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A Majority Of States Are Now Insolvent: Quantifying The Disastrous Unemployment Situation

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Update: the Friday, January 29 report was released and our expectations were low: total January Unemployment Insurance Outflows were $14.4 billion, essentially right on top of the December number.

Zero Hedge recently highlighted the ever increasing Federal outlays on unemployment insurance, leading to questions on whether the true unemployment rate, as indicated by actual cash outlays, may be materially higher than indicated in increasingly dubious governmental reports. One proposed alternative has been that the Federal government is directly subsidizing standalone states' depleted unemployment insurance trust funds. Using data provided by ProPublica we have been able to confirm that indeed standalone states are for the most part now bankrupt and have no reserves left in their coffers when it comes to funding ever increasing insurance benefits. As ProPublica indicates, there are now 26 states which have depleted their trust funds, among these are the usual suspects including California, Michigan, New York, Pennsylvania and Ohio, which now rely exclusively on borrowings from the Federal government to prevent the cessation of insurance payments to recently unemployed workers. Currently all states collectively posses $10.7 billion in trust fund assets(with the bulk held by less impacted states such as Washington ($2.6 billion), Louisiana ($1.1 billion) and Oregon ($1.1 billion). On the other hand, 26 states currently rely exclusively on the Federal Government, and have borrowed a combined $30 billion through December to fund payments. ProPublica estimates that another 8 states will be insolvent within 6 months, as their trust funds also approach 0.

The chart below demonstrates the amount of borrowing per state, as well as trust fund holdings.

Another way of visualizing the damage can be seen on the following chart which highlights

The most bankrupt states are California, with $6.8 billion in borrowings, Michigan ($3.4 billion), New York ($2.4 billion), Pennsylvania ($2.2 billion) and Ohio ($1.9 billion).

A chart demonstrating the collapse in California's trust fund, coupled with the relentless increase in the state's unemployment rate, together with Benefits paid out and actual Revenue gained (if any). Note that the April/May tax revenue collection spike, unlike in prior periods, did nothing to boost the trust fund in 2009.

So what is happening on the Federal side of the ledger? Recall that in December the government spent $14.65 billion in Unemployment Insurance Benefits, which was a 24% jump from the $11.8 billion in November. How is January shaping up? Through January 28th, the Federal Government had spent a total of $13.85 billion for this outlay. Once we get the Friday additional data, we will update our previous chart" we expect the final number to be about $14.1 billion, roughly in line with the December total. 

At this point there is no question that the vast majority of the hardest hit states now subsist exclusively due to the generosity of the Federal Government, which in turn, courtesy of a 50%+ indirect take down of each and every Treasury auction (now that QE is over), is at the full mercy of foreign investors, yet as we pointed out, their custody holdings at the Fed have started declining. If the government is unable to finance its profligate ways, and today's budget announcement by Obama is just the icing on the cake, look for states to gradually reign in unemployment checks whether they like it or not, which would likely lead to some very interesting demonstrations of the broader population's lack of solidarity with Mr. Blankfein's $100 million, or whatever it may end up being, bonus number. Our advice to California readers who believe they are owed a refund: file your taxes ASAP - the market for IOUs still has to be properly securitized by JP Morgan.

 


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Mon, 02/01/2010 - 14:38 | Link to Comment Gold...Bitches
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Its Greece all over the place.

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 15:17 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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lets smash some White House dinner plates

Tue, 02/02/2010 - 07:49 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 02/01/2010 - 15:39 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 02/01/2010 - 16:46 | Link to Comment MarketTruth
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The % of Greece to the Euro currency is SMALL BEANS as compared to the % the Republik of Kalifornia is to the USA's dollar currency. Then add in other States PLUS their future retirement fund obligations...

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 14:40 | Link to Comment master_of_puppets
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so i should get unemployed real quick before i miss out???

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 15:05 | Link to Comment Mad Max
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Tempting, isn't it.

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 18:16 | Link to Comment Yophat
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Unless Congress extends it again (entirely possible)...the cut off for the Fed side of the unemployment funding (not state loans) will end July 31, 2010.

