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The Madness Of A Lost Society
The following video is a must watch 4 minutes of content that will never be seen on mainstream TV. Some jarring images of what US society has unfortunately devolved to. As the narrator says: "This is what a dumbed-down, morally bankrupt, completely broken society looks like, and this is how it behaves. No outrage over the bankers raping them, no outrage over their gutted industry, no outrage over their plundered dollar. Just blind, wanton stupidity. Just bread and circuses."
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'Its the season to be jolly..lalalalala la la la la...'
saw this yesterday. Had the same thought. There's another good one showing people fighting over some boxes.
All I can imagine is the Chinese kicking back, tuned into US television laughing their fucking asses off.
Look at the ffront page of the NY Times right now.....
http://www.nytimes.com/
They have a comments section......time to give them a little bit of what the Zero Hedge crowd thinks about such blatant propaganda.
Everybody is looking out for themselves, apparently even our trusted leaders. Please tell me that you are actually surprised.
"In those days there was no king in Israel; everyone did what was right in his own eyes." Judges 21:25
I think it's time to rephrase the catch phrase "Bread and Circuses", to "Bread, Circuses and Soap Operas".
Society is falling apart because the unwashed masses no longer have their daytime soaps to keep them enthralled.
We need a new daytime soap called, "As The Republic Melts Down", or better yet, "Days of the Lost Society".
Well, who really needs a daytime soap when you can turn on CNBC, MSNBC, Faux News, and CNN and watch it all happen in real time.
"As the World Burns"
"Days of Our Hive"
Soaps are old school. I think a reality series would work. All the drama, less bad acting.
Starring Rick Springfield.
In those days when there was an "empty suit" in the White house...."
It seems to me that a lot of the footage of this video is taken from the Private Putin Cable Network of RT... if anyone with half a brain tuned in to RT network on cable for more than 30 seconds, they would immediately notice that the Soviet Propaganda machine is alive and thriving.
Not all Americans are like the people in this video... only the undeducated and unenlightened... ask yourself why all of the people in this video are all overweight... same underpinning reason... their belief that hapiness can be "bought" and that "more is better than less".
Just remember that many, many more Americans chose not participate in Black Friday... only a small percentage of Americans allowed themselves to become cattle for slaughter.
In the long run, LESS IS BETTER THAN MORE.
But what do I know... I am just a Dick Weed.
At least Russian TV gives a different point of view. Our national media (propaganda) outlets are owned by our masters.
Look at the news today, the Fed gave UBS (a Swiss Bank) 74.5 Billion during the last bailout.....isn't that treason? Taxation without representation? Is there any outcry to the total 3.3 TRILLION giveaway? Where is the USA media?
It's past time for all us immensely fat Walmartians to converge on D.C. on our electric carts....CHARGE! ...beep ...beep ...beep
The reason it resonates is because most folks recognize a little bit of themselves. The reason it's so urgent is because our enemy's propaganda is our more or less accurate.
I really think the US will readily choose fascism. Jesus, the media propaganda has these bulltards so confused, they won't even realize it. They'll call it liberty.
Dick Weed is smarter than many Ass Hats that inhabit the interwebs.
Max K. makes me think about propaganda every time I see his press.ir and RT vids.
Not that I am a commie witch hunter, but I like my info neutral.
Maybe Max K can move to Switzerland? I hear they are neutral... They have nice bomb shelters too!
I have heard Max diss both Communism and Putin on RT occasionally to be fair. But he looked pretty nervous when he was saying it.
That being said... There is a large segment of the population that is taken by consumerism and you'd be a fool not to recognize it.
It's a serious problem.
"info neutral"? There is no neutral info. It all comes at us from some point of view. Know the source, know the slant, determine the truth on your own.
3% is all it takes. Ideology doesn't matter.
Those who did not participate and likely prepared in some way, and will not be a problem. I would be more concerned with those who have no clue about self-reliance, who think food is "go to the freezer, get the box", or the McD's drive-thru. These people are already zombies. As long as the food conveyor keeps delivering, they wil not strike out in search of brains.
We need to remember that this is not a uniquely American trait. I know many immigrants who are as excited by Black Friday as any American, and who have similar situations developing in their home countries. This is the endgame of a global philosophy that says bankers are those appropriate to decide how wealth is distributed in the world. It will collapse again, just as it has many times through history, and there will be a new baseline. My parents generation was notable because having witnessed the devastation that comes in the aftermath of a bubble like this, they had it burned into them to act prudently and conservatively. More recent generations have once again forgotten. It's human nature and is highly cyclical. Those of us who see the signs need to prepare ourselves for a bad time, then survive it, and then welcome the rebuilding that follows.
Fish Gone Bad
on Wed, 12/01/2010 - 10:50
#767873
Everybody is looking out for themselves, apparently even our trusted leaders. Please tell me that you are actually surprised.
Dude, no different than most of the " Oh God shit is gonna fall apart I got my Gold and Guns and will kill anyone comes near me" assholes posting here. I bet a few were even in those Bf crowds.
I see zero difference between the rampaging greedy crowds in the video and the shitheels crying they want a return to free markets and no taxes so as to protect their own wealth and immediate pleasures.
Nobody learned this fucking lesson the first time around.
