On Laszlo Birinyi's 2,800+ S&P Prediction By September 4, 2013

Tyler Durden's picture

Kermit was earlier on CNBC, killing microphones with 20,000Hz+ chirping, delivering a presentation on the merits of using rulers as a market extrapolation tool. And in case anyone is not convinced to whip our their own (ruler) and see just how the S&P is expected to hit 2,854 or some ballpark number by September 4, 2013 (precisely), here is how he got that number: you take the recent surge in the S&P driven by Bernanke's and the HFT's no volume melt up market levitation and apply a straight line to it. Any questions?

Which is not to say the Hungarian is wrong: after all by 2013 hyperinflation will be rampant (thank you Chairsatan Vissarionovich Jr) and market participants (read algos) will watch with horror as the Zimbabwe Stock Exchange acquires the only assets of the Deutsche Uber-Global Borse (their Mahwah collocation boxes naturally) for a few Bernanks (expiration date 72 hours after printing).

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trav7777's picture

Riches for everybody!!!!!1

eckart's picture

on a spread trade at 50 bucks a pip, thats over $700k! should be enough to wallpaper my bedroom...

Sophist Economicus's picture

Wow, this Technical Analysis thing is easier than I thought...

HarryWanqer's picture

This seems plausible.

lizzy36's picture

So does my SI swimsuit cover shot.

HarryWanqer's picture

Well, it doesn't affect me much either way.  I've been long stocks since March of '09 so I can ride out any eventuality.  Plus my Home Decor business is taking off like a rocket, so stocks are just extra retirement money.

Robslob's picture

Harry...lololololololol lololololololol

Bought at the exact bottom...riggghhhtttt.

Too funny

alien-IQ's picture

and you can fairly safely bet your life he'll sell at the exact top. he's one of "those" investors.

Salvatore CFA's picture

Wanqer, dedicated repetition of said italicized action can cause visual acuity to materially deteriorate. How can one be a purveyor of wall stencil kits if you have but one free hand, and the paint brush is a blur ?

curbyourrisk's picture

I don't even read what you spew anymore.  I just flag you for the pure fun of doing it. 


What a total jackwagon!

lincolnsteffens's picture


You are just too brilliant. "Ride out any eventuality" is the smartest thing I've heard since Bernakski's "There is little or no inflation." and Birinyi's comments today. Just hold on to everything and you are guaranteed to stay on top. Perfect....

I had a normal take for January in my business, that is if you consider normal for a month in 1985!! It's all the same 'cause there is no inflation. I'm doing so well I think I'll sell my business for a quatrillion dollars before the economy takes a breather.

CU1981's picture

Can we get a pre-release peak at it ?

AN0NYM0US's picture

Laz has been a heck of alot more accurate than Dancing Dave the Bear Rosenberg


but the real issue is the form/opportunity the impending crisis will take and when it will hit - To TD's and for that matter Faber's point equities are but one store of value for a collapsing currency

I am more equal than others's picture

.... to infinity and beyond.....

The Buzz Lightyear analytical method.  I fear its a Wild E. Coyote moment... still running on thin air and after, and only, when you realize there is nothing supporting you - do you plumment ... and puff... you create a little cloud of dust when you meet earth.

Zero Govt's picture

Hamy, when i first saw this chart straight away i thought, 'Did Hamy draw this?'

Ferg .'s picture

Wouldn't a hyperinflationary environment make that estimate plausible ?

Dingleberry Jones's picture

Exactly my thought.  We talk of hyperinflation on ZH and then assume the market won't track with it.

alien-IQ's picture

the market can track with inflation...hyperinflation is another matter all together. At that point most people will have lost almost all purchasing power...and by extension...corporations will have lost most customers....sales, revenues and profits will plummet.

but then again...in this market...sure...I can see that a s a scenario for stocks to go parabolic.

