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Latest Fukushima Headlines
The latest in the tragic story that just gets weirder by the minute.
- TEPCO's mishandling of info on nuclear crisis 'unacceptable': Edano
- Partial meltdown of fuel rods believed to be temporary: Edano
- Radioactive water from No. 2 reactor due to partial meltdown: Edano
- Contaminated water due to condensed steam, not reactor crack: Edano
And our personal favorite:
- Locals within 20-km evacuation zone asked not to return for now
As this whole farce has gone beyond the surreal, we are now actively waiting for a cartoon Mr. Burns to show up at any ongoing press conference and announce that Springfield Nuclear Power Plant has LBOed Fukushima with Discount Window financing, at a #Ref! EV/EBITDA considering 9501.JP will not see any positive cash flow for millennia, and is appointing Mr. Sparkle (aka Homer Simpson) chief safety inspector.
Source: Kyodo
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Even Homer wouldn't touch this....Who's next?
What really happened during the London protests:
http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/laurie-penny/2011/03/trafalgar-square-police-young
Fuck you, commie!!
LOLOL!!
I AM CHUMBADUMBA!
I get an unlimited supply of donuts and Duff Beer if I work overtime at the nuclear plant?!?! COUNT ME IN!!!
Way to go "fishbulb"
"Kar?shi (????), which can be translated literally from Japanese as "death from overwork", is occupational sudden death."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kar?shi
Chernobyl - 650,000 "Liquidators" needed to clean it up
Fukushima/Onagawa - Only 50 "Karoshis" needed to clean it up?!
The "?" in the word should be an "o." What a fitting name for the unfortunate heroes so bravely (blindly?) working to subdue the mighty subatomic particles . . .
Because Fukushima is only .00000762% as bad of a disaster when compared to Chernobyl.
Cite your sources.
Apologies. I would have thought the ridiculousness of the number achieved when figuring the number of plant workers as a proportion would have made it unnecessary to use this: </sarcasm>
I forgot the little winky thingy... ;-)
Chernobyl reactor was running when the explosion(s) occurred, which is worse than the incident in Japan. How much worse it is will have to wait until this is over.
URGENT: Radioactive water at No. 2 reactor due to partial meltdown: Edano
TOKYO, March 28, Kyodo
The government believes highly radioactive water detected at the No. 2 reactor of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant is due to a partial meltdown of fuel rods there, its top spokesman said Monday.
http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/03/81431.html
is there like anybody left around here who didn't already know as of at least a week ago that we had melted fuel rods?
And if discharge water has zirconium in it, that's as good a fingerprint as you're gonna get
I'm cunfused? The guy with bullet holes was my friend? Can I count on you?
I think you meant; "I'm cuntfuzed?", right Alice?
Is there a quick chemical test to check for zirconium or zirconium dioxide?
By the way I still find your zap sign offensive every time I look at it, I guess that is part of its intention.
If that actually offends you, you must be a real treat at parties.
Junked for being hypersensitive to life.
Junked for excessive junking.
By the way, New Guy: I didn't junk you.
No, but I just did.
I131 is even better. And I134? Well let us just say:
Tokyo we have a problem.
http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/2011/03/worst-case-scenario.html
Trav trav, you racist piece of shit, shouldn't you be worried about debunking any claims that anything whatsoever is out of the ordinary near the reactor, or are you flip-flopping again (as is your racial genetic heritage)???
LOLOLOLOL!!
I AM CHUMBADUMBA!!
Is there any risk of the control rods melting or otherwise failing to work anymore? What kind of temperatures can they hold up to?
WTF?? Are the fuel rods gonna somehow UNMELT themselves?? Quick, thread the film backwards thru the projector!
Probably they meant their admission the rods are partially melted is believed to be temporary.
So next week they will either deny the rods melted at all, or admit they are not partially melted, but are in fact totally melted.
It's hard to parody insane liars. There's no way to beat them at their game.
Sure it's temporary. Everything is temporary, the fuel rods will be in some other state later on.
Such as a gas. Or perhaps another sort of solid.
