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Mass Killer Andrew Berwick's, aka Anders Breivik, Complete 777,724 Word Manifesto

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We won't even pretend we have come anywehere close to reading this, or have any interest in doing so. For anyone who does not share our lack of interest in what a diseased mind can drone about for 777,724 words, or 1,516 pages, knock yourself out. (link to the whole thing)

Full thing here

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Sat, 07/23/2011 - 23:25 | 1486103 Hulk
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Crazy people excel at this...they can get very focused.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 23:34 | 1486130 Mec-sick-o
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LOLOL!!!

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 01:01 | 1486360 GoldmanSux
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I would take that as a personal challenge, CD. He has usurped your dignitas.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 21:55 | 1486077 Manthong
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Well, he's got his place in history.

He'll be an advanced terrorist psycho-analysis case study forever.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 23:26 | 1486106 Witchsmeller Pu...
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Quick question for the slow of mind among us: which (heavily armed) State with the constitutional right to bear arms has the highest instance of mass shootings amongst developed nations?

 

Come on down USA, USA, USA.

 

 

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 23:27 | 1486112 Captain Benny
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I've spent a few hours reading this (skipping around) and I've come to the conclusion that this guy was both quite intelligent and methodical.  This was clearly demonstrated in the, dare I say, successful attacks, but this document goes beyond that.  Like a few people above said, this document and this man's history and now police/court testimony will be studied by governments and academia alike.

The useless American TSA will never stop or deter a guy like this determined to bring down a plane.  Why does America think that they must spend billions of $ on the concept of preventing plane crashes/hijackings when most terrorism is accomplished entirely without said plane?  Dumbass proletariat, living in fear under government repression.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 04:14 | 1486615 i-dog
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The TSA is not there to stop terrorists! It's there to train the people to obey prison guards and willingly allow themselves to be humiliated without question.

The only recent terrorist on an airline flight in the USA -- the underwear bomber -- was escorted on board, without a passport and bypassing security, by a CIA operative! Meanwhile, infants, children and their parents -- daily by the millions (2 million per day) -- are being taught to 'be quiet and obey the man in the uniform' or be subjected to a humiliating junk juggling.

It's surreal that people don't recognise this!

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 11:01 | 1487100 erg
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Agreed i-dog. Kurt Haskell heard and watched the whole thing. Now that the public accepts it, they can roll it out in many more locations. Malls, sporting events, etc. They'll always push to see what they can get away with. To them, the sky's the limit.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 05:42 | 1486665 AnAnonymous
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The useless American TSA will never stop or deter a guy like this determined to bring down a plane.

It has little to do with determination. The fact is that resources are allocated to monitor a certain kind of people and therefore it gives way to other kinds to prepare quietly. Monitored on design people are excellent lures. Get in a shop while some other negroes are in in a US store and it opens opportunities to behave in the US way: robbing.

"When the cat is away, the mice are playing"

It is a result of choices made in this US world order.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 09:51 | 1486959 Conrad Murray
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I've spent a few hours reading this (skipping around) and I've come to the conclusion that this guy was both quite intelligent and methodical.  This was clearly demonstrated in the, dare I say, successful attacks, but this document goes beyond that

It truly is a remarkable piece of work. It's a shame so many are more worried about whether the photo is a shoop or not, than the contents of the tome. Understanding where this individual was mentally should be a priority. But, 1500 pages is asking a lot of the 140 character dimwits.

Why does America think that they must spend billions of $ on the concept of preventing plane crashes/hijackings when most terrorism is accomplished entirely without said plane?

America doesn't think that. Not the average American anyhow. Most are quite upset their grandmother and babies get sexually assaulted and/or irradiated just to get on a cramped, overpriced plane. But, the average American is also an obedient slave. It's far easier to whine on Facebook about how unfair life is, than to actually take a stand. The few who are most likely willing to fight the good fight are simply leaving the country. No sense in risking one's freedom/life for a bunch of brain dead savages.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 16:03 | 1488162 GoinFawr
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Yeah, it's a 'piece of work' all right. A remarkable 'tome' of derangement by delusion.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 23:36 | 1486136 indio007
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"Jurors should not accept Islam as an excuse for murder."

 

Oh the irony!

Tue, 07/26/2011 - 19:27 | 1488177 GoinFawr
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Indeud. Of the most pathetic, cowardly variety. Read on, it gets far, far more surreal.

"...The (marxist) Institute left Germany for New York in 1933 because the Nazis came to power in Germany. Not surprisingly, one of the Institute's first tasks in New York was to oppose Nazism. It did so largely by concocting a psychological "test" for an "authoritarian" personality. Supposedly people with this authoritarian personality were likely to support Nazism. Both the concept and methodology were doubtlful at best. But the Institute's work laid down (sic) an important tool for the left, namely the notion that anyone on the right was psychologically unbalanced..."

Well, some more than others I guess. Somehow I doubt providing a strong 'case in point' for this assertion was part of AB's plan, whoops.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 23:40 | 1486147 Cameli
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They actually brought this guy in? Unbelievable.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 02:47 | 1486537 Prometheus418
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That's the other odd thing, isn't it?  You'd expect a firefight, though the wierdness here might just be that it's a different culture, and they're not acting or reacting the way I would expect.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 00:10 | 1486168 spear-x
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Amazing they got this guys 1500 page tome out so fast. Translated and all. I would have thought it a key piece of evidence. I call false flag. They need a new terrorist enemy to spread more fear and expand control over the masses.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 02:53 | 1486544 AnAnonymous
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He spent nine years writing his manisfesto.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 23:54 | 1486192 jstalin
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He calls on the Pope to order catholic senior military officers to engage in a coup and organize a new crusade.

Notwithstanding that, this guy is clearly smart and did a crapload of research to write this thing.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 08:32 | 1486833 High Plains Drifter
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uh huh........a new crusade.......i thought we were already doing that now?  its Christians vs. those evil Mooooslims.......yep......meanwhile back at the ranch, rome is burning yet no one sees it..........

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 00:14 | 1486256 Jeffrey Lebowski
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Crazy as a fox....Mad as a hatter, a brilliant son of a bitch, but ruthless.......

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 00:22 | 1486270 Jeffrey Lebowski
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False Flag op. Too many fucking coincidences and occurences. This came together too quickly to be anything but false flag....this guy makes NASA look unorganized.

 

Not believeable-- in my estimation anyway

 

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 09:54 | 1486966 Conrad Murray
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9 years is coming together too quickly? I think your tinfoil hat is on a bit tight there nutty buddy.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 00:37 | 1486319 bob_dabolina
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Wow, this is all pretty intense. 

I read through the document and it is quite profound. There are videos and everything. 

I find it hard to beleive a single man drafted that. I find it impossible that a single man did what the news claim he did alone.

This is quite incredible.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 00:58 | 1486351 GoldmanSux
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1500 pages? Give us an executive summary! Why does he justify mowing down innocents?

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 01:04 | 1486368 bob_dabolina
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Not sure/ 

The document is only 1/2 what is in the Obamacare legislation and I'm only 1/10 through that document.

It looks to be an interesting read.

 

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 02:04 | 1486486 gwar5
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I looked but didn't see it specifically mentioned yet, but so far from context, this attack seemed to be aimed at the "marxists", and their kids, whom he felt were aiding and abetting in the Islamic "demographic warfare" to reconquer Europe, hence they were "traitors". 

He goes in great detail to desribe past and recent history with specific examples, footnotes, and citing academics to make his case. It reads like a reference book and call to action, not a delusional rambling of paranoid psycho, or the mass murderer that he is. 

This is a turbo-charged intellectual version of Timothy McVeigh, literally on steroids, pushing back against what he sees is the marxist-muslim alliance committing treason and a form of warfare through the purposeful slow motion invasion of his homeland. 

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 04:38 | 1486632 Jayda1850
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+2083 kudos gwar. probably the best interpretation of motive I've seen presented so far

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 10:58 | 1487097 FEDbuster
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More like Ted Kaczynski than Tim McVeigh.  This was a guy on a mission.  I still am wondering why he did the bombing of government buildings on a holiday when most of the buildings were empty?  That doesn't make sense for a guy who had planned it for so long? 

The shooting at the summer camp is reminicent of the school shooting and bombing at Beslan.  Only Beslan was a group of about 10 muslim extremists, and this was a single guy.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 14:31 | 1487826 schizo321437
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"If it feels good, do it."

 

It's in there.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 16:00 | 1488147 Abitdodgie
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Are politicians or to be politicians innocent 

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 10:00 | 1486976 Conrad Murray
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You did not "read through the document" if you "find it hard to beleive a single man drafted that". If you had actually read even the slightest bit of it, you would know the truth from the very beginning. From page 5:

I have written approximately half of the compendium myself. The rest is a compilation of works from several courageous individuals throughout the world.

 

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 02:57 | 1486364 caerus
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this magnum opus reads like a doctoral dissertation...a very intelligent (if warped) mind or collection of minds wrote this

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 01:04 | 1486365 polizeros
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The armband he's wearing in the photo says “Multiculti Traitor Hunting Permit”

I'm sure there were others but Tim McVeigh didn't have many helping him, did he?

