Libya Threatens Counerstrikes Against Civilians, Mediterranean Traffic If Attacked As UN Set To Vote On Air Strikes At 6 PM

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Thu, 03/17/2011 - 14:06 | 1067402 Ahmeexnal
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I wonder if by "long term" he means 10,000 years of nuclear winter in Europe?

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 14:20 | 1067493 Lord Welligton
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Long term will be about a week if he takes out a civilian aircraft.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 14:24 | 1067518 kaiserhoff
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Oh goodie.  Now, how many fighter/bombers does the UN have?

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 14:30 | 1067548 Cash_is_Trash
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According to the statement:

civilian and military (facilities) will become targets of Libya's counter-attack

Warships such as the Kearsarge and international naval vessels will be shot at.


Thu, 03/17/2011 - 15:06 | 1067695 viahj
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i doubt that.  firing on less armed rebels is one thing but his military commanders wouldn't have the balls to strike the US Navy...ok, maybe one of them is crazy enough to do it

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 15:22 | 1067776 AnAnonymous
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There is no rebels. Only illegal combatants. Call a spade a spade.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 15:27 | 1067809 astartes09
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This is Gadaffi we are talking about.  Less we forget that he's already bombed one commercial airliner and sent his fighters on suicide runs against US carriers before.

Its mostly talk, but he will make more than an annoyance for a short time.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 15:44 | 1067936 gina distrusts gov
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It could be unpleasently intresting if Daffy has aquired  some

of the russan hypersonic antiship cruse missles on the black market

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 17:03 | 1068332 ElvisDog
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Agreed. Quadaffi (how do you spell his name anyway?) isn't crazy, he's smart and ruthless. He knows an attack against the U.S. navy will (A) fail and (B) bring shock and awe down on Libya.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 17:40 | 1068477 dbTX
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not a good idea unless he's looking for a few dozen virgins

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 14:34 | 1067566 Lord Welligton
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That's why they won't be enforcing the non fly zone.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 14:42 | 1067596 TonyV
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Not only that they will be enforcing a non-fly zone but I give a 50% chance that air strikes will be authorized.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 14:43 | 1067605 Lord Welligton
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Agreed. Russia and China would object.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 15:09 | 1067689 Mercury
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I still don't think the US (read: Obama) will be involved in any Libyan air strikes or troop deployments onto Libyan soil.  Gaddafi is basically promising all out war if anything like that happens and I doubt that a non-US, UN sanctioned force will actually be willing to take that on.

In any case if they wait much longer there aren't going to be many rebels left to defend...

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 15:12 | 1067733 chinaguy
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Russia will object & Obama will be off the hook for having to do something "uncool"....someone on this site already laid out this scenario a week ago.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 15:10 | 1067722 Antipodeus
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I don't know about the U.N. - actually, I do: "zero" - but NATO sure has a sh#tload close by.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 04:01 | 1068115 slewie the pi-rat
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well,  moQ seems to be interpreting the upcoming vote and subsequent military action as an act of war.  duh.

he's been rockin and rollin with some ordinance recently and sounds pretty tuned up, to me, here, if the ear does not deceive...  isn't this how we got into needing to spend trillions to hang saddam?

back to moQ:  now that his targets have increased by 450%, he's feelin capable?  wanna blow something up?  well, now!

or, more likely, just bluffing...

...unless he's getting ready for his "say hello to my li'l friends" moment... but the "UN" (spare me!) is taking the level of belligerence up a notch here, not moQ, he's just doing the civil war thingy.  so far.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 14:25 | 1067525 Ahmeexnal
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Good point.

Now imagine that A380 ramming into a nukular powerplant in the heart of europe.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 14:35 | 1067572 Lord Welligton
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Not a pleasant thought I must admit.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 14:39 | 1067589 zaknick
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Imagine that. Shit on for a thousand years.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 14:54 | 1067645 MachoMan
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Isn't that also part of our impetus to be in the region?  To protect Europe should this asshole get too desperate...  [along with keeping oil infrastructure operating heh].

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 14:56 | 1067652 Rodent Freikorps
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God Dammit. It is time we cut the apron strings on Europe. Let them reap what they sow.

