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Low Level Radioactivity Found In US Milk, Despite Obama Promise That "Radiation Will Not Reach" America
The Environmental Protection Agency and the Food and Drug Administration say that very low levels of radiation have turned up in a sample of milk from Washington state. But federal officials say consumers should not worry.
The FDA said such findings are to be expected in the coming days because of the nuclear crisis in Japan, and that the levels are expected to drop relatively quickly.
Results from a March 25 milk sample taken from Spokane, Wash., show levels of radioactive Iodine-131 that are still 5,000 times below levels of concern set by the FDA, including levels set for infants and children.
The EPA said it is increasing the level of nationwide monitoring of milk, precipitation and drinking water following the crisis at the Japanese nuclear power plant.
That's the bad news. The good news is that Obama promised radiation will never reach the US. And Obama would never lie.
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Non-dairy creamer, bitchez.
All cow's milk and all human milk has been contaminated with radio-isotopes since the era of American above ground atomic testing. The thing to struggle to keep in mind, while being bombarded with this endless stream fear-mongering propaganda, is that radio-iodine has a half life of five days. A month from now you'll have to find something else to get excited about.
After being repeatedly lied to, a rational person distrusts the source. Small amounts of iodine-131 may become larger amounts as time goes on.
Also, FYI, Iodine-131 has a half-life of eight days. From Wiki:
If there is anything else that might help keep you from winning a Darwin Award, please let us know.
Obama promised campaign finance reform.
Obama promised to end the war in Iraq.
Obama promised to bring troops home from Afghanistan.
Obama promised greater "Wall Street accountability".
Obama promised a clearer and more domestic-centered energy policy.
See a trend? The trend is your friend.
That man is Full-O-Shit.
Are you not fluent in Fed Speak?
Yep.
Way down here in Georgia us gun totin' rednecks call it a "blivet."
20 lbs of shit in a 10 lb sack.
well I think he dresses quite well...
bound to make a good president if you ask me...
policies suck, but then why spoil a good story for the sake of a few simple facts...
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Yeah, the FDA say it last about 8 days but that is assuming the flow stops coming. I have a lot of faith in our younger people rising up against this crap. Like with protests in the M.E and across europe. The internets allow us to read the truth about bailouts, democracy/federalisation, war and pollution, etc. Money printing, taxation and wotnot. Politicians who don't get a grip and start representing their constituents better look for a new job I say. 'Enough of this sort of thing'
silver gave us the internet.
as it kills viruses and bacteria, it shall too disinfect this planet from banker scum.
entomb fuckyoushima.
silver gave us the internet.
as it kills viruses and bacteria, it shall too disinfect this planet from banker scum.
entomb fuckyoushima.
Who's testing for plutonium and other harmful fallout here?
Of course it will never be found if all we are looking for is iodine.
You hit the nail on the head: iodine has the shortest half-life. You think they want to tell us if they found some trace elements of something with a half-life of 24,000 years like Pu-239?
A responsible gov would be testing all over the US, and releasing the data.
With good data one can make good choices.
Of course, our Gov is responsible only to the corporate/mil/intel overlords.
I'm not keeping a half-gallon of milk in the fridge for 24,000 years.
Honey, I know it's dark, but have you seen the baby's bottle? Ahh, there it is.
There is no radioactivity anywhere! All the levels are safe across the board. Continue to consume and produce. /sarc
Sounds to me like these CEOs and Gov. 'experts' have taken a note from the beloved Baghdad Bob: We have them surrounded!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s27Oq5ot0ZI
You mean if they stop the ongoing release of radiation from Fukushima of course. Otherwise fresh iodine 131 will keep contaminating the environment.
Don't forget the details, genius. ;-)
TPOG
please forgive us, we don't publish our IQs. Don't have a cow, we're just milking the subject.
Don't have a cow, we're just milking the subject.
Well, that statement is just udder-ly ridiculous!
how now?
how now?
With jokes like this, I'm afraid we will have to put you out to pasture.
Apparently, IQ is no substitute for a sense of humor.