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 01:27 | 1486416 gwar5
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Wow, that was one focused dood. But stupid, WTF did he thinkg killing dozens of kids was supposed to do for his cause? Set it back 20 years and make the world hate him? Mission accomplished.

He minces no words about the marxist-Islamic alliance, same thing is happening in the USA.  They don't even hide it anymore. And pretty much seems to nail demographic warfare under multiculturalism as the means for the reconquista of Europe. Says muslims don't want integration, they want own territory under sharia.

That was indeed a manifesto. He'll have plenty of time to write a sequel.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 04:33 | 1486628 AnAnonymous
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Says muslims don't want integration, they want own territory under sharia.

Integration is not possible in a US world order. US citizens are not assimilationists, US citizens are not cosmopolitan, they are segregationist at heart, a feature that is very likely the combinaison of cultural and genetical traits.

Calling for integration is an environment where people support segregation is just what it is: US propaganda.

The occurences of the impossibilities it leads to are numerous: how many times has one seen US citizens blaming non US citizens for adopting the very same behaviour as them (meaning integration)? So many times.

The adoption of similar behaviours is acknowledged as the hallmark of integration by proponents of integration and it is a slap in the face for proponents of segregation who see it as the evidence of failure of segregation.

Calling for integration while supporting segregation is smoke and mirrors. People organized enough to react to it react to it.

US citizens nature is eternal.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 11:53 | 1487269 Urban Redneck
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You should really stop trying to write broad characterizations of US citizens.  You apparently know very little about them. 

"US citizens are not assimilationists, US citizens are not cosmopolitan, they are segregationist at heart, a feature that is very likely the combinaison of cultural and genetical traits."

The US has a long and relatively successful history of assimilation -

Go to any cosmopolitan US city or back water and try to separate the English, French, Germans, Irish, Italians, Norwegians, Poles, Scotts, et al they have largely assimilated and are relatively indistinguishable.  Then go to any European city or back water and try the same thing.

Among the blacks- forget about trying to separate Ashanti, Ekets, Fang, Malinkes, Peuls, Sousous, et. al among the Bantu West Africans, or even separating the West Africans from the East Africans and the Southern Africans. Assimilation takes a couple generations, but the Americans are light years ahead the multiculturalist segregationist Europeans.

The US doesn't even make the list of the locales of recent significant ethnic conflicts- Yugoslavia, Rwanda, Sudan, the Indian subcontinent and Sri Lanka, China and the States of the former Soviet Union.

 

What nation exactly are you suggesting is more assimilatory than the US?

 

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 01:36 | 1486430 MrPoopypants
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Norwegian police held bomb drills in downtown Oslo a couple days prior, a hallmark of false flag ops. Also, early reports of multiple shooters. Also, he bombed a gov building on a holiday, which doesn't fully jive with the max casualties M.O. Also, early reports and photos seem to suggest that the bombs were either inside the buildings or underground, contradicting the car bomb story.

The point here is to direct anti terrorist measures homeward. Terrorists are not brown people far away, with funny language and customs - they have blond hair and blue eyes and they're conservative Christians. Maybe they have strong political views and write letters to the editor. Maybe they listen to AM radio and have Ron Paul bumper stickers on their cars.

This is just the latest stage of an incremental approach that was obvious since the Patriot Act and the American Taliban. Before this, the latest was the US assassination attempt on the leader of al Qaeda in Yemen, a US citizen. Ultimately it will be legal to assassinate citizens domestically. It's one bait-and-switch after another, and it will end in utter tyranny.

This event also serves to curtail some of Norway's excessive independence and, according terrorism experts, heralds the rise of automatic weapons as the preferred tool of black ops terrorists. Coming soon to a city near you.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 04:54 | 1486640 uranian
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ding ding ding as to the terror exercise a few hundred meters away the day before. also how did a car bomb cause damage to the top of a building? looking at that pic, it appears that the damage started at ground level, worked its way up the building and exploded out of the top, which could be consistent with a bomb placed in the basement level; the brick wall is damaged from ground to roof and then it appears that the explosive force came out through the top floor, presumably the roof being more structurally sound than any of the internal ceilings.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 08:03 | 1486789 Moe Howard
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All good points. The "Bowling Green Two" Iraqis that were imported by the FBI and used in a "sting" anti-terror FBI bust, are now cited by "conservative" Republican Brett Guthrie as why we need the Patriot Act. They create the problem, to justify the solution.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:26 | 1487367 uranian
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i don't doubt that breivik is a proper nutter in the first place, but whether he was aided'n'abetted by a secret service (whether it's mossad or someone else, though the palestinian PM's presence here a couple of weeks ago is worth being aware of, as is norway's recent financial disdain for israeli companies) of the world, that would far from surprise me either. i'm trying to imagine the state of mind that a person would have to be in in order to use automatic weapons on children, with political change as the goal; the extreme difficulty i have in seeing that makes me wonder if he's not been got at by some mk-ultra type operatives (a US mind control program, watch a documentary called "human resources" by metanioa films for an overview of their murderous history). so i found this excerpt from a norwegian blog interesting (the wife blogger's husband knew breivik fairly well as a teenager):

 

When I showed the picture of Anders Behring Breivik to Wa (my husband), he was completely bewildered. "It's Anders!!!"; Wa and Anders met at graduation courses in Skøyen church when they went to secondary school together. They shared the same interest in graffiti and tagging, and began to paint around in Oslo together and leave signatures. Anders wrote under the name "MORG" ["morning"] They snowboarded together too.

Wa remembers him as a bit odd, but otherwise quiet and normal. He was good at grafitti. Wa was often at Anders' home, he lived with his mother in Skøyen. A completely normal home.

The friendship did not last long, and they grew apart as we often do at that age.

Many years later, about 4 years ago, Wa met him in a cafe in Majorstua. Then, Wa puzzled over how extremely "slick" he had become.

 

i'm just having a hard time buying the official story because he and an accomplice (news of which doesn't really seem to have hit the MSM, but i watched this second guy being arrested live on TV, apparently a second shooter, another norwegian it seems) were on the island shooting for somewhere between 1 and 2 hours before there was any kind of response (other than journalists in helicopters filming over the island), the terror exercise the day before (by now a classic false flag indicator), and because there are lies being told about the nature/position of the bomb at the ministry building in oslo.too many obvious problems with the official version already; cui bono?

 

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 14:28 | 1487816 uranian
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dug out some details on why it took 90 minutes to get a helicopter to the scene:

 

Currently, the Norwegian police have two helicopters. The helicopter service is under the Oslo Police District, but it assists other districts and special units as required. The helicopters are used for traffic
monitoring, rescue operations and during apprehensions. The main helicopter is equipped for monitoring and surveillance. It is outfitted with communication technology, as well as advanced video and heatseeking cameras. The other helicopter is used mainly for transport, and it can carry up to four passengers with personal and special equipment.

 

They decided not to use the apparently ideal 2 choppers because they were too far away, approx 50km south of oslo. one of these choppers has a cruise speed of 250km/h, so once in the air, it should have taken approx. 12 minutes to oslo, another 5 to 10 minutes to the island. compare and contrast that it took 45 minutes by car from honefoss and these clowns apparently hadn't thought to contact local police about a boat.

 

Police chief said: 'It was faster going by car (45 km to the scene by road) because we would have had to get a helicopter (parked 50 to 60km south of the capital at Rygge airport), and that would have taken longer.'


so the cars and the chopper were both ~50km from the scene, and they chose the car?? doesn't hang together to me.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 01:43 | 1486435 HL Shancken
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Nobody but lightweights, intellectual lightweights, make a mockery of what Anders has done. You are all pathetic, small little men who delight in your own pathetic jokes while all around you the walls that hold up your civilization come tumbling down. Infected by political correctness, you think your crass language and juvenile turns of phrase distinguish you as mavericks and modern sages, but you are nothing more than a collective joke.

 

The fact of the matter is that the infestation of Eastern thought and peoples that the Western world has been subjected to is the product of the deliberate efforts of Marxists to destroy this civilization, it being the most formidable obstacle to the triumph of Marxian enslavement. But you mock this notion, thinking that because you yet pull your car into your garage every night and retire to your comfortable lodging, doing what you will with your free time, including sounding off irreverantly about the woes facing the Western world that is no longer recognizable to those of us with eyes that can still see, that nothing can touch or change or harm your lifestyle, that because you have acquired wealth or status you have security which cannot be taken from you. You believe you understand the world, that though those you believe you've elected to do your bidding may be fools, they are harmless fools, and nothing they do, no policies they pursue, can ever affect you or your progeny in any way which could meaningfully change your standard of living or threaten anything you hold dear, including your own lives. You are fools. You are stupid, stupid fools.

 

 

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 01:59 | 1486478 WaterWings
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Yes.

Comrades,

of Gulagosphere,

Please distract yourself much by Google translate option. Real freedom is available.

We much yes have goodness soon agriculture harvest.

We much animal husbandry mimic to strengthen workers and increase glorious output.

Loveness for all.