If I wanted to destroy a nation, I would give it too much and I would have it on its knees, miserable, greedy and sick.
John Steinbeck
Really, you see no difference between retarded consumers, unable to take care of themselves, even for a few hours, completely ignorant to the realities that surround them and consumed by marketing. Drones searching for the next iCrap gadget that the TV told them will bring them happiness. Totally willing to get their junk groped as long as they get to Thanksgiving orgy/vomitorium. You don't see the obvious basal animal mentality of the degenerates forming that crowd and the pack mentality that would drive them to kill each other over a piece of bread like teenagers in Mogadishu or Brazilia.
You see no difference between them and those of us that see the meaning of that crowd and the actions of our "masters" who rob us blind while claiming to protect us from emergency to emergency, and are preparing for the obvious storm gathering in the horizon and the sure die-off that will follow it. We see the pale horse and are protecting our families and neighbors by been ready ourselves and, like Paul Revere, riding the electronic streets warning them.
If you see no difference, I pitty you. May the chains of tyranny be light upon your feet.
Retard.
+ 1oz
Amazing how some people just don't get "it" even as "it" sits there like a big blinking neon sign slapping them in the face with a hot iron skillet...
Well stated
goldsaver
Tell me brother what monastery do you live in? As I understand it the only way to be truly free is to have no possessions. The Bible, the Buddhists, the Hindu's all say the same thing.
Even desiring to have no desire is still desire.
Give me some map coordinates to the monastery so I can become just as free as you. Just a beggars bowl and staff for us, right brother?
Sheryl Crow said it best,
"It's not having what you want, It's wanting what you've got"
what i want is what i've not got
and what i need is all around me
-- dave matthews band "jimi thing"--
That is a great quote. Reminds me of Bono's line from "Beautiful Day"
"What you don't have you don't need it now"
Gully,
The Bible says no such thing........read it,before making dumb assertions.
http://www.openbible.info/topics/material_possessions
I hope JPM is the big bank target of Wikileaks.
I used to work for JPM. They have PLENTY of bad behavior to expose.
Overly simplistic nonsense. This may come as a shock but, when you are poor, deeply discounted merchandise IS meaningful enough to stampede over. I highly doubt those that condemn that mad stampeding rush on black friday, including the producer of this video, lives in a mudhut eating rice like some Zen monk. We all live in a capitalist system in this country, for better for for worse, and what does that mean? Prices mean everything.
People need things, people want things...it doesn't make them animals, nor is it degrading to go after what you want. We're only human beings, afterall.
And I think it's funny to note that crap like this is always has the big gold bug ribbon wrapped around it - doomers, end-o-worlders, foreseers of the impending apocalyptic nightmare love to promote the shiny yellow metal.
Oh come on, I'm poor compared to the images projected on this site, and I didn't stampede through stores on Black Friday. But then I have enough dignity not to crouch down and lick the banker's boots with that set of apologists either.
I was not referring to people poor relative to ZH users, I'm talking about the conventional poor. This has to do with supply, demand, and pricing. It's not "banker boot licking" - read an economics book.
I suspect you have no idea what poor is. Try visiting a mountain village in Central America a half day walk from the nearest paved road as I have. Those people living in mud huts with one change of cloths have more dignity and self respect than these lost souls stampeding Walmart. Do not make excuses for these people. They will be the end of us all. Yes they are poor. They are poor in judgment, poor in morality, poor in knowledge and truly impoverished in spirit.
Be stunned and amazed,
blind yourselves and be sightless;
be drunk, but not from wine,
stagger, but not from beer.
The LORD has brought over you a deep sleep:
He has sealed your eyes (the prophets);
he has covered your heads (the seers).
Ysaiyah 29
Dude, its bad enough as it is, let's leave the good Lord out of it.
The good Lord is in it otherwise he is not Omniscient, Omnipotent and Omnipresent. If you do not feel his presence in this you are missing a lot.
This internet radio broadcast should be listened by many:
http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=93355345&msgid=667056&act=Y2YT&c=540346&destination=http://www.watchmanscry.com/audio/Nathan_113010.mp3
Give this a drink on me.
Your suspicious are wrong, I do know what poor is. Makes you wonder what other "suspicions" you have are wrong.
Yes, SOME of those people in Central American mountain villages have more dignity than SOME American poor folks. You do realize not every single poor person in America was waiting outside of Best Buy for a laptop though, right? Hopefully you also realize that not every poor person in undeveloped economies is dignified. You reduced both examples of poverty to a meaningless stereotype as "evidence" that Americans are lost souls. Not really sure that proves anything.
Chito, you seem to be oversimplifying yourself. To defend the behaviour shown as somehow driven by needs is indicative of propaganda stunted thinking.
Very instructive to sit down and make a list of your own needs Vs. Wants.
The final list might shock you.
ORI
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2010/12/01/of-leaking-wikis-and-true-lies/
Oh regional indian - Here's a quote from what I wrote: "People need things, people want things"
We already agree there are wants an needs. You went temporarily blind as your eyes moved over the "people want things" part of the sentence and then started to moralize. Yes, you can't breathe, drink, or eat laptops. No need to point that out.
I'll stop there. People who start arguing that we shouldn't be buying laptops in the first place because we should all be ascetic monks are talking about something entirely different than what I'm talking about. (Should I point out the hypocrisy of that stance as you post comments on a website from a computer connected to the Internet? Hmm...)