If I could "unjunk" this comment I absolutely would. You've got more to worry about with the radiation you get flying to your vacation than you do from milk. ZH'ers ought to be smart enough to not get their panties in such a wad over this. How many of you refuse to let the dentist irradiate your skull and an annual basis. How about that x-ray when you crap up your wrist skiing at Aspen? Come on - at these levels it's a waste of time even worrying about this.
I don't get teeth xrays. It is just a way for the dentist to make extra money. How many times have you had your teeth irradiated and the dentist said "aha. I found something I wouldn't have known about and we need to change our treatment because of the xray" How about zero? Why take a treatment that has virtually zero chance of finding something that changes the dentist's treatment if it has some risk? And no there is no reason to get an xray on a probable non displaced wrist fracture. If it is displaced then it will be obvious. If it is non displaced you are just going to protect it in a sling and soft cast until it heals. We xray too much
so I'm not going to become the newest memeber of the fantastic 4 then?...
damn...
that's my dreams of being 'Captain toothless bald twat' gone for a shit...
Didn'cha hear? Bald twats have been all the rage for years...started in Brazil or something...
Hey moron. Is the flow going to stop in a few half lives?
IQ145.....you may not be worried about the radiation now, but give it a month....and when it hasnt stopped spewing ,give it another month
this will not have stopped in two months....in fact, if it goes anything like chernobyl, it will still be leaking in 25 years....and there will still be no real permanent solution
so drink your milk, kool aid or what ev..
I like Obama he's some smart
endless stream fear-mongering propaganda, is that radio-iodine has a half life of five days. A month from now you'll have to find something else to get excited about.
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Great does that mean that the textbook you read tells the truth? Or the guy who works for the reactor firm is nothing but top shelf?
Dude - get out of your dorm, head out onto the street, grab 30 quarts of milk, swallow large and then tell how you feel.
Nerds get more goddamn stupid every day.
Take that 1 off your avatar you don't do it justice. In my world that let's you be my janitor.
Wrong. Radioactive iodine-131 has a half life of almost 9 days not five and radiation is cumulative meaning it continues to builds up in your body's organs like heavy metals such as lead, until you die a slow painful death of cancer. Worse, just simply injesting a micro particle of radioactive iodine a whole month later means that radiation is now only a micron away from cellular damage.
@ IQ145 I-131 has a half life of 8 days moron, as a matter of fact no radio iodine has a 5 day half life you retard!
And why don't we do atmospheric atomic testing anymore? It is because of the undeniable health effects it was causing. The government was successfully sued by downwinders and in 2005 the National Academy of Sciences has recommended extending the downwinder compensation to people who were in hot spots outside the geographic boundaries originally set.
"Groups concerned about the health effects of radioactive fallout welcomed today's release of a National Academy of Sciences (NAS) report recommending that eligibility for the federal compensation program for people suffering from cancer connected to U.S. nuclear weapons tests not be limited to its current geographic boundaries and urged Congress to move quickly to assist sick downwinders. The NAS study said that Congress should implement science-based changes that, in effect, would extend coverage of the Radiation Exposure Compensation Act (RECA), which is now limited to residents of parts of Nevada, southern Utah and Arizona as well as workers who handled uranium.
"The National Cancer Institute has shown that there were hot spot areas all over the country where milk was contaminated. People with a high risk of thyroid cancer should be compensated without delay wherever they lived without having to jump through hoops," said Arjun Makhijani, Ph.D., president of the Institute for Energy and Environmental Research (IEER), referring to a 1997 National Cancer Institute (NCI) report on radioactive iodine doses from fallout. "The cancer risks from fallout other than thyroid cancer still need to be determined by careful study. The available science on other cancer risks from testing is inadequate because scientists have not talked to the downwinders carefully enough to determine all the pathways by which they were exposed. For example, radioactive ash deposited after test blasts on laundry as it dried outside could have led to higher exposures than what has been accounted for.""
http://www.ieer.org/latest/nasrecapr.html
yawn
long yawn silver?
And if you think the US government is playing down the health risks, you should look at the Canadian non-government. British Columbia is on it's way of becoming inhabitable, yet there is no news of this. The smart money keeps dumping B.C. real estate at full speed.
hey Ahmeexnal, how bad is it in BC? Do you have a source? thanks man.