Live long Gulagosphere.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 02:02 | 1486481 AnAnonymous
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Great. How funny.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 04:38 | 1486631 Peter_Griffin
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@HL Shancken

What has he done?  Kill unarmed kids?  You seem to think he has pushed some movement forward, done something unattainable by others.  I'll let you on to a secret however, only people in need of mental help would think to condone or support such actions.  And I don't say that to be rude, I sincerely mean if you agree with his actions you should seek help.  He targeted people totally unrelated to his complaints, kids who can't even vote.  He is infinitely more responsible for the political atmosphere that surrounds him than the kids he targeted.  And instead of using logic and rationality he resorted to murder.  To me, his actions scream cowardice and mental illness.  He was armed to the tooth to take on an island of kids, and as soon as others with arms arrived he surrendered.  Would you find it brave of me to beat on those with physical disabilities, only to run away when someone of a normal physical stature arrives?

I think you should take some time to think life over.  Think about what 92 lives lost really means, and what effect that has on other's lives.  Think about the importance of your life, and the short length we all get to experience life.  Think about, in reality, how little politics can influence our level of enjoyment with our lives.  Life really is too short; live, laugh, smile, have some fun.  No need for so much negativity.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 07:57 | 1486783 AnAnonymous
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I'll let you on to a secret however, only people in need of mental help would think to condone or support such actions.

That itself is condonement. People who support and/condone this kind of actions are far from being mentals for all of them.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 10:10 | 1486998 Conrad Murray
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I'm going to run on the assumption that you are an American. If not, these words still apply to those who are Americans and are in agreement with your sentiment.

What has he done?  Kill unarmed kids?  You seem to think he has pushed some movement forward, done something unattainable by others.  I'll let you on to a secret however, only people in need of mental help would think to condone or support such actions.

Do you pay taxes? If so, you are supporting and implicitly condoning the murder of children all around the world. You have NO, zero, right to criticize someone who has done exactly the same as you, but was brave(stupid/crazy) enough to attach his face to the slaughter. I'm sure you feel morally superior way up there on your high horse, but if you think someone killing 92 people is bad, what does the 100,000+ dead in Iraq alone make you?

Here is just a tiny taste of what you are supporting, hypocrite - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEoexKX3SuE

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 18:25 | 1488739 GoinFawr
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How does that make him a hypocrite? He never said he supported US foreign policy, he was denigrating the motives of a mass murderer of children. Even if he was evading forced taxation, and therefore in your eyes 'not a hypocrite', it's universally stupid to make such a claim in writing,  so what right have you to ask? Are you a phishing troll?   I mean, you quoted him but then went off on your accusatory misdirection without addressing a single one of his questions.

 Are YOU implying that you condone this subhuman act? If so, you're far worse than any hypocrite, in my estimation.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 02:00 | 1486480 epicure3
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Oh, I read that manifesto. However, it was in German. I think it was called Mein Kampf.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 08:20 | 1486814 Moe Howard
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Recheck your reading comprehension. Muslims were, in general, Nazi supporters. The SS even had a Muslim Unit. They wore the Fez with a tassel. The Baath Party is fashioned after the Nazi Party.  Wake up from your media propaganda coma.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 02:35 | 1486524 Redneck Makin-tosh
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Deeply disdurbed male ego externalises psychosis and blames others

Deeply disturbed female ego internalises psychosis and blames self

I'd rather learn about what was troubling Amy Winehouse than the propaganda that seduced this weak willed soul.

Where were the freinds and neighbours to help in reducing the profanity in their respective lives?

What the fuck have the masons been thinking?

Christian my arse

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 03:02 | 1486538 BlackholeDivestment
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Imagine that, ''another'' little occult demon boy pulls another ''geopolitical psy-opp'' heard around the world, picks up a weapon and slaughtered children. Turns out the bastard is a Mason. Just par for the Masonic course. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy0wAUrYIIs This is prep-work for the Big Kicker Iranian Patsy Peace with Israel and the nations. I can see it now, NY gets nuked or whatever and Israel blows Iran to the wind quickly, and the President Mahdi Hussien of America gets his ''pre-emptive'' Nobel Peace Prize to shine for not nuking anyone, and because the city size slaughter is so great the market shock and fear of all out global war grips the sheeple being slughtered to the point that every leader on the planet will sign on to what ever new market beast rises and Israei Palistinian etc... peace plan they have already written up for the final stage. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKERKUoCG6Q&feature=relmfu

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 03:20 | 1486548 honestann
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I watched the video, but don't have time to read the document.  The fundamental mistakes are already quite obvious.

To set the context of my response to the video, I'll convey a short personal story - an experience I had in junior high school.  I had no respect for "the establishment" in school, but I always avoided making or getting into trouble.  I never paid any attention in class, mostly because I had very strong personal interests in sciences, and usually worked on them rather than listen (maybe looked like I was taking notes).  I'm usually very observant, but one day in history class the teacher seemed to just appear behind me and noticed what I was doing.  Out of nowhere his voice boomed, "Have you ever learned anything from history?", he threatened.  Completely surprised and off guard my mouth said, "Yes, I've learned that nobody ever learns anything from history".

He was stunned into silence.  So was I.  I must give him credit, because clearly he understood exactly what I meant.  History is nothing but an endless cycle, where people in control of governments repeat the EXACT same horrors over, and over, and over, and over again, the only difference being tweaks and new technologies.  To my surprise, after a long time just standing there, he just walked away.  Frankly, I believe that really was the first time I consciously identified this farce-fact of history.  Probably the same for him.

This seems like the same problem the author of that video [and document] has.  He advocates taking exactly the same kinds of stupid actions that always cause horrific pain, agony and destruction - every single time.  Clearly he doesn't get this, because a great many aspects of his "solution" mimics the nutballs he intends to protect himself from.  No, sorry, not "protect himself", but "protect his culture".  Which is huge part of his problem, an absolute, complete and utter lack of the concept of "individualism" (as far as I can tell).

He chooses the wrong ideas to advocate.  For example, he advocates "isolationism, not imperialism" instead of "independence, not imperialism".  Even worse perhaps, he advocates "unity, not diversity".  This is an explicit attack on "individualism", which unfortunately he does not seem to consider part of his "culture", much less a fundamental part.

Sometimes the correct answer looks at first glance like a contradiction.  Take the idea of "unity versus diversity".  The fact is, unity is stagnation, authoritarianism and eventually death.  To progress, technologically or otherwise, requires diversity.  Hell, every invention is exactly diversity, and every attempt to improve anything is diversity.  That's inherently and fundamentally true because those actions are explicit attempts to do something different than current conventions.

What humans need, but do not have in nearly sufficient quantity, is diversity.  Here I'll insert my mental visualization of the optimum state of affairs when many people live in proximity, like on one island, one continent, or one planet.

My vision is this.  Everyone is "doing their own thing".  Everyone has their own interests.  Everyone does their own thinking and tries their own approaches.  But also quite naturally, everyone observes the consequences of actions taken by others, and adopts actions and behaviors that led to desirable consequences.  The net effect is both diversity (lots of "trying new things"), but also tendencies toward natural convergences.  That is, some actions have consequences a great many people desire, and thus tend to get practiced by increasing numbers of people.  All  without anyone needing to pressure or force anyone to do anything.

This is the nature of individualism, unless you are stranded alone on a planet all by yourself --- which sounds increasingly wonderful to me.

At this point, everyone reading this is painfully aware that I left out one detail.  Everyone must also let everyone else "live and let live" too.  And that's the fundamental key and necessity of any and every honest, ethical "system".  And unfortunately, this very most fundamental and key feature of human interaction is precisely what is increasingly missing on earth.  Virtually ALL focus today is on authoritarian solutions to everything, and zero focus on honesty and ethics, which are in fact another name for individualism.  If the motto of earth does not soon become "live and let live", or something equivalent, the history of mankind will soon spiral down the drain and the infintesimal accidental experiment in living organisms in the universe shall cease (or at best, play out any elsewhere).  As I've said many times in this forum, the state of reality today is dominated by:

predators DBA government
predators DBA corporations
predators DBA central banks

What this poor misguided fool should have realized given all the time, effort, focus and research he performed, is that conventional approaches have never worked.  Indeed, they lead to exactly the kind of world he would hate (I think and hope).

I'm painfully aware that I cannot personally organize mankind into functionality.  Sometimes I kick myself for wasting time posting here, for I have infinite productive and rather extraordinary work to do.  I guess I hope clarity and words of wisdom might "catch on" in a few people, and they start the necessary intellectual bootstrapping process.  I don't have time, and I'm as diametrically opposite from inspirational or "a leader type" as anyone could imagine.

But I just wish people would consider that we only need one basic modus-operandi to convert mankind into a glorious, successful, highly efficient and functional being.  And that is... live and let live.  Allow everyone else to do absolutely anything they want as long as they constrain the consequences of their actions to themselves and their own domain.  If they have developed a truly impenetrable force field they can surround their property with, let them test nuclear weapons inside.  I don't care, as long as that force field is completely reliable.  Yes, I'm exaggerating a bit to make my point.  But only a bit.