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 14:44 | Link to Comment CoopDeluxe
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Where is Project Mayhem???

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 14:54 | Link to Comment Internet Tough Guy
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Maybe the killer ukrainian super-flu got him.

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 16:19 | Link to Comment ShankyS
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+1 LMAO

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 19:40 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 02/01/2010 - 21:12 | Link to Comment Lou629
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I think it was something more along the lines of this:

The black helicopters found his bunker and deliberately released the Ukrainian killer flu bug on him, while the WHO and MSM remain criminally silent in their conspiracy to not report it.

Tue, 02/02/2010 - 11:18 | Link to Comment WaterWings
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OH LOOK! Lou is back!!

Hi, Lou!!

Seemed like the last time I saw you it was the disinformation you were spreading!

You can't seem to post something without mentioning tin foil or black helicopters. Why dontcha' come up with something original for once!! Or get the Fuck outta here.

Tue, 02/02/2010 - 11:30 | Link to Comment Lou629
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WW

Good to be back, and you're still an asshole i see, but i missed you while i was on vacation.  BTW, when you become a forum administrator, then you can tell me what to do.  Go fuck yourself otherwise. 

As for disinformation, you're the one defending the likes of PM, so you are hereby awarded the Goebbels prize for truth in journalism. 

Wed, 02/03/2010 - 12:38 | Link to Comment WaterWings
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+1

My avatar is a disclaimer. But avoid my counsel and pay the price. At least I don't repeat myself every other post.

Wed, 02/03/2010 - 19:46 | Link to Comment Lou629
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Well howbout'dat?  You've gotten to a point where now you think it's only every other post.  Better be careful there W2, next thing you know, you'll be finding yourself agreeing with me on something or other...lol...

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 14:45 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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Uh. Oklahoma has not had much unemployment yet tax revenue is down so badly that they fussed for weeks about how to save 10 million lousy little dollars to keep from firing several police and fire department people. They could probably actually let about 20 to 30 useless cops go though. So even if unemployment shows gray on these states they got other problems.

I saw a funny news clip where one city was going to spend several million dollars to advertise the need to raise taxes because they didn't have enough money.

Michigan is just a kind of fucked that has never been dealt with by anyone outside of a war zone where you were losing badly.

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 14:59 | Link to Comment WaterWings
Tue, 02/02/2010 - 00:31 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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Well watched the news tonight. 600 million dollar rainy day fund. 555million of it going goodbye next year. Hoping that things pick up and those numbers won't be so dire but people will re-entrench harder and make that fund go poof.

Great depression II Quit Harder. When your angels come to take you back home. Tell them to get lost. The only way to beat relentless stupidity is through relentless quitting. The one in control remains in control. Till they control nothing.

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 23:23 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 02/03/2010 - 07:51 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 02/01/2010 - 14:46 | Link to Comment Stranger
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What difference does it make? It all goes on the Federal Government's infinite credit card.

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 14:51 | Link to Comment Internet Tough Guy
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Until the federal credit line gets closed by China. And they aren't happy about the Taiwan development.

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 15:06 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 02/01/2010 - 16:10 | Link to Comment Stranger
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The Federal credit line is the Federal Reserve Bank. Even if the Chinese close their account, the Fed will keep extending credit.

That is how it has worked in every other country.

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 18:14 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 02/02/2010 - 11:12 | Link to Comment WaterWings
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Haiti has a huge potential for oil. Possibly bigger then Venny with all that unexplored territory with three tec plates constantly shifting underneath.

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 15:04 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 02/02/2010 - 00:59 | Link to Comment harveywalbinger
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The Chinese hate it, but our organized crime racket is more powerful than their organized crime racket.  We've got world reserve currency status.  As long as that's the case, we control the game.  We win.  That's the way it is.  Until it's not, then we're fucked.  

I say "we" as if to say we peasants get to participate in the looting.  If only it were so...  All the peasants can look forward to participating in is getting bent over...  

I'm pretty sure that's how the world works.

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 15:28 | Link to Comment Steak
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Were that the credit card actually had an infinite limit...

