all in the mind. Present the meme to the subject in such a way that the subject will arrive at the "proper" conclusion. After all, we always believe ourselves when we've arrived at our own conclusions, right?

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 12:46 | 785902 Drachma
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But reality can't be that intricate and nuanced, could it? I thought we were living on the set of Mary Poppins. Please tell me it's not all a lie. How do I break the news to my children?

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 12:46 | 785899 blunderdog
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Perfect distractions.

Yeah, totally, WHATEVER you do, don't look at the cables.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 14:07 | 786238 CrockettAlmanac.com
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What exactly did Assange reveal that we did not know from other sources already?

If that is true then you should be able to recite the entire contents of all cables including those that have not yet been released. Please begin.

 

On what basis do people make the assumption that Assange's data hacks are not tainted with false 'secrets'. This is an age-old military tactic. Hasn't anyone ever heard of the phrases "War is deception." or "PsyOp"?

As you claim to have previously known the content of the cables then you should already have an answer for this, right? Or were you lying about already knowing the entire contents of the cables?

 

Why does it seem that a lot of the CIA-style spin in these data dumps gives Obama justification for continued invasions into Iran and Pakistan.

Are you surprised that leaked US government documents present a US government viewpoint?

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 17:52 | 787118 Drachma
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I don't exactly understand your first statement. Yes my question is a true question, I am not making a statement of fact. If you have a definitive answer to the question I have asked I am willing to listen. Your second statement builds on the thought convulsions of the first. But to answer your last question, of course I am not suprised that leaked government documents, as you claim, present a US government viewpoint among other information. I hope that helps. Lets just see how much better Assange has made all of our lives. Funny though you should use the word 'leaked'. Don't forget to give credit where credit is due, they were not leaked remember, they were hacked by the master hacker hero Assange. All hail Assange!

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 19:30 | 787374 CrockettAlmanac.com
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How are my first and second questions "convoluted?" If you claim that everybody already knows what is in the leaked cables then you should be able to tell me what is in each and every one of them. Your claim of knowledge of the cables implies that that knowledge represents true facts and so you should be able to discern if the cables include disinformation.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:35 | 785296 Mercury
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WikiLeaks coined a new type of journalism: scientific journalism. We work with other media outlets to bring people the news, but also to prove it is true. Scientific journalism allows you to read a news story, then to click online to see the original document it is based on. That way you can judge for yourself: Is the story true? Did the journalist report it accurately?

Are you fucking serious? You think you invented primary source citation?

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:41 | 785318 unwashedmass
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since no one does anything like that any more and it was just lying there abandonned on the side of the road, i don't see why not?

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:07 | 785420 Manbarepig
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+1

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:59 | 785393 Bob
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There is a qualitative difference in web-based sourcing, in that it actively enables the reader to instantly check original cited source material in whole.  It's a major advance. 

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:10 | 785427 redpill
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He doesn't just cite the source, he publishes the source, in it's entirety, and for immediate viewing online. Claims to inventing the practice might be a stretch, but regardless it's an important role.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 12:21 | 785502 Mercury
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It's an important role/major advance to the extent that you consider it a "startling fact" that bears are using the woods as a bathroom - which is what most Wikileaks journalism has so far amounted to.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 13:20 | 786038 Real Estate Geek
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+1 with respect to Wikileaks journalism, per se.  But considering the sorry state of MSM, which has devolved into nothing more than PR for TPTB, I'll take Wikileaks' journalism with a smile.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:35 | 785297 CPL
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I have five bucks in a dead pool that he's dead by the end of the week.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:38 | 785312 kridkrid
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To what end (and whose end) would that serve?  Would people care?  Who would respond and what would the response be?  I think he lives.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:56 | 785377 Accidental Farmer
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He could be a straight up plant to rally the sheople around internet censorship.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:34 | 785523 ajax
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What sort of plant are you? Sui generis most probably.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:43 | 785324 BobPaulson
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Too obvious. First some more bullshit stories have to come out confusing the issues. I'm thinking another splinter site filled with UFO, Tiger Woods and JFK "information", perhaps with a few greenpeace activists who had sex without written consent in quadruplicate from the partner. A bunch of doubt has to be mixed in with it before we find out he's actually a heroin addict rapidly deteriorating while in custody in a friendly Yemeni or Uzbekistani detention centre. He'll overdose while on a plane to freedom on his way to see a lawyer for the first time in public since his voluntary consent to incarceration after signing a few dozen confessions to espionage, rape, double parking and treason.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:52 | 785361 Cognitive Dissonance
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It's the double parking that will send you up river. Those state bureaucrats are killers.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:33 | 785519 BobPaulson
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Hey, I'm on the verge of exile to Chad or some similar tropical paradise for my balooning list of photo radar forced taxation hits (never speed in Edmonton Canada without a stolen car). Soon I'll be the Idi Amin Dada of driving through construction zones at 40km/h at midnight when there are no workers at risk.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 18:26 | 787204 DaveyJones
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Ive overturned them in my state. It is definitely a tax, not a safety issue and it does not follow the evidence rules of foundation. On a side note, the US District Court however has already upheld the ability of the govt to fine you even if you were not the driver! That's a first and proof its about money not safety.    