Or, in a Japanese science fiction film, they just might reassemble themselves and get back into zirconium tubes, which reconstitute themselves from the smoke they made when they burned up last week.
Or perhaps another sort of solid.
AEROSOL - a colloidal suspension of a solid in air. As in capable of flying around the planet for a looong time - if a lot of the melted fuel rods should become a glob of mercury-like fissile atoms at 2,000 degrees C, what's to prevent explosive atomization turning tons of fuel rods into an aerosol ??
We're maybe so - catastrophic word of your choice - is this TEOTWAWKI ?????????
SO WHERE IN THE WORLD IS IT SAFE?
tia
Wall Street
I would say New York near ground zero. They won't attack there twice in 10 years. /sarc off
Fukushima story is a great time to bust out the "Ellipse of Doom"
Long Term S&P "Egg" aka Ellipse of Doom
This submitted by a reader. Wow.
The incredible Egg.
http://oahutrading.blogspot.com/2011/03/long-term-s-egg-aka-ellipse-of-d...
Hello fellow waver! Yes, it is absolutely fascinating to watch social moods play out in realtime in one of the most fascinating times in history! I am continually shocked by the complacency shown by my fellow humans - huge understatement!!
troll alert! keep yer eyes on this gold chimp!
"fascinated by social moods playing in realtime and shocked (!) by other's complacency"!
if he doesn't get to something Real on his next post, hospitalize him!
Exclamation point much?
Junked for over enthusiasm.
Temporarily junked for being attitude police.
Good lord, we all seem to have woken up on the wrong side of the bed and donned our "literal" caps this morning.
It was because I woke up puking radioactive water this morning.
It's possibly partially temporary.
I am amazed at the overall incompetence of how TEPCO and the .gov of Japan are mishandling this. Although they have had a sloppy safety record, mostly minor in the past.
Poor Japan, may God be with them their hour of need.
Why be amazed?
A new Chernobyl would mean the evacuation of nearly a third of Japan, and thus a systemic financial shock which would bring down the whole ultra-leveraged Ponzi.
The important thing for the Japanese government is to be able to continue to refinance itself at low rates, not that some peasants may suffer from radiation poisoning.
The Fukushima disaster will continue to be played down, and we'll learn the truth 10 years later. Wash, rinse, repeat.
Not to be outdone by the liars in Japan, EPA's RADNET used to have click-able count/radiation data.Now, instead of any data they simply say that the radiation is thousands of times lower than any conservative cause for concern.
So, they scrubbed the data and substituted a reassuring statement.
THE FUCKING BASTARDS!!!!Thanks for your tender concern .gov.
This is ominous...and worthy of it's own story Tyler.
When they are trying to be reassuring is when blind panic is more helpful....
EPA are global warmers. Data will be chosen to fit the model, or obscured.
I called the regional EPA office in San Francisco on Friday to complain about the change in the webpage I had book-marked. I was very frustrated also. The regional official was upset too, as he hadn't been appraised and he promised to convey concerns.
Magically the original page is up again
https://cdxnode64.epa.gov/radnet-public/monitorView.do
I don't know whether it will again disappear or not. The EPA official recommended checking with any local or state public health (not federal) agencies for reliable data.
I'm still monitoring the Enviro-Reporter's data in LA, since I'm in AZ
http://www.enviroreporter.com/2011/03/enviroreporter-coms-radiation-station/
However, the EPA data have shown more fluctuations--especially in beta counts--than the Enviro-Reporter's monitor.
My concern is really that radiation would get into the fresh produce in CA and AZ. I have no idea how valid that concern is but the film The Battle for Chernobyl and the current estimates of radiation releases from Fukushima make me worried...
No offense... but are you an idiot?
No offense, but shut the fuck up.
you shut the fuck up.
Let the experts talk. That means "not you."
Elitism is good, especially when the experts have proven their unproficiency.
Egalitarianism is good, especially when the non-experts have proven they haven't a clue what they're talking about.