What we need... sorta... is to return to the wild west.  What we need is a population that wears the most viscious automatic weapons known to mankind in both holsters on their hips.  What we need is a population that never initiates force or harm upon anyone else or their property BUT will, without hesitation, gun down anyone who dares tell them they "must do something", or tells them they "must not do something" that does not harm others.

This is paradise.  Oh, I suppose we should have a "one warning convention" too.  At least until humans habituate new (individualist) ways of thinking and behaving, I suppose we should respond verbally first.  Maybe say, "do you realize that you just told me I must do something that I might not want to, or that I must not do something that does not harm others?".  If they say "yes", then gun them down.  Put the first few bullets throught their head, for there is never any good reason to inflict pain on predators, only the need to rid the earth of them.

I don't know why dedicated people make things so complicated, when in reality they're quite simple.  Oh well, back to work.

PS:  Why do people kill random strangers and not the authoritarian predators who cause all these problems?  Makes zero sense!  Scratch that.  I just realized, his actions were intended to get attention and thus act as a recruitment vehicle.  Still, better to take out some of the predators in the process.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 03:57 | 1486597 BlackholeDivestment
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Oh Ann, ''why'' is very simple, they are evil. Yes that's right, evil. In case you have not figured it out this ain't Heaven and yes ...no one here gets out alive because of it. Evil needs to feed like anyone of us and evil requires an unsealed human host. That host feeds on the first fruit and remains hungry still. You see the hunger of the new global market beast and you see the call for peace with it, as it is now actively consuming the principle of labor all over the planet. This little masonic demon boy, and his bullets, defines the micro of the macro slaughter. Think how the few that have stood fast against the micro and the macro hosts of evil, they usually end up slaughtered trying to wake people up and then their blood seals the hearts they seek to awaken.

This nutball was not born an evil bastard, he became the evil tool of fear because of the evil influence of sick jerks like the occult masonic freaks etc.... Fear not, stand fast and do no harm. Do not seek to save your life or you will lose it, war does not overcome evil, evil overcomes it's own and destroys all flesh if possible. When your time comes, and it will, when you are faced with deadly evil and there is nothing you can do to save life, even your own, just make sure you did not become evil trying to save yourself and you will have overcome it. There is a perfect example in the Bible obviously, not many have the strength to stand that fast but you must try. Every knee bows to love in the end. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJQCLzJKy2M

...poor children, who but the elder of man would think to cast them into this world where evil has laid claim and seeks to sustain it's own image by devouring them?

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 04:53 | 1486646 AnAnonymous
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This nutball was not born an evil bastard, he became the evil tool of fear because of the evil influence of sick jerks

He probably has genetics predispositions that leads him to sink in that river of denial, in that sea of fantaisies.

This guy has totally rewritten reality in order to suit his tastes, leading to accomplish  the known task, it means that its self preservation instinct was suppressed heavily to fall in such spinning.

It is known that the US world order favours the selection of people with a taste for propaganda and denial of reality but still a stretch between denying meaningless facts and building up a cogent spinning of reality in order to enable oneself into a mass slaughter.

This is PC incorrect but this kind of people, who are numerous now thanks to the US world order, it is admitted, are the result of both genetics leanings and cultural endoctrination. It is no other way.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 06:29 | 1486687 BlackholeDivestment
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My friend, DNA, chemical, racial etc... issues aside, you can take anyone from any place on the planet and put them under the same masonic etc... influence  in order to get the same result. The military is a prime example, it does not matter what country, you can take a young person and by the time they reach this twisted jerks age they are commiting suicide in one form or another, even if they don't end up killing others directly as this nutball has. You are not likely to  run into craftsmen, the type that run Iran Contra operations but, if you have you certainly know the occult masonic reality at hand, and in play in the field, and the twisted mentality of their compartMENTAL degree of bullshit. Deadly freaks with ''do what thou will'', not the will of God in Christ etc.., as their creed and then some, that's just nuts off the get go and it gives them license to do evil bullshit a loving person would not consider, much less entertain. You must understand how the ''new world fraternal order of evil'' works it;s craft. Those ''Knights of the Secret Circle'' come out when the light is turned off and the crypt is illuminated with black light, that's when you see Nebruchadnezzar's throne disappear and The Fallen  rise out of the bottomless pit of darkness. Now that sounds weird enough huh? Well that's the same evil masonic image this murdering scum had in his head, as he slaughtered the children. Lucifer is their god, just read a little Albert Pike and you might get a taste of how evil selfish twisted the ''order'' is that people like this guy followed  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txf3A8-QAaw&feature=related

 

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 08:00 | 1486787 AnAnonymous
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No. Again  unPC but it takes specific profiles to build up in this kind of rhetorics.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 19:58 | 1489136 BlackholeDivestment
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...interesting, and the builders of nations and tombs do not have an ''order''? UnPC? don't be fearful, declare the offer, you might help us all understand. Everything should be out in the open in this case.

Anytime some moron dresses up in some masonic garb it's a sign of belonging to an image that is evil. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtBT5gthmA8&feature=related ...these nutballs are not kidding by the way. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzO8uZCdODU&feature=related

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 03:06 | 1486551 chalcedonite
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In response to pg.  823

"During one exile of six years, Athanasius, lived in the Egyptian desert with monks.  Assassins were hired on one occasion to dispose of Athanasius.  The statist named George of Cappadocia, an Arian bishop, to replace Athanasius.  George took possession of his office with imperial troops and began to persecute savagely both orthodox believers (Christians) and to pillage the pagan temples.  The pagans seized George, paraded him through the city tied to a camel, and then burned both George and the camel.  According to Schaff, Arian legend made a saint of George and first made Athansius into an enemy wizard, and then into a dragon whom "St. George" overcame."

RJ Rushddony (pg 70 The Foundations of Social Order)  and Schaff  (Church History III)

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 03:08 | 1486553 AnAnonymous
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I cant wait for reaching when he deals with the European Union.

It should be said that this guy embodies the best of the US spirit as it can be found in Europe.

His project is directly sourced at the FF project.

For this US citizen minded man, there is not several European countries but one European country, there is not several European nations but  one European nation, there is not several European cultures but one European culture, there is not several European people but one European people.

This guy wishes to repeat the FF experiment of the melting pot by eradicating cultural differences between various national people and bring them under the same banner of the white race.

Islam is just an instrument in that to force people to adbicate their differences and join together. It is the union against a common enemy or death by standing alone.

Looking forward to reaching the part where he addresses the EU because he is on the same page as them. Will be really interesting to see how he demolishes them and want himself to be different from them.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 03:33 | 1486572 Bwahaha WAGFDSMB
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Identity and Violence: The Violence of Illusion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym12o1i2Mak

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 04:09 | 1486608 scratch_and_sniff
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+1

Degenerate paranoid fantasist, just because he was organized leads some fools here to believe that he has a point “

The best lack all conviction, while the worst
are full of passionate intensity“…

just another unnecessary example of what happens when dangerous idiots bite of more than they can chew.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 04:07 | 1486606 Placerville
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A coincidence that the Preparatory Committee for the United Nations Conference on the ARMS TRADE TREATY just concluded.

Debate continues over what arms to include in the treaty. Supporters of a wider treaty say the treaty should not just include inventories on the U.N. Register of Conventional Arms but also cover SMALL ARMS and LIGHT WEAPONS and AMMUNITION, as well as technology transfer and brokering.

Look it up for yourself.

http://armstradetreaty.blogspot.com/

http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Security-Industry/2011/01/26/Support-fo...

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 04:23 | 1486623 FranSix
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Come September in Oslo, they won't be having children write essays on "what I did last summer."  

Didn't read the manifesto, though I surmise that there would be a line missing in the closing arguments where you shoot yourself after committing mass murder.

Ruger Mini-14 previously used in a massacre:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruger_Mini-14

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 04:33 | 1486626 toothpicker
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Manifesto could be written by ADL / Mossad

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 09:52 | 1486958 grunk
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I was thinking Big Sis wrote it to compliment her "Watch Out for Whitey" videos.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 05:03 | 1486637 Negro Primero
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2 Recent Videos From LiveLeak:

"Oslo Terrorist Anders Behring Breivik Manifesto" (12:22)

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=89a_1311444384

"EXPOSED! Norway shooter-Right-wing Christian or Media Fairy Tale?" (4:45)

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f92_1311488356

 


Sun, 07/24/2011 - 04:48 | 1486639 deepdish
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The government in Norway trying to make a point in the memorial in the church today. All the political elite and the royal family are gathered together with many of the Oslo population. But no metal detectors, and the TV reporters says that there are moderate security.

 

Prime minister Stoltenberg has said he will fight the terror with an open society and more democracy. Looks like it ain't just words.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 04:48 | 1486642 ambrosiac
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From the leaving-nothing-to-chance dpt:

 

For PDFs, he says, Foxit is shitty but it kinda works.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 05:39 | 1486664 scratch_and_sniff
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Get that feckin junk button back.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 06:18 | 1486677 Instant Karma
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This psychopath makes the unibomber look succinct.

Targeting children at an island camp is beyond evil.

A combination of the unibomber, Oklahoma City, Virginia tech, Columbine, Fort Hood, Arizona, etc.