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 12:50 | 785920 chumbawamba
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No it's not, parking tickets are easy to beat.

City of San Jose - 0

Chumbawamba - 1

I am Chumbawamba.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:38 | 785543 ajax
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Oh but gee haven't you read it on the internet? JFK was 'taken out' because he wanted to put an end to the Federal Reserve System!! Oh yes it's all there for you to read and it's all crap.

On the other hand Assange is not crap.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:50 | 785602 kridkrid
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So who took out JFK?  Can I read all about it in the Warren Commission?

Wed, 12/08/2010 - 00:03 | 787995 StychoKiller
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Everyone with any sense knows it was John Dillinger III.

See works by R.A. Wilson

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:37 | 785301 dickbar
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Wikileaks is so obviously an intelligence agency op.... i cannot believe people still harp on about it... if there can be court battles about papers publishing wheteher John Terry boshed his team mate's wife for weeks... how can there be no court case to keep this rubbish out of the NYT/Spiegel/Guardian??... it's a joke. All the agenda's to come out if the 'leaks' suit TPTB down to the ground too... Wikileaks is nothing but an 'X-Factor/Pop Idol' for those who believe themselves to be intellectual. Absolute load of rubbish

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:08 | 785415 Bob
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I'm surprised that another wing of the "bottomless hole of paranoia" party has not turned upon the "deniers" out here as intelligence agency psyop agents themselves

It makes just as much sense as their claims to this greater wisdom about Assange.  Hey, just apply that same common sense to these tireless messengers.  One that they should be able to believe in.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:22 | 785473 clymer
Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:35 | 785527 Bob
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Oooh, I shiver every time I hear that name: Soros.  Ooooooo.

Say it again:  Soros.  OOOooooh.

It's just irresistable.  Don't stop

Sorry, but at this point the paranoid wing of the opposition is looking like a bunch of fanatical useful idiots to me.  At best. 

Look at the bigger picture . . . like most people do.  Or carry on like an "obvious" psyops agent. 

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 12:03 | 785665 mtomato2
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Bob, you're O.K., but your take on Soros is just plain wrong.  He is arguably a very dangerous man.  A progressive globalist with unlimited funds and rock-solid conviction to carry out any little thing his old, gristled heart desires.

There IS such a thing as truly dangerous people, and Soros is one of them.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 15:25 | 786492 Bob
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There is no defensible reason for hijacking the debate here and diverting it to Soros--even if Soros is Satan himself. 

What's going on in response to wikileaks goes way beyond wikileaks itself. 

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:41 | 785559 ajax
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Glenn Beck funded tears of hucksterism. Give me Soros any day.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 12:00 | 785651 mtomato2
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Quite possibly the dumbest thing I have ever read.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 17:47 | 787100 DavidPierre
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GoePol !!!   Goepol !!  geopol!

Where the hell are you?