Ah yes. No one should speak except the experts. From now on I am going to begin my posts with: 'I am a nuclear power worker' or 'I am a Naval nuke'. Then you should all read glassy-eyed while I spew out pro-nuke trivia or propaganda.
Majia expresses what seems to me to be legitimate concerns. I am concerned as well.
Ad hominem attacks don't exactly constitute a counter-argument, so what is your point? That radiation is good for us? I see radioactive shills making that point on blog comments related to the Fukushima nuclear disaster on many diffent sites, and it is clear that the nuclear industry has recognized the real threat to it's continued existence, and has pulled-out all the stops to sway public opinion, here and many other places.
Get this: You are done.
Done how? We haven't built any new nuke plants in a long time. Done, as in, they will close the existing plants?
https://cdxnode64.epa.gov/radnet-public/showMap.do
Fixed Monitor Location: CA: SAN FRANCISCO
Measurement Start Date/Time: 03/28/2011 09:11:51 AM
Measurement End Date/Time: 03/28/2011 10:11:59 AM
Beta Gross Count Rate (CPM): 16
Gamma Energy Range 2 Gross(CPM): 1922
Gamma Energy Range 3 Gross(CPM): 1243
Gamma Energy Range 4 Gross(CPM): 379
Gamma Energy Range 5 Gross(CPM): 201
Gamma Energy Range 6 Gross(CPM): 133
Gamma Energy Range 7 Gross(CPM): 157
Gamma Energy Range 8 Gross(CPM): 98
Gamma Energy Range 9 Gross(CPM): 28
Gamma Energy Range 10 Gross(CPM): 37
Yup, see my comment on a previous thread.
The interactive map supposedly showing the radiation meters at various US facilities functions, but I have NOT been able to pull up reading graphs from ANY of the monitoring stations. With any browser. All I see is the heartwarmingly reassuring statement:
That's really great - but then why not show the readings from the past few weeks, so we can all see if and how they have changed. Anyone have any luck acquiring this data from here or another source? I recognize that dangerous or even alarming levels of radiation in any form are unlikely to materialize Stateside soon, but it would be nice to see the numbers - if only to infer the rate of change at the origin.
Same mindset as TEPCO/Japanese gov't.
In the absence of believable, non-fudged data, the only reasonable speculation is that the contamination is a lot worse than they want you to believe.
Same as TEPCO. They've 'accidentally' been telegraphing the real situation all along. Core melts, breached containment.
I think it is more "Darwinian" than accidental. Those with the intelligence / means to do so read between the lines and GTFO, or at least remove themselves from any imminent danger, those that do not are compelled, with propaganda encouragement, to carry on as usual.
Heh. I actually typed in that same thought using the exact term, then deleted it before posting.
As always, the Authorities speak in code. They aren't as stupid as they appear to be. That would be impossible.
good for you, tax slave! we know you wouldn't want to be as "stupid" as "authorities" who aren't really styooopid, because they "speak in code".
they are NOT "speaking in code", asswipe, they are fuking LYING about the life-threatening ENORMITY of the amount and kinds of radiation being released into the ocean, the winds, and the now-doomed nation of Japan. as one lie after another get totally and near-instantly debunked, they rely on trolls like you to re-establish some modicum of credulity for them.
you got yer chance to show yer ass, "Tax Slave"! now get it the fuk outa here, and don't come back while i'm around, you moronic douchebag!
Don't blame me if you didn't hear "Iodine", "Zirconium", "Hydrogen", "Cesium", and "neutron beam" in among the disinfo. Blowhard.
Whenever access to public information is withheld, it is a bad sign.They don't want people to know how bad it is or what is really going on.I saw elevated beta here in Asheville,NC on Saturday the 19th.Nothing like it since then.
+on you for noticing too.I have a simple counter, boy I wish I had more elaborate equipment now...that way I could check the Gamma and Beta energy levels and actually know what materials are involved.Like Iodine 131...I could do something about that.The Cesium and Strontium....not so much.I don't even want to think about Plutonium in the plume...too depressing.
EDIT: The graphs are back up on the RadNet site.