Targeting the government 'makes sense' if one disagrees with policy, such as immigration, but there are many other forms of protest other than mass murder.

The political ramblings were mere rationalizations to go on a mass killing spree he felt obsessed to carry out.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 06:34 | 1486693 Azannoth
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Say and junk me all you want, his guy is a hero in my book, but I leave it at that before I get banned for saying something 'stupid'

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 06:41 | 1486704 laosuwan
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whatever your oinion fact is that all native european peoples will, at present birthrates, be forced to choose in a few decades between (a) leaving, (b) taking up arms like this guy, or (c) living under the rule of islam. This is a fact anyone can see with their own eyes and verify from the statistics on birthrates, and it transcends and makes irrelevant all opinions about multi culti, history, etc. It is going to happen. It is happening. And anyone with eyes and a brain can see it when they visit Europe. Europe has chosen to comit suicide.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 07:40 | 1486759 i-dog
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"living under the rule of islam ...... This is a fact anyone can see"

Wrong. It is only a fact in your own mind ... because you can't see the wood for the trees!

The NWO is attempting to flood all nations with people of other nations - both to apply social pressure on people who would prefer to live within their own 'tribe', and as a way of encouraging 'multiculturalism' in order to break down religious and other traditions. They want a single world homogenous 'state' with everybody obeying a central authority, rather than looking to local community leaders (whether family, religious or political). To the NWO, social chaos is just as important as financial chaos in order to encourage people to turn to the NWO and its police force for 'help'.

Look at Mexicans and Cubans being encouraged to flood into the US. Look at Asians flooding into Canada and Australia. Look at black Africans, Slavs, Roma, Chinese workers, and other ethnic groups flooding into western Europe...not just ragheads.

Your reaction is no different than the perceived threat to 'civilisation as we know it' when Italians, Poles and Greeks first started arriving in larger numbers in the US. The original English, Irish, Scottish, French, Dutch and German settlers weren't that happy either!

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 08:40 | 1486844 Negro Primero
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"Your reaction is no different than the perceived threat to 'civilisation as we know it' when Italians, Poles and Greeks first started arriving in larger numbers in the US. The original English, Irish, Scottish, French, Dutch and German settlers weren't that happy either!"


...and the Native Americans even less!

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 10:08 | 1486993 i-dog
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Indeed. How far back should we wind the clock?

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 10:27 | 1487036 AnAnonymous
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Indeed. How far back should we wind the clock?

Back to 1776. Beyond is useless as other order prevailed and their introduction would only lead to confusion.

This is a US world order and what is needed is to understand what US citizenism (Americanism) is.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 16:38 | 1488333 Cathartes Aura
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thanks for widening the lens i-dog, and re-minding folk just what's behind the agenda being enacted globally, rather than personalising the day-to-day chess pieces played.

 

amrkns might want to pay attention to the states offering china "economic zones" to build exclusive factory towns, as US corps did in Mexico, then Thailand, then Vietnam, and then China - always chasing the cheapest slave labourers - that it's coming full circle to the "homeland" is a very interesting development.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 08:08 | 1486797 AnAnonymous
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It is stupid because a lot of Europeans will have indeed to leave Europe and it will have nothing to do with Islam (if though those who are going to leave might paint it as such to deny reality), it will the result of their own doings which will lead Europe to be too expensive for them to live in.

As to the story of birth rate statistics, I studied the case a bit and in doing so, I discovered that the same drivel existed in the US for negroes and this in the 1900s. By now, the US should have been overrun by negroes.

I ran the 1900 data numbers and found out that this was gross exageration.

Now and this is difficult for US citizens to admit, reality is here and the birthrate statistics treatment that should have led the negroes to overrun in the US was simply bogus.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 16:32 | 1488306 Moe Howard
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The Progressives in America have been running an exterminate Negroes program for about a 100 years. Haven't you studied that? They destroyed the family unit, jail as men of the 16 to 60 year olds as they can, build abortion clinics in the ghetto, and do everything they can to shorten life. Not too many under 200 lbs welfare queens, you know. The blacks in America have been dropping as a percentage of the population for a long time, and they are also encouraging the fat white trash to breed with what's left to further cut the racial ties to the negroid race. Meaning the Progressive program for the African-American is extermination through poor health, abortion, jail, and interbreeding. It has been successful.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 07:20 | 1486741 saarislan
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97% of the text copied off the net according to Scandi university copyprotection software.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 07:33 | 1486756 Lord Welligton
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Got link?

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 07:56 | 1486782 Franken_Stein
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What I wonder about is this:

 

Why did he turn his hatred against innocent children ?

He seems to have thought this through from start to end.

He's doesn't seem to be a hot-headed loose cannon.

More of a cold-blooded planner.

 

He could have assassinated the Bilderberg Conference for example.

 

Where all the globalist assholes get together in order to concoct their sinister plans against mankind.

 

That would have been worth it !

But killing defenseless children who did no harm to anyone ?

Now that's just illogical and cowardly.

 

Barking up the wrong tree, Mr. Breivik.

 

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 08:10 | 1486800 AnAnonymous
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It is again instructive that this guy who is a deep supporter of the European Nation project is sold by people as an enemy of globalism.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 19:11 | 1489017 Diogenes
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Everywhere you look in this case you see more illogical impossible facts. The story does not make sense if you look at it closely or think about it. Like a typical false flag operation.

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 04:03 | 1489927 Azannoth
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No it makes perfect sense(take it from some1 whos a cold blooded thinker) assasinating children of leaders is the most pain you can inflict and you kill the future leaders that would continue the policies of the fathers, it's the best bang for you buck

the worst you could do is to assasinate old senile farts like Kissinger or Rockefeller their place is already reserved and replacement are in waiting

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 08:14 | 1486807 FrankIvy
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First guy who actually does something in a world going off a cliff and the only words half the readers on ZH.com can manage to spew are "lunatic" and "crazy."

Guy took the time to write a lifetime's worth of work on what he believes is wrong with the world, then attacks who he views as the enemy to get worldwide attention, which he has.

And everybody who knows that the world is undergoing a massive entropy increase here on ZH.com dismiss him outright.

I suppose that you'll change the world from your iConform platform.

BTW - addition of farcebook and the twit thing are a definite downgrade for this site.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 08:37 | 1486841 High Plains Drifter
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ok fine.  so you think what he did was cool and that what he did helped out..........ok fine.........

i will now tell you what i think. what he did was cause a lot of damage. to his country and to his people. case closed. now having said that one might conclude that this happened for a reason and a purpose as these things always do. the simple question to ask is............cui bono?

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 09:01 | 1486873 FrankIvy
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It's intellectually sloppy of you to equate A. my notion that those sittin in their chairs bitching about the world going to hell should think twice before writing off this guy with B. - liking what the guy did.

I don't support murder of any kind, ever.  But I have more respect for this guy for making his stand, however wrong headed, than I do for the millions of sheeple tying into their iConform about how "something needs to be done."

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 11:33 | 1487207 High Plains Drifter
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oh come on frank.   did you see this guy do this stuff?  i didn't. who knows what went on over there.  listen man, the first thing you learn is that everything you see and everything you think you know may not be what you  think it is, that is for sure. so , one might decide it would be beneficial to wait before we extrapolate any preconceived notions about what went on over there. again i ask, cui bono, who benefited from this activity?  the norwegian people? nope. white nationalistm ?  nope . the norwegian government?  nope. then what was his purpose and who helped him?  this guy is the biggest patsy i have ever seen. worse than mcveigh.........he probably can't even shoot a gun worth a crap. did you know that oswald was a terrible shot, yet he was supposed to shoot at a moving target from 200 yards away with a junky old military surplus rifle and a head shot no less.........oh please..........

as reported by someone who was with oswald in mexico. he couldn't hit a cactus with a damn shotgun..........good grief.......

http://www.acorn.net/jfkplace/03/JA/DR/.DR1/.Orig/.dr23.txt

and what happened at the theatre that day?

he was lead out of the theatre while under arrest and he was saying he had been setup.......yep.....its on the newsreel....sometimes little clues get out before they close ranks....

the little clues about this guy will come out....just give it time as the alternative media examines this ......

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 08:42 | 1486848 Gavrikon
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Say you are correct.  Many of the issues he brings up from what I can see are valid.  The raped white girls in Malmo, Sweden would likely agree.

But he is a lunatic precisely because his actions have brought the disgust of the world for anything he might have said, valid or not.

Many have nationalist sympathies and feel that muslim immigration is destroying Europe.  The answer is a slowdown in immigration until they begin to assimilate (though many also believe that they never will).

But killing teenagers in cold blood?  How in the hell does that solve anything?  

He is a fucking nut!

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 08:58 | 1486870 FrankIvy
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You Europeans are funny.

In the U.S. I lived around cultural minorities my whole life.  Not only are they not intergrating, they're self-segregating.

Why you believe that religious minorities will come to Germany/Sweden/Belgium and become just like you is beyond me.

Not that I think there's a problem with that, necessarily.  Live and let live, and I don't care about the purity of . . . wherever.  But the European stupidity in believing that time will make others just like you is insane.