Oh!... there you are.  Over @ Infowars with Alex exposing all this recent wikileaks piss and shit.

Please!... don't give up on all the traders/boneheads here on ZH ... most have so much to learn about how the real world works and the history of USSA/CIA disinformation over the past 50 years.

 

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 21:23 | 787654 Bob
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This is what happened.  He threw up what he apparently regarded as a brilliant piece exposing Fox's Nazi heritage.  Yes, that's right.  Literally Nazi, going back to the Third Reich itself.   

He got his ass roundly busted for it, and hard.  It was wildly sensational and politically partisan, not to mention socially ignorant beyond belief.  It seemed to break his spirit. 

He followed up with a twelve-part history of Venetian power politics that was dryly uninteresting and widely ignored.  He hasn't been back since, as either Geopol or Webster Tarpley. 

So he's sharing his brilliance elsewhere, you say.  Probably a good idea, that. 

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:38 | 785305 wiskeyrunner
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Yep just another 1.00% gap up on the open for SPY, nothing new here.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:38 | 785310 dickbar
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please wake up and stop raving about wikileaks... you do yourselves zerofavours zerohedge

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 12:04 | 785669 mtomato2
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O.K. 

 

Now THAT'S the dumbest thing I've ever read.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 15:32 | 786511 ViewfromUnderth...
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It's still early...

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 23:04 | 787851 RECISION
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Hahaha  :-)

+1

The depths of human stupidity is boundless.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:39 | 785314 Gimp
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Just wondering the method, suicide by shoe lace, hit and run, overdose and the list continues....

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:44 | 785332 Eternal Student
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Broken condom.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:43 | 785570 ajax
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No condom. Broken promises.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:45 | 785575 nowhereman
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Condom indeed, I didn't realize that I live in a world where consensual sex without a condom can result in an International Arrest Warrant.  Is no-one in Law enforcement just a little embarassed?

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 23:06 | 787858 RECISION
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Apparently not... not these days.

That's what psychometric testing is for.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:45 | 785341 BobPaulson
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You forgot to falling down the stairs 37 times or shooting himself 7 times in the head with a .44 magnum.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:55 | 785371 Cognitive Dissonance
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Don't forget the superficial self inflicted slashes to the wrist (using the wrong hand of course) before the 7 self inflicted gunshot wounds to the head.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:38 | 785541 Max Hunter
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What about the "lone nut" that always conveniently appears historically.

We still have the "Arabs that hate us for our freedom" to use at our disposal as well..

And the "heart attack" in the backyard pool seems to be a crowd favorite..  

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:47 | 785585 ajax
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Don't forget the pet cat what sucketh the breathing life from its trusting caregiver...quite ugly when you think about it. I do love my cats.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 12:26 | 785806 Cognitive Dissonance
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Here pussy pussy.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:06 | 785416 CPL
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You just mentioned high speed lead poisoning.  My thought is they put him in a cell with Rolo the mad rapist and he's assraped to death or something.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:50 | 785599 ajax
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There is no such thing and you have just exposed your sexual fantasies to everyone on this mailing list, lil' child. Naive of you.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:42 | 785316 Temporalist
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I would think every press organization in the world would be rallying around Assange because if he goes down what hope do any of them have?  They should be more concerned of protecting their own rights than protecting their "privilege" to access politicians.

 

According to the UK police Assange won't be allowed bail for his own protection.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:49 | 785351 BobPaulson
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Are you assuming these organizations are in favour of a free press? That's a bit of a jump.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:01 | 785403 Temporalist
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No actually I'm pointing out the hypocrisy.  I realize the corporatocracy is all one big mega-shit-sandwich of propaganda.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:54 | 785368 lizzy36
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The single thing this episode has taught me is that the Corporate Overlords, work in concert with the Government of the US, it is a quid pro quo relationship (wt did Visa cut Wikileaks off this morning). Transparency, freedom of speech, the 4th estate, all quaint notions (like risk and moral hazard).

And every one can dismiss Assange as a egomaniac (blah, blah). But to watch the aforementioned groups circle the wagons, is awe inspiring and fucking fear inducing.