The Beta counts are presented on a graph with data between 0-100 CPM (for most sites depending on location of sensor, Nevada seems to get a lot more 'background' radiation - but so does Washington), and graph max. of 1000. Nothing significant visible (to me) in terms of correlation to events on the ground at Dai-ichi, though I note Hawaii data seems to be missing (or just 0 throughout the past month). Gamma counts are presented on logarithmic scale, making it difficult to infer the magnitude of changes (if any).
Data is missing for weeks on many of the inland monitoring sites, and some (like Montana & Utah) say:
They still won't come up for me.It was nicer before they changed the site.And before they changed it, the comedy was how many stations were not online.They were down for maintenance or "calibration".
[Sigh] And you are STILL expecting relevant/timely/accurate information from the government on issues of importance? I had you pegged as somewhat more cynical... ;-]
Nevertheless, try this one:
http://www.epa.gov/radiation/rert/radnet-data-map.html
Yes, I am more cynical.The numbers now are probably computer generated based on old data...hee hee.
I trust the .gov as far as I can throw an M1 Abrams tank...IE: not at all!
Thanks for the link.
And no, none of the charts show up!I have angered the Agents of the matrix.The fact I have a decent Geiger counter was probably enough.Being a ZH regular just assures bad results!!!!
This quote seems to sum it up quite well:
[Emphasis mine]
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/28/japan-idUSL3E7ES03620110328?pageNumber=2
Regrettably,yes, my friend.
a 'concrete' schedule...heh...good to see they are planning ahead, for a change.
"This Radnet monitor is either updating data or experiencing technical difficulties. We are aware of the error, and will post the most up-to-date information as soon as it is available."
And when equities drop 200 the same thing happens with the feeds... hmmm...
Please do not lift the blindfold off the sheeple.
Let them be, their bliss needs nourishment.
A new Chernobyl
I don't think that can be hidden. The Soviets failed with Chernobyl to hide it. Radiation detectors in other countries are a bitch
+1 Sv/hr
Or not. If a part of Japan goes offline and that the news on global growth are reported as good, just as a continuity of what is going on, it could tear the veil of illusion on economics.
A too big pill to swallow for most.
Denial is the first stage of dying.
Acceptance is the last.
You HURT. We all die my friend. I Feel for you.
Thanks.
- you still in Burma?
Hong Kong from Majulah. Hope you had a good weekend.
Are you still flight-simming around Asia? You'll get joystick fatigue!
Yep Snoopy. Can Lucy blow my thoughts?
Regarding Sv measurement
They managed to divulge a 0.3 Sv in the turbine facility - a separate building! Nice ... "calculated obfuscation" ...
I want to know the reading in near to the torus, or pump room/s near core.
Not the values in another building !
The people have been working in the pump room this week running power ... so why can they not get a reading right there?
Its pretty obvious they are withholding data.
The staff probably cannot approach the torus areas in any of the reactors. Too hot.
I suspect all three reactors have already melted down more or less completely.
It seems the reactors are critical which means the control rods have no effect on the chain reactions. Fuel is 'blobs' in undisclosed locations.
four down, fifty more reactors to go ...
sad, really, Japan was a nice country before the industrialists fucked it up.
It was NOT the industrialists! The blame for this rests solely on the Japanese government, who overregulated to the point that they were forced to rely on this ancient, shitty design. Japan SHOULD be using pebble bed reactors in all of its cities, and have breeder reactors in the most remote areas available.
Light water reactors are literally the most primitive reactor design on the face of the earth. They work well for the ships and subs they were designed for, but not when parked on the surface where pumps must be used to cool them.
Hell, the floors could have been retrofitted with tungsten to put to rest any possibility of disastrous meltdown, or had that shit in the reactor itself.
Like I have said on many occasions, blaming nuclear power in general for this accident is like blaming the automobile industry for unsafe cars in Cuba. OF COURSE THEY ARE UNSAFE, they are 50+ years old!
Sigh.
And so far what they've been able to accomplish is like trying to put out an engine fire by spraying a garden hose on the hood.
