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Tue, 02/08/2011 - 21:11 | 944842 tellsometruth
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The Patiot Act Provisions just FAILED TO GET PASSED ... the WH released a Statement that they would like a 3 YEAR EXTENTION!

btw anyone whatch this one on CSPAN Live??? I only heard one comment called in support of it on all 3 party lines ...

 

ps I got on air

 

 

KEEP TELLING SOME TRUTH ZH... BECOME OUTSPOKEN!

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 21:19 | 944857 Dr. Gonzo
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That's good news. Fuck the Patriot Act! Obama criticized it when he ran. Now he's in love with it more than Bush. 

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 21:21 | 944864 Michael
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By a vote of 277-148, the House failed to pass the extension, needed 290(2/3) Yea votes to pass- click here for the roll call vote to see how your representative voted!  See list of traitors of our nation here.    http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2011/roll026.xml

Thanks again for all you've done, but remember, we can't let up pressure now. This won't be the last we've heard of the PATRIOT Act renewal in the House.

FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 26

      H R 514      2/3 YEA-AND-NAY      8-Feb-2011      7:04 PM
      QUESTION:  On Motion to Suspend the Rules and Pass
      BILL TITLE: To extend expiring provisions of the USA PATRIOT Improvement and Reauthorization Act of 2005 and Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 relating to access to business records, individual terrorists as agents of foreign powers, and roving wiretaps until December 8, 2011

                  Yeas Nays NV
Republican 210  26        5
Democratic 67   122       4
Independent      

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 21:32 | 944886 Midas Mulligan
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Barney Frank voted "Nay" to let them expire. Barney, you finally got one right.

Shame on any "conservative" for voting to extend these extraordinary powers.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 21:44 | 944912 tellsometruth
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agreed my comments exactly on cspan

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 21:53 | 944943 Michael
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1/3 Dem, 2/3 Rep Yea votes. That's a shameful bipartisan response for the dems.  

The Dem voters better get their asses on the phone and give  those 67 D votes an earful if they want to retain any credibility.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 22:09 | 944988 nmewn
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Gimme a T...gimme an E...gimme an A.

You know what that spells ;-)

"The vote came as several tea party-aligned members of the new freshman class had been expressing doubts about the measure."

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2011/02/ahead-of-patriot-act-vote-some.html?hpid=moreheadlines

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 22:31 | 945067 Michael
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Just think about all the people who monitor the web traffic at the Fusion Centers, the NSA, programming people and companies who will be put out of business should the Non-Patriot Act go down in flames?

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 23:25 | 945239 Mercury
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Without missing a paycheck they'll be re-employeed as Michelle's calorie counting crusaders.

Wed, 02/09/2011 - 10:32 | 946107 Arthor Bearing
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kalorie kounting.... ?

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 23:27 | 945247 quadcap
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You think they'll actually stop what they're doing even if the act isn't renewed?

We're past that point now, I'm pretty sure.  They don't need no stinking badges...

 

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 23:41 | 945296 dark pools of soros
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above the law and above the budget

Wed, 02/09/2011 - 03:42 | 945737 MayIMommaDogFac...
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<cough> what he said...

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 23:54 | 945335 living on the edge
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Agreed, it will not stop some of the agencies but there will be some positive effects.

Wed, 02/09/2011 - 02:52 | 945692 glenlloyd
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that's pretty much what I'm thinking too, some way they will continue on as they have, I can't think that they stop now.

This will go on, but it'll all be covered up. No one ever willingly gives up a portion of their power without 1) a big fight or 2) knowing that in reality they aren't giving up anything.

 

Wed, 02/09/2011 - 02:00 | 945618 Michael
Tue, 02/08/2011 - 21:34 | 944893 Michael
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"Front page on the politics page..... What a great picture and what a great story. I hope somebody will consider this front page material and put this photo embedded right above the story!..
Washington (CNN) - Will Ron Paul make another bid for the White House?
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A senior adviser to the 12-term representative from Texas says it's a strong possibility.
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"Congressman Paul is very pleased with his strong national organization and flattered by his growing national profile. He is strongly considering a presidential run and is assessing all of his political prospects," Paul Political Director Jesse Benton tells CNN.
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An influential pro-family social conservative group in Iowa, the state that goes first in the presidential caucus and primary calendar, announced Monday that Paul accepted an invitation to speak next month at a presidential lecture series."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/02/08/paul-strongly-considering-another-presidential-bid/

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 21:46 | 944921 tellsometruth
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run Ron run!

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 21:57 | 944955 tellsometruth
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Ron Paul will be on Fox Biz Freedom Watch Tomorrow

Wed, 02/09/2011 - 00:39 | 945485 lincolnsteffens
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I hate Freedom Watch. When is the Judge going to stop yelling his opinions. He sounds like Walter Winchell on steroids.

Wed, 02/09/2011 - 04:01 | 945751 chumbawamba
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Don't diss Judge Napalitano!

If you're talking about someone who merely yelled their opinions, you must be thinking of Keith Olbermann.

I am Chumbawamba.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 21:41 | 944905 Kali
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What makes you think it will make any difference?  They will do what they want to do anyway.  Who will stop them?  We have such blatant fraud and corruption in government and business, no one stops that.  Laws are a farce in this country.  Unless you are a peon who steals a loaf of bread to feed the brats.  Then you go to jail.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 22:16 | 945016 tellsometruth
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reject apathy it on serves TPTB!

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 23:03 | 945180 Kali
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Not apathy, reality.  Nothing is gonna change until the SHTF.

Wed, 02/09/2011 - 09:58 | 946037 ehildret
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Citizens of Gotham (America) need a caped crusader- Batman!!