There already is a 4,000 year old example.  Whereever the Jews have gone they have remained Jews and everybody has eventually grown to hate them for their culture.  Why do you think their close brothers the Muslims will be different?

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 09:52 | 1486961 AnAnonymous
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I suppose that when Saxons enforced their segregationist system when they conquered Britain, they stated the same about celtic people and how they did not integrate.

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 06:43 | 1490001 i-dog
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The Saxons were taught that tactic by the Jews!! Didn't you know that?

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 06:07 | 1489976 Gavrikon
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Frank, I am a US-expat, living in Germany.  And I agree with you.  Trouble is, a whole lot more Europeans who are sick of this are going to have to become politically active.

 

And this douchbag just everything much worse.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 09:55 | 1486970 AnAnonymous
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Many have nationalist sympathies and feel that muslim immigration is destroying Europe.

If they have nationalist sympathies, why do they care about Europe?

I suppose you mean they are racist, dream of merging European people along the racial lines and want to destroy cultural differences so they pimped up Islam as that enemy you could not defeat if you do not go with the plan.

This guy was not a nationalist. He constantly consider Europe as a one nation/country/culture.

This guy represents the finest of the US citizen mindset in Europe, embodied by the EU and their program to build up a European people.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 08:33 | 1486834 Gavrikon
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Is muslim immigration and crime a huge problem in Europe?  Yes.

Did what this asswipe do win any supporters for those who want to see immigration from muslim countries reduced?  

Stupid Fuck. 

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 08:36 | 1486835 Gavrikon
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Is muslim immigration and crime a huge problem in Europe?  Yes.

Did what this asswipe do win any supporters for those who want to see immigration from muslim countries reduced?  

Stupid Fuck. 

Oops, double-click.

OK, gives me another chance to say it.

Stupid Fuck.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 08:35 | 1486837 Gavrikon
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Sorry, triple click

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 08:34 | 1486838 High Plains Drifter
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damn is that a puke light on the end of that gun?   i didn't know they made puke lights for guns....cool.......

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 08:38 | 1486842 Hubbs
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H&K (Heckler and Koch) MP5 (machine pistol)-  a close quarter combat" assault rifle"  chambered in 9mm - which is a hand gun round- perhaps?

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 08:40 | 1486845 High Plains Drifter
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they don't give HK's away either.  I wonder just how much money we are talking about for this rifle and all of those accessories?  More than I wish to spend, that is for sure.  Oh well, when you need to do a job, sometimes your rich "friends" will help you in your task........

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 08:39 | 1486843 web bot
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It's frightening that the human mind could contrive this... let alone the manifesto. Something obviously broke inside of his head.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 08:54 | 1486863 FrankIvy
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Webbot wrote: It's frightening that the human mind could contrive this... let alone the manifesto. Something obviously broke inside of his head.

Nonsense.  The world around him is insane.  This was just his reaction to it.

 

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 15:01 | 1487917 schizo321437
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So, he was G.I.G.O?

 

 

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 08:51 | 1486861 gall batter
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didn't read the manifesto but did read chris floyd's assessment.  here's a little of it:

There is not much to say about the horrific events in Norway, beyond this general observation. If a white, Christian nationalist carries out such atrocities, then he is, inevitably and always, a "lone nut," an outlier, emblematic of nothing but his own individual lunacy. But if a Muslim-- or any person of color or non-white ethnicity -- does anything similar (or indeed, far less serious in scope), why then, that perpetrator is emblematic of an entire race or religion or ethnic group: a group which must then be laid under collective suspicion, and collective harrasment, by the "security" forces (and the chattering classes) of the West. 

In the coming days, we will hear much about the tormented psychology of the Norwegian terrorist ... who, as Glenn Greenwald notes, will no longer be known as a "terrorist" at all -- precisely because he is white, Christian and a "patriot."

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 09:47 | 1486948 AnAnonymous
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That is the way it works in this US world order.

People are playing with fire with immigration as US citizens are segregationist at heart and the US citizens nature is eternal.

US citizens are unable to assess actions without looking at the actor. The actor makes it all.

This guy, who obviously have benefitted from strong networking, will be left to represent only himself while a muslim makes a similar action and US citizens, all over the world, demand that the muslim world apologizes for this muslim's action.

 

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 11:43 | 1487238 High Plains Drifter
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in the middle east, the mossad uses "true believers"  to accomplish israeli policy goals.  therefore when these "true believers " do something stupid, they are enabled and helped by mossad operatives and they don't even know it. so the mossad and israel gain something that is in their national interest and they make it look like it was a home grown indigenous arabic terrorist event. so what happens is this. the arabs do something stupid. the israelis gain because this makes all arabs look stupid and barbaric and aids the jews in their goals of wanting to annihilate islam, which is their present policy and military goals at this time. basically they want to get all arabs out of the land called greater israel, so they can set up their new world order in jerusalem. islam was useful at one time and still is to a point. but its usefulness has more or less come to a end, due mainly to its power derived from sheer numbers of converts.......islam was used for a very long time as a battering ram against Christianity. It has been used by various parties over time as needed. It was invented for a purpose and aided in its inception by certain parties except that sometimes as things go, such inventions can and do take on a life of their own. this is the case with islam.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 09:48 | 1486950 AnAnonymous
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That is the way it works in this US world order.

People are playing with fire with immigration as US citizens are segregationist at heart and the US citizens nature is eternal.

US citizens are unable to assess actions without looking at the actor. The actor makes it all.

This guy, who obviously have benefitted from strong networking, will be left to represent only himself while a muslim makes a similar action and US citizens, all over the world, demand that the muslim world apologizes for this muslim's action.

 

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 09:15 | 1486894 topcallingtroll
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People like this are easy to spot.

They are superficially sometimes charming but if you look at the details of how they interact they have no empathy or understanding of how others feel.

They also get obsessed about a single idea or group of ideas and talk about it or think about it frequently. Everything they see happenning around them they relate to their obsessive idea. If not frankly delusional then we call it an overvalued idea in psychiatry.

Add projection of blame and refusing to think they might have contributed to their problems and you have all the key ingredients.

Then they need a precipitating event, something that lights the fuse.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 09:17 | 1486902 FrankIvy
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Or maybe he's perfectly right, and he just handled it in a horrible way.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 17:03 | 1488424 Cathartes Aura
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the narcissist traits are generally celebrated in gendered men, with empathy conveniently outsourced to gendered women (I used "gendered" as the traits themselves can, and should be present in a healthy mixture in each human individual, not divided into "opposing" sides.)

"empathy" is a "pussy" trait, hmm?  and "pussy" gets. . .fucked over.

that's a repeated meme here, and elsewhere, on the web, and very strong in gaming (WoW), militaristic subliminal training - it's hardly surprising the man felt "conflicted" sexually, yet wrote of celebrating his deeds with a "pair of whores". 

that would be impressive to some minds.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 09:25 | 1486916 Beau Tox
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The following verses of New and Old Books are the formative images under which modern 'Templar/Masonic Knights' operate.  I, myself, dispute that these symbolic 'knights', 'princes', etc. of Daniel and St. John are represented by such free-jacks as the writer of ther manifesto.  It may be that the Crusades are still in effect and that the battle has been enjoined in Europe and in America.  If that is the case, then we won't know who our true friends are until Armageddon itself.

Daniel 12

[1] But at that time shall Michael rise up, the great prince, who standeth for the children of thy people: and a time shall come such as never was from the time that nations began even until that time. And at that time shall thy people be saved, every one that shall be found written in the book. [2] And many of those that sleep in the dust of the earth, shall awake: some unto life everlasting, and others unto reproach, to see it always. [3] But they that are learned shall shine as the brightness of the firmament: and they that instruct many to justice, as stars for all eternity. [4] But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time appointed: many shall pass over, and knowledge shall be manifold.

Revelation -Apocalypse 6

[1] And I saw that the Lamb had opened one of the seven seals, and I heard one of the four living creatures, as it were the voice of thunder, saying: Come, and see. [2] And I saw: and behold a white horse, and he that sat on him had a bow, and there was a crown given him, and he went forth conquering that he might conquer. [3] And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature, saying: Come, and see. [4] And there went out another horse that was red: and to him that sat thereon, it was given that he should take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another, and a great sword was given to him. [5] And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature saying: Come, and see. And behold a black horse, and he that sat on him had a pair of scales in his hand.

[6] And I heard as it were a voice in the midst of the four living creatures, saying: Two pounds of wheat for a penny, and thrice two pounds of barley for a penny, and see thou hurt not the wine and the oil. [7] And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature, saying: Come, and see. [8] And behold a pale horse, and he that sat upon him, his name was Death, and hell followed him. And power was given to him over the four parts of the earth, to kill with sword, with famine, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth. [9] And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held. [10] And they cried with a loud voice, saying: How long, O Lord (holy and true) dost thou not judge and revenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

Reveation - Apocalypse 19

 

[11] And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called faithful and true, and with justice doth he judge and fight. [12] And his eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many diadems, and he had a name written, which no man knoweth but himself. [13] And he was clothed with a garment sprinkled with blood; and his name is called, THE WORD OF GOD. [14] And the armies that are in heaven followed him on white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. [15] And out of his mouth proceedeth a sharp two edged sword; that with it he may strike the nations. And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness of the wrath of God the Almighty.