I didn't see anyone fighting over loaves of bread or canned goods.
Those days are in the future.
...and they will burn stuff down after they've picked it to the bone.
Exactly Rocky poor stupid Chito wants to believe his hypocrisy and ommissions makes him right. Those people aren't buying discounted items they "need" they are fighting people for toys and electronics to stop their child from crying by using their last pennies that they got from selling food stamps.
Yes, that's exactly what's happening. Keep pumping the grand metanarrative of complete societal dislocation and, if you wish hard enough, it will some day be true.
I've already addressed the want/need issue. Try some reading comprehension on for size.
Oh regional Indian
on Wed, 12/01/2010 - 12:33
#768479
Chito, you seem to be oversimplifying yourself. To defend the behaviour shown as somehow driven by needs is indicative of propaganda stunted thinking.
Very instructive to sit down and make a list of your own needs Vs. Wants.
The final list might shock you.
ORI
Fuck dude it was crowd behavior. Steinbeck describes that mind set in a couple of books. People act differently when in a crowd than when alone.
Sure the people showed up to "get a deal". Then group think took over. What the fuck difference is there between this type of group behavior and Soccer riots? Terry Pratchett mentioned it in Unseen Academicals.
Shit if fiction authors can grasp the essentials of group dynamics why does it evade our smart asses?
There would have been no Stampedes, except for the so CALLED Limited quanities,(loss leaders).
If everyone that wanted whatever they went for, had an ample supply available, then the HERD instinct would have been unecessary.
And averted.
Browning describes it even better in Ordinary Men. Take a bunch of regular cops from the city, and the boonies, give them nicer uniforms, tell them they are really special, get them used to a little target practice on those less special, and voila! Have a nice pogrom, or rather an ongoing extermination campaign.
Right. A wise fellow slave said to me once, "Oppression and poverty don't make you righteous."
hear! hear!
Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:3
So what is the problem?
Now that one is really open to interpretation. I doubt he was saying the folks in the Walmart stampede were on their way to heaven. My guess is that he was talking about those who are physically poor in this world who do not chose to be angry and resentful about their condition. "But seek first His kingdom and His righteousness, and all these things will be added to you." Matthew 6:33
Just because you are calling people in a kingdom blessed doesn't make it so. No kingdom has ever worked. Period. It will never work.
I have a mini farm in Central America, and our neighbors are like the people you mentioned, only they do have a few nickles to rub together. They're real people. People who care about their families, and really enjoy their lives. It's sad how much importance people put on material goods in the US, and the people in that video should be pitied.
I repeat - COMPUTER + INTERNET CONNECTION = POST ON ZEROHEDGE.COM. Both ingredients are "material goods", no? I have no response to the "quiety dignity of poverty" stance. I see no valid argument for it.
Accidental Farmer
on Wed, 12/01/2010 - 12:46
#768563
I have a mini farm in Central America, and our neighbors are like the people you mentioned, only they do have a few nickles to rub together. They're real people. People who care about their families, and really enjoy their lives. It's sad how much importance people put on material goods in the US, and the people in that video should be pitied.
I guarantee if you moved them to one of the first world countries they would be acting the same way in a year or two.
Environment counts for a substantial part of how your neighbors are acting.
Mother Culture., Siren Singer
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2010/06/14/70/
ORI
"Environment counts for a substantial part of how your neighbors are acting."
Thus the debate at the start of this country over whether we should be a agrarian society or an industrial/urban one. Of course, the founders ultimately have no control of the future in any case.
People need things, people want things..
People think they need things when they only want them. The distinction between needs and wants is about to become crystal clear.
So go buy some gold bullion and stock up your fallout shelter.
Already done, thank you.
Think of me when you catch yourself watching Youtube clips of food on your new laptop.
It's your fantasy, go ahead and imagine me watching whatever Youtube clips you like.
Well, thank you. It's not often I get an invitation like that these days. After all, I have needs too.
The thread was about the end result of a system devoted to materialism.
At this point in the posting sequence, you are the first and only poster to bring up gold.
Please stay on topic.
Quite right. Sorry.
Mind you, "devoted to materialism." Now there's an ironic turn of phrase.
Seriously? Did you watch the video? Scroll over to 1 min 2 sec.
Um, pretty sure chico was the one to bring up bullion, and derailed us in the first place
The poor in America are not poor.
Some stats:
http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2004/01/understanding-poverty-i...
Too many Americans are poor in character. Economics has little to do with it. We have turned the Government and materialism into God. It is time to get back to what is real, and I suspect it is too late for us to choose how we go about that...
Hugh,
I agree with you 95%,except for "WE have turned to the Gvt,and materialism into GOD."
The Gv't USURPED that from the Church,and thats when what you said happened.
When you have 4th/5th Generation Welfare families, its a bitch to break that cycle.
The Gvt thru its welfare programs have destroyed the American family to a huge degree.When you run off Fathers, or no check,it turned into a visious cycle.
1968 was the year it started.
I noticed many of the stampeding poor souls were rather well fed.
+1
CC,
That is usually a sign of a POOR diet.
Wrong food groups, inexpensive foods, and from birth.
