Massive Downward Revision Of China Leading Economic Index Refutes China "Recovery" Myth

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Tue, 06/29/2010 - 01:22 | 440696 Testicular Cancer
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I sometimes wish this was China. We could put those CB bastards before the phaser sqad, waterboard them Chinese style, castrate them, or some other suitable "People's" punishment.

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 01:27 | 440702 vainamoinen
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Checked out the BDI lately -

Uh Oh - - -

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 05:55 | 440857 papaswamp
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yea man crossed under 2010 lows trying to take on the oct 2009 low point...

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 01:28 | 440705 arnoldsimage
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is there any truth left in the world?

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 02:36 | 440759 VK
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There is, just not from main stream sources. The truth lies on the fringe.

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 05:54 | 440855 Cognitive Dissonance
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The second derivative of truth has reached it's peak and is rapidly falling.

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 07:16 | 440903 TuesdayBen
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is there any truth left in the world?

Isn't that the truth.

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 08:08 | 440959 Fazzie
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 Your trustworthiness is wearing thin. Its Tuesday and you owe 34,652 bucks on your hamburger tab!

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 08:34 | 441013 Cognitive Dissonance
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Put it on Helicopter Ben's tab. He's good for it.

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 01:33 | 440712 TheWord
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The Chinese economy relies on a flood of liquidity to keep growth at +8%.

Hot money inflows are slowing, government is tightening monetary policy and most local authorities are broke.

There's a reason the Shanghai stock indicies are down 70% from their peaks.

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 07:16 | 440904 chindit13
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Under the heavy handed guidance of the CP authorities, Chinese banks lent out the equivalent of 40% of the nation's GDP since January 2009.  It took that much just to get the traditional 8.88% growth, complemented by the fact that no regional head has ever failed to "produce" less than his dictated growth target.  So they spent about $2 trillion to get $400 billion of growth.  Even Leo's solar power is more efficient.

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 01:34 | 440713 Al Huxley
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US futures don't seem to care much for this news.  If they can't rally before morning tomorrow might be the day volume returns to the market.

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 02:09 | 440747 Temporalist
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Asian markets are getting hammered now.

I guess the G20 didn't ease anyone's mind.

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 05:25 | 440841 Sudden Debt
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It's like every bull got their throats cut and are boiled into a buffel soup.


Tue, 06/29/2010 - 01:38 | 440718 Hedge Jobs
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how convenient, im sure they have been very busy getting all their buddies out of asian stocks for the past 2 weeks

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 08:15 | 440977 Fazzie
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 What? You mean the ol MSM investment rationale of "Hey the USA stocks are down but China is just getting started" was somehow flawed??

 Will they switch to "OK, so the US, China, and India markets might be down,  but South America is booming!"

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 01:57 | 440739 jdrose1985
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How the fuck could anyone possibly trade this environment?????????????????????????????? You guys who are deserve my admiration now and pity down the road.

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 02:47 | 440767 Hedge Jobs
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Im still trading JD, as long as i have clients in stocks ive got sell orders to write!


did anyone notice the CB's moto? "trusted insights for business worldwide"



Tue, 06/29/2010 - 08:23 | 440989 Fazzie
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 Business cant afford much more of those trusted insights.


   Are these clowns cut from the same cloth as the people who claim restricting bonuses would cause "talent" to flee the country?


  Next thing you know they are like "Oops!" "Calculation error!" Turns out Chinas leading the double dip!" 


   WTF? The talent forgot to carry the 2 or something?

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 06:15 | 440860 Cognitive Dissonance
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Ditto. I have trading clients who are in the market without my advice that will want to move.

On the other hand, longer term trend trading rather than day trading has been successful for me for the past 8 years. The key is to be flexible and not make moves on a days or even weeks worth of market movements.

Ignore the highs and lows of the trend and slice yourself a piece of the soft underbelly of the middle of these big moves. Most of the crazy market moves are at the extremes.

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 08:08 | 440962 sumo
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I go long/short volatility but have been net long for months. Doing ok, but  you have to stay nimble at all times.

Just read Bill Cara's blog this morning. He thinks the FOMC will intervene via the usual suspects (GS, JPM, etc) if the market falls over.

As many here have said, there's nothing but an air pocket under S&P 1050. Stay nimble, stay nimble. No telling what the FOMC will do when cornered like a desperate rat.


Tue, 06/29/2010 - 02:06 | 440746 sushi
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Now that they have "unpegged" the yuan what is the bet that it will fall relative to the dollar, the euro, and every other currency?

Of course everyone will complain. But the Chinese will proudly point out "It floats!"