Vancover real estate was WAY over priced.
Smart money? Only 4 years late.
you mean UNinhabitable? if so why? any links
Ah crap that means the asian gangs, Asian real estate specs, tree huggers, trannies and every other peer group is heading out to my Maritimes.
Great, just great
Got radioactive milk?
Let them eat cheese.
- Tepco Antionette
Are these the "Newly revised" safe levels? I don't believe a single fucking thing any gov't agency is saying about any aspect of radioactivity any longer.
Same!
~Misstrial
My soil is now warm.(North Carolina)Beta activity that was not there before.I have no way to tell if it is Iodine,Strontium, Cesium or all or some of them.No more fresh milk for the children.
Pennsylvania found Iodine in their rainwater.Damn.I am loving the dearth of news on where hot spots are in the US and general ignoring of the impact here.
Evil Bastards.
SWEET - the hits just keep on comin'
what about breast milk? anyone?
Unless your wife grazes large areas or otherwise gets exposure, it is fine.
Cows are like grass vacuum cleaners...they cover a large area.This is how the concentration effect works..crudely put.
I hope this helps.
they cover a large area.....you should see my WIFE! (rimshot)
You will only get breast cancer by the time you are fifty. Don't worry.
After Chernobyl, a minister of the French gov said that the radioactive cloud stopped dead at the Swiss Border. Magic. This time, it did manage to cross the border, but flew way up high above us. Oh, lucky. Obama's been taking lessons.
that particular radiation has been hanging around since the flood
Maybe this will cause future generations of Americans to grow an extra set of balls... because the current generation has NONE.
Destroyed from the inside, in the wide open, by a few old guys in suits. What a tragic part of history this is.
+1
OK, there is really nothing funny at all about this tragedy.....but I've gotta give you a +1000 on this one.
Comic relief can be a wonderful thing.
+1000000000000000
This is easy, raise the safe levels. Duh! Problem solved.
Time to break out the stash of powdered milk. Already set up with Coffee Mate for a year.
This is turning into every bit of the disaster the nuclear cheer leaders said would never happen. No one trusts anything they are hearing, for perfectly understandable reasons. And so far we have been lucky with the atmospheric movements.
But don't panic anyone. Radiation is good for you.
And the remarkable remedial actions that we are seeing are, parden my technical jargon, straight out of the Flintstones. Clearly, this is an industry that drank its own kool aid.
I'm starting to miss the sunshine pumpers
This is turning into every bit of the disaster the nuclear cheer leaders said would never happen.
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Not really ... it seems to be going down about how it it would once reactor #3 was seen blowing and any hope of 'recovering' cooling operations was gone ...
Next stop: 'operation garbage dispose all' ...
They better get going. typhoon season starts in a few months.
Yes,WB7 it is an EPIC FAIL.I have supported nuclear power my whole life.
Not anymore...perhaps in some alternate reality where the bean counters have less importance than those who care about public health...it could work.
But as of now...the downside is so horrible,pervasive and long lasting I have to say NO.
The dirt in my yard is radioactive....that pretty much convinces me.In Asheville,NC.
My poor friends in Japan...God help them.
remedial actions...straight out of the Flintstones.
Image, please. :)
Obama's Adonis DNA is impervious to all radioisotopes.
Besides, he takes Coffee Mate in his arugula tea.
Got Milk, bitchez?!
http://squathole.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/got_milk_1.jpg
People are all anal about organic. How will this effect them? New labels needed to show radiation.
Tyler,
You made a very rare typographical error in the title.
You said "Obama promise"
That is a misnomer. There is no such thing.
Well..............Obama did say he didn't expect harmful levels of radiation to reach America. So this isn't a promise, just an expectation. He is expecting non harmful radiation to come over.
His expectations can always be modified depending upon which way the political wind blows.
I gotta back out of this whole discussion, CD. The headline is just too sensational and obviously a sop to the bashers. Given the slant that it is Obama's fault now that there is a whisker of something somewhere in something... Hey, I gotta go. Need to restock some older foodstuffs in the shelter.
