• Reggie Middleton
    02/09/2010 - 05:12
    The levered assets of the banks in many Euro-sovereign nations easily outstrip those nations' GDP's. So when the nations' banks get in trouble from bad banking practices (and a very large swath have), the nations themselves are helpless in attempting to truly save the banks (and instead only institute a bait and switch wherein private default risk/insolvency potential is swapped for public manifestations of the same).
  • madhedgefundtrader
    02/09/2010 - 07:22
    The rug may about to be pulled out from under the market. The onslaught of contradictory news coming out of Washington is wearing the market down. An exclusive interview with Andrew Horowitz of The Disciplined Investor.

Loans Versus Bonds Relative Value: Week of August 6

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It's official: irrational exuberance in the secondary market is back. Indicative loans are now at just over 400 bps while bonds are less than double that at 761 bps. Of course, everyone at this point has forgotten the expectation of 20% defaults in HY names by the end of 2009. All shall be well in 5x+ leveraged consumer names wich make mattresses. Not sure if the Sealy loans trading 450 bps outside of bonds is real or not, but who really cares: the bond squeeze could easily push it so tight you would have to pay the company to hold their CCC-rated toxic paper.

Next week: look for loans to trade as wide as US CDS, with bonds squeezed to nano bps over zero.

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by Anonymous
on Wed, 08/12/2009 - 08:43
#33732

The very volatile 30-year bond is giving our model fits, having crossed over the signal line five times in the last eight weeks, we have seen the bond move between roughly 4.3% and 4.6% six times in that same span. Bond investors have a lot to worry about, from the declining dollar, to debt issuance (added supply), to rebounding economic pressures, to still higher government spending. Depending upon the day of the week, bonds are either rallying strongly or falling like a stone. Commodity prices have leveled out over the past two months, soothing some of the inflationary fears, however the willingness of Washington to spend (and ours to receive!) is filling the pipeline of bond issuance well above what many believe the markets will bear – without significantly raising rates to clear the inventory.
http://www.financialsense.com/economy/nolte/2009/0811.html

by B_Movie
on Wed, 08/12/2009 - 08:52
#33736

so much for yesterdays trading under last months high, a strong reaction to get back above that montly level.

what a powerful daily bar already painted. good lord,

by Anonymous
on Wed, 08/12/2009 - 08:53
#33739

This is because -- for the average retail baby boomer -- corporate debt is the new equity, equity the new option, and option the new, retail accessible, "equity default swap".

It's a perfectly logical progression actually as boomers become more risk adverse while they traverse into their retirement years. And it is no wonder why the government feels relatively comfortable floating so much debt -- there is going to voracious demand for it down the line.

by Anonymous
on Wed, 08/12/2009 - 09:10
#33744

Exactamundo....

by dnarby
on Wed, 08/12/2009 - 09:29
#33754

OK, you painted an eloquent picture, if you would, please put it in a frame.  Why is there going to be voracious demand for debt down the line?

by Anonymous
on Wed, 08/12/2009 - 10:39
#33830

+1 for the idea of Sealy and Certa being the next GS and MS.

by Gilgamesh
on Wed, 08/12/2009 - 15:21
#34445

Select Comfort is the next BoA?

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