Dingleberry Jones's picture

Fair enough. Thanks for your reasoning.

gwar5's picture

If the S&P doubles, and the dollar is cut in half, and I pay taxes on gains.... I'll be rich.

Hephasteus's picture

Vector math for retards.

DaBernank's picture

S&P = gold spot.

Turd Ferguson's picture

What a fucking douchebag.

Josh Randall's picture

Next he will show that inertia will dictate the markets move higher because things in motion tend to stay in motion

lincolnsteffens's picture

Right you are. They tend to stay in  motion UNLESS ACTED UPON BY AN OUTSIDE SOURCE. How's about GRAVITY AND FRICTION (in our case RESISTANCE) !!!

jobs1234's picture

This does seem realistic at this rate. Since corrections dont seem to ever occur anymore and we just go higher and higher on lower and lower volume, its conceivable that we may get there without another correction.

vas deferens's picture


Once QE6 is announced the prediction may be understated.

whatz that smell's picture

that projection seems a bit gappy for my taste... but, shit, i mean, a new technical indicator to add to the all ready crowded toolkit... now known as the "Hung Laszlo".

ivana's picture

this is what happens when puppeteers don't have good quality of reliable algorithm for CONTROLLABLE DOWNWARDING of markets.

Going up without volume was easy but controlling diving ... hmmmm - not so easy.

Think that ZH could post and advert or public tender for software programmers to help powerz and get really rich!

Corduroy's picture

I think I need a longer ruler or need to use smaller graphs - thats why I have been getting it wrong all this time

Corduroy's picture

Thats dependent on the S&P 500 still operating in 2013.. :-)

monkeyfaction's picture

They let people say any old crap on CNBC these days. I wouldn't be suprised to see my Grandma on there next week telling people to buy Netflix because her cat said so.


jobs1234's picture

When you live in a world where stocks like FDX and DF can warn on earnings and zoom higher, then predictions like this seem extremely plausible.


The strange thing is that throughout history, whenever people have been this complacent, bad things have happened. I can't think of anything at this point that would be perceived as "bad" by this market.

Crispy's picture

GC price action does not agree with any sort of hyper inflation scenario. New highs or bust...until then I do not agree.

Robslob's picture

Tops aren't broadcasted...or are they?

Traveling Trader's picture

The extrapolation above as an analysis is absurd.....but so is the anti-gravity market at this point.   If inflation does go hyperbolic the FED's reaction will certainly dampen the market by the application of required tightening.......no???

Ted K's picture


Usually I choose to attack you on substantive reasons---maybe for the first time ever you disappoint in the entertainment/Vaudevillian department, you tease us with the Kermit reference and no video/audio of Birinyi?!?!?!?!?!  It's a sad moment for ZeroHedge...I'm getting verklempt Mike Myers style now........

cougar_w's picture

Coming shortly sir!

There I fixed it for you. And don't make that mistake again, they'll have your head on a pike.

lincolnsteffens's picture

"Coming shortly sir."

No.  Coming shortly, sir, yes sir.

Ted K's picture

Thanks Tyler---5 stars for customer service.


Salvatore CFA's picture

One needs to listen to Laszlo in Dolby NR mode, else the tympanum will throw a fit.

S&P 2,800...yet another Mad Hungarian ( in deference to the great Al Hrabosky ).

kaiten's picture

Hungarians know something about hyperinflation. Hungary had the worst hyperinflation in history.


Hungary 1945-1946

Hungary went through the worst inflation ever recorded between the end of 1945 and July 1946. In 1944, the highest denomination was 1,000 peng?. By the end of 1945, it was 10,000,000 peng?. The highest denomination in mid-1946 was 100,000,000,000,000,000,000 peng?. .......

..... When the peng? was replaced in August 1946 by the forint, the total value of all Hungarian banknotes in circulation amounted to one tenth of one US cent.



Oh regional Indian's picture

Be interesting to find out if the Hungarians got their central bank before or after this episode.