Off topic but i couldn't resist given your namesake:

<As if that blind rage had washed me clean, rid me of hope; for the first time, in that night alive with signs and stars, I opened myself to the gentle indifference of the world. Finding it so much like myself — so like a brother, really — I felt that I had been happy and that I was happy again. For everything to be consummated, for me to feel less alone, I had only to wish that there be a large crowd of spectators the day of my execution and that they greet me with cries of hatred.>

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 20:09 | Link to Comment Dantzler
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R.I.P. Albert

Sarkozy should leave him be.

Tue, 02/02/2010 - 01:38 | Link to Comment tom a taxpayer
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Stranger - Great point.

Uncle Sap - "Another round for all the states. Sure boys, its on me. Hey, Maestro, keep playing the music. I want to hear "Wait til the sun shines Nellie". Louder! Louder!" 

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 14:48 | Link to Comment Trifecta Man
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Hey mister, could you stake a fellow American to a meal?

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 14:52 | Link to Comment Whizbang
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It's amazing to me that you can fund 20% of the country's unemployment for less than 5% of tarp outlays. What the f*ck?

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 14:52 | Link to Comment Internet Tough Guy
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Great post. Clear, cutting, and concise.

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 14:52 | Link to Comment SDRII
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look at transfer p[ayments in the most recent "personal Income" numbers - up $14B m.m

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 14:54 | Link to Comment Hammer59
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Where is Project Mayhem? I checked his web-site, and he has'nt made a posting for over a month. Miss his insight.

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 15:20 | Link to Comment John Self
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Or at least his splashy pictures that were vaguely suggestive of some insight.

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 15:23 | Link to Comment JR
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So do I miss his insight, his cut to the core of political and economic nonsense.  This Week in Mayhem was one of the most powerful, courageous layouts of basic truths and clear thinking that we had going for us.  Every episode was a brilliant performance!

God help us if Project Mayhem has put aside his keyboard.

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 15:40 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 02/02/2010 - 10:57 | Link to Comment Kissy Ass
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He got to Level 3 ID'ing The Reston 6. You have to be a ghost when you get to that level or you don't survive.

(HAARP, boiling water in large underground aquifers, earthquakes for sale).

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 15:05 | Link to Comment JR
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The famous New Deal opponent Albert Jay Nock wrote that the power of the State increases because of three "principal indexes”:

 

  1. Centralization.  “Practically all of the sovereign rights and powers of the smaller political units…have been absorbed by the federal unit.”
  2.  Extension of bureaucracy.  “The pressure of centralization has tended powerfully to convert every political aspirant in the smaller units into a venal and complaisant agent of the federal bureaucracy.”
  3. Erection of poverty and mendicancy into a permanent political asset.  “All that was needed to organize these unfortunates into an invaluable political property was to declare the doctrine that the State owes all its citizens a living; and this was accordingly done.  It immediately precipitated an enormous mass of subsidized voting-power, an enormous resource for strengthening the State at the expense of society.
Mon, 02/01/2010 - 23:26 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 02/01/2010 - 15:07 | Link to Comment NRGTDR
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Maybe this info will accelerate the "Flight to Safety" to the security of the greenback bunker. LOL...."Flight to Safety"....

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 15:09 | Link to Comment bugs_
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An additional thought to those that have not yet
been layed off (or who got laid off and took a
lower paying job and haven't been laid off from
that yet):

Don't factor the availability of unemployment
into your plans.  The "states" will have to
"reign in" the outlays.  Now that the first
"10%" have received their extended-extended
benefits and depleted the funds, upcoming
first time filers may not be able to obtain
their entitled relief from the UI ponzi.

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 15:41 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 02/01/2010 - 15:14 | Link to Comment crzyhun
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Yah, but taxes are going up...that should help!

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 15:19 | Link to Comment ReallySparky
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My business laid off some people last year, I see the unemployment benefit statements come in and my heart just cringes.  I knew these people and what their lifestyles were like.  Heard the stories of their kids, yadda, yadda. As a business owner, I always hated paying the taxes, and felt ripped off when I fired some lazy or dishonest SOB, and they got benefits.  Now when I see those statements, I am secretly glad that I paid those taxes.  It hurts that I can't provide employment for these "good" workers because of the economy.  I cringe because I know that based upon the benefits that they are recieving, they must be close to starving.  Sad, really sad.