[16] And he hath on his garment, and on his thigh written: KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. [17] And I saw an angel standing in the sun, and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the birds that did fly through the midst of heaven: Come, gather yourselves together to the great supper of God: [18] That you may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of tribunes, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all freemen and bondmen, and of little and of great. [19] And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies gathered together to make war with him that sat upon the horse, and with his army. [20] And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet, who wrought signs before him, wherewith he seduced them who received the character of the beast, and who adored his image. These two were cast alive into the pool of fire, burning with brimstone.

[21] And the rest were slain by the sword of him that sitteth upon the horse, which proceedeth out of his mouth; and all the birds were filled with their flesh.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 09:48 | 1486921 FrankIvy
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Just read the first 23 pages.  Here's my quick review:

The guy, who I assume is not a native English speaker, writes better than 95% of Americans.

His point is very clear, and he presents it well.

His thesis is - Policital Correctness is the governing principle of W. Europe, it is nothing more than "cultural Marxism," or what I'd call de facto Marxism, and it is responsible for the degradation of W. European society from both a cultural and family/individual perspective.

Really quite a nice intro, and given what I've read about things in the UK (must have a colored doll and a "handicapped" doll if you run a day care), it seems pretty accurate over the first 23 pages.

EDIT - I'm in many more pages and, I gotta say, this guy's work really nails the whole PC atmosphere at colleges.  I have a feeling that this work is going to be the basis for a huge rise in nationalism in W. Europe.  Americans don't read, so unless Steven Spielburg makes a movie, no effect in the U.S..  My experience at various colleges is exactly what this guy describes - no real pursuit of truth, just a hard core liberal professor cabal seeking to indoctrinate.

BTW - I don't agree with the guy's thesis - I'm not worried about PC or multiculturalism or losing America's culture.  Live and let live.  But he's correct in his assessment of what has happened to Universities and how you are quickly blacklisted if you don't toe the party line.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 09:49 | 1486953 AnAnonymous
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Only people who wish to see this guy correct can see him to be correct.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 10:24 | 1487027 i-dog
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Wow ... 27 posts from you on one page!! And all just throwing insults and glib mockery. You sock puppets must be working overtime this weekend!! LOL.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 10:30 | 1487041 AnAnonymous
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Projection is a nasty thing for US citizens. Insulting people? Sure, sure...Gib mockery? Sure, sure.

Really a commonality of thoughts and behaviour among US citizens.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 17:39 | 1488572 dark pools of soros
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no you are a shill.   The document presents the case that Jews do not need the shield of multicultralism anymore now that they are established and that Islam is now trying to follow their path into other cultures.

Remember that this guy is a product of the Freemason system of the last 30 years. (Christian/Zionist bond)

But as the writer hits on many times, the tide that was needed by the masses to allow the Jews to use this shield is blind of the main reason for it (prevent future holocausts) and now flows with pure thoughts of diversity.  So therein lies the conflict. How do the Jews stem the tide now, without exposing why they really used it in the first place and how they rather never see multicultralism in Israel.

 

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 09:30 | 1486923 clymer
Sun, 07/24/2011 - 09:38 | 1486933 bill1102inf
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50 Pages in an everything the guy has written is correct so far.  This 'book' should be required reading, for the world.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 09:50 | 1486957 AnAnonymous
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It is only correct in a US world order as it is rigged with falsehood.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 09:48 | 1486952 KTV Escort
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Yeah, the Rambo image is definitely Photoshopped, complete bullshit (I'm a graphic designer and Photoshop is my strongest suit). Who provided it?

As an aside... many years ago I watched a movie portraying the life of Christ. Can't remember which one. A teenage Jesus asks his mother, "Why does evil exist?" Mary replies, "Evil exists that we may become better because of it." I thought that was good.

Pathetic slow response from the "authorities" to the island. WTF?

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 10:29 | 1487039 FranSix
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The head looks like CGI, photoshopped onto the rest of the image.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 10:49 | 1487078 Beau Tox
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Escort;

Go pay for another hour in your hotel room.  You have become paranoid and grandiose in behavior.  Stop taking up digital space here.  The image is from a 12 minute MOVIE that he made.  If you can PhotoShop it from that, then you deserve Banzai7's job.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 11:18 | 1487144 WaterWings
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-1

Amateur Photoshop is amateur.

The real question is who photoshopped it and why. The arm patch is also fake.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:03 | 1487300 Beau Tox
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I am sorry to have to call you people 'Amateur Commenters'.  You never read source material OR do homework.  And yet you type away with the drivel and refuse to be corrected.  Now I see that you can spell the name 'PhotoShop'.

I would never take money to teach the children of the sheeple.  It would dishonor my family and its traditions.  You are the sheeple, that don't know a movie from a still-shot.  You believe whatever is presented to you in shadows, on the wall of a cave.

The 'Manifesto' is the real deal, that intends to turn the tide in Europe.  There will be more bloodshed and it won't be PhotoShop.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 16:19 | 1488246 hungarianboy
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Read his document. He photoshopped it self. And he had a reason to do it.

Just read trough the pages and you'll know why.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 11:53 | 1487271 KTV Escort
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BT... seriously? wow.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 09:53 | 1486964 overmedicatedun...
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gwar- hit it..leftist and muslim are the enemy to this guy..just like in ok many more helped this op.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 09:57 | 1486971 spanish inquisition
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Amazing the amount of analysis that is going into a Christian Terrorist. (2 cents follows)

My personal feeling is he could be the first non Government sponsored Christian terrorist. A true product of 30 years of warfare to aquire resources. Of nations praying for God to win in His name and help to smite your enemies (who you have been told to hate). A true warrior that realizes change and sacrifice must first be made internally to be able to stem the coming hoard. Feared by politicians and TPTB because he is not part of the political process, but actually believes the captured media propaganda and is acting on his own to those ends.

Not a bad start.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 10:22 | 1487020 FranSix
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If the shape of domestic terrorism is to target gender and children under the auspices of out of control government, then watch the SHTF.  No  news as of yet from Oslo on this aspect, but guaranteed that should it be the case that men are shooting girls out of frustration because they can't live in a Matriarchical society, then males are about to become persona non grata.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/École_Polytechnique_massacre

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_mcveigh

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 17:13 | 1488463 Cathartes Aura
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where are these "matriarchal societies" you write of?  they do not exist.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 11:15 | 1487143 scratch_and_sniff
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“Not a bad start”? Umm, that’s me done, im out of here. I cant stomach vermin like this anymore. There has been nothing written on this site that requires anonymity, nothing other than twisted filth from backward, misanthropist, racist, anti-semite, paranoid, delusional losers, this has fuck all to do with freedom of speech. You people are kidding yourself if you think the right for these people to spurt their filth needs protecting, let alone promoting. This is practically an incitement to shoot children...seriously ZH, where is your common sense, where is your sense of decency? Censorship exists for this very reason, to keep filth like this on the back foot...long may it continue you bunch of fucking fruircakes.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 15:51 | 1488106 spanish inquisition
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I will clarify - not a bad start as in chickens coming home to roost, reaping what you sow, reverting to the mean.

He thinks he is a good Christian and killed, because others were not Christian enough, so he could effect proper change and forward his God's cause regarding Muslims. It is important because he is an independent unattached terrorist that was created with the help of the MSM.

Does what happen suck,? Yes.  Is it gonna happen again? Yes. Could it of been expressed better? Yes. +1 on your rant.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 10:07 | 1486991 pcrs
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Is the big game of trying to dump Anders views like a hand grenade into your political opponents camp, also ongoing here?

"His views seem like those of you", "nono, they seem more like those of you"

What kind of retard debating is that? Why not try using arguments build on solid principles?

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 10:25 | 1487029 destroyer of mo...
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i dont understand why he couldnt go into a muslim ghetto and shoot those folks up??

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 10:34 | 1487054 AnAnonymous
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Because he had to deal with reality at some point in his thought process. The fantasy that Muslims exert some kind of power is only that, a fantasy. Now he wanted to make a statement and strike at people who he perceives as exerting power, his fantaisical enemies, the cultural marxists.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 10:34 | 1487052 mark mchugh
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Only crazy people endorse Microsoft products.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 10:38 | 1487060 CTG_Sweden
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Apparently, he calls for a medieval style crusade against Islam and is using Catholic crusaders as symbols for his ideas. But from a theological point of view he seems more similar to John Hagee than the pope. The Catholic church is far more "pro"-Islam than pentecostalists and other charismatic Christian groups. They are almost as tolerant to Islam as the Norwegian Social Democratic Party Arbeiderpartiet which apparently was the target for his attack(s).

