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Laszlo Birinyi's September 4, 2013 S&P Target: 2,854

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Tue, 01/04/2011 - 13:56 | 846944 Spalding_Smailes
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Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:12 | 846994 tickhound
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Damn... "bingo" instead of "book it"

"Book it" currently in my top three contrarian indicators... running a close second to Burnett's "worldwide demand for us treasury debt"

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:29 | 847045 Spalding_Smailes
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BAC up 60% this year, gold not so much ... Book it.

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:39 | 847067 SheepDog-One
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Whatever, BAC butt-boy.

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:41 | 847068 tmosley
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You just hold that.  Hope you can get out before it flash bankrupts.

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:52 | 847107 system failure
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Tue, 01/04/2011 - 15:25 | 847211 tickhound
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Forecast for 2011 being the year insolvency is no longer bullish has been up'ed.

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:48 | 847099 Salinger
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Bear in mind that Laz has been alot more accurate on equities than for example ahhh Rosie...


Tue, 01/04/2011 - 15:04 | 847144 HarryWanger
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Exactly! And why is his prediction any more lunacy than the doomers here who constantly post Dow 5000 or below nonsense?

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 15:39 | 847261 tickhound
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I see more failed "book it china rate hike, good jobs report, earnest economic recovery destroying metals and commodities" calls then I ever see "roubini dow 5000 inflation doesn't exist" calls. More popular delusion... wish I could trade it via etf.

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 15:47 | 847296 traderjoe
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Can you cite specific examples? Performance numbers over time? Is this just your general impression?

Which have been the best performing asset classes over the last 10 years? Bonds, stocks, or gold?

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 13:58 | 846947 99er
Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:13 | 847001 Turd Ferguson
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Putting this here, too. I hope it helps.


Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:34 | 847017 Freebird
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There could be something about this one though...

Sorry could not link an ecPulse 2011 gold tech. forecast but its up on fxstreet.com for Elliot Wave followers

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:00 | 846952 LongSoupLine
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A "CNBC contributor".  'nuff said.

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:16 | 847006 Don Birnam
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Laszlo has a formidable tauran pedigree, having been one of Louie Rukeyser's favorite "Elves" for many a year -- and nary was Laszlo's "W$W" elfin caricature to be seen "thumbs down." 

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:40 | 847064 Bam_Man
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Ah yes, those were the days.

If memory serves, Laszlo, Ralph Acompora and Mary Farrell (and later Liz Anne Saunders) were the perenially bullish "elves".

Marty Zweig, Lou Holland and Bob Stovall were the generally less predictable, if not more accurate ones.

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:44 | 847081 Don Birnam
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And woe unto any "elf" who dared announce him- or herself as a longer-term bear ( during the Great Tech Bubble ) -- ask Gail Dudack.

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:51 | 847105 Salinger
Tue, 01/04/2011 - 15:15 | 847129 Bam_Man
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Thanks for that trip down memory lane.

October 16, 1987 is a very significant date. It marked the end of the last week where we actually had "free" markets here in the US. Twenty-three years later, look at where we are.

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 13:59 | 846953 arm50
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just like the ZSE

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:51 | 847102 NoLongerABagHolder
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Today is just another day to buy the f-in dip you f-in idiots.......

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:01 | 846954 Bearster
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While it seems logical to assume that stocks "keep up" with inflation, as if one can take money supply and divide by stock prices and get some sort of constant...


Think profits will "keep up" with inflation?  Think companies will keep up in the black ink?


Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:02 | 846960 Bearster
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Oh, and one other points.  10% of US GDP today is being borrowed or printed into existence.  What will happen when this unsustainable trend stops sustaining?

Depending on how much fixed cost a company has, a 10% decline in revenues could be a 50% decline in profits.

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:08 | 846978 traderjoe
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Shhh...truth telling is not allowed...

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:02 | 846957 TruthInSunshine
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The Birinyi top has been spotted & called.

2:00 pm may indeed hold interesting surprise(s).

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:03 | 846963 goldmiddelfinger
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Laz has been supping at the trough of Byron Wein

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:50 | 847098 knukles
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But but but but but....

They said it'd all been fixed, nothing was broke anymore and the band-aids all worked.
Golly gosh gee whiz.....

(squeezing real hard, grunting, wishing, wishing, wishing, blood rushing forsed to head, pounding temples, headache, dizzyness, uhhh uhhh uhhhhhhhh...  Oppps! Was that a....)

