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The Latest Spin In The GSE "Take From The Poor And Give To The Rich" Saga: The Reverse Robin Hood Construct

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The latest submission for the "Getting Your Blood Boiling in 60 Seconds" award. The Convexity Maven, aka ML's Harley Bassman, shares his musings on the latest "Reverse Robin Hood" government endorsed GSE paradox (aka taking from the poor and giving to the rich), submitted by Merrill Lynch's Harley Bassman.

 




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Fri, 02/12/2010 - 14:50 | Link to Comment Nolsgrad
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that's f-d up. leave it to the gov't to spend the highest amount possible.

Fri, 02/12/2010 - 15:05 | Link to Comment Bam_Man
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BTW, I am currently being paid a 5% coupon on my GSE bonds.

By definition, the MBS themselves must have a higher coupon than the bonds issued to fund the mortgage purchases.

IMHO, the 6% coupon on the MBS is not at all excessive given the upward explosion in the number of loans being pulled from MBS pools due to delinquency.

The problem is that it is impossible to find investors willing to settle for less than a 5% coupon on the GSE debt.

Fri, 02/12/2010 - 15:40 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 02/12/2010 - 16:05 | Link to Comment Bam_Man
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GSE debt (excl. GNMA) does NOT have "full faith and credit" US Gov. backing.

Therefore you cannot compare GSE debt to US Treasury debt.

Two entirely different animals right now.

Fri, 02/12/2010 - 21:49 | Link to Comment mberry8870
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Really?

Fri, 02/12/2010 - 14:58 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 02/12/2010 - 15:05 | Link to Comment You Cant Handle...
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But, but ... there's this huge Mexican Standoff of CDSs and other derivatives that we can't POSSIBLY regulate and deal with (*snark*), so we have to give the bondholders whatever they want, so that nobody pulls that trigger!  

It's for the citizen's own good, you see.  They're actually paying protection money to Guido the Market Maker.  That average person wouldn't, you know, want a too-big-to-fail to default, causing, ... you know... their pension to burn down, ... or their home to ... have something... nasty happen to it.  So we best fuggidabout it.  

 

Fri, 02/12/2010 - 15:35 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 02/12/2010 - 16:23 | Link to Comment Sagacious Sam
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Yeah, I'm not so sure this is a reverse Robin Hood situation as much as it may appear that way.  It hink its more a function of the GSE's, like many others (failed modification programs!!) to face up to the fact that people are just going to default.

 

So finally, FH and FN have started to face up to the fact these 90+ deliquents just aren't going to make good, and enough with paying out these 6% (probably closer to 5%) coupons when they really could be paying out 0.2% coupons.  I imagine IO owners are not to happy with this decision, but after all the tightening they really should not be holding them anymore.

 

I'm curious to see what affect this has had on the dollar roll market.

 

Anyone?

 

Fri, 02/12/2010 - 16:27 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 02/12/2010 - 17:22 | Link to Comment ghostfaceinvestah
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I have heard this advice from others - it sucks.  How about this: the GSEs will no longer be buyers of MBS because they are full up with delinquent loans, the Fed won't be buyers, the Treasury is no longer a buyer, so that leaves no buyers.

This notion that all this money will be freed up from the buyouts is just garbage.  Who is holding a lot of the 2005-2007 vintage MBS that these loans will come out of?  Oh, the Chinese, who sure as hell aren't gonna be re-entering the market.

Short the mortgage basis going into March, I say.

Fri, 02/12/2010 - 17:55 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 02/12/2010 - 20:11 | Link to Comment TopHat (not verified)
Fri, 02/12/2010 - 22:27 | Link to Comment Fox Moulder
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How many of the delinquent mortgages were purchased by the Fed at 100 cents on the dollar, and will now be offloaded to the taxpayers?

Mon, 04/19/2010 - 09:55 | Link to Comment Tom123456
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