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 15:21 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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The most bankrupt states are California, with $6.8 billion in borrowings, Michigan ($3.4 billion), New York ($2.4 billion), Pennsylvania ($2.2 billion) and Ohio ($1.9 billion).

States which furnished the most troops for the invasion of the Confederacy:

  • New York: 448,500
  • Pennsylvania: 337,900
  • Ohio: 313,100

How do you like your almighty government now? 

 

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 15:24 | Link to Comment bugs_
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ZOMG!

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 15:34 | Link to Comment Stranger
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Get over it. Do you think the French still complain about role of East Prussians in the loss of Alsace-Lorraine?

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 15:44 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 02/01/2010 - 17:52 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 02/01/2010 - 20:05 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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If not for Baron Von Steuben America would almost have certainly lost the revolutionary war and the institution that is the Non-Commissioned Officer Corps of the United States Army would not exist in its current form and function.  We agree on that anon being a Dinksbumps!

Tschuss

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 16:45 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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No more than some French families would complain about the First French Republic..  If they could.

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 23:42 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 02/01/2010 - 23:57 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 02/01/2010 - 15:43 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 02/01/2010 - 17:08 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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Date California admitted to the Union: Sept. 9, 1850

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 16:16 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 02/01/2010 - 17:37 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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More like another Canada, but with more individual liberty.  De jure slavery was ending anyway, now we all have debt-peonage slavery to the Wall Street (Yankee) banks, don't we?  Even if I don't want to borrow money, the goddamned government borrows it in my name, signs my name on the loan, and sends me a payment book called "Form 1040".   It's the new plantation, and you'all don't get it, do you?  Think with your brains, and not with your Yankee history books.

 

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 18:17 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 02/01/2010 - 19:49 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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And before that the successful American revolution encouraging many Crown supporting colonists to depart for points north after 1781.

Tue, 02/02/2010 - 07:14 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 02/01/2010 - 18:42 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 02/01/2010 - 19:21 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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Here, in the midst of the searching of souls and the gnashing of teeth the delegates of this convention, harassed by the rash actions of a belligerent usurper and the radicals of his party have stumbled into cession.  God knows I, and many in this chamber have resisted it.  But, how can there be union when a section of the country wants to impose its will through coercion?  Now that we face the armed might of the United States....

Could have been spoken this very day... The primary differences being that today there is only one political party in the United States and as noted, slavery is now the norm in all 50 states and every other nation that has been sundered and incinerated by the Yankee bankers.

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 16:38 | Link to Comment Hammer59
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Fuck the Confederacy.

America works best when it says "Union?....YES!"

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 17:35 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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Yankee public schooling at it's finest.

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 20:03 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 02/01/2010 - 17:20 | Link to Comment Marley
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I love my country just fine, thank you for asking. 

"I'll tell you this

No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn" - The Doors

 


Mon, 02/01/2010 - 22:15 | Link to Comment Budd Fox
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Hey..I thought The Confederacy opened fire on Sumter first!!

You harvest what yo sow...don't you ?

Tue, 02/02/2010 - 06:34 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 02/02/2010 - 08:38 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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I am not free from suspicion: I am apt to entertain doubts. I rose yesterday to ask a question which arose in my own mind. When I asked that question, I thought the meaning of my interrogation was obvious. The fate of this question and of America may depend on this. Have they said, We, the states? Have they made a proposal of a compact between states? If they had, this would be a confederation. It is otherwise most clearly a consolidated government.

The question turns, sir, on that poor little thing — the expression, We, the people, instead of the states, of America. I need not take much pains to show that the principles of this system are extremely pernicious, impolitic, and dangerous. Is this a monarchy, like England — a compact between prince and people, with checks on the former to secure the liberty of the latter? Is this a confederacy, like Holland — an association of a number of independent states, each of which retains its individual sovereignty? It is not a democracy, wherein the people retain all their rights securely. Had these principles been adhered to, we should not have been brought to this alarming transition, from a confederacy to a consolidated government. We have no detail of these great consideration, which, in my opinion, ought to have abounded before we should recur to a government of this kind.