If  this eposide didn't scare you, didn't make you realize how broken the American version of democracy is, then you haven't been paying attention.

 

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:05 | 785413 BigJim
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What really depresses me is how Switzerland, Sweden etc are playing along. I still had a few notions of national independence left.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:14 | 785443 Bob
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It certainly simplifies the battlefield, though, and organizes opposition purely along real ideological lines. 

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 23:10 | 787869 RECISION
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Which is step one, to starting a war is it not?

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:20 | 785461 I am a Man I am...
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no doubt, major disappointment, maybe singapore and new zealand will fill the void

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 23:17 | 787885 RECISION
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You have got to be joking: Singapore???

That's the purest form of state-corporatism on the planet.

Free speech is vorbotten. Do some google searches.

NZ, maybe... 50/50 chance.

 

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 12:47 | 785906 bankonzhongguo
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People always think of countries as being singular bastions of power, yet Sweden and Switzerland each have a population smaller than Los Angeles.

So by extension, besides the "language barrier," getting things done in these countries is about the same as getting a traffic ticket fixed in Beverly Hills.

 

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:52 | 785608 CH1
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The "Press" are State Intellectuals - our version of the medieval priesthood.

Every state needs a sub-class that convinces the sheep to obey and serve. Otherwise you need far too many thugs to go out and pry money out of people's hands. It's too expensive. Convincing them to obey is necessary.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:44 | 785328 TheGoat
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Report the TRUTH, I'm no sheep.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:45 | 785337 americanspirit
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If the Swedish war industry which evidently has already corrupted the Swedish governnment on behalf of the US war machine then Julian Assange would be being nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize rather than being put on InterPol's top 10 most wanted list for not wearing a rubber. Where are all you supposedly democracy-loving Swedes and why have you allowed your government, which did not toady to Adolf Hitler, to be subverted by the likes of George Bush and Barack Obama? SKAM! får

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:55 | 785623 ajax
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The Nobel Prize. The Enlightened Swedes. USA wouldn't pay a lick of attention to Sweden were it not for the "Nobel".

It was never awarded to Vladimir Nabokov who was the greatest writer of the 20th century.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:46 | 785339 I am more equal...
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I'm starting a website call Wikileaks Soap on a Rope.  The soap will be phallic shaped - Julian will become familar with that shape quite often and in terms that will cause him to leak all sorts of fluids.  The soap will come with a condom..... and enough rope asphyxiate the smallest of necks.  Pricing to be determined by length of the desired phallic.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:03 | 785409 Crummy
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Seems like a bit of a niche market item. I'd see what kind of orders you got before you went into production on that.

 

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:57 | 785632 ajax
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You've nothing better to do with your time?

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:45 | 785343 CD
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Sorry to double-post, but this is hilarious:

Fed forced to 'quarantine' one billion $100 bills after printing error makes them worthless

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1336287/Fed-forced-quarantine-1b-100-bills-printing-error-makes-worthless.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

You can't make this sh*t up. 1B in $100 bills with Timmah's signature misprinted.

"The new high-tech bills were initially scheduled for release in February of 2011. They were due to be the first in circulation that bore the signature of President Obama's treasury secretary, Timothy Geithner. [...] 

After printing, officials discovered that some of the new bills have a vertical crease that, when the sides of the bill are pulled, unfolds and reveals a blank space on the face of the bill. [...] The sheer numbers are staggering. Authorities estimated that sorting through the enormous pile of bills by hand could take 20 to 30 years. Instead they are developing a mechanised way of sorting the usable notes from the flawed ones - a process that they hope will only take a year. There was no estimate on how much the sorting process will cost."

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:59 | 785645 ajax
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Wait a minute, they said it was just an electronic push of a button....

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 14:15 | 786276 gratefultraveller
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Well, at least being cash it will trickle down

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:59 | 785646 ajax
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Wait a minute, they said it was just an electronic push of a button....