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 05:12 | 440836 TBT or not TBT
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Which would prove they are witches!   How do I trade this?   I mean other than shorting our stock market and suchlike?

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 08:29 | 441004 Minyan Vince
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you nailed it sushi; and i think that's the point...something tells me that China unpegged because they fear the Dollar strengthening (which it will for a while) and taking the renminbi with best to let it "float" down to save exporting power

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 02:35 | 440758 abalone
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Bye Bye AUD & commodities...hello USD

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 02:37 | 440762 dan22
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China Shark Loan Ponzi Scheme- Interest Rates Soar to 50%

An article that was published in a major Chinese news source stated that in the past few months, more and more China real estate developers are seeking emergency loans in order to support the local shark loan operators, since more and more real estate developers are experiencing cash flow problems due to low transaction volume in the real estate market.

This is how this ponzi scheme works:
Local governmental officials, that are demanded from the government to produce double digit GDP growth numbers give real estate developers permits to build housing projects in return for bribes. They also get bribes in return for allowing the shark loan companies to operate under their jurastiction. some of them are active partners in shark loan businesses. For example, a party secretary of legal affairs, that controls the public security bureau, which is a court and prosecutor division of government in yongkang city, in zhe jiang province tired to run abroad using a passport in 2009 after he found out he can’t repay 60million Yuan. In li Every scheme has a ring leader who's job is to collect money from all the participants in the ponzi scheme. When some of these ponzi schemes blow up, the party leaders always get bailed out first, and some even ask local business owners to lend them money, and then bail out their own personal fund. After that the ring leader turns himself in and gets protection from the local government.

Most of the funds that are collected in this classic ponzi finance go to local land purchases and real estate development. Part of the funds are used in order to pay back the rolling loan. The short term interest rate in this black market is very high and ranges between 20%-150% annual rate. The sources of the ponzi funds are diverse, as ordinary citizens, banks with corrupted bank officials, and state enterprises play the game.

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 03:16 | 440778 Advoc8tr
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Supposed to be reply to 440739 ..... not sure how I stuffed it up?


It's easy..... just short everthing - sell on the 'misplaced optimism' bounces and ride to the bottom.  When gov steps in with a couple of trillion close and go long until it wears off then go short again.  Occasionally cash out profits and buy physical gold / silver.  Repeat

Never traded in my life until I came accross Zerohedge... via Max and Stacey @ Keiser report. Got up to speed, opened a CFD trading account, 'invest' 10% of capital for speculation put rest in PM's and accumulate more PM's with profits. If you lose it all [speculation money] I get the feeling you won't notice it in the end when the 90% as PM's blossom.

Seems to be working well so far .....


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Tue, 06/29/2010 - 08:25 | 440994 sumo
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On days like this, Zero Hedge is THE place to be.

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 03:12 | 440779 MrTrader
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The only calculation mistake is the brain of these Conference Board intelligence acrobats...

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 03:25 | 440789 carbonmutant
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Well if they unload some of those T-bills they be OK.

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 03:26 | 440790 Alex Lionson
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Dear Tyler, btw can you comment on the recent drop of the Baltic Dry Index in the light of global economic "recovery"? 

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 08:50 | 441045 sumo
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My take: there is an inventory-driven bounce in the economy after each recession, and the BDI says the bounce is fading.


Tue, 06/29/2010 - 04:12 | 440812 Quantum Noise
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Hugh Hendry must be in some weird investor heaven where they all drive electric cars and drink scotch, not necessarily in that order.

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 04:28 | 440819 leftcoastfool
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Where's Leo when you need him?  I'm sure he could explain why these numbers are supportive of our "recovery" gaining even more traction...

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 06:17 | 440872 ColonelCooper
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"Make no mistake, the recovery is gaining traction." - Leo Kolivakis

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 07:42 | 440919 LongGold
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DOW futures now below 10k (again). Yup,sure seems like it gaining traction alright...To the downside :-)

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 07:47 | 440928 monmick
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Sometimes, you need to take a step back to better jump forward?

Yeah, that's it...

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 04:40 | 440826 Oh regional Indian
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What  a strange and un-expected source for "the shot heard around the world".

Sounds simple enough, some mistaken assumptions, just a tweak, all is well.

But for money, the clear signal is that the emperor has NO clothes.

China is Naked, the US is Naked, Russia is Naked. Britain is beyond naked. The EU just shed her clothes in a jiffy recently. India was naked long ago.

No fun being naked just as the biggest chill is about to set in.