Here is a resolution as radical as that which separated us from Great Britain. It is radical in this transition; our rights and privileges are endangered, and the sovereignty of the states will be relinquished: and cannot we plainly see that this is actually the case? The rights of conscience, trial by jury, liberty of the press, all your immunities and franchises, all pretensions to human rights and privileges, are rendered insecure, if not lost, by this change, so loudly talked of by some, and inconsiderately by others. Is this tame relinquishment of rights worthy of freemen? Is it worthy of that manly fortitude that ought to characterize republicans? It is said eight states have adopted this plan. I declare that if twelve states and a half had adopted it, I would, with manly firmness, and in spite of an erring world, reject it.

You are not to inquire how your trade may be increased, nor how you are to become a great and powerful people, but how your liberties can be secured; for liberty ought to be the direct end of your government.

- Patrick Henry, 5 June 1788

 

Even those who HAVE studied history are doomed to repeat it, when they are surrounded by complete idiots who haven't.

- Me, Today

Tue, 02/02/2010 - 11:17 | Link to Comment WaterWings
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Excellent!

I honestly thought that you had penned the statement until 2/3 through and I noticed PH at the bottom. This was as excellent as your transistion from Hobbes or Locke (?) to the Declaration of Independence some time ago.

Wed, 02/03/2010 - 21:07 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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WW - Agreed.  Again I stand illuminated and educated from the efforts of SWR.

Mon, 02/08/2010 - 10:30 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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Too goddamned funny here: this Yankee makes states' rights noises, talks about the federal government overreaching, and early in this vid he says the United States is a "confederated republic." 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB03MEw2_4c&

He can start by apologizing for furnishing troops to invade the sovereign Confederacy, which was founded on the very principles he espouses in his vid. 

We did this once before you goddamnable morons.  Sam Rohrer, where the hell have you been?  In some kind of public school-induced trance?

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 15:24 | Link to Comment Tic tock
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About the only solution left is to forcibly borrow bank assets and promise to return the assets, er, later

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 15:30 | Link to Comment chet
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"with the bulk held by less impacted states such as Washington ($2.6 billion), Louisiana ($1.1 billion) and Oregon ($1.1 billion)."

Less impacted by population maybe.  Oregon has had some of the worst unemployment during this recession.  Rivaling Michigan for awhile.  Since this state is a constant fiscal fubar, it's nice to see we're doing better by any measure at this point.

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 15:36 | Link to Comment Narcolepzzzzzz
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The Geography of a Recession:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9jBNyysbho

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 15:41 | Link to Comment Steak
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I think this is an appropriate place to break down the Obama "jobs" bill as passed by the House:

Total bill: $174 billion 

  • $41 billion for emergency unemployment extensions
  • $36 billion for roads and rails
  • $24 billion for state Medicaid assistance
  • $23 billion to pay teacher salaries
  • $20 billion for the highway trust fund
  • $12.3 billion for health insurance extensions
  • Total of items listed above: $156 billion

All said n done, it is just another bailout of the states.  Wash, rinse, repeat.

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 15:49 | Link to Comment docj
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And the only thing that's surprising about this is how spectacularly unsurprising it is.

But I'm sure this "stimulus" bill will work as well as the other "stimulus" bill.

Meaning, of course, that we're totally freaking screwed.

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 15:45 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 02/01/2010 - 15:50 | Link to Comment Dixie Normous
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This mess only gets worse at the local levels in the years to come as real estate gets re-appraised to lower values for tax purposes.

I wonder how people will react to paying 5, 10, 15% of their property's supposed value on an annual basis in property taxes to support bloaded beauracracies.

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 16:19 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 02/01/2010 - 16:41 | Link to Comment Dixie Normous
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Not to mention pensions.

I laugh (cry really) when I think of us local private sector stiffs paying taxes into a system  chock full of so much bloat that it will never balance itself out without floating more and more bonds.