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:03 | 846965 SheepDog-One
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S&P = 2,854, USD = -0-

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:22 | 847026 Cleanclog
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Right.  We could easily see S&P 2,854 if US$ is worth 25% of today's value.  

Look at what S&P gains for 2010 were when valued in gold vs US$.  Same concept.  

Capital preservation remains the objective.  Have to be very careful what you "denominate" your capital in though.  Real estate in what currency, precious metals, stocks in what currency, etc.

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:35 | 847057 Max Hunter
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Predicting equities is a fool's game.. Money has to go somewhere. At the rate it's being printed, he could be right, but it certainly does not foretell a good economy..

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:05 | 846967 Chartist
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Last I saw of Lazlo on CNBC, he didn't look too healthy....He's either buying his shirts 5 sizes too big, or he has serious health issues.

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:52 | 847108 Salinger
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the voice - he should see an ENT (Bloomberg's Tom Keene as well)

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:04 | 846969 traderjoe
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First it was green shoots and mustard seeds. Then it was the summer of recovery. Now we are two years into this 'recovery' with 10% official unemployment, $1.4 trillion fed deficits, and unprecedented money printing. Well alrighty then...

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:12 | 846990 spekulatn
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Well said traderjoe.

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:18 | 847012 cougar_w
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Ah, but a recovery even with scary air-quotes is still trade-able.

In Other News: My eTrade account tells me this morning that I have a mystery 47 new stock options vested. This market better close in the green all week or I'll have no other choice but to devour someone.

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:26 | 847040 traderjoe
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IMHO (and I'm not preaching), trading the Ponzi is participating in the Ponzi. Participating in the Ponzi is encouraging the Ponzi. I have eliminated my exposure to FRN's and have removed my consent to the system. Starve the Beast.

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:04 | 846970 Bam_Man
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If the S&P = 2,854 as of 9/2013, then a gallon of gas = $9.00, a loaf of bread = $9.50 and a gallon of milk = $11.00, and it doesn't mean a damn thing.

Birinyi is clearly predicting a burst of hyperinflation, nothing more, nothing less. Hardly good news, unless you happen to be hopelessly buried in unpayable debts at present.

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:17 | 846984 TruthInSunshine
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If a gallon of gas = $9.00, a loaf of bread = $9.50 and a gallon of milk = $11.00...

...then unemployment will officially be 25%+, and we'll officially be in a depression, regardless as to how many Benny Bucks are circulating and in what denominations.

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 15:12 | 847167 rosiescenario
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"...unless you happen to be hopelessly buried in unpayable debts..."...along with most citizens, local and state governments, and the Feds.Who benefits most from inflation? Who owns the printing presses? How do we get extricated from the current mortgage disaster? Inflation would sure cure many ills and be a bonanza for us PM owners, especially those owning the PM producers...the mining companies.

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:04 | 846971 Dick Darlington
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Laszlo seems to be as conservative as the hungarian households who loaded up swiss franc -denominated debt to buy their piece of heaven aka over-inflated dream house. Good luck for both.

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:05 | 846973 lsbumblebee
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Is he the guy that measured his IQ by sitting on a ruler?

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:08 | 846982 SheepDog-One
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When you start hearing ridiculous calls such as this, you know the upper atmosphere has been reached and time for gravity to come back into play.

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:13 | 846998 cougar_w
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The power of the printing press meets the power of y = mx + b!

All I can say is: Don't cross the streams.

Total protonic reversal FTW, bitchez.

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:28 | 847046 10044
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More like y=b

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:15 | 847002 TruthInSunshine
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If Birinyi is going to 2,854, Abby Joseph Cohen will arrive soon to proclaim 3,710 by the same expiration date.

Everybody gets a free iTulip, today, also.

Happy iTulip day.

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:26 | 847011 plocequ1
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To quote Emperor Joseph II, the musical king,... " Well, There it is."

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:20 | 847020 inkt2002
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Laszlo Birinyi has always been spot on in the past.  Glad to seem him midly bullish the next three years.

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:21 | 847024 TruthInSunshine
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Laszlo ByronWiens a lot?

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 14:22 | 847025 Don Birnam
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Bring Acampora back to CNBC. Give him a show with Bartiromo; perhaps the set can be dressed in an informal fashion -- say, resembling a small Italian restaurant in Brooklyn, red and white checkered tablecloths, decanter of Gallo, breadsticks on the table and all that. The financial media need their own equivalent of "The Colbert Report."

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