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 12:42 | 785887 Syntaxkat
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Seems like the perfect time to start printing Gold Backed Dollars,  just start the presses again and it should be ready in 8 months to a yr.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 14:16 | 786280 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Authorities estimated that sorting through the enormous pile of bills by hand could take 20 to 30 years.

That's just the FRN reject pile. And the Bernank says there's no inflation.

Thu, 12/09/2010 - 03:48 | 791755 techperson
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Why are they printing $110 billion in new currency, when there is only $930 billion in circulation?

Oh, the inflation thing....

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:49 | 785350 AgileArjuna
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If scientific journalism is the idea, he needs only direct readers to ae911truth.org.  Annoying, I know.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:51 | 785352 Geronimo66
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For fuck sake Tyler! Rupert Murdoch (BskyB) is one of the worrest!

Murdering Tron and Marcus Kuhn (also hacker) would be dead if he did not switched his working field and got involved with Sky.

http://bit.ly/fIsjqH

http://bit.ly/hCQy5b

 

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:51 | 785355 VFR
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its time he went for  walk in the woods.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:58 | 785387 Dapper Dan
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3 go out, 2 come back!

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 13:33 | 786088 Real Estate Geek
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Leave the gun.  Take the cannoli.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHzh0PvMWTI

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:54 | 785364 johnnymustardseed
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We lie, we invade, we murder, we torture and when someone rightly points it out the elite threaten them with death. Who the fuck are we?

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 12:02 | 785661 ajax
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Arrogant psychopathic murderers, that's who.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 12:03 | 785662 ajax
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Arrogant psychopathic murderers, that's who.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 12:10 | 785696 mtomato2
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ajax needs less coffee.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 12:09 | 785698 mtomato2
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ajax needs less coffee.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 12:10 | 785702 mtomato2
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ajax needs less coffee.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 12:10 | 785703 mtomato2
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ajax needs less coffee.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 12:27 | 785809 ajax
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Ajax needs a better broadband connection. Coffee is for the morning, sister, and it's 17:26 where Ajax is. Got it?

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 14:18 | 786290 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Coffee -- it's what's for dinner.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:55 | 785369 Geronimo66
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OT but quiet interesting regarding Rupert Murdoch.

In 2005 Premiere World (German pay tv) got hacked. Guess who was behind it? Guess what encryption system is now used by Premiere World? Guess who has a big stake in PW after that hack in 2005?

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:57 | 785380 Cognitive Dissonance
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I give up.

Who?

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:08 | 785411 Geronimo66
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Good old Rupert destroyed the faith in the Nagra encryption system used by Premiere World. By supporting a complete Nagra hack.

The hack came out on Cerebro smartcards. And it sold quiet well. I had the luck to stuff the turkey at the end of 2005 big time. Sold thousands of those Cerebro smartcards.

Rupert Murdoch pushed his NDS encryption system to Premiere World in 2007 and got a big stake in Premiere World.

http://bit.ly/gHIjmr

For me Rupert Murdoch is one of the worrest on this planet. And totaly unacceptable that Tyler has anything positive on this MF'er.

 

 

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:30 | 785509 CD
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Dude, read the article again. It's Assange using Murdoch (or rather, Rupert's father) as an (extremely tongue-in-cheek) example of the importance of free speech and uncompromising journalism. Doing so partly b/c he is speaking to an Australian audience, and I think b/c of the hilarity of shaming Rupert by reminding him of the journalistic integrity (or at least pursuit of openness) exemplified by Murdoch Sr.

Tyler is just posting the editorial.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:39 | 785547 Geronimo66
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Well "dude" same to you. Read again.

Anyway more than likely JA will "commit suicide" if you know what I mean...

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 12:05 | 785671 ajax
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The Federal Reserve System?

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 12:06 | 785677 ajax
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The Federal Reserve System????

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:56 | 785374 Internet Tough Guy
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And the cartel whacks gold. Just buy the fucking dip.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:56 | 785379 ShankyS
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First ammendment rights

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Thanks to Homeland Security all of this is dead. Just take a black marker and start crossing shit out like a released CIA doc. This is bull shit. I get the importance of security and protecting troups, but the truth is the truth and sometime it hurts. The press/blogosphere are there to assist us in keeping an eye on government (well, correction, the press WAS there). Without our ability to speak the truth we are no better than living in a fascist state. Assange persecution is bullshit. 

