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Market Depth: If 1,070 Taken Out In Futures, Watch Out Below

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Total panic in the market. PPT now out protecting the critical 1,070 level in ES. As the chart below shows, if the 1,070 level in ES is taken out, watch out for a repeat of the flash crash.

 

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Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:11 | 363340 Instant Karma
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They won't let it all fall apart. Unless there is something they want like more power when it does all fall apart.....

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:13 | 363354 Yophat
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Not if but when.....and that is such a guessing game!

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:26 | 363384 silvertrain
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 there not worried, they will just cancil the trades, you know, they can do that even if they cant find anything wrong..

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 14:45 | 363512 downrodeo
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at least we can know that they will know the exact time when the 'when' will be 'now'...

 

 

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:21 | 363375 MsCreant
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How about a stampede into US Treasuries?

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 15:14 | 363504 malek
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we are already having that, 10yr at 3.23%... (2:40pm EST)

update at 3:13pm EST: 3.20%...

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:38 | 363422 Sniper
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Doesn't look like they are with a move like that in the Euro

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 22:36 | 364803 MrTrader
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Where is the flash crash ? I want my flash crash! I want to make large amounts of $$$$$$! Large amounts of € which I want to convert into $, no - CHF or JPY is better. More value for my cash. I want my flash crash, please.....

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:11 | 363343 JenkinsLane
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Come on 850!

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:12 | 363345 Deficient Market
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Oil just took a huge $2 nose dive in a matter of a couple mins, ahead of anything else that I can see at the moment...

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:12 | 363346 John McCloy
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No Worries. Barney Frank is on CNBC now telling us how toothless financial reform will get the cloture vote and pass. Thanks politicians for screwing us Americans again.

* No vote on Cantwell-McCain

* No Blanche Lincoln

  These politicians truly do not care I just sent Scott Brown an email to tell remind him he is a turncoat and that this is Americans vs Bankers and there is only one side you can be on.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:29 | 363392 silvertrain
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 COMPLETELY WORTHLESS BILL,A waste of time and money..A true disgrace to say the least..I would love to see the whole freaking thing explode and see more bailouts..that would be fantastic AFTER A FIN REG BILL PASSES..

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:53 | 363461 PulpCutter
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Good man.  I (constituent) have been calling him and Kerry every couple of days.  For Brown, I get through easier at the Boston number, than the DC number.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:12 | 363347 ratava
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'saving' the markets in 08/09 was the best thing governments could do. now we can crash and rebuild both at the same time.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:12 | 363350 Turd Ferguson
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This is seriously fucked up.

It feels like all options are being used to stop/prevent another FlashCrash.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:26 | 363385 Hephasteus
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No the flash crash is where the market wants to be. They are just trying to get it down to there in an orderly fashion because it's become too apparent to everyone that they got too much ass hanging out and have been depants already.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:15 | 363351 nonclaim
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Don't worry, that size "wall" moves back and forth as the algos dictate. If you try to hit it with a sizable order, it disappears and appears just bellow. If you jump in front it "outjumps" you, crossing the market if it has to (in a different exchange).

It is there to intimidate, but it'll run scared if you try to hit it.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:13 | 363355 chet
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PPT will have their hands full today.  The indices will end up down "only" 2.75% and Cnbc will call it a victory.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:13 | 363357 JiangxiDad
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Hey, if I sell my shorts during the next flash crash, will the trade be honored??

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:16 | 363363 sumo
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Only if you work at the Squid's prop desk.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:14 | 363359 BernankeFed
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Wonder if there will be another Ben Lichtenstein audio.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:19 | 363368 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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All I know is by the end the Dow will equal an ounce of gold.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:19 | 363370 Turd Ferguson
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Bob Pisani is such a fucking douchebag. He stands there in his pink tie, in the middle of the NYSE, where absolutely NOTHING happens anymore, and talks as if he's got it all figured out.

What a fucking douchebag.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:27 | 363389 JohnKing
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This is a win for the bulls.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:51 | 363449 ZeroPower
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LOL!

Whenever i think of pisani i think of that line. 

If we DONT have a flash crash today, even if we finish 300pts down, itll be a win for the bulls.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:26 | 363387 Aductor
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Someone just got interested in Euros.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:41 | 363428 BernankeFed
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That looks like a short squeeze on euro. One of the features of crowded trades.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 14:07 | 363489 weelp
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Bernanke, fuck off. We know what you and your cronies are up to. 

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:27 | 363391 koaj
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fwiw - Suisee and UBS bought the bottom in futures yesterday. JPM stopped the freefall at 1071 or so 30 min ago

they're going to try and run this market green today

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:36 | 363410 Yophat
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giving it some gusto!  I'll be highly surprised if they hit green though....that said, I've been surprised a few times now!

I've been waiting for oil to come back to reality since the strategic reserve was filled to the brim at the end of December....

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:40 | 363424 koaj
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probably right but nothing shocks me. tough to read the tape and trade this thing when the PPT hits the nuclear buy button

oil should be at 30. less demand than there was before QE. 2.65 for gas in NJ is robbery

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 14:02 | 363482 Steaming_Wookie_Doo
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Try the $3.25 I paid for super in CA.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 14:04 | 363484 Yophat
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Amen on oil!!! US Reserves are full (largest in the world by several factors), Japan's reserves are full, China's reserves are full (although they continue to expand capacity with the goal of eclipsing Japan within the next decade).....meanwhile demand has fallen to 80's levels.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 14:35 | 363486 Yophat
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Duplicate...