The best way to extinguish a class B (petroleum-based) fire is with a heavy detergent-laden agent. In other words, grab a bottle of dishwashing detergent and work up a good lather in a contained water source, and then spray/pour it over the fire.
Good luck. This method doesn't always work as intended.
I helped put out a Class B fire with just water and a spray nozzle.
tmos, actually Americann (corps and gov) have an iron-fist control on Japan since WWII, the blame lies with them. Even the famed Japanese Manufacturing methods (especially quality control) were taught to them by Demings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Edwards_Deming), it's not something they caem up with on their own.
Everyone has to acknnowledge that japan has been nothign more than a thinly disguised American Protectorate. Nothing. Even their culture reeks of American Culturalism. They were taken down, plain and simple.
ORI
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com
agreed
The Japanese have been supporting the dollar and US consumerism for some time.
And being riddled with US military bases is no longer enough.
Of late, the US has been pressuring Japan to dump its Constitution, officially approve the stationing of nuclear weapons, rearm for offensive warfare, and join in the US-led global policing by establishing Japanese overseas military bases (first one in Africa).
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=18869
Interesting rwe2. And thanks for the link. Very interesting.
ORI
Just for the record: This meme is not true.
Corporate culture leads to safety issues 99% of the time. Many nuclear operators have shitty, shitty attitudes, as exemplified by the smug superiority of many posts on these boards. Engineers are myopic by inclination and training, so much so that most don't even know the issues that ultimately lead the 'perfect designs' to catastrophe. Mainly greed, laziness and complacency/stupidity.
It Can't Happen Here is the most dangerous phrase in the nuclear industry. It's The Regulators' Fault is a very close second.
Companies that claim absolute safety should simply be banned from this industry.
Just for the record, there is a difference between "industrialists", who are heroic individuals that bring you everything that you have, and "corporations" which are sociopathic organizations created and maintained by the government.
I'm not sure I would caste aspersions at an entire type of professional. Any engineer will tell you that moving parts are points for failure. The more moving parts, the more likely something will go wrong. Pebble bed reactors are so safe precisely because they require no moving parts (ie cooling systems/control rod insertion) to keep from melting down. This is like running a slow cooker in a concrete room vs having a bonfire in your living room while spraying the walls and roof with water to stop them from catching fire.
Yes, a perfect design IS possible. It is achieved not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. That process was frozen by regulation, and we got stuck with a highly polished turd.
Well said.
just for the record, "tmosley" and "Tax Slave" are BOTH moronic shitforbrained asswipes. just lQQk at this drivel! you guys go back to wherever you learned this bullshit and just tell them it wouldn't pass muster, here, ok?
being "innocuously deflective of every single bit of real understanding" is not new here. you are either retarded or seriously mentally ill. take yer fuking pick, and GET LOST!
Might wanna read up on the AVR accident.
Nothing is totally safe. PBMR have their own failure modes.
So, I'll put you down as "NOT a fan of Govt efficiency", then. :>D
It was the moving parts you called out here that actually worked, in this disaster.
Do tectonic plates count as "moving parts"? Why wouldn't they affect a PB too?
EPIC FAIL in comprehension.
"Many nuclear operators have shitty, shitty attitudes, as exemplified by the smug superiority of many posts on these boards. "
As we say in the coal fired plants " No Nukes" . The smug arrogance of nuclear operators is an affront to those of normal intelligence .
Meanwhile the coal plants fill up the skies with thorium, uranium, and radium.
"No nukes"
To each their own. [paycheck]
Engineers are myopic by inclination and training, so much so that most don't even know the issues that ultimately lead the 'perfect designs' to catastrophe.
You have never worked in aerospace my friend. If things were as dire as you paint them you would never step on an airplane. Or take an elevator in a high rise.
And may I add you know NOTHING about the training of engineers.
“Physicists dream of Nobel prizes, engineers dream of mishaps.” Hendrik Tennekes
Well the good ones anyway.
Catastrophes have an exceptional dimension.
They are a distinct break from common days routine.
An air catastrophe can only be exceptional, not the normality.