I was mulling that over Thanksgiving, what is good for us that was inexpensive(fresh vegetables/fruits, etc) when I was a kid, is now the MOST expensive items in the Markets.(small family farms are all but history.)
What was the most expensive (Junk food), is now the least expensive.(and the worst for your health and weight).
Perhaps if you're 'poor' you shouldn't be spending money on consumer electronics, no matter how much the savings? If a 60" TV is 2000, but I call off work to spend 12 hours sleeping in front of Best Buy to be among the first admitted and I buy it for 1500, how much money have I saved?
The idiots stampeding like cattle, and you Chito, would say 500. In reality it would be a loss of (One day's Pay+1500)=The Cost of Stupid.
And dictionaries are very cheap, some are online; write out ten times the definitions for wants and needs, then see if they are the same.
Complete Bull-s**t. I live overseas in a very poor area (way poorer than the poorest in the U.S.) and have never seen anything close to such appalling behavior. That's because these folks still have their dignity. For them it's not about stuff, it's about relationships, family, friends, experiences. They live far richer and more rewarding lives than the broken souls in this video -- shit they live richer lives than most Americans regardless of income.
Deeply discounted merchandise like the guy walking out of Wal Mart with 4 HDTV's? Most of these people are just willy nilly grabbing at shit... They don't even know what they're grabbing!! That's the problem... Americans don't need any of this crap. We don't need the Franken-food we stuff our faces with at McDonald's... We don't need the suburban McMansions... We don't need the trinkets, knick-knacks and electronic ephemera relentlessy pushed at us by Wal-Mart and Target -- modern day equivalents of the E. India Trading Company monopoly by the way.
This montage is the perfect metaphor for the U.S., the Fed, the government, our politicians, our citizens, everyone... Bloated hogs sallying up to the slop trough to get fattened for the slaughter.
It makes me sick to my stomach to watch this carnage because it's so unnecessary... It's all a consequence of a completely corrupt debt-based fiat monetary system. I'll bet if you polled these dough-balls stampeding into Wal-Mart, 90% of them would be using their BoA, Wells Fargo, etc. credit cards -- the ones with the usurious 25% interest rates -- to purchase this junk. By first flowers in spring, the majority of this crap will be sitting curbside for the landfill and they'll still be paying it off.
And after their Black Friday shopping experience, what do you bet they set down to a double pattie Franken-burger with all the fixin's, large fries broiled in lard and a bucket of ice-cold, bubbly high fructose corn syrup.
They'll go home satiated and sleepy and dose up on the Soma or some of the many other wondrous Huxley-like Pharma drugs for incontinence, depression, erectile dysfunction, gas, acid reflux, ADD...
On Monday, most will end up waddling right back into the Wal-Mart or Costco to punch the clock as dead end service employees, greeters ("Hi, Welcome to Costco... I love you) , burger slingers at the Burger Doodle, or cashiers at the roadside "Gas 'N Go" or "Buy 'N Eat."
All for the benefit of the vampire squids on Wall Street. They issue the credit to the consumers... They create loans out of NOTHING... They finance the E. India Trading Companies.
One final point about the dignity we've lost... When women start stealing store merchandise and hiding it in the rolls of their body fat -- as these two lovely ladies apparently did -- is there really anything left to be hopeful about?
http://www.kfor.com/kfor-news-fat-roll-shoplifters-story,0,3781914.story
Cleve,
Yes sir, your correct.
Why?, when you are not used to "THINGS", you do not miss them.
The IDIOT BOX programs our population, and has for ever.
Face it, we are programmed from birth here.
Del
It's not like any of that crap was actually discounted. Those aren't clearance prices. I was in Kohl's looking at some shoes the weekend before Thanksgiving and all the prices were set at full retail. Every pair of dress shoes was $70. I went back the following Saturday and all of those shoes were set closer to market price, ~$50, some as low as $40. Those are not discounts. It is propaganda used to sell goods. "Look what a great deal you are getting!"
I see the same thing in the grocery store. Lay's potato chips are often 2 for 1, but the "retail" price on the bag is $3.99. Who the fuck pays $4 for a bag of potato chips? Only the idiots they snare on the off-weeks when the 2 for 1 deal isn't on, that's who.
It's a big, stupid game that was designed by crooks with MBAs.
Interesting you bring that up. I was in NYC for the first time (live in London) and happened to be there for this Black Friday debacle.
Observations of a foreigner are as follows:
In downtown Manhattan (5th Ave etc) there were hordes of people but all with pretzels or hotdogs in their hands. There were startlingly few shopping bags which implies that sales were tough. We did some Christmas shopping on the Upper West side hoping that the stores there would be less busy than down town in the morning and found them empty. My fiancee found victoria secret on Broadway has more staff than customers. We went in to Kenneth Cole and despite having 30% off everything (no exceptions) on their sign we actually noticed that the products in the store had been marked up to be discounted. A jacket that we bought for 30% off $249 we took back the following day because the original label said $149.
The store clerk said "oh sorry, the price went up so we mustn't have updated the label". That is complete horseshit. As a manufacturer of products for retailers I know that they work on first margin and then slowly discount through the season till they have to give it away normally seeing their over all first margin close to halved by season end.