I WILL be junked for not sipping the Obama-sucks kool aid.
So the government scientists idea is that if it has a half life of 5 days and it takes 5 days to get here, then there won't be a problem?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-life
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iodine-131
So iodine 131 will continue to increase around the world for 2 months before we hit a peak? (8 day half life with 7 cycles)
Edit: assuming a constant release of iodine 131 over 2months to reach saturation
another ploy to down-play concerns.
half life = 8 days = all gone in 8 days
liars.
The sad thing is is that that is what the sheeple will hear read to them on CNN and beileve it, not even knowing that it is really 80 days until harmless.
Never underestimate calculated misinformation. TPTB know that a vast percentage of citizens are idiots. The government educated them, and knows exactly how to manipulate indoctrinated belief systems.
Diabolical sons of bitches.
A halflife of 8 days means that in eight days, half of the material will have degraded, then eight days later, half of the remaining material will follow that.etc...
A little education goes a long way.
pennsylvania rainwater-sample-3300-above-federal-drinking-water-standard
http://tinyurl.com/4zwdglk
is dancing with the stars on tonight?
Sorry, I would rather glow/die then start believing either of these two agencies. Why? Either way you are still going to glow. More useless bureaucratic laws will ensue which drain the taxpayers purse to resolve absolutely nothing. Well except get more undeserving central planners rich.
again the phrase of very low or low amounts is being used i prefer a quantifying amount as opposed to a qualititative described amount ...why no actual readings? its obviously high enough to be recorded. and is the level the new and improved level or previous radiation levels?
"little rascals...dont drink the milk...why" its poisoned"...no shiiiit!
if the friggin fridge glows after the door is closed is it still safe to drink?
Obama lie?
You betcha!
Anyone know any place to get or a general milk product that would not be affected by this? While it may be sensational and I completely agree that the levels may very well be immaterial to my health and that of my family, I would still prefer to obtain milk from a place that does not have increased levels of harmful substances, whatever they may be. Do I need to get my own cows?
yeah..powdered dry milk or in can(evaporated) in your grocery store..tonight and the rest of this week.
Almond milk. Works pretty much the same way for me. Don't trust much from a dairy these days. BTW, you can make almond milk pretty easily in a blender so you can buy canned almonds and store them and make it as you need it. One of my 'preparadness' supplies. Not too mention it's healthier(no added pus)...
If anyone has radioactive gold or silver, I'm willing to make a huge sacrifice for humanity and take it off your hands.
(d)
thinik of the food innovations!!
forget pepper jack cheese...sheeit... we have Strontium 90 Blue Cheese
helps you build strong bones that might come in handy when youre changing your flat on a dark road.
We have I-131 Flavored Yogurt - yummm!!
or Parmesan Fukushima ..puts Reggiano to shame!
Cooking with tobacco.
I just got off the phone to my toyota mechanic. I said there was a clicking sound coming from the engine. He said that's impossible, - they won't have the geiger counter until next year.
Herman Strand Schnecke
rim shot.
'rim shot.'
No. An attempt at german humor in a time of diversity.
I thought that was pretty good for a German...
new milk ad... Got KI?
it's 5 fucking thousand times lower than FDA limits. JFC...it doesn't even warrant a headline
Are you sure? And by the way, its K F C.
This isn't the radioactivity you're looking for...you can go about your business...move along..move along..
Trav,
Just out of curiousity, when the "officials" in Toyko said it was not safe to give tap water to your 1-year-old, what would you do if you had a two-year-old, a five-year-old, a thirteen-year old...etc. Would you take a chance? What about your wife. What about your parents. What about you?
Trav,
1st off - fuck you. You piece of shit. From Portland, OR.
2nd - it's seemingly always worse than advertised.
lastly - you tell your kids to go to lacrosse or soccer practice in the rain. Tell them there's nothing to worry bout. Tell them not to worry bout the food. The milk. Oh, and remind yourself if your kids ever end up w/ thyroid disorder or cancer that it had nothing to do with this. Like you know a fucking thing.
