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The Lies Continue: UMichigan Consumer Confidence Beats Days After Conference Board Misses

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Confused yet: a few days ago the Conference Board came out with a confidence number which was a massive miss, and which drove market higher on expectations of QE2. Today, to prove that nothing coming out of the government is even remotely credible anymore, the UMichigan Confidence index came at 68.2, beating expectations of 67.0, and compared to a previous read of 66.6. Once again, our condolences to all those who trade the candles in this joke passing for a market.

More details:

  • Expectations: 60.9 vs. Exp. 60.0 (Prev. 59.1)
  • Conditions: 79.6 vs. Exp. 78.9 (Prev. 78.4)
  • 5-year Inflation: 2.7% vs. Prev. 2.8%
  • 1-year Inflation: 2.2% vs. Prev. 2.2%

 

 

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Fri, 10/01/2010 - 10:06 | 618036 Id fight Gandhi
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So bte is for no qe so that's bad.

But bad number is for qe so that's good?

Or just say it's all good and drink kool aid

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 10:35 | 618141 Missing_Link
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It's all very simple.

If the market is down, it's for whichever of the following reasons is most convenient / believable:

  • Because the economic numbers are good, and the expectation is that interest rates will rise and/or quantitative easing is less likely
  • Because the economic numbers are good, but not as good as someone "expected"
  • Because the economic numbers are bad

On the other hand, if the market is up, it's just the opposite:

  • Because the economic numbers are bad, and the expectation is that interest rates will stay at zero and/or quantitative easing is more likely
  • Because the economic numbers are bad, but better than someone "expected"
  • Because the economic numbers are good

See how it works?  Using this simple methodology, any market conditions can be correlated with any economic conditions using the appropriate excuse, to continue to fool the masses into thinking there's some connection.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 10:38 | 618145 Oh regional Indian
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It's all good lies Gandhi-fighter, that is the only thing good about it.

Yet, articles are written and pundits get their knickers (or knockers, depending) in a twist...

I like their hair's breadth misses though. Kind of like how company numbers always come in within cents of expectations. That gag inducing drama should tell all we need to understand about this  statistical bull@#$%.

ORI

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com

PS: I would too, but curious as to why you'd fight Gandhi?

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 19:55 | 619839 StychoKiller
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Close enough only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades (and lying Govt statistics).  Guess you haven't watched "Fight Club."

Sun, 10/03/2010 - 01:50 | 621809 Oh regional Indian
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Actually I have Kali-man, but did not really like it. It glorified needless violence. To me, the movie was a big social programming schtick. Kind of like Jackass or whatever that MTV show that made people do crazy things.

 

ORI

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 10:13 | 618070 Whatta
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"Once again, our condolences to all those who trade the candles in this joke passing for a market."

Why? It is extremely easy to make money in the market for the last year and a half. Just buy something. It goes up. You make money. It's easy. Wheeeeee. I am doing it right now.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 10:15 | 618072 TradingJoe
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and the ramp madness goes on! da boyz know it, as long as benjie hits the press they can go "long" and stay there! the point of practicality is gone, this thing can go ever higher or die on a dime!

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 10:19 | 618092 unwashedmass
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yeah, but one of the more interesting aspects of this is that they have pushed their favorites so high that now they can't follow anymore, even the computers know the stock isn't even close to worth it....

which has created another "situation"....

for the past couple of years, it has been okay, even "encouraged" to naked short the gold and silver stocks.....and even thru most of this ramp, they have been sitting hard on the HUI.....now....the ONLY stocks still showing value -- and in some cases, insane value, are the gold and silver stocks...

ah Ben, ya bail and it just keeps coming in....

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 10:19 | 618089 gwar5
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To da Mooon Alice!! To da MOOOoon!

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 10:28 | 618120 Threeggg
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Get the Circuit Breakers ready for action !

Dow fell like a "stone"

Rut row !

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 10:30 | 618127 firstdivision
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UMichigan index is still worthless if it is up or down.  I just feel that it is not a good guage and is not a good cross section to be used for investment decisions. 

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 10:58 | 618229 Cognitive Dissonance
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Yeah, but it's a great tool to manipulate the public perception.

Man # 1: "How do you feel?"

Man # 2: "Terrible"

Man # 1: "That can't be. The UofM survey says you feel great."

Man # 2: "Wow, I'm feeling better already."

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 10:41 | 618159 Dr. No
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UofMich....is it still around?  I figured with Detroit in shambles, the public funding would be out the window too.  Who knew?

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 10:55 | 618219 London Dude Trader
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Hey, UMich's SRC center, responsible for the cons sent survey, is even hiring!

 

http://www.src.isr.umich.edu/

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 11:00 | 618234 Bartanist
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Maybe they should get rid of all of the other courses and just teach "behavioral economics" in business school.

Oh right, they already teach it, but they teach it as a marketing course.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 11:06 | 618253 Dixie Normous
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It would be difficult to do, but if we ignored this useless piece of "data" (or shit, as some might say), maybe it would go away.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 11:23 | 618300 youngandhealthy
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ECRI = -7,8 ....but who cares?

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 11:58 | 618422 Restcase
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They compiled it by asking the professors there whether they had confidence in Obama.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 14:33 | 618848 TheGoodDoctor
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Looks like a bunch of Confidence Men are making up the stats again.

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