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 23:29 | 945251 crazyjsmith
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The P Act was pushed through early needing a 2/3 vote to pass. 

This thing will get pushed through once again in a week or so, with only a majority needed, it will pass then. 

We can't think we won this battle, not with these crooks in office.  As we saw with the healthcare bill, they will keep pushing until it comes out of the other side, looking like a piece of e coli riddled sausage. 

Wed, 02/09/2011 - 00:53 | 945502 midtowng
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It failed because Democrats voted against it.

Wed, 02/09/2011 - 01:37 | 945584 bankrupt JPM bu...
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I'm begining to think all people that talk in an English accent are idiots.  Especially on CNBC.

 

www.silvergoldsilver.blogspot.com

Wed, 02/09/2011 - 05:34 | 945791 Sudden Debt
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FINALLY SOME GOOD SENCE!!

 

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 21:16 | 944852 mynhair
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Oil is sooooo yesterday. 

REEs, bitchez!

(Know I'm not first, but the repeat crap above doesn't count.  Fukking CNTL-V)

 

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 21:22 | 944865 Reese Bobby
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Looks great. Um, why don't they have any revenues?

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 21:37 | 944898 mynhair
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No revenues cuz they are all in development.  MCP is next year.  All current production comes from Chinee.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/251449-the-long-case-for-avalon-rare-metals

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 21:32 | 944887 Blindweb
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Oil is the gateway resource for all other resources.  The higher the price of oil the less revenue for REE and PM miners. 

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 21:38 | 944902 mynhair
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No REEs, no flat screens for the Welfare class.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 21:15 | 944854 bonddude
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here's some truth from Larry King about bank

fraud.

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/11079067/?listid=20867736

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 21:20 | 944860 bonddude
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PS hendry and I appeared to be wrong.

just treading water which is the way he basically sets himself.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 21:19 | 944858 B9K9
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Risk, you want risk? How about this?

WikiLeaks cables: Saudi Arabia cannot pump enough oil to keep a lid on prices US

Diplomat convinced by Saudi expert that reserves of world's biggest oil exporter have been overstated by nearly 40%

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/feb/08/saudi-oil-reserves-overst...

Paging Travis, Trav7777 to the white courtesy phone.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 21:20 | 944861 Michael
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Don't worry. The 22.5% unemployed won't be using much of it in the foreseeable future.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 21:29 | 944866 Flakmeister
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Oil, beechez....

but seriously

Let’s look at the data:

1) Recent storage data on tankers show that off-shore storage is about 60-80 m bbls. To put this number into context, it is about 1 day of demand or 2 days or net oil exports from producers.

2) Net Oil exports from producers peaked in 2005. There is simply less oil on the market. This chart is the tell:

http://www.theoildrum.com/node/7327#comment-756659

3) Sometime in 2008, the forward oil curve went into contango for the first time. They was a lot of debate about what this implied. My take is that the smart money figured out that demand would be outstripping supply into the foreseeable future. In essence, it now trades like a currency.

4) Breakdown what is called oil into its real components

C+C, NGL, Other liquids

Now, generously give an EROEI of 6 on “other liquids”, in other words from an energy perspective multiply by 0.85, otherwise you double count the oil to produce the liquids.

NGL is 65% of the energy density of crude

Ignore Refinery Gains, that is simply increasing the volume for the same energy content…

And fold in existing fields are declining at 4.5% (CERA, IHS etc..) per annum and that new fields are barely keeping up.

http://www.theoildrum.com/node/7385

The energy of Liquids production has been flat for 5 years.  

This is why oil is the alpha asset.

And I am plenty long precious metals as well.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 21:26 | 944868 bankrupt JPM bu...
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You cant eat oil, but if shit really came down to it, I would eat the shit out of my shiney maples...yummy

 

www.silvergoldsilver.blogspot.com

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 21:25 | 944870 The Axe
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forget oil...bonds about to get crushed,,,short TLT    what a move in the 2 and 10

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 21:38 | 944899 tellsometruth
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high ho silver!

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 21:42 | 944903 mynhair
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Fuk Saudi.  Drill, Baby, Drill!

Especially drill those dumbass SINators' skulls.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 21:42 | 944906 Belrev
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There are places in Brazil, Russia and China where western person could feel quite comfortable, but the rest of these countries would be considered a tough place to live in for a used to modern comfort sissy European or North American.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 21:43 | 944908 mynhair
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Patagonia is sweet.  Bring dry wood.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 23:36 | 945273 philgramm
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Spent a couple of weeks hiking Torres Del Paine and ice hiking the glaciers near El Calafate. Truly a beautiful part of the world. 

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 21:44 | 944907 CrashisOptimistic
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You guys still have not caught on.

This is not a matter of celebrating "getting it right" or sneering at a downtick in oil.

This is forever territory, folks.  There are no charts to show you recovery.  There will be no value to education.  There will be no economic policy that changes anything significant at all.

This is the ball game.  Oil gets scarce.  Someone doesn't eat.  That someone complains and that someone's leadership makes a choice: Appeal to the UN to take oil away from the US (we have 3% of population and consume 23% of global oil production) or try to bomb US cities, kill 10s of millions, and thereby cut US oil consumption.

Yes, folks.  THAT is what it means.  It's not a market issue.  It's death.

If you're an American, you have to sign on NOW to the concept of killing them before they come for us.  

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 21:46 | 944917 mynhair
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How does someone that doesn't eat complain, and not become Soylent Green?

You quit driving yet, ya fukking Lib?

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 21:48 | 944923 CrashisOptimistic
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Libs quit driving.  Americans get ready to eliminate competing consumption.  You ready?  I am.

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