Tue, 06/29/2010 - 05:36 | 440850 Djirk
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"in an effort to stem speculation and avert an asset bubble in the aftermath of a record credit expansion last year"


Wow big suprise, record credit expansion created and asset bubble....weren't they watching the US/EU train wreck?


OK guys, when the bubble starts to pop and the banks are all illiquid, create a lot of cash with a computer entry and inject it into the sure not to force any write downs of asset vaules, because that would hamper trading profits.

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 06:46 | 440870 papaswamp
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whoa the euro just dove under 1.22. Wonder if that supposed Chinese cash support for greece will really materialize.....or this is a fake revision to get the yuan to depreciate.

In other news...the IBEX is getting pounded....the runs on banks might start today...I surprised they haven't actually.


Tue, 06/29/2010 - 06:46 | 440883 Mentaliusanything
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Damn I got to pull my Dow 10000 cap off - Again! This shit is wearing out the brim.

I demand Stability, honesty and accurate reporting of all things Financial !

Otherwise just lie to me with a bedtime story. Like Leo does - you know "we are past recovery and into Expansion mode"

And the siren sounds like this Whoop Whoop Whoop at Broad street. Have a fun Tuesday.This cat's got no Bounce left in it

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 07:30 | 440915 yabs
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the chinese stock  market entered the death cross weeks ago

expect a crash soon

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 07:38 | 440922 vicelord
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China slowing down is a big surprise... to who?

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 07:44 | 440925 chistletoe
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I am of course just a country bumpkin, livin in a town with nuthin but

hills, ho's and liquor stores.

When China first announced that they were depegging,

I pointed out their loss of exports to Europe

and posited the unlikely scenario that their real intention is to devalue their currency, along with everybody else.

I was politely made fun of.

I pose it again.

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 08:57 | 441065 sumo
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Don't know who ridiculed your guess and why, but your view has much support, given the big falls in the EUR; the size of China's exports to Europe; and China's stated intention of pegging to a basket of currencies.

China played Obama and Merkel like pianos at Copenhagen - "ratfucked" was the technical term used by the Australians. So it wouldn't surprise me that China is doing even more ratfucking via its currency.

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 07:57 | 440935 Zina
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Talking about BRIC's, I have "not so good" news from here (Brazil):,0.php

"Economy shows signs of slowing in 2nd quarter"

In the first month of the 2nd quarter, April, a series of leading indicators show a sharp slowing in the pace of economic growth.

With the end of the massive tax stimulus we had here for almost a year, I was expecting for this...

Perhaps the sales of t-shirts of the Brazilian football team in June may partially reverse this picture...

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 07:58 | 440941 HEHEHE
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Give them a break they had to translate the numbers from Chinese!

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 08:00 | 440946 yabs
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I loved the way everyone thought China was going to save us

It was built out of the biggest bubble ie western consumers mortagaging their

bubble inflatewd houses to buy tvs and plastic crap from China

now that bubbles burst but everyone expects china to carry on?

who will they export to , the martians?

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 08:53 | 440980 Anarchist
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China may have some daunting problems but one of them is not an indebted consumer and huge foreign held debt. Sure there are speculators who bought way too much stock and real estate, but they are not the majority of the population like in the US. The Chinese government also has huge amounts of foreign reserves they need to burn off. If you were ever in China it would remind you of Japan. The cost of goods for the average consumer is off the hook. Most consumer goods sell for at least 2X what they are worth. You can buy electronics off ebay directly from China and shipped to the US for a fraction of what the same product would cost in Beijing. The Japanese I used to work with would buy their electronics in NYC and bring them home. If the government would allow consumer prices to drop the internal demand in the country would rise. The other issue is the lack of pensions and the one child policy. People have to save all the money they will need in their retirement. They know there will be no one to support them in their old age. The US crows about the savings rate being 5%. In Asia the savings rate is over 40%.

I don't understand how people can miss the reason the Chinese have been filling their coffers with copper, wood, iron ore, oil ..etc. It was not to fuel some sudden increase in exports. It was to get commodities at low prices and get rid of a small amount of the excess dollar reserves. People don't realize the Chinese government buys the majority of consumables required by manufacturers. This is a weakness of western companies who must buy much lower quantities at higher prices. The Chinese like to buy when demand is weak and prices low. They know there will be future internal demand. It is the Chinese government negotiating resource procurement deals around the world. No western company can bring the same horsepower to the table. The wests scam of using the world bank and IMF to loot the resources of countries has become ineffective. The only ones lining up at the IMFs door have nothing to steal.

Tue, 06/29/2010 - 08:25 | 440995 Zina
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Now I understand why the Baltic Dry Index is at a 6-month low, and dived bellow the 2,500 mark!


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