I ride a bike every fucking day in the rain here in Portland AND monitor background radiation levels. All you pussies should stay in your homes and curl up in the fetal position and suck your thumbs - I'll let you all know when my throat starts getting sore!
Hey my Portland peeps! Hambone, I'm with you. Colddirt, care to share your monitoring source? If it's this:
http://public.health.oregon.gov/Preparedness/CurrentHazards/Pages/AirMon...,
well you just keep on dreamin', tough-guy biker dude...
5 fucking thousand times lower than FDA limits, but not low enough for this ZH doomsday-circle-jerk to jack all over it, on the hour and every hour ad infintum
I think it's only poetic justice that the US should get some radiation since it was HAARP that caused the earthquake in the first place.
Drink GE Milk. Radiation is good for America. It provides jobs to the Cancer Industry in order to increase America's GDP. Be a patriot, help build GE nuclear plants around the country.
For a number of years I have spent the extra money and buy local organic milk - tastes great and lasts longer for some reason.
Sadly the small local dairy farmers are the ones that will be hurt most by this ( other than the people who drink it.) The smaller farmers generally let their cows out to graze on pasture and drink water from outdoor tanks. This is where the current contamination is most likely getting into the food chain from.
The big factory farms almost never let their cows outside. They are fed commercially produced grain & hay (safe for now, since it was typically harvested last summer & fall, then stored in sheds, silos, etc.). Water provided in buckets, and is generally sourced from deep wells.
Yes, after drinking organic milk for some time the non-organic has a wierd taste. Sort of like how after drinking water purified by a Burkee with 2 kinds of filters you can actually smell the chemicals, flouride, chlorine, and who knows what else, in your tap water. And kind of like how after using non-fluoride toothpaste for a period of time, but you run out so you dig out the Crest from the back of the drawer, you gag and even vomit while trying to brushing your teeth with that poison. Now that you mention it, organic milk does seem to last longer. I think if I had access to raw milk, I'd come to feel the same way about homoginized.
it lasts longer because its ultra pasteurized. regular milk thats is usually only pasteurized.
foods with LIFE get spoiled easier than does processed processed food. think about it. organic whole wheat bread spoils quickly..white bread lasts a long long time. white bread has few to little nutrients, and that it contains preservatives, it can't support basic life...how do we expect it to support us? just my 2Cu01s
The 'organic' milk is probably from a different type of cow than 'non-organic'. Some breeds of cows' milk have different amounts of sugars in them. The downside is that the higher sugar content milk is less efficient at being produced and thus requires more feed/gallon.
Mass produced milk usually comes from more efficient milk producing cows... at least this is what I've been told.
The extra radiation should kick their milk production into super turbo mode. :-)
O is promising two udders for every cow...I know, udderly irresponsible spending...
Radioactivity - It does a body good
There is a German folk band called kraftwerk and they made a record in 1975 called Radioactivity.
"It's in the air for you and me...."
"Wenn's um unsere Zukunft geht
(when its about our future.." dah de dah..
I can not cease humming it in my head.
Herman Strand Schnecke (Herman Beach Screw)
Favorite Kraftwerk track:
"Der Telefon Anruf."
These guys are fantastisch.
yes, cure cancer without knowing it.
Got Glow?!
You mean this kind of glow ?
Paul Root Wolpe: It's time to question bio-engineering | Video on TED.com
crazy scientists, they really need /want to locate the serfs in the dark...
How unpatriotic of EPA. O-man should order Homeland Security to shut it down.
Anyone who is or may ever get pregnant or impregnate anyone in their lifetime should go to Uruguay, now.
http://www.enerhealthbotanicals.com/blog/special-report-protecting-yours...
we can mitigate.
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Nuclear Radiation Detox
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...this is still stock bullish...right?
yep...good for at least 100 points tomorrow.
How can he make such a claim?
Now I understand why Obama wanted to get universal (and mandatory) health care passed so quickly!
Yep, milk drinkers & cheese eaters can expect their insurance premiums to go up now. And prospective employers will start requiring new hires to pass a dairy test <snark, I hope>.
and a Geiger counter pass as well...