I cannot believe people are this stupid as to accept this kind of behaviour. Interestingly enough this is probably why most intelligent NYers were wandering around with a pretzel or enjoying their Thanksgiving leftovers at home.
There are always scenes of cretins crawling over each other to get to a "deal" however these are the bottom feeders in society and these people are why the middle classes pay their taxes for a police force and military that will protect them.
I think calls that this marauding pack of sea calves are going to be burning things down in the future is a bit far fetched and fanciful. This presumes a motivation that would force them to physical activity, and looting and pillaging last I looked if probably a gym class available from the TaiBo guy. None of these fat fuckers are interested in that shit.
Seriously though this video is a bit over the top. Those who want to know will know and those who don't, WONT! You can never change that and by the time the automatons realize they are fucked they already will be. Making videos with voice over from the guys who sells the Ab Swing just detracts from the decent information out there. Sure parts of society are fucked but they always have been and will be. That is part of democracy, you know the freedom part! They chose to forego their freedom for shit material possessions.
They made the choice, the banks just cater to their stupidity. Darwinism will solve this issue.
On that gold comment, i would only add that if we get to a collapse situation the last thing i want is some heavy yellow WORTHLESS "store of value". I assume there will be more value in copper, lead and brass = bullets.... canned food, medicine, water, tools, etc....
Yeah, like Jamie Dimon is the least-hated banker. I heard he's going to be the sexiest bitch on the cell block...don't pick up the soap, babe;)
With videos like this that are reinforcing what I see in our numbed down society, I can almost understand why the elite are looking to depopulate the earth. I don't agree with mass extinction of the serfs, as I am one of them, but this type of willfully ignorant behavior makes me want to find a cabin in the woods.
All I can say is that I tried my damndest to alert EVERYONE I encountered about the theft of the banks. Their glazed over eyes and propensity to dismiss the musings of a libertarian lead me to believe that only further pain will be the catalyst needed to wake everyone for their catharsis.
go look at the NYT, you'll want to throw up.
I read that this morning and my belgium waffle with agave syrup had to be eaten again. If anyone buys the drivel sputtering out of that rag, they deserve to be run over by a hoard of toaster seeking shoppers at Target on Black Friday eve.
My snark-o-meter is on the fritz today . . . but I'm detecting some seriousness in your comment. Due to that I'd like to offer you a suggestion to research agave syrup and decide if you still want to use it. Just another food fraud, IMHO . . . stick to maple.
he got you on that one Doc. agave syrup is not good for you...research it.
o.k., after seeing at least 3 comments to go look at the front page of the NYTIMES, I did. I opened up the link & gasped when I saw the photo of JAMIE DIMON & the big headline. I GASPED .......... looks like they are setting him up to be the next SECRETARY of the TREASURY !! ........... this is their standard operating procedure.
WHOLLY *FUCKING* SHIT!
What was I supposed to see that is spectacular? Looks like the same old tripe to me.
They claim that Dimon is the *LEAST* hated banker in the US.
He's the worst of the lot! Where the hell are these guys getting their information?
The serfs didn't behave quite this way 10 years ago. We must remember, all that deregulation that has occurred in the past 20 years was taking away all the old rules the elites wrote, to make sure other elites didn't turn the serfs into an angry mob.
there are going to be angry mobs...there's no way around that. i thank god i no longer live in the city.
Once they have plundered the city, they'll come to the country side. Hope you're living in a log cabin way up high and out of reach.
George,
All, these folks will be the least of your problems if the SHTF.
The same gang in D.C. is who you need to be prepared for.They have had plans in place for YEARS for us.
Roving gangs, will not be the ones coming to Take You away, to a (so called) safer place, whether you want to go or not.
There are PDD's /EO's already on the books to separate you from your families, and make you work where you do not want to work.
And you have no say, stocked up with all the essentials?,they will seize those, hoarding rules.
So, unless you can get OUT of dodge, and be ready there, your toast.
I'm afraid I totally agree with you. It's a sad and scary future we have to look forward to.
Competition, not decadent society.
Mine was cheaper, you lose!
They buy computers in France.
We must remember, all that deregulation that has occurred in the past 20 years was taking away all the old rules...
Yes, because big government isn't the problem it's the only solution. Thank God for Hope and Change.
Here is some pictorial levity, good enough that it is able to demonstrate the above even at level of understanding and attention span our society has 'evolved' to:
Bread & Circus
http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=3735
http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=3736
TBTF Banks
http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2959
http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2952
These are great CD. I'd laugh but they are true.
The third one down is fucking hilarious.
++
printing it up for the lunchroom
Yup, that's exactly where I had it for about a year (the bank robot). Surprisingly/saddeningly few comments or questions about it, though... I recommend a browse through the archive, the artist (Tatsuya Ishida) seems like he would be right at home here on ZH.
MsC... Where were you the other day when I needed you? I totally went off on a guy. Hoped you'd show up to pull me off'n him...
Hmmm... Technically, the third and seventh rules would apply:
3rd RULE: If someone says "stop" or goes limp, taps out the fight is over.
Did you break the third rule?
7th RULE: Fights will go on as long as they have to.
Or was it the case it had to go on as long as it did?
:-D
Eventually, I just got tired of beating up a retarded third-grader...