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 19:14 | Link to Comment Rainman
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+100. Public sector excess grew under the radar. Insane growth the past decade. Like a parasite, it is now choking the life out of its malnourished taxpayer host.

The government tail wags the taxpayer dog.  

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 15:58 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 02/01/2010 - 16:48 | Link to Comment Dixie Normous
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Stadiums kill me.  How about NY/NJ building 3!

The worst has to be a $200 million HIGH SCHOOL in Newton, MA. I think that's Barney Frank's district.  A fuckin $200 million high school!

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 17:47 | Link to Comment ShaneAshton
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As a former Miamian..y'all get what you deserve.  Its like fantasyland down there.  My favorite is all the half built skyscrapers and the rich expatriates thinking they can still flip condos.

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 16:03 | Link to Comment walküre
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Does anyone have insight whether or not "carbon offset" is showing as an expense on any of the states budgets?

Imagine the outcry. States can't afford to feed people because the money is going into a scam. Torches and pitchforks would be the least of their problems.

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 16:07 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Mon, 02/01/2010 - 16:20 | Link to Comment buzzsaw99
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It's fun watching the states get screwed over by their very own bought and paid for fedgub reps. The states are hosed and the congreffcritters couldn't care less. More bankster bailouts baybee!!

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 16:34 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 02/01/2010 - 18:20 | Link to Comment Yophat
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Couple cities in Kali now have higher unemployment than Detroit.

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 21:54 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 02/01/2010 - 16:37 | Link to Comment Gimp
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$ number is becoming irrelevant. Government will just print more money, fiat currencies have no backing therefore constraints. This is just a game of numbers now. How it ends, nobody knows but you may want to pick-up Rosetta Stones Mandarin course just in case.

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 16:38 | Link to Comment Gimp
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 " I meant "no" constraints".

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 16:38 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 02/01/2010 - 16:58 | Link to Comment Slewburger
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Finally something California and Texas have in common.

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 19:17 | Link to Comment Rainman
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....you mean Texas doesn't have crooked politicians ? :)

Tue, 02/02/2010 - 00:36 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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Don't fuck with Texas. Out of shape people won't run.

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 17:22 | Link to Comment glenlloyd
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When the checks (or electronic payments) start to arrive late that'll be the cue that there's trouble brewing. Just imagine Uncle Ben as a slow pay!

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 17:47 | Link to Comment WaterWings
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"Oh no thay dinnit!"

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 18:33 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Mon, 02/01/2010 - 17:44 | Link to Comment faustian bargain
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ugh...that california graph looks just like the heart rate monitor flatlining.

 

beep...beep...beep...BOOOOOOOOOOOOOP

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 18:02 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Mon, 02/01/2010 - 18:13 | Link to Comment SilverIsKing
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Greece is the word
It's got groove it's got meaning
Greece is the time, is the place is the motion
Greece is the way we are feeling

Greece is the word
It's got groove it's got meaning
Greece is the time, is the place is the motion
Greece is the way we are feeling

Greece is the word
Is the word
Is the word
Is the word

 

("turd" may be substituted for "word" at one's discretion)

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 18:19 | Link to Comment BaronG
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Great. Remember how CA also started taking 10% more in state income tax from each paycheck? This wasn't considered a raise in taxes because CA would pay it back at the end of the year. Thus, the issue wasn't voted on! So now I'm essentially loaning CA with no choice and no interest earned. I love San Francisco, but this state is retarded, bankrupt, and ridiculous. 

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 18:24 | Link to Comment SilverIsKing
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Just adjust your withholdings on your W-4 to take home more $$$.

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 20:06 | Link to Comment Mr Lennon Hendrix
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"The harder they come, the harder they fall, one and all." -Peter Tosh

Man, when I think about how much the doelarr is going to get it over the next couple years, then I think about how JPM was issuing IOUs to Kalifornians, and how JPM is issuing the food stamps....wait, JPM is running the money?  Hmmm...wait....wow!  so they already ran the doelarr into the ground and are already using alternative currencies!  boy is the doelarr gonna get it!!!  soon!  like February 11th.

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part deux: The Hatching

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