Radiation will not reach America because of the magic border.
Radiation from Fukushima has already been detected in seaweed and water in Vancouver, British Columbia, just north of Blaine Washington.
Luckily, it does not have the Passport now required to travel to the United States of Fantasyland.
The TSA will take care of it.
" federal officials say consumers should not worry"
"Obama promised radiation will never reach the US"
"if questioned about this matter in the future, I will simply refer the questioner back to this release."
Oh man I'm feeling so much better now.
You should know by now that when they say something, it's exactly the opposite that occurs...didn't learn your lesson.
....come a little gamma ray.....
The japanese need to entomb it now! It seems they don't care much about the problem because all the radiation is drifting west. They are about to become a complete pariah nation if they let this thing continue to leak.
entombment in a seismic area = no good, in addition a sarcophagus on critical mass in fusion will have the effect of a pressure cooker...
when it cracks after an earthquake re-entomb it. Otherwise we are just going to leak radiation forever? It is going to have to be resealed and re-floored a bunch of times over the next century. Have you got a better idea that stops this permanent leakage of radiation?
Besides if it is melted they can add lead and boron and stir. that will lower the fision rate.
You don't want to know....fusion keeps on for a very long time even after a plant is decommissioned. The lobby does not give a damn, because Thorium could have been used instead which is both safer and much more cost effective. In fact China has chosen Thorium for its future plants. Wise choice..
I don't think he answered one question!!!
if you see any radiation in your milk just call home land security, duh...
Isn't radiation measured in Sunshine Units? Cheer up, people.
No doubt both the Japanese as well as US government officials knew a week after the earthquake, that the entire plant was a lost cause. They could have saved a large portion of their country and the rest of the world a dose of radiation if they had entombed the entire FUBAR site in concrete rather than pissing around with it all this time.
Has anyone here considered the dilution effect of crossing the Pacific (last time I checked it was half the world)? If it is concentrated enough to still be bad after that, wouldn't a big part of Japan be sterile by now?
hey hey hold on there, no logic allowed on these threads, only fear mongering and mindless panic
No panic here but an "abundance of caution" - remember that phrase? The Tyler's have not been fear mongering but pointing out that there has been a lack of credible, transparent information that might suggest some type of cover up, which, sadly, seems to have been proven as true.
Finally some change we can believe in. Bail out the dairy industry!!!!
Eh US milk is already toxic ... rBGH
In Australia we have the political concept of 'core' and 'non-core' promises, when politicians want to lie about shit they won't do, or kite-fly impossible proposals ... this was a 'non-core' promise Tyler.
If low level traces of "radiation" are starting to be detected on the US West coast, imagine what they are getting in Korea/China/Russia East Coasts.
I wonder how fast the radiation shows up in cow milk, a few hours after consuming contaminated water/grass?
No one fucking LIES like the "Obama"
Hey IQ point145
I put the . back in your title,you must have forgotten it.
I said this would happen. The new QE is spelled H-A-A-R-P. The radiation levels are probably bogus, btw. What matters is perception. Just wait until they start dumping milk, water, and burning crops. You ain't seen nothing yet.
What I wouldn't give to see Obama's face on a milk carton(irradiated or not) right now...WB7?
How can it be 5,000 times lower??? WTF, if it was ONE time lower it would be zero.
A pox on all morons that don't know their rithmatic!!
Dog
+1
so funny I just squirted radioactive milk thru my nose!
I don't drink milk. I was formula fed. That is why my brain didn't develop like a normal reptile. Cow poop protects you from radiation. Did you know that? Those that are very concerned can move out to the country and begin slathering themselves up in it for extra protection. You could live in a sod house and coat the roof with it as well. Do ZH'ers care about something else besides BTFD? If I were you I would stop listening to people like George Monbiot and others of his ilk. Those government trolls appear to be very active in their efforts to implement damage control for the nucular industry right now over the internet. Right now imho tptb are trying to frame the energy debate and corral it into a debate the use of coal as an alternative. The prohibition for agricultural and industrial hemp needs to be lifted. I will be working towards that objective personally.