'Pain,' that will matter is simple and easy to define:
1--No gasoline at any price and/or rationed; e.g. -- 10gallon/week limit @ $10/gal.
2--Fraud excused, foreclosures allowed to proceed and speed up; tent cities here we come
3--Dollar not accepted for Asian imports, including Japanese cars and Chinese games, gadgets, gizmos of all sorts, including computers
4--Food rationing
When items 1-4 occur, people will still not resist; rather they will merely hunker down and wait to be told what to do.
Americans understand they have lived an unsustainable lifestyle. They are content to play it out as long as it lasts, come what may, and then go on to the next thing.
People actually are not stupid, ignorant or uncaring. Being able to get China to make the stuff we want at high quality and low price is NOT a bad deal on a certain level.
All globalization cost us was our jobs.
People have come to recognize it's not possible to successfully confront the TPTB on a planned basis, they have too many weapons and too many ways to pacify us, i.e., teevee.
Any confrontation will have to be spontaneous, catharctic and chaotic, resulting from an anonymous butterfly doing something strange somewhere.
Any questions?
Any questions?
Who put the ram in the ram-alama-ding-dong?
What color would a smurf turn if you choked it?
We're going to need two Smurfs. One to choke an one as a control...
There is always a good laugh to be had on ZH. E ven if I have to watch a video that truly sickens my soul..++RR
How many unicorn skittles does it take to choke said smurf?
THANKS A LOT!!
Now I won't be able to sleep tonight figureing that one out!
'All globalization cost us was our jobs' ... and societal self-respect, and social responsibility, and political freedom, and sense of some purpose in life beyond mindless consumerism, and...
The statement "...All globalization cost5 us was our jobs..." did invite the response you gave. Let's examine it a little further:
'... and societal self-respect...,'
I don't think it cost us our self-respect. Losing our jobs to lower cost suppliers was inevitable. The USA was to low-cost supplier in the 1800s-1900s. US manufacturing was about high quantity and low cost. E.g., we made Timexes not Rolexes. Chevys, not Beamers.
'and social responsibility,'
Can you say more about that? In the absence of a political framework that includes anything other than 2 corporate-capitalist political parties, there was insufficient opposition to globalization. US unions were never very strong, notwithstanding their bogeyman label. Corporate managements instill a 'go along - get along' mentality such that corporate managers don't think much, they just act. Because there is no political diversity in the US, there simply is no room for meaningful debate. Our willingness to limit our political parameters to two corporate-capitalist parties is socially irresponsible but I doubt that is what you meant.
'and political freedom,'
McCarthyism succeeded in taking that away from us way back in the fitties.
'and sense of some purpose in life beyond mindless consumerism,'
Americans are easily deluded, but that seems to be an intentional choice or ingrained social more. Individuals may opt out, of course, but the social norms dictate that we pursue a lifestyle based on illusion.
' and...'
So...
Four words: All things must pass.
"Being able to get China to make the stuff we want at high quality and low price is NOT a bad deal on a certain level. Any questions?"
Yes. Can you please fuck off?
Banana
China- high quality and low price. That, my friend is an oxymoron.
And let's not have hall sex.
No it isn't. The word "China" itself has long been associated with quality manufacturing. As in Fine you-know-what that eat with, on or from.
I cannot say for certain, but an unwillingness to acknowledge that China produces high quality goods may simply be a form of xenophobia. Likewise, the inability to recognize that US manufacturing was always about high quanity, low cost and low quality may also be a form of xenophobia.
The statement "cheap American goods" may not sound good to our ears, but, what was a Timex?
You, sir, are an apologist for the Chicom Fascists.
The VAST MAJORITY of goods produced in China have a life span that rarely exceeds one year and often doesn't survive taking it out of the box.
Try finding something made to ASTM, SAE, or ASA standards.
Much of what comes over is downright dangerous. The drywall, the lead in toys, and faulty tires is but the tip of the Iceberg.
So, go toot your horn somewhere else. The first defence of the indefensible is to pull the race card.
The "consumer" mob (in the video) is the best clue of where this country is going, so long as you and your ilk continue to propagate the Chicom message.
China is no friend of the U.S. and I don't know how many times they can make their North Korean puppet dance, before it gets tiresome. It is simply to divert American (and European eyes) away from the main problem- Chinese one-way trade.
<<The word "China" itself has long been associated with quality manufacturing.>>
This is a joke, right?
<<The word "China" itself has long been associated with quality manufacturing.>>
This is a joke, right?
Well all Apples products are made in China.
jplotinus,
WTF are you talking about, high quality?
China has some of the lowest quality standards in the industrialized world (I use that term loosely here). State mandated quality programs ripped from outdated western quality standards. Would you drive/ride/fly a Chinese good if your life depended on the quality of near slave labor? Do you think they have experienced a Ford Pinto or a Morton Thiokol o-ring failure yet? Quality is not something you can just have, it comes from experience and failure, sometimes catastrophic.
I'm not xenophobic, I work with Chinese daily, the submissive mentality does little for individual innovation and personal quality control. After all they are taught to recognize the state rather than themselves, so accountability is not viewed as personal. Factory conditions forcing people to work under duress and claiming they are even capable of doing a good job is also up for debate.
The end of the money changing (cheap imported products for cheap fiat paper) by American corperations is coming to an end.... and I can't fucking wait.