 

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:01 | 785402 Dapper Dan
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The second amendment is there to enforce the first amendment.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:00 | 785396 RSDallas
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He hasn't published anything that I have seen that would Jeopardize the security of any Nation.  Now he may have hurt some peoples feelings and maybe some people are feeling bad about making some elementary school comments about someone else behind their backs.  Just goes to show that you shouldn't ever say anything about anyone else that you wouldn't feel comfortable saying directly to that other person.

I don't see any of his reports as being much different than what is reported in the gossip magazines. 

Move on, this guy has had a chip on his shoulder because he never figured out a way to profit on Wikipedia.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 14:21 | 786300 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Move on, this guy has had a chip on his shoulder because he never figured out a way to profit on Wikipedia.

 

Wikipedia is a completely different outfit. So what was your point?

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:03 | 785406 Temporalist
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If all of you aren't wearing a rubber right now Interpol is looking for you.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 12:08 | 785688 ajax
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They just want your Glenn Gould albums is all but don't give in.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:12 | 785426 TDoS
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I'm so sick of people giving this guy shit.  He is putting his life on the line to do a public service, exposing the crimes of the PTB, and instead of being angry at them for what they've done, people give wikileaks sh*t for exposing it.

The public is SO DAMN FICKLE! You don't know what you want, other than to complain and gripe and pretend that everything is an intelligence front.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.  Now sit back and appreciate it.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:54 | 785621 CH1
Tue, 12/07/2010 - 12:11 | 785712 mtomato2
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"...It is what it is..."

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 12:13 | 785726 ajax
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Damn right. Assange Rukes OK. Stop trying to tear a guy down who went further than any of you were ever prepared to go. Assange is out on the edge and none of you could stand the dizzying heights: VERTIGE.

Begin by listening to Bach fugues, get yourselves out of your cultural ghettos and go up to where you want to be.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:19 | 785457 Kina
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I'm so sick of people giving this guy shit.  He is putting his life on the line to do a public service, exposing the crimes of the PTB, and instead of being angry at them for what they've done, people give wikileaks sh*t for exposing it.

 

Have to agree, takes more guts than most people to make yourself the focus of hatred of world governments and nasty corporations.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:20 | 785462 Ruth
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That's his attempt of lines in the sand?, I'm sorry but, there's too many sheeple plugged into DA TEEVEE, which insures all oligarchs and der clubs want only silence in the peanut gallery.

Even if I can't handle the truth, I'm on truth's side!  Now, where's my rose-colored glasses...OH THAT'S RIGHT I CRUSHED THEM WHILE READING ZEROHEDGE;)  Thanks Zerohedge and Wiki!  even if i can't see clearly now i see better than before!

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:21 | 785471 Kina
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Now we starting to read on some blogs not only boycott Sweden, Amazon etc... but also US companies. Just a trickle right now

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:25 | 785485 johnnymustardseed
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One of the women that is accusing WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange of sex crimes appears to have worked with a group that has connections to the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).

James D. Catlin, a lawyer who recently represented Assange, said the sex assault investigation into the WikiLeaks founder is based on claims he didn't use condoms during sex with two Swedish women.

Swedish prosecutors told AOL News last week that Assange was not wanted for rape as has been reported, but for something called "sex by surprise" or "unexpected sex."

One accuser, Anna Ardin, may have "ties to the US-financed anti-Castro and anti-communist groups

 

OH WHAT A SURPRISE!!!

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 11:33 | 785506 williambanzai7
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Rupport Murdoch, a hero for the common man...

The behavior of the Australian government towards it's own citizens is shameful indeed

The behavior of the US government is X rated

The behavior of Switzerland reveals what we have always known, self preservation over and above principles.

And here is a sad bit of news...Anyone who believes the internet is "free" or above and beyond national control had better sit down and reassess that notion.

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