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cool interactive graph - 2010 risks
We could see dow 5500 by the end of 2010.
If you truly are upset at what is transpiring, remove all funds other than what is necessary from your bank accounts, cash in all stocks and buy gold and/or silver. This is the only way to vote with your money and send a message to the banking and investment system.
"Bernanke will continue to print money until there are no trees left in America." -- Jim Rogers
"In the absence of a gold standard, there is no way to protect savings from confiscation through inflation. There is no safe store of value. If there were, the government would have to make its holding illegal, as was done in the case of gold. If everyone decided, for example, to convert all his bank deposits to silver or copper or any other good and thereafter decline to accept checks as payment for goods, bank deposits would lose their purchasing power and government-created bank credit would be worthless as claims on goods. The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there be no way for the owners of wealth to be able to protect themselves.
This is the shabby secret of the welfare statists' tirades against gold. Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth. Gold stands in the way of this insidious process. It stands as a protector of property rights. If one grasps this, one has no difficulty in understanding the statists' antagonism toward the gold standard." --- Alan Greenspan, 'Gold and Economic Freedom' (1966).
But what if there is deflation?...
just like physical world, equities seem to go up more slowly than they come down, all that hard work this falll slowly pushing up...
I'm going to try to wait to cover until the S&P is in the 900s.
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Gold posted its biggest one-day loss since 2008 on Thursday, hitting a three-month low as a wave of risk aversion swept through global markets, triggering massive technical selling in the metal.
"If you are short, you stay short, because there is no real reason to be a buyer unless the market sold off more," said Rick Bensignor, chief market strategist at broker-dealer Execution LLC.
DOW/SP500 downtrend on the daily chart continues.
The recent equities counter trend rally has finished and the March 2009 bear market rally is over.
The dollar, crude oil and copper charts have been giving bearish warnings for stocks for months.
The DOW/SP500 downtrend commenced as forecast and the USD rally I forecast several months ago is just getting going.
My indicators can identify trend changes before they occur.
They warned me of an impending market crash back in early *2007*
The uptrend since March 2009 has been a bear market rally contained within a much larger bear cycle that started in 2000.
You're a fairly new poster, but you're wise for your age.
You've learned a lot from the last couple of years. If you
take away one thing from this moment in time -remember that some forms of currency last a few hundred years, and some have been around since the dawn of human kind. There will be
no 401k, Social Security, Medicare, etc for your generation.
What will store your wealth?
Plan accordingly as you journey into your 30s/40s/50s/60s.
It's a short ride, and some hedges are more certain than
others when weighed against history...
the post 2nite about 'coordinated currency intervention' is something to keep in mind for short term. Probably happen by Feb 11th.
as far as gold & silver, silver is the better buy going forward due to the Au/Ag price ratio and also silver fundamentals, esp as base metal mining shrinks and produces less silver byproduct.
we've yet to see in the past ten years the motivation to buy precious metals in and of themselves. People have been doing this on their own, but not the institutional money--ala Oct 1987. Look for precious metals to detach from SMkt this year.
Buy 90% & 40% US silver circulated coinage. Typically no premium. Also, this looks even better given Obama is now going to debase metal content in clad coinage:
The 2011 Budget states that the use of "alternative coinage materials". Page 100 of the Terminations, Reductions, and Savings section would provide broad authority to the Department of the Treasury to make changes to circulating coin weights and compositions. The report specifically authorizes changes for five denominations: the cent, nickel, dime, quarter, and half dollar.
The Budget justifies the proposal by citing the significant fluctuations in the prices of copper and zinc, which have contributed to volatile and negative margins on the two denominations, and costs which have exceeded face value by over $100 million in prior years.
Changes in US circulating coinage doesn't happen that frequently:
1. WWII - nickles were made with 40% silver to save on nickel for war effort.
2. 1965 - silver removed from US coinage, except Kennedy half dollar which is reduced 90% to 40% Ag.
3. 1970 - silver removed from US coinage entirely.
Lastly, look at adding a little Nat Gas--in particular UNG, which has been under regulatory pressure from the CFTC on futures position limits. UNG's chart has followed NatGas futures until just the recent past few months.
UNG today was about the only green ticker on the street.
but UNG is one to trade, not invest. It has swaps (derivatives) in it.
As pointed out, the "man in the chair" buys futures every night. The difference is that now when the market opens real sellers show up. The MKT either goes straight up til you can't stand it, or straight down til you can't stand it. I'd say now that the veil of implied safety has been lifted, it shall be straight down.
captcha is too easy.
What does this mean for gold? Us vested ZH community wants to know!
Well, I feel that gold will probably go the same way as the S&P. I've noticed that it seems to run in the same direction.
Then again, it's just my own personal observation more than some kind of "fact." I think that one telling factor though is that if S&P goes down, that means that the liquidity to chase assets is drying up.If the liquidity is low, than there are less dollars to chase anything, even gold, and all prices are a function of demand.
There is always the occasion that people will flee the stock markets and get into PM's instead of crappy bonds like has been the case in the past.
Short answer: gold goes the way of the S&P since the market has been crashing and reinflating.Long answer: it doesn't always have to, and could change at any time. It never really did before 2008 as much.
Big4 short Dow, Gold, NDX...
In the long cycles, gold and stocks have inverse relationships. Eg. stocks peaked & gold bottomed circa 2000, gold peaked & stocks bottomed circa 1981. Granted, the recent trend has been for a positive correlation, but this could be an indication that the real move has not yet begun.
My prediction: bear market for stocks, bull market for gold, until 2015, when Dow and gold will both be at 10,000.
Self praise is no recommendation
<<<gold and silver are NOT trades (I stole that, just added silver for us PWT)>>>
Holy cow buddy! You sure are eager to know! ;p
Just kidding... one time it posted my post like 37 times and it was gay. I don't know why. Twice isn't so bad.
Sorry, futures are UP.
Better luck next time.
Fake present, fake future. Silver is real. Makes noise when you drop it, try that with a dollar. But dollars do flush better.
I wouldnt be so mean about the dollar, but its being used to rob me and mine like a blunt instrument.
Crime rate is bound to rise , it will be us against ourselves in ignorance of the true reality.
Is there no way to stop this????
Big4 short Silver.
Deflation favours dollars...
yes, anon, futures are up 1.75 points or 0.16% ... quite a move, indeed.
way to: (1) examine the messages given by Mr. Mkt; (2) understand what you're looking at; when we (3) talk about the start of P3 (circle); (4) leave a really useful comment of import after reading the disclaimer / crude immediate outlook; and (5) add to a serious discussion of trading / TA / portfolio mgmt.
not trying to be pissy but seriously, are you serious. at least wait until a few people have shared some actual insight before showing us (anonymously) how brilliant you are. we do enjoy funny jokes that try to touch our TA but c'mon guy, at least put some effort into it now.
Primary wave 3 (circle) ought last anywhere from 13 - 21 months (if wrong, then longer) and eviscerate any remaining shred of hope as it ruthlessly penetrates march '09 and october '08 lows.
from two minute traders: pull back your focus from the trees tonight and focus on the forest of the next few years ~ it ain't gonna be pretty.
Bingo bango bongo...
Thats what I'm betting.
Excellent Post!!! Is this the beginning of deaper sell-offs? Reminds me of the Titanic sinking and people ordering drinks, pre-mortem.
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