Disclosure: I junked your ass. Merry Christmas.
Any questions?
Sure, but first, my reaction to the video. It was a bit over the top. All Americans don't act that way, only the slowest, dumbest, fattest and most ignorant. Unfortunately, their numbers are growing and their progeny will become more cheap, slave labor and credit card users for the rich to fondle and manipulate. That is the elitist game. It's what they do. So, yeah, there are a lot of fat, ignorant slobs out there who have lost nearly any dignity they might have had.
My question is this: What should those of us who believe ourselves to be above that level of wantonness and ignorance do about it? Should we counsel those who are too hypnotized by materialism, television and welfare statism to make better of themselves, to deny materialism and embrace a more wholesome existence?
I'll answer that one myself: Of course we should.
Now comes another antecedent question. After we've counseled our downtrodden brothers and sistahs and they go about their usual wanton ways as though they've heard nothing we've said, suppose one of them comes to us in their miserable way and tries to sell us a laptop that they bought for $198, for $20, for drugs, or food, or gas, or whatever moronic desire they might have at that time. What should we do then?
I'll answer that, too, for myself. I'm sure others might see this differently. My answer, I'd offer them $10, maybe $5. If they're too stupid to see, let them be blind. If you or I don't separate them from their possessions for less than market value, who will? Of course, the elitists, gladly, mind you.
I say it is the duty of all Americans to buy for less than market value and sell for as much as possible, even going so far as to sell to elitists at inflated prices. It is up to the entrepreneurial among us to seize the opportunity the elitists have created for those of us wise enough to make money to do so. I say it is easy if the system plans to endlessly create more money through debt. We should all be pawn-brokers, sharks and sharp deal-makers, for if we are not, surely it will be ourselves at the short end of the next deal and the one after that and so on, until we are slaves ourselves.
Stand up and take from the poor. They have been given our wealth by the rich. Take from the rich, too, if you can. If the economy is going to burgeon upon a sea of debt, then we must open our eyes and aour hands to take what is rightfully ours. we must fortify our own foundations, and to hell from whence it comes, as long as we make it OURS.
Now, if you have any questions, ask somebody else. I've already told you my plan. Acquire.
Maybe I have sociopath tendencies, but I feel very little pity for those who fail to educate themselves or have even a smidgen of doubt about their betters. It's a tragedy, but you can't have a holocaust without willing victims who will believe they are being relocated for their own safety.
The Chinese? Surely you jest - have you ever been to and/or seen one of their factories? They are slaves working - literally - under the gun.
No, the people who are laughing their asses off are the very social Darwinists mentioned in this video. They are the ultimate apex predators who pulled off the heist of humanity. To be honest, at a certain level, there should be some admiration at their sheer audacity, skill & execution.
In retrospect, it was pretty easy - the absolute core essential was media control. All the rest, including co-opting the MIC, corrupting the People's representatives, enabling legislation geared towards social dependency, etc, were all secondary objectives.
So how does one fight the evil forces that have to completely enslaved us? Well, I've got bad news for you - you can't. Very much like the War of the Worlds, there is only one possible way out, in that our only hope for salvation is a flaw in their own internal operating model.
That flaw is per capita net energy consumption aka 'economic growth'. No growth, no Ponzi. It really is this simple, which is why even though ZH is a great read, it's pretty much a waste of time.
Either humanity figures out some kind of new economic driver, in which case the EE not only survives, but further increases its deadly embrace, or we don't, and this mofu comes crashing down.
So which outcome do you prefer? The lies of the current dis-reality, or the very, very real existence of tribal allegiances, brutal warlords & civil war?
"It really is this simple, which is why even though ZH is a great read, it's pretty much a waste of time."
Well then, you should enjoy this type of reading:
http://www.tinytechindia.com/gandhiji5.html
Ghandi was a moralist. He believed there was some intrinsic value to the human experience. I disagree - and so too do the social Darwinists.
We are hairless apes - nothing more, nothing less. We are subject to the self-same impulses genetically favored over millions of years of evolution. Over time, these survival instincts have been codified into prohibitions & laws to allow the masters to manipulate them to their own selfish desires.
Lust? Stealing? Greed? Envy? Lust - all successful mating strategies, regardless of species, entail quantity. Once restricted, who benefits from controlling prostitution, delivering porn or just providing simple titillating 'entertainment'? Stealing, greed & envy - a chimp wouldn't survive a week without deploying skills geared towards this behavior. Once repressed, who benefits from delivering the same sense of satisfaction of 'something for nothing' to the idiot sheep?
Complaining and/or moralizing results in the same outcome - you lose. So the question to anyone who plays to win is: (a) is it possible to win; and (b) how do you win? There is only one possible way to win - the current model fails. So that brings up (b), which I think many people here understand on a fundamental basis.
With the partition of India, as Muslims and Hindus slaughtered each other, Tribilism ruled.
Not too much different from where we are headed.
Very true Kayman. And ironically one of the central figures in the midst of that drama was Gandhi, knowing full well the consequences of partition.
Gandhi was nothing but an amoral politician. His high moral standards included Sleeping naked with his two underage nieces and also with his own nephews young wife, claiming that these were his trial by fire to prove his chastity.