"Engineers are myopic by inclination and training, so much so that most don't even know the issues that ultimately lead the 'perfect designs' to catastrophe."
I will say this: As someone whose job is building things and completing projects designed and overseen by engineers, it would benefit the world immensely if some actual hands on experience were a prerequisite.
Engineers by nature seem to collectively think that ten gallons of shit will fit into a five gallon pail. They also seem to enjoy conference calls where you have to explain to them OVER and OVER again that you now have five gallons of shit laying on the ground.
Then they will try to tell you that it's your fault because you couldn't keep your shit in a pile.
Well worth repeating:
"Corporate culture leads to safety issues 99% of the time. Many nuclear operators have shitty, shitty attitudes, as exemplified by the smug superiority of many posts on these boards. Engineers are myopic by inclination and training, so much so that most don't even know the issues that ultimately lead the 'perfect designs' to catastrophe. Mainly greed, laziness and complacency/stupidity."
quick question: if I leave who the hell are you going to have to parrot shit from?
It seems the reactors are critical
Yep.
@PhattyBouy
On the previous thread I promised I would look into the measurement question. What I found is that no one has entered #2 reactor basement/torus. Initial electrical work was done at an external transformer and main panel. When nothing worked, they decided to string cables to the main circulating pump located in the turbine hall. That's where they measured high radiation and bugged out.
plans to use regular power to restart the cooling system hit a roadblock when it turned out that cables had to be laid through turbine buildings flooded with the contaminated water.
"The problem is that right now nobody can reach the turbine houses where key electrical work must be done," Nishiyama said. "There is a possibility that we may have to give up on that plan."
Operation Extension Cord RIP.
Operation Extension Cord mission accomplished. It provided cover for a few news cycles.
avon - nice scoop.
"that no one has entered #2 reactor basement/torus"
So 2 weeks+ later, this location is so FUBAR that they cannot get near it ...
Someone please convince me that #2 is not completely melted into drywell / torus area.
They have measured near here I am sure, but it broke their gauges.
dude: there are over 4,000 Tons of radioactive waste and fuel at this site, very nearly all of which contains some amount of freaking plutonium of some kind or another.
i think we'll get the truth inductively from the info here: Plutonium in troubled reactors, spent fuel pools
and here: Plutonium Production - Nuclear Weapons
if you have other info that will stand scrutiny here, please advise and post it, ok? if you don't, please read these two links for 5-10 minutes and try to digest the info. then you will have "the big picture" and you will stop sweating "the small stuff" which is never-ending disinfo from Tepco & it's pols and allies, even when they appear to disagree with the fuking disinfo. tyler is pretty much required to report this shit. if you haven't yet come to understand why he is framing it as he is, while practically freaking, full-time, over it, please reconsider the "big picture" which will lead to sharing the understanding that that there is no individual "instance" of a "specific problem" that means fuking diddly squat compoared to the knowledge of the amount of radioactive materials at the site, the condition of the place, and the "apparent inability" of the japanese leadership to give it's people these facts, which may include the "news" that it is humanly impossible to do anything until "later". at which point the people will be almost surely sicker than dogs.
i know! slewie & tyler and a dozen others or more, here, are not competent "authorities" to understand the situ. so just read the shit we are going with, see if it "makes sense" and think for yourself, if you can.
for example the "reason" there is 3000+++ TONS of waste there is b/c they have never removed ANY of it for over 40 years. why not? b/c it woulda affected their "bottom line" negatively, AND virtually no one has questioned the safe and sane "operation" except a few who were deflected and ignored almost exactly like the guy who tried to tell the SEC about Bernie Madoff.
this is CITY HALL, friend, and you don't fight it here, you don't fight it in japan, or anywhere else, really, b/c you can not win with a fair assessment and honest play in a crooked game.
all i am asking of you is to peruse a coupla my "sources" and weigh them for yourself. 10 minutes. after that, you wanna go back to the fuking donut in #2 and fantasize about the fuking condition of the "guages", no one will be able to stand in your way, then, either.
all i am saying is that i sincerely believe and hope that if you take these 10 minutes, you will no longer react to every single piece of bullshit put out by Tepco, or US Sec. of Energy Chu, or ann coulter, either. once you get the picture, here, the non-stop disinformation will no longer have any meaning for you, either.
this isn't facebook OR yahoo, Phatty.
try it.
see what happens ok?
t.y. peace.
dup
At what point does gross incompetence become Plan B?