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:30 | 363394 carbonmutant
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"A break above the 1.2445 level in the Euro would trigger a head and shoulders bottom on the short-term charts in EUR/USD. The textbooks tell us we should get a 300 pip rally if triggered."

http://www.forexlive.com/108042/all/thanks-to-blackie-for-pointing-out-t...

 

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:31 | 363399 chet
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Someone just made darn sure it broke that level.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:44 | 363437 carbonmutant
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Rumors of emergency ECB meeting...

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:31 | 363396 ArsoN
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So how many more DJ points before Benji starts force feeding freshly printed cash to the golden Wall Street goose?  After the final slaughter the foie gras should be perfect.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:31 | 363397 plocequ1
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Oil is down. Good... I have to fill up my gas tank. I hope Acmed at my Aamco station changes those prices by tomorrow.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:35 | 363400 plocequ1
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Oil is down. Good... I have to fill up my gas tank. I hope Acmed at my Amoco station changes those prices by tomorrow.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:33 | 363403 doublethink
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Will we break 1070? From the looks of it, the "PPT" is failing since  the /ES looks unable to retrace 38.2% of the drop from 1115 earlier today. For fans of Elliott Wave, the day so far has only been a series of 1-2s. When the 3s start...whee!

 

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:33 | 363405 You Cant Handle...
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Gee @ 1pm the bat-signal went out to buy.  

What an organic, price-finding market!

The FBI should be visiting the SEC and taking depositions about now.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:34 | 363407 mister_x
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What happened to the Euro? Damn that's a quick move.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:34 | 363408 Fix It Again Timmy
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Someboody, Gimme Shelter!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhBpUJcpiCg

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:35 | 363414 Deficient Market
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And here we go, ramp up comences as we congratulate CB's worldwide for a job well done, and anxiously await tonight's CNBS headlines of the "retarded-fat-finger Thursday"

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:36 | 363415 sumo
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Incy Wincy SPYder climbs up the water spout.

Nice save by the PPT at precisely 1 pm EST. Will it hold?

Just for kicks I went short on a VIX call spread 55/60. Got filled at my price, but the price for each leg was way out compared to real-time quotes. Very strange.

This feels like a dress rehersal for Flash Crash 2.0

 

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:49 | 363446 ZeroPower
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1064 is another key area for the ES_F

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:51 | 363450 deadparrot
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Oil looks good at this price.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:56 | 363472 Zam-Man
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WTF w/ the Euro.  *ouch*

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:58 | 363474 Grand Supercycle
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For several days I have been warning that EURUSD buying support is still evident and this has now been confirmed.

The proprietary indicators I use in my technical analysis can identify trend changes before they occur.

http://stockmarket618.wordpress.com

http://www.zerohedge.com/forum/latest-market-outlook-1

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:59 | 363478 Psquared
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Hard rally attempt seems to be failing. Try again at 3 PM.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 14:52 | 363527 doublethink
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In an A-B-C correction, the "PPT" couldn't get /ES above a 50% retracement of this morning's fall. With more than an hour left on the clock, looks like we'll break 1070 today.

 

"Brace...brace."

 

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 14:56 | 363532 firstdivision
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We're currently making like the Jeffersons and melting on up to the eastside. 

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 14:57 | 363537 JenkinsLane
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Thu, 05/20/2010 - 15:15 | 363601 faustian bargain
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M-I-T  P-H-D  M-O-N-E-Y

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 15:07 | 363564 Headbanger
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1070 on the SPX is the (approx) current level of the supporting trend line running along the lows seen Oct 2 2009, Feb 5 2010 and the flash crash on May 6. Next major support is around the 940 area provided by the peaks seen from earlt to mid June 09.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 15:08 | 363568 homersimpson
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Is it me but every time Tyler says "if ES hits (current price - 20) watch out!" the market magically goes up? Spooky.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 15:16 | 363611 faustian bargain
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Maybe he should start using some octuple reverse flea flicker psychology in his post headlines.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 15:32 | 363677 dcb
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folks, let's be a little rational. for the past two days the market has ended close to where it opened. so there has been no intraday market sell off.

I hate this crap. by the way. it is the same exaxt thing you described how the market has gone all up on gaps. now same thing down. computer algos stealing from each other. i'm learning to plya the game though. you can trade both sides of the market with double inverse funds.  how do you think goldman is making money each day.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 15:42 | 363702 firstdivision
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By betting against everything they sell their clients.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 15:56 | 363748 dcb
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I stand corrected finished down. but a short while ago we were near open.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 15:52 | 363737 johngaltfla
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TD, I concur 100% If we take 1070 out I say we see a 7-12% crash either tomorrow or Monday.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 16:01 | 363758 stevegee58
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1070 just barely held during RTH

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 16:22 | 363829 mikestephan520
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Well well. Support level was just recently taken out, and dropped to a low of 1067.25 in after-hours. It's making a climb back up, and is hovering around 1070. Actually, just broke 1070 for a few seconds as I type. This is interesting to watch.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 16:48 | 363934 stevegee58
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Interesting, indeed.

May you live in interesting times. LOL

Fri, 05/21/2010 - 00:18 | 364993 Grand Supercycle
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For several days I warned of EURUSD buying support as detected by my indicators - and this has been confirmed by the recent Euro break out.

The proprietary indicators I use can identify trend changes before they occur.

http://stockmarket618.wordpress.com

http://www.zerohedge.com/forum/latest-market-outlook-1

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!