 

To me, it also seems funny that he is using symbols which nowadays usually are associated with very conservative catholics. These people sometimes have a near Nazi politicial attitude and think that Pius XII did right thing when he helped Nazis escape after WWII and that the Allies should have lost out at Monte Cassino. At the same time he admires Winston Churchill and the Norwegian anti-Nazi resistance celebrity Max Manus. This strengthens the impression that this guy had a distorted perspective on reality. I suspect that most terrorists, especially domestic, European terrorists have a distorted perspective on reality (don´t mix that up with cruelty etc, you don´t have to have a distorted perspective on reality in order to be cruel). The question is whether the court in this case will find that Breivik´s perspective on reality is distorted enough to send him to a mental hospital. Remember that that there is no death penalty in Norway and that the maximum prison sentence is a mere 21 years. I suspect that the court and the psychiatrists will do everything they can in order to make him stand out as a clinically mentally deranged person. If they fail, Breivik will probably be a free man when he is 53 years old.

 

I also suspect that Norway now will reintroduce life in prison as the maximum prison sentence. In Sweden, we have always, ever since the death penalty was dropped, in theory had life in prison as the maximum sentence. However, by the time prime minister Olof Palme was assassinated in 1986, the average punishment for murder was about 7 years in prison. Nobody was doing more than 15 years. But for some peculiar reason, the average time in prison for murder rose sharply after 1986. Now it seems as if a murderer may be forced to serve 35 years or more in prison.

 

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 10:40 | 1487064 bill1102inf
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If you are NON MUSLIM, anywhere in the world, you MUST read this book!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 10:44 | 1487072 deflator
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 Multiculturalism is the product of an economic model that requires infinite growth. Birth rates in developed nations are flat to declining. Europe has chosen to use Muslims in order to grow their populations while the U.S. primarily grows demographically with Latinos and Africans.  Multiculturalists and Marxists are merely useful idiots for an economic model that requires infinite growth. A great deal of resources has been spent indoctrinating the children of developed countries for at least a generation. Corporate and government elites knew that there was a need for non-White immigration and that it would be problematic.

 Multiculturalism while necessary for economic growth, has some consequences but the elites have done a great job with it's indoctrination programs throughout all government and corporate institutions. Pointing out the shortcomings of non-White immigration results in the desired response of vilification through labels of racist and bigot.

 Our infinite economic model is not sustainable and the past 150 years of persistent economic growth is over. The past 150 years of persistent economic growth is NOT attributable to our greater understanding of economics as some Nobel prize winning economists would have us believe. The world is NOT powered by money, it is powered by energy.

 

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 10:56 | 1487092 bullchit
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Some of you cunts had better start writing eulogies for your slaughtered children. Standing in the pulpit at their funerals, you can wax on about H&K, Smith & Wesson and other pertinent shit. Too stupid to show sympathy.
RIP to the poor souls and heartfelt condolences to the bereaved.
Regards.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 11:20 | 1487168 WaterWings
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You miss the point: there is more to it if the photo is faked.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:06 | 1487309 johny2
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well said bullchit. 

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 17:18 | 1488490 Cathartes Aura
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while I understand your rant, and agree in principle, I do find it interesting you chose to label most of those you're targeting as "cunts."

surely they're pricks?

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 11:46 | 1487244 caerus
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Brief summary of the title page symbolism and language

1. Red Cross on a White Field - At the beginning of the Crusades the Pope decided English crusaders would be distinguished by wearing a white cross on red, and French crusaders a red cross on white (Italian knights were allocated a yellow cross on a white background),[3] English knights soon decided to claim "their" cross of red on white, like the French. In January 1188, in a meeting between Henry II of England and Philip II of France, the two rivals agreed to exchange flags (France later changed its new white cross on red for a white cross on a dark blue flag).[4] Some French knights carried on using the red cross however, and as English knights wore this pattern as well, the red cross on white became the typical crusader symbol regardless of nationality.[5]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_England

2. De Laude Novae Militiae - In Praise of a New Knighthood - Reference to a work by Bernard of Clairvaux - In the year 1128, Bernard participated in the Council of Troyes, which had been convoked by Pope Honorius II, and was presided over by Cardinal Matthew, Bishop of Albano. The purpose of this council was to settle certain disputes of the bishops of Paris, and regulate other matters of the Church of France. The bishops made Bernard secretary of the council, and charged him with drawing up the synodal statutes. After the council, the Bishop of Verdun was deposed. It was at this council that Bernard traced the outlines of the Rule of the Knights Templar who soon became the ideal of Christian nobility. He later praised them in his "De Laude Novae Militiae".[5]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_of_Clairvaux

3. Pauperes Commilitones Christi Templique Solomonici - The Poor Fellow Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon - he Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon (Latin: Pauperes commilitones Christi Templique Solomonici), commonly known as the Knights Templar, the Order of the Temple (French: Ordre du Temple or Templiers) or simply as Templars, were among the most famous of the Western Christian military orders.[3] The organization existed for approximately two centuries in the Middle Ages.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Templar

 

Those wishing to read an interesting and unromanticized account of the crusades might like Charles Mackay's Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds, which also contains accounts of the Mississippi Bubble and the Tulip Bubble...

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 18:10 | 1488713 MurderNeverWasLove
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Hear, Hear on Charles Mackay...

I wonder about the 2083.  Guess I should search the doc.  But that is a strange number to pick, being it is a relatively large prime.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:22 | 1487363 jesusonline
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Two sides of the same coin whichever way you flip it.

1) If it's not a false flag and he really did the bombing and the shooting by himself and wrote that manifesto - it speaks volumes about the phrase attributed to him: "One person with a belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests". Then again, he would have made himself more followers which undoubtedly he wanted to and still wants to if his victims were not children, but a bunch of banksters and bilderbergs.

2) It was a false flag from the top to the bottom.

And the name of that coin is NWO. More fear and control by the governments. More gun control also. His actions in no way benefit a concept of individual freedom and rights. They can quote this all the time now - look what you can do with your freedom and your rights. Also this means a more fragmented Europe. And the crusade against Islam has been on for some time already - another score for NWO: "defend the muslim immigrants against psycho nazists like that" while continuing the not so subtle propaganda "all muslims are terrorists". Islam is clearly one of the major threats to NWO, they will continue to demonize it. But so are freedom and the rights to bear arms and to grow your own food. Double strike for NWO.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 14:51 | 1487887 dark pools of soros
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you are missing the fork in the road that this really is.  It is more a spotlight on the shield of multi-culturalism that Islam has picked from the Jews. Now the Jews have to do soul searching in thier own camps since their right-wing side knows that this tool has served its purpose since the holocast and should be discarded now that they are established and do not need it, yet the left-wing camp of Jews who bought into the concept for its diversivication benefits do not see the strategic advantages of multi-culturalism and how Islam is using it now. So that side doesn't see it as a threat.  Thus the violent act of the Freemason in Norway.

 

This isn't going away - if Arizona is allowed to clamp down more and more on their agenda, that will show the hand of Israel on this question.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 19:02 | 1488988 jesusonline
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With all due respect. Sarkozy, Merkel and some other key european players that are surely in on the game already said that " the policy of multiculturalism has failed" (supposedly that fits into "right-wing side knows that this tool has served its purpose since the holocast and should be discarded now..." - with Sarkozy especially). But. What kind of left-wing stuff are you talking about?  

"...we are not in a position where we can pick and choose our partners. That's why we have to ensure that we influence other culturally conservatives to take our anti-racist pro-homosexual, pro-Israeli line of thought. When this direction has been taken we can take it to the next level.
The consolidation MUST continue, and people must contribute by influencing (in stead of isolating)".

This is a quote attributed to him by http://blog.balder.org/?p=1241 from here: http://www.document.no/anders-behring-breivik/

Take a look at "This picture was taken on the island of Utøya the previous day"  
And then combine it with this:
http://www.ruthfullyyours.com/2011/07/11/jews-driven-from-malmo-sweden-by-muslim-violence/

So you say left wing jews "do not see ... how Islam is using it now"? You think Soros etc are not on into this yet, huh? They clearly understand it, this seeming divide within them is just smoke and mirrors for the rest of the world, nothing more.
I, for one, apart from having a serious hole in my stomach for both freemasons and zionists, also have a developing one for muslims and with my gut feeling I realize that this is "divide and conquer" in progress, but i can't help this hate. It's a lose-lose situation for the common folk because,
a) You can't have multiculturalism anymore in the current world, with even moderate muslims not wanting to integrate. And then you see that they feel the West doesn't feel that tolerant about them anymore - it only adds fuel to radicalization and it starts to catch on with those same moderate muslims (let alone muslim youth who are always more prone to radical side of it).
b) You see that it's only natural that in the current environment - both because of the economic crisis and population tendencies - nationalists and anti-muslim sentiment is growing by the day. Continue to stir it - and things will just blow up.

But at the same time - this is a win-win situation for NWO. Chaos, fear, hate, divide and conquer, economic collapse of the old economies. It's a check, check anc check all the way around. Freemasons and zionists work together here and dudes like Breivik could be nothing more than an MK-ultra working cases. All of this might sound like some fricking conspiracy, but that's just what the world has evolved to - a huge conspiracy game.

And I'm having a hard time generally understanding people trying to differentiate between right and left wing of Jews, between freemasons and zionists and whatnot. It's like saying democrats and republicans are different parties. Of course, lol. Their goal is essentially the same. And that's the only thing that matters for us, ordinary folk of the world.  

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