Gandhi was a british mole, barrister from london, practiced in apartheid south africa, such a perfect set-up.
And when his time was up, he was popped off.
As far as Gandhi is concerned, we've all been victims of propaganda, much like about Mandela and King, all Gandhi acolytes.
I know of what I'm speaking.
ORI
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2010/12/01/of-leaking-wikis-and-true-lies/
"Gandhi was nothing but an amoral politician. His high moral standards included Sleeping naked with his two underage nieces and also with his own nephews young wife, claiming that these were his trial by fire to prove his chastity."
This is definitely new to me.
So, Ghandiji belongs in the same sack as MLK. Another one bites the dust.
Sorry to bust that bubble Green Leader.
Think about it though, he oversaw the handover (hahhahhaaaa!!!!, never happened) of India to it's people from the British.
Why would they lose their crown jewel? They did not and one of their "owned" helped them do it.
Anyone who was lionized in the last century was a probably a sham.
The list is long, Albert Einstein, plagiarist extraoridnaire , topping the list.
ORI
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2010/06/14/70/
Just out of curiosity who is on your good list?
More weight to the case of staying on course. That's all...
At least Einstein was honest about it: "the secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." However, very little thought is original. Much of thinking is just hubris. Just because it's the first time you're catching on to an idea doesn't mean the idea hasn't been thought of before. The white man is especially good at that - see the Pyramids, the Antikythera mechanism, etc., etc., etc. or like we like to say around here "Rinse. Wash. Repeat." The older I get, the more I know that I don't know shit. An education is a state of mind, not some piece of paper you put up in your office and forget all about once you're done. I'll be done learning when I'm sharing real estate with worms. Until then, I'll keep my eyes firmly on the magician's OTHER hand...
So he was a British mole and he reduced the control of the British government and corporations sorry that doesn't add up. Then they killed him because he outlived his usefullness, why wouldn't they keep him in a position of power if he was their mole? He slept with his neices so everything he did was a sham? JFK was a known womanizer so I guess he was a sham, and MLK had his affairs too so I guess he falls in the same catagory. Even though I have a weakness to being seduced or cheating on my spouse doesn't equate to not believing in my ideology or reducing the passion of my beliefs. Yes the British did continue to exploit India but to a much smaller degree and people recieved better treatment. Their slavery was reduced by a great degree.
Rick64, I was born and live here. I know of what I am speaking. Your response is that of a sophist, not a thinker.
Please re-read what I've said, and then do some research.
The use him/kill-him ploy is as old as political machination is, if you get my drift.
If you have a really cogent response and one that speaks from actualy, on-ground experience, I suggest you keep your opinion and your peace and we'll agree to disagree.
ORI
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com
A sophist, wow I have never been called that. I re-read what you wrote and can't find any fact to back up what you're saying. I don't have any on ground experience in India, but I can research (couldn't find anything at the link you posted). Could you give some links or a hint on where to look? As far as a cogent response I would expect you to abide by that also, and not the "I know of what I am speaking" reply. I do however accept that you should know more than I do with your on the ground experience. I have one question for you, as you know Ghandi was jailed both in Africa and India (2yrs. I think) how would this fit in to him being a mole. Was he that dedicated to being a mole?
Very true Kayman. And ironically one of the central figures in the midst of that drama was Gandhi, knowing full well the consequences of partition.
Gandhi was nothing but an amoral politician. His high moral standards included Sleeping naked with his two underage nieces and also with his own nephews young wife, claiming that these were his trial by fire to prove his chastity.
Gandhi was a british mole, barrister from london, practiced in apartheid south africa, such a perfect set-up.
And when his time was up, he was popped off.
As far as Gandhi is concerned, we've all been victims of propaganda, much like about Mandela and King, all Gandhi acolytes.
I know of what I'm speaking.
ORI
So he was a horny sod!!!
How come the hairy apes don't have to pay taxes?
You want them to mail in 26% of a banana to the IRS?
Neither does the IRS.
I actually do. And its not 26% "of a banana" but more like
40-something% of every single banana.
And since the chimps are not going to (not as dumb as
their heairless cousins, you know), I want to see the
(t)ax-man try to get theirs...
I love orthodoxy too, B9K9.
paragraph 5 : "no growth, no Ponzi" WOW...guess we've got it made, then? cause I sure don't see any "growth" on horizon
I do not jest and "stop calling me Shirley." A serious man passed away by the name of Leslie Nielson. I'm gonna miss him...
The Catholic Church didn't collapse as a result of energy. It *is* possible to break skynet.
I saw it too. And it boggles the mind just how sheeplized our society has become. Woah be it when TSHTF.....
"that's a roger, Roger. What's your vector, Victor? That's an over, Under. Who? What? Say again?" Best role ever for Kareem Abdul Jabbar...playing...Kareem Abdul Jabbar in disguise of course....
To see the future, one must only look at the recent past. This puts "Black Friday" to shame:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN2DmtIm6Qo
Who is selling $10 toasters??? I gotta get me a new toaster for 10 bucks, hell yeah.
scratch
The toaster is made out of cardboard, it is painted silver (lead paint, of course), the electrical cord is 2 guages too small, and it works one time only and burns the toast.
Oh yeah, and it is made in China, Sucker.
humm ok, do they do them in blue?