No blood for Europe.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 15:11 | 1067685 MachoMan
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It's not really that simple...  we don't care, per se, we just need to keep up the meme of world police/flowwer of oils.  If this makes our goals coincide, then awesome...  so be it.  If we have to go it alone, so be it.  You don't want to train a pitbull to kill and then keep it in the kennel all day do you?

I also can't fathom how all of this chains into saudi arabia...  we back the rebels in libya and then gut them all in bahrain?  Seems difficult at best to contain this...  and maybe we eventually get sufficient provocation to go into iran, but how do we keep a lid on SA in the meantime?  Too many spinning plates.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 15:18 | 1067753 Rodent Freikorps
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I would support killing Iran. If we do not kill the source, we will fail anyway.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 16:51 | 1068289 BigJim
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The source of what, brave warrior?

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 15:28 | 1067813 papaswamp
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With Japan offline we need the UK to step up and buy our debt.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 17:19 | 1068420 MachoMan
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At what point do people get spooked?  The FED is the largest holder of treasuries...  that fact in and of itself should send alarm bells off to any sleepwalker.  Further, the UK doesn't buy dick...  China does through the UK...  we just need to make sure Japan doesn't sell its treasuries...  we've got the buying covered....  at least for a while.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 16:02 | 1067655 kaiserhoff
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Anyone else remember Lockerbie, and who ordered it?

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 15:32 | 1067847 Hicham
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I think most nuclear plants are a lot better protected against that sort of thing than they are against earthquakes/tsunamis. Still nasty though

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 14:41 | 1067597 jus_lite_reading
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Hey TD can you confirm anything about a bank run in Japan?

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 14:07 | 1067408 TWORIVER
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Look look over there...running out of eyes to watch this show.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 14:34 | 1067568 jesse livermoore
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great post.  you need a head on a swivel

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 14:43 | 1067600 jus_lite_reading
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Thu, 03/17/2011 - 16:49 | 1068284 PhattyBuoy
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You ain't seen nothing yet ... this is just getting warmed-up.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 14:08 | 1067410 misterc
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The US should just go and take out this bastard.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 14:10 | 1067434 SDRII
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yes those decapitation strikes have a good track record. More like Q up the proxy war.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 14:08 | 1067435 dark pools of soros
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go down to the range if you are itching for target practice

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 14:19 | 1067497 ArgentDawn
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Thu, 03/17/2011 - 14:11 | 1067442 nonclaim
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The US should just go and take out this bastard.

Why? He was an ally until a few weeks ago and by the unwritten laws of war he is winning fair and square.

He's a terrible person and should have gone to jail/executed long time ago. He wasn't and became a "friend of the west". So the question is why now?

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 14:14 | 1067458 misterc
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The US should just finish the job they once started. They bombed Tripolis and tried to kill him after Lockerbie, as far as I know.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 14:21 | 1067498 tahoebumsmith
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yeah and then funded him for 20 years after they didn't kill him.. Not to mention allowed England to free the man accused of the Lockerbie incidint so they could strike up an oil deal with BP!

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 14:25 | 1067519 nonclaim
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After that we has received a few times in US soil, tent and blonds included.

The question remains, why now? Who supplied arms and ammunition and incited the "rebels"? The broad spectrum media support for the "rebels".

It's hard to defend such person but he has been acting within his role so far... and he is winning.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 14:42 | 1067602 AnAnonymous
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There is no rebels. Only illegal combatants... Probably Al Qaeda or Muslim brotherhood...

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 14:58 | 1067665 Rodent Freikorps
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So what?

This is Italy's mess. The US does not have a dog in this fight. The US should take no action at all.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 15:12 | 1067730 MachoMan
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Look at the price of oil...  Now who's problem is it?

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 15:26 | 1067757 Rodent Freikorps
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Europe's. We can take the hit. Let them step up, or die.

No more dead Americans to save Europe from themselves. This shit has to end. Three strikes, and you are out.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 15:24 | 1067787 AnAnonymous
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Italy's mess or not, it does not change the fact that Gaddhadfi's army is killing illegal combatants, not civilians, not rebels.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 15:29 | 1067816 Rodent Freikorps
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I do not care. The US should sit this one out.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 15:34 | 1067850 AnAnonymous
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The US should side with Gaddafi as his military is doing a job the US supports: killing illegal combatants.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 16:55 | 1068306 BigJim
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And exactly by what steps does a population rebelling against its tyrant overlord become legal combatants, in your legalistic eyes?

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