In Washington D.C., gross incompetence is Plan A, also plans B,C,D and E.
New spike in radioactive iodine in seawater - 1,150 times legal limit near seawater outlets from reactors 5 and 6 - (aren't these the reactors in 'cold shutdown' that we are not supposed to be worried about anymore?).
http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Asia/Story/STIStory_650201.html
It's contained.
Low-level radiation found in Massachusetts rainwater - Reuters
That's a lie.
Barry said it'd never get here.
Can't wait to hear Obamatron explain how US involvement in Libya is Bush's fault, on TV tonight.
It's absolutely time to be long the dollar, a big move up is coming............a BIG move!!!!!!!!
Long USD/JPY
Short EUR/USD
Short SPY
These are the trades to be in as the big money tries to escape bit by bit from the risk.
I like that eur/usd call!
Dollar starting the week off...weak. But I will admit, the news is in its favor with Ireland et al and Japan looking at unsustainable debt levels...at least until the debt ceiling is breached, or raised, if there is a difference between the two.
Condensed steam!?! Which planet does he think the people of Japan come from? Tepco is clearly lying and the government is in cahoots to prevent the truth from leaking out, in the process putting ordinary Japanese citizens at risk. None of what Tepco and Edano is saying matches the data collected from independent sources. Something is wrong, and the situation is clearly more serious than what Tepco or the government are admitting. Eventually the truth will come out but by then, a lot of Japanese will have suffered radiation poisoning. God help them.
i thought the EPA site had been outsourced to Tepco! 6 sites with gamma data, 130 "fixed" but with no readings! our goobermint @ work!
this site Plutonium in troubled reactors, spent fuel pools
claims 3400 tons of spent fuel, all containing plutonium of some kind(s) or other, and 877 tons of fuel in the reactor cores, some, maybe all of which contains plutonium, at lower leves, except for #3 where they used fuel with plutonium in it before it went into the reactor!
when tyler sez: this whole farce has gone beyond the surreal, i gotta say that subtle editorial understatement is a heluva lot more welcome than the obvious "scientific" understatements of the dangers coming from japan, and literally hundereds, perhaps thousands of other "authoritative" venues, many of which send their trolls here, on a regular basis to get hospitalized. leo kovalikis has his own piece up, tonight, after having his head ripped off and his neck shit down by yers truly and 2-3 others on this site, earlier. in fairness to leo, he was discussing the "genius of keynes" and he read a book or two about Lord JMK, too! everything he said about his Lord Keynes fantasies and his personal "values" was ruthlessly and competently deconstructed and freaking demolished. everything, to the best of my knowledge. 12 hours later, he's baaaack! with this passive-aggressive "fun" challenge.
now he's goinw/ "Alright all you Zero Hedge bears, time to weigh in on my latest comment (sarcasm ON)..." go fuk yerself leo, you archetypal shitforbrained moron of a FED whore, you are finished, here.
sincerely,
slewie the pi-rat
We need to know Tepco's head count. We saw the picture of the "lens" and subsequent smoke 1. How many Tepco employers on the payroll, and their job titles, the day of. 2. How many in the building when the "lens" was produced? 3 How many now known cases of dead? amd dying of radiation exposure? 4. How many now alive and healthy? You can't have technology advanced to the point it's advanced and not be able to account for the Tepco employees day by day.Should be easy to quantify and take a nose count. Who can read license plate numbers? I think the US and Great Britain.
And yes, I know from first hand account that the premier Japanese tradition is "saving face."
Where is the Fukushima tsunami footage?
I believe them when they say the partial meltdown is temporary. They are just buttering us for the money shot, full meltdown. You can't just ram that news home, you have to ease it in, like a gentleman.
The meltdown IS temporary. It will melt up with everything else as soon as they get QE3 going!
No problem!
+1 sievert/hr
Like uh, partially pregnant, partially limbless, partially dead.
Partial.
Which part of partial do we all not understand? The impartial part?. The dangling of the participle part? The part that departs, the departure? The departure form reality?
God help us all, for we cannot even get close ourselves.
Meltdown can't be temporary. You're either melted down (maybe partially) or not. If it's partial, then how do they know? What parts aren't melted down? This has got to be a translation error or propaganda.
Yeah but "partial" can be temporary...
So the core rods are like popsicles, that can be re-constituted in original form after melting down?
Who knew.
As to other events in Japan, the list of factories to be idled (and workers laid off, presumably) due to the Tri-Crisis in Japan is growing exponentionally.
Anyone who thinks that there is NOT a real risk that Japan's woes, with Japan being the 3rd largest economy and largest exporting economy in the world, won't potentially usher in global economic contraction this year, with much of the world being in extremely weak shape as is, please pass me the bowl.
Makes me go hmmmmmm . . .
Triple-dip or is it Quadruple-dip?
...please pass me the bowl.
Considering how much pot is grown in CA, I wonder how soon before the new glow-in-the-dark weed becomes available.
I own some anadarko.
Weed is an effective cancer cure, just like radiations.
I have a feeling I will get more of both soon, so I should be OK.
@Truth In Sunshine,
We have been collecting what information is available on "shortages"
Out side of food exports - not an insubstantial amount -Sony 9 of 25 plants Idles. Toyota Toshiba, panansonic.......... all have a HUGE problem. loss of supply estimated for Motor vehicle 600,000 units.
Smart phones, computers, carparts, tool makers, electrical, lighting, Hospital equipment and supplies(MRI cats, utla sound stainless rep parts) Tv's camcorders, memory chips....it just goes on and on
It has moved outside of Japan at an alarming rate and you will find its causing plant shut downs in The US and Germany and it will spread to other suppliers who CAN SUPPLY but are on stop order because one part brings the whole damn chain to a stop.
This will be known as the 4th Disaster and tremors will hit home in no more than a month.
What is angering me is they are all reported as periferal news items lost in importance and no one has added up the combined effects on a JIT free trade industrial Giants.
Your the first one who has dared wisper of the coming destruction to World trade = employment and profits
Tyler hade better find a bit of this to chew on - Its tasty shit
Ummm... Look a few posts down on the front page:
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/latest-japanese-supply-chain-disruption-summary
Thanks CD just knew I should have taken foot out of mouth before posting
"Partial meltdown of fuel rods believed to be temporary"
When going from normal to full meltdown, the system will enter a partial meltdown phase. That phase is temporary. Just remember where the system is headed.
don't come back for now? try , don't ever come back.........
See, you grasp the molten fuel rod, see, and kind of just roll it between your palms, see, like so...all good.
Now pay up.
Thanks for the comic relief. :-)
Nuclear proponents are clearly insane. Salespeople of the big lie. Yea, just roll it up between your palms... LOL!!!
I see we have another volunteer for turning the lights, heat, and air conditioning off. Enjoy your summer.
That has already happened thanks to the nuc fucktards and their paid fo hos
You're gonna want to leave that AC on...it'll give you a longer lead time when you go to collect the corpses before they start to putrify.
Oh I see. If we shut down nuclear power, it's back to the 19th century is it?
LOL.
They're just teakettles. 65%+ energy wasted. Boiling water.
But I don't feel like having a big argument about it....
Yes of course the partial meltdown is only temporary on the path to a full meltdown. So they could be telling the truth in a peverse sort of way.
So I assume they are planning how to bury this turd in the sand pit and walk away whistling.
This is their modus operandi. Instead of clearly informing the public that fission reactions have restarted, they tell us that they have detected 13 instances of neutron beams . . .
And told the children to pray so as to forestal panic.
Really.
They did.
They released a cartoon teaching